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Recently the top management of the Russian Federation has allocated 1.5 trillion rubles, in the United States has allocated 700
billion dollars, in other countries, you can not assume all small things, all sorts of 5-10-20-50
billions of dollars, euros, etc.. Sitting presidents and think how to save exchange. Any money
give to calm panicking investors and speculators to catch Bouncing on
own accord into the abyss and stockbrokers.
Stock traders are experiencing extraordinary stress, and most of them can not cope with them,
the vast majority of beginners lose in exchange for psychological reasons.
The lack of tranquility among traders and investors is already threatening the financial and then
economic and social disaster for the entire world. The world economy may produce hundreds
millions unemployed and homeless. Some States may sink into chaos. And all
why? Due to the fact that the leading stockbrokers in a panic sold stocks, bonds, currencies and
etc..
Question to Andrey Patrushev: it is possible to create a disc for traders? Or which drive closer?
A sample set of psychological qualities which are necessary for the trader:
1) discipline, commitment to the plan in any conditions
2) exposure, negodnost while in current income (to keep the deal open until
achieve pre-set targets)
3) Anadezhda, unbelief in salvation while in the current loss (to prevent even
large losses)
4) the responsiveness during abrupt changes,
5) calm and waiting in anticipation of big moves
6) the lack of a sense of paralysis, "stupor",
7) the lack of a sense inconsiderate determination,
the constancy of psychological day-to-day
9) application of intuition no harm
10) acategorical, assessment of probabilities
11) lack of a sense of love and ownership to their current deals.
As you can see, all the activity is in limbo, with strict self-discipline, with
patience, but with quick response and without labile changes in psychological state.<

Support - great idea!

money is a game with immature society
the context you listed psychological qualities are located in the corridor of this immaturity.. sorry..
for example??
for example - all of this can be replaced with a single phrase-
unconventional behavior leading to financial success.
and everything else (speed of reaction, endurance and etc... ncategories etc) all this husk..

"for example - all this can be replaced with a single phrase-
unconventional behavior leading to financial success.
and everything else (speed of reaction, endurance and etc... ncategories etc) all this husk.."
Well, let it be so - standard behavior.
And what is it? Can be walking down the street passer pour on the head water from the bottle and if he Zlataritsa, then sell the N-th action, but if you hit to buy it. A perfect example of originality.
I have listed the psychological quality, to make it clearer Patrushev. For example, in paragraph 2 means a favorable external (profit) INTERNALLY, the trader must be patient in reinforced concrete part of their plan!!! Item 3 - so when a dysfunctional foreign (losses) INTERNALLY, the trader does not Harbor hopes, dreams illusions that it will be the best, and in the framework of ITS RULES closes a losing trade. Does NOT violate its own rules in any case! NEITHER in good nor in bad. While your plan (strategy) is revising at a certain time in the future after the analysis. And here, of course, non-standard behavior - when a good want to get it into the property (close the transaction), and should be outside the box to keep the transaction open. When bad want to believe the best, that loss will become less, and have outside the box - to close the deal, getting the loss.
All these psychological traps of trading on the exchange is described in the books, thanks to them, the brokerage companies always make a profit because most of traders get into them, applying the General psychological cliches of ordinary life in stock trading. It was a hundred years ago, and now.

As for the "husk".
These psihoticescuu and reactions understandable to the practicing traders, they can still add to this list. And I know almost all these points.
Paint example:
On the market there is no movement. The trader waits an hour, waiting for the two, waiting for three, there are small movements, he is waiting for patcharov, waiting for day, waiting for even half a day finally decided to open a trade based on its analysis. ( item 5 breaks), two minutes later, the market tends to move in the opposite direction (point 4), because somewhere over the ocean, some bastard Budun blurted out something. With the rapid price movement the trader a stupor (item 6), because he identified himself with his business (item 11), then receiving a loss, he begins to believe the best (item 3). At the end of the day he closes the deal with a loss.
The next day he utterly decisive (item 7), a lot of transactions, there is little analysis of the calm. Day with a small loss.
On the third day, he relies only on intuition (item 9), because after two days of losses does not believe in his analysis. Gets a small profit and close it (paragraph 2).
The next day the price goes in that direction, but he closed my deal yesterday. He's in a bad mood (para. he decides to change trading style (item 10). So these days, at crucial moments, have no discipline and peace (para.1).
That's the whole exchange of "kitchen" and you say "husk". Bad in detail. Sees the root!

