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Post by Лисичка75 » Tue Aug 12, 2008 20:01

Help, please. Please advise. I want to get rid of emotional depending on the ex-husband. Constantly living in the past and the present. It seems that nothing good will not.He constantly stands in front of my eyes. I think that never meeting anyone else and will not marry or have kids. HOW to change this situation. in what sees to submit a goal? Does it make sense to work with the "Conductor"? In General, how to be happy and begin to live finally? As prailno to ask to your subconscious to make it all happen? To meet your soul mate, to bear and raise children, to have good-vysokooplachivaemoi work in order to live in abundance, to be healthy etc. And a lot of energy constantly flows in the past. I'm constantly in it. I can't pull myself out of it. How to release energy from the past to fully live in the present. Yes, people walk past me like I'm not. Men don't pay attention to me. I'm empty. As filled with vitality. How to Shine again? In advance very grateful to You for the answer. Sincerely, Nastya

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Transurfing Zeland try, you can fit.

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Post by Лисичка75 » Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:58

thanks for the advice

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Post by Dimas » Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:11

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Nastya,get the opportunity,go relax in a beautiful place-a change of scenery is the best variant of psychotherapy and pumping energy,try more to communicate with people,open world,bigger smile :) :D :D :D ,visit our forum,come visit,read helpful books (the Transurfing Zeland is a very good option),watch the movie "the Secret", drink clean water and everything will be fine!Try to write down all the CONS of Your life with Your former spouse,perhaps it is salvation and freedom for You that it all turned out.As the saying goes "All that is done-all the better"...because"..God is not a simpleton sees everything"... :) :) :) :wink: :ay :ay :ay :ay :ay :ay :ay :ay :aa

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Re: Advise how to get rid of dependence on the past and

Post by Андрей Патрушев » Wed Aug 13, 2008 16:50

Лисичка75 wrote:Help, please. Please advise. I want to get rid of emotional depending on the ex-husband. Constantly living in the past and the present. It seems that nothing good will not.He constantly stands in front of my eyes. I think that never meeting anyone else and will not marry or have kids. HOW to change this situation. in what sees to submit a goal? Does it make sense to work with the "Conductor"? In General, how to be happy and begin to live finally? As prailno to ask to your subconscious to make it all happen? To meet your soul mate, to bear and raise children, to have good-vysokooplachivaemoi work in order to live in abundance, to be healthy etc. And a lot of energy constantly flows in the past. I'm constantly in it. I can't pull myself out of it. How to release energy from the past to fully live in the present. Yes, people walk past me like I'm not. Men don't pay attention to me. I'm empty. As filled with vitality. How to Shine again? In advance very grateful to You for the answer. Sincerely, Nastya
Hello, Nastya.
On the forum there is a section "self-Hypnosis and proper goal setting" http://www.mindmachine.ru/viewtopic.php ... F%ED%EE%E7.
Here, You may be able to find questions on some of Your answers :) http://www.mindmachine.ru/articles/afformations.htm
And here are some useful techniques and life-affirming philosophy EN/dwoskin/sedona_method">http://www.koob.ru/dwoskin/sedona_method
Yet highly recommend this is http://www.koob.ru/kurlov/ (probably the best one).
Transerfing is not read - says the guy is all cool and interesting (though, in my opinion, too pessimestichno), but the specific technique he had mostly flimsy...
Quit complaining and start anything to do - every journey starts with the first step.
Good Luck Running! :o<

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thank you

Post by Лисичка75 » Wed Aug 13, 2008 23:09

thank you very much for the advice. Be sure to read these books and try to put correctly the target. As for the go and distracted - tried - did not help

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Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:48

FOX If you are hiding from everything and everyone and live by the principle,"I'm not here" And with each problem mentally running away kudato.You don't even notice. You are not there. This can be used in an emergency.But in life you have to be here and now - it's hard but you need to know yourself. Andrew rightly said Zeland don't read a lot of empty and not working.Although if you believe it will work( faith rewarded) We therefore with Eugene Kosh and prove to each other what is true and what is not.But the truth is that someone in that to believe that it is true and it turns out. The path of the Fool. Again, interpretation and processing in its own way the book norbekova "experience of the Fool or the key to enlightenment" a lot of books out like this from his former students. There is an interesting. But who that someone Norbekov who "Baby"-Ivanov who even Zeland helps and who drives Andrew .Your will the choice is yours. The main thing that you want izmeniti life. And even sleep under the Guide will help all the same.And if you start listening there is nothing immutable (yet) then at least pleasant words men hear :oops: And it stimulates further promotion and awareness of myself. And we women have a lot of nice.... and then an hour. :D :o

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Post by Сергей А » Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:39

I respect the opinion And Patrusheva, but not all agree with him.
Personally , I think that in Transurfing Zeland you will learn pofigistka to treat your problems with ex-husband. In fact they are far-fetched. They simply do not . But you don't know yet. Read tracering and understand everything yourself. You see the thing is-if you do represent the world around you is bad, then he and Buda like this. Your attention is focused on this representation. So what's stopping you to change your views.? And change the world around you? The interesting thing is that you actually do not interfere.
And stop whining!! if you're from outside to radiate joy and light surrounding you men just can not get you not to notice. That I as a man say. With respect.....

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Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Thu Aug 14, 2008 23:42

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Андрей Патрушев wrote:Quit your bitchin ' and start anything to do - every journey starts with the first step
Сергей А wrote:And stop whining!! if you're from outside to radiate joy and light surrounding you men just can not get you not to notice
Not enough to whine ,but is it worth to shed tears for the past.Left and right. Hard but who told you that all is eternal. Maybe this is your chance to something higher. :) Men you will help in just how to be you to be always with them. But if you like it . And parting it's -someone that you dislike in someone else and is not understanding .Or at least a