I understand that everyone wants to get the pills specific and "from the head and from the train..." (sorry, joke ), but I created the file Explorer as the universal "solver of problems", based on systems thinking. Believe me, there is everything that You have written. You can also strengthen the individual points of Your plan around specific goals.

рус wrote:I have listed the psychological quality, to make it clearer Patrushev. For example, in paragraph 2 means a favorable external (profit) INTERNALLY, the trader must be patient in reinforced concrete part of their plan!!! Item 3 - so when a dysfunctional foreign (losses) INTERNALLY, the trader does not Harbor hopes, dreams illusions that it will be the best, and in the framework of ITS RULES closes a losing trade. Does NOT violate its own rules in any case! NEITHER in good nor in bad. While your plan (strategy) is revising at a certain time in the future after the analysis

1.for this You don't need Patrushev
2. if you still want the disc In Explorer and the way it is
3.

рус wrote:That's the whole exchange of "kitchen" and you say "husk". Bad in detail. Sees the root!

Root - one .. lack of professionalism.. that is, you describe the work of a complete incompetent.. and why such a market issue? and the more and more this CD Patrushev order for such insecure people
It's just not his (the behavior which you described) calling the drives here will not help (unless you change its internal matrix thinking.. although the physiology also gives a lot of himself to know ( resistance to stress, speed of thinking, etc) what is the drives themselves, and will not help to completely change the physiology.. so all the husks ( what you write), because it is (all that you listed through .. although it is NOT wrong to desire through.. read the topic about the correct goal setting) external manifestation of the internally MATURE person to work with the market.. (realizing that it in itself will change and external - what you listed as the desired behavior)

Then some comrades have to sell this program for a lot of money (750 dollars). Also offered individual programs for a few thousand green.

Interested in Your opinion about these programs. It seems to me that too ispolzuut binaural beats.

Links (not ads):

http://www.astra-systems.net/metro.php

http://www.astra-systems.net/birzha.php

http://www.astra-systems.net/insAS-1.pdf

Thanks to Andrei Patrushev for the answer. The words of the master clearly explain what disc need.
Of course, I dramatize the problems of a trader, depicting them all at once in one case. However, this is beginners traders. There are several techniques and tricks (stop losses, pending orders, market surveillance in certain hours, etc.) to arrest the weak psychological qualities. Ie is composed of the exchange strategy a particular trader with weaknesses.
"It's just not his (the behavior of which you describe) the calling of the drives here will not help (unless you change its internal matrix thinking.. although the physiology also gives a lot of himself to know ( resistance to stress, speed of thinking, etc) what is the drives themselves, and will not help to completely change the physiology.." --- 90% beginners lose their money, they have different physiology, not behavior, and normal everyday behavior. Treated only experience and labor persistence. Man is a creature that always adapts, including to trade on the exchange. In the war the first time, too, not the physiology.
"for this (all that you listed through .. although it is NOT wrong to desire through.. read the topic about the correct goal setting)" - I deliberately used NOT to enhance understanding. So it is accepted in the Russian language can be and that Russia has such story. "Russians Never give up", why not say "the Russians always win!", or here's conversational turn "NO" its meaning is that"Yes", and foreigners are surprised "yes no", what is that?!
Raja posted an interesting link. eats there: "Software as a multiplier of charisma. Designed for policymakers and individuals interested in the eyes of the environment to look in a positive light." I wonder Zhirinovsky this metronome imbued
The development of 80-90% of intuition for several months are tempting, it naturally requires no less than 5 years, or even 10. And still superinduce if there is no psychopathology, success is problematic. Simply, the trader will NOT believe the flickering in his mind the intuition, reason.<

Раджа wrote:Here some comrades have to sell this program for a lot of money (750 dollars). Also offered individual programs for a few thousand green.

Interested in Your opinion about these programs. It seems to me that too ispolzuut binaural beats.

Links (not ads):

http://www.astra-systems.net/metro.php

http://www.astra-systems.net/birzha.php

http://www.astra-systems.net/insAS-1.pdf

it's the same thing that supposedly offer a unique super-duper trading system. the same eggs,a current side view...
And characteristically, after all, there are those who will buy it!:))

Rusyou also a trader? Interesting though

FR - it's Egregore. Me he once almost sucked to death, even though I doubled the Deposit per week
You want to deceive him or to win? You are a scalper-intralasik or more interval?

рус wrote:the Development of 80-90% of intuition for several months are tempting, it naturally requires no less than 5 years, or even 10. And still superinduce if there is no psychopathology, success is problematic. Simply, the trader will NOT believe the flickering in his mind the intuition, reason.

What nafig intuition, if you are under the control of the flier-egregor(the worst I current had to meet), whose signals are considerably stronger than any of your intuition? You are inside, not outside and lose Vision.

You can certainly learn to work with astral projection brain and selected areas Yes/no, but this is looooove way, and without substance... not talk about it

рус wrote:In the war the first time, too, not the physiology. Shocked

The essence is in the details
it seems that for you the exchange is like war

1. In war, people decide matters of life and death.. and no one hides that 80% there are called forced IMHO ( or any cheating ways) or just have to go and defend their loved ones. So Your example is a perfect inadequate. because it turns out that 98% came to the market - driven horses ( in financial terms) as in war. To take for war?? or forced to go and protect something important to you?
2. I gave you a hint - money is a game with an immature community. until you understand that fact you will continue to "fight"
something ZHSL rights, speaking about the Egregore. if you manage to join him, not for long. those who know how to coexist with him too jealous of such knowledge.. but usually it soon comes to their circles. for any pulse of life - constant change. and "sucker" rubusana in the market, usually of 3-7 years to lose their performance.. the smartest in retirement ( teaching, advising) and the most impatient - poured all that accumulated.
and the hosts are always with their

Евгений Кош wrote:Essence is in the details
it seems that for you the exchange is like war

in-in.
There are 2 words -- "war" and "crisis". Other inhabitants are not awake (not touch and do not stimulate the obviously crazy things -- many who are desirable). What irritates the Customer(s).
ie, I don't know exactly what you need for stock traders -- weak in my mind they deserve (require? need?) not more support than hard-nosed players in slot machines.

Guys, what is "the Egregor"?

Раджа wrote:Here some comrades have to sell this program for a lot of money (750 dollars). Very Happy also Offered individual programs for a few thousand green.

Interested in Your opinion about these programs. It seems to me that too ispolzuut binaural beats.

Links (not ads):

http://www.astra-systems.net/metro.php

http://www.astra-systems.net/birzha.php

http://www.astra-systems.net/insAS-1.pdf

interesting technique.....
and even so what do You think of the session of MM, it was possible to try to apply this technique?

Hi all, first time writing on this forum, read two weeks.

рус wrote:............
to calm panicking investors and speculators to catch Bouncing on
own accord into the abyss and stockbrokers.
Stock traders are experiencing extraordinary stress, and most of them can not cope with them,
the vast majority of beginners lose in exchange for psychological reasons.
The lack of tranquility among traders and investors is already threatening the financial and then
economic and social disaster for the entire world. The world economy may produce hundreds
millions unemployed and homeless. Some States may sink into chaos. And all
why? Due to the fact that the leading stockbrokers in a panic sold stocks, bonds, currencies and
etc..
Question to Andrey Patrushev: it is possible to create a disc for traders? Or which drive closer?
A sample set of psychological qualities which are necessary for the trader:
1) discipline, commitment to the plan in any conditions
2) exposure, negodnost while in current income (to keep the deal open until
achieve pre-set targets)
3) Anadezhda, unbelief in salvation while in the current loss (to prevent even
large losses)
4) the responsiveness during abrupt changes,
5) calm and waiting in anticipation of big moves
6) the lack of a sense of paralysis, "stupor",
7) the lack of a sense inconsiderate determination,
the constancy of psychological day-to-day
9) application of intuition no harm
10) acategorical, assessment of probabilities
11) lack of a sense of love and ownership to their current deals.
As you can see, all the activity is in limbo, with strict self-discipline, with
patience, but with quick response and without labile changes in psychological state.

A great initiative to support.
He engaged in trading. Came to this forum through a search engine when on the prof forum one of the forum posted disc "Massage of the brain," wanted to know what it is...

On your question Andrei Patrushev about the disks or create a new disk, let me Express imhu

In order to ask Andrei Patrushev make the drive for traders first need/to understand, to understand what you want?

When the programmer ask to program provides technical job on the basis of which, he actually wrote the program.
Andrei Patrushev is currently created several disks, let's say: "observatiile purpose" - for all.
There is the possibility of self-setting (goal setting) for best effect. In the branches it's all there.

There is a program on the rainbow arc, the same interesting thing. This program can be used as a constructor to load in the subconscious of the installation. Typical affirmations and affirmatsii posted. But required a special (and whether it is necessary???) that would be helpful to traders may not there.

My suggestion, to prepare the aims and objectives suitable for trading, to discuss them in this thread, and then ask Andrew Patrushev as a specialist and expert in this matter, to edit them.

And if after this will crush, and of course mutual interest, you can continue to promote this idea...
In this vein, I propose to continue the discussion...

Himself while discs use Windows Explorer, and MM program rainbow arc with standard afformative, and I think-maturing, what's next...

Andrei Patrushev valued respect, discs - "lethal force" did not believe and did not expect.
After the 2nd listen abuterol, lost his right leg and hip ache sust, could not get up. Right now all recovered. The mood is much better, there was an inner comfort and confidence.


NP.<

in connection with the maturing (or in the middle of) the financial crisis...
1. begin to pour in banks... people got mad ran to withdraw money from banks which identity brutalized and it just happened soooo
2. ATMs give 3000 RUB into the hands and what part is finally unmade... yesterday she was faced with this problem
3. credit card in shops and restaurants wait try not to make (a man told work I couldn't pay the restaurant and Nala was not)
well, still a lot of moments... what am...
money egregor (as well as Christian, Buddhist, etc.) fueled a certain amount of energy those same traders financiers and oligarchs... all people... patamu that without money escho anyone to live failed...
Every 10 YEARS he gets tired and he needs rest.... financial crisis happens every 10 years... (not counting our country that 2 times in the 91 and 98 injured)
this is a temporary phenomenon and worse before it gets better it's historical law
if ALBUS fell for EXAMPLE the sale of CDs and MM then this identity is a temporary phenomenon patamu RECESSION SHOULD Wake UP...the LAW...
you just have to wait

Платон Грант wrote:...Hey!!what is the rainbow arc - come on.share!!...please!! ...I'm fond of it...and also your opinion about these DISCS! - how are they!??something gives!?? good luck!!

duck still on this forum: http://www.mindmachine.ru/viewtopic.php?t=933advise, read vnimatelno the whole forum, lots to learn.

Mutually, good luck.

NP.

Алексей-тр wrote:hi all, first time writing on this forum, read two weeks.

рус wrote:............
to calm panicking investors and speculators to catch Bouncing on
own accord into the abyss and stockbrokers.
Stock traders are experiencing extraordinary stress, and most of them can not cope with them,
the vast majority of beginners lose in exchange for psychological reasons.
The lack of tranquility among traders and investors is already threatening the financial and then
economic and social disaster for the entire world. The world economy may produce hundreds
millions unemployed and homeless. Some States may sink into chaos. And all
why? Due to the fact that the leading stockbrokers in a panic sold stocks, bonds, currencies and
etc..
Question to Andrey Patrushev: it is possible to create a disc for traders? Or which drive closer?
A sample set of psychological qualities which are necessary for the trader:
1) discipline, commitment to the plan in any conditions
2) exposure, negodnost while in current income (to keep the deal open until
achieve pre-set targets)
3) Anadezhda, unbelief in salvation while in the current loss (to prevent even
large losses)
4) the responsiveness during abrupt changes,
5) calm and waiting in anticipation of big moves
6) the lack of a sense of paralysis, "stupor",
7) the lack of a sense inconsiderate determination,
the constancy of psychological day-to-day
9) application of intuition no harm
10) acategorical, assessment of probabilities
11) lack of a sense of love and ownership to their current deals.
As you can see, all the activity is in limbo, with strict self-discipline, with
patience, but with quick response and without labile changes in psychological state.

A great initiative to support.
He engaged in trading. Came to this forum through a search engine when on the prof forum one of the forum posted disc "Massage of the brain," wanted to know what it is...

On your question Andrei Patrushev about the disks or create a new disk, let me Express imhu

In order to ask Andrei Patrushev make the drive for traders first need/to understand, to understand what you want?

When the programmer ask to program provides technical job on the basis of which, he actually wrote the program.
Andrei Patrushev is currently created several disks, let's say: "observatiile purpose" - for all.
There is the possibility of self-setting (goal setting) for best effect. In the branches it's all there.

There is a program on the rainbow arc, the same interesting thing. This program can be used as a constructor to load in the subconscious of the installation. Typical affirmations and affirmatsii posted. But required a special (and whether it is necessary???) that would be helpful to traders may not there.

My suggestion, to prepare the aims and objectives suitable for trading, to discuss them in this thread, and then ask Andrew Patrushev as a specialist and expert in this matter, to edit them.

And if after this will crush, and of course mutual interest, you can continue to promote this idea...
In this vein, I propose to continue the discussion...

Himself while discs use Windows Explorer, and MM program rainbow arc with standard afformative, and I think-maturing, what's next...

Andrei Patrushev valued respect, discs - "lethal force" did not believe and did not expect.
After the 2nd listen abuterol, lost his right leg and hip ache sust, could not get up. Right now all recovered. The mood is much better, there was an inner comfort and confidence.


NP.

Well, sooo respect this approach to business.<

Guys, let's not run into each other, from this nothing constructive will come out, wasting time and energy, it is necessary to you?

Propose a plan of discussion:
1. to lay out requirements for psihoticeski qualities tradera (start made in the 1st and 2nd post of a topic).
2. what techniques can be improved, to train, to rectify the psychology of a trader.
3. how to evaluate these improvements, according to what criteria.

The plan will be additions, corrections?

NP.

Алексей-тр wrote:Guys, let's not run into each other, from this nothing constructive will come out, wasting time and energy, it is necessary to you?

Too much offtopic, because I'll be brief:

will the trader Mindmachine? Yes.
Is it worth the money they ask for it here? Definitely worth it.

Mechanism - cleaning the attic of manure, in fact alpha rhythms - transdental meditation, cleansing you, giving you more energy, making you more self-sufficient and successful man in trading, including. A must-have.

Even Pushkarev already read OSHO

рус wrote:1) discipline, commitment to the plan in any conditions
2) exposure, negodnost while in current income (to keep the deal open until
achieve pre-set targets)
3) Anadezhda, unbelief in salvation while in the current loss (to prevent even
large losses)
4) the responsiveness during abrupt changes,
5) calm and waiting in anticipation of big moves
6) the lack of a sense of paralysis, "stupor",
7) the lack of a sense inconsiderate determination,
Cool psychological constancy from day to day
9) application of intuition no harm
10) acategorical, assessment of probabilities
11) lack of a sense of love and ownership to their current deals.

once there is no analysis, and honing the "fad"
let me remind you - most of them very imperfect, and the opposite of what you want .
in particular
p. 1 - always priderzhivatsya plan???? and you can create a plan for all occasions ? but if there's something that you have not provided
p. 3 "Anadida" and then what? :- anger? regaddvalue? hysteria? and TP?

p. 4 and who will determine that this is a time of rapid change? who quick and to whom and as it was known in its time
claim 6. the lack of a sense of fading "stupor" .. and the presence of feelings? sleepiness? thirst? dementia? ))
7. see p. 6
9. "use of intuition is not to the detriment" - is like? and who will determine the damages for the past?? and who said that intuition is flawed? but if there is an option that it is flawed, then why apply it???

P10-11 .. ncategories? ) lack of feelings of love? and that is when "love" is missing?

Евгений Кош wrote: once there is no analysis, and honing the "fad"
let me remind you - most of them very imperfect, and the opposite of what you want .
in particular

Mr. Kosh, I'm way all clear what was meant. I'm just a Trader
And you thought I bast soup slurp and spiritual growth I have just? It all started with FR Russia... He was my first teacher.

RusI told you about the Egregore. The worst I've ever seen.

Only elaboration of the logic of the tactics of interaction with it and reducing it to the minimum possible to work out points of your... Logic - a set of rigid rules formilitary. With minimal gesture... almost like an MTS, but under direct supervision. Then hone your skills by practicing the stalking - tracking of his inner feelings. The main thing is not to give this monster themselves suck. Attached it for the emotion.
Getting used to a special state of consciousness, turn off the inner dialogue of a split attention. This practice in quake3, get the game on instinct, when I do not think, do not aim, and everything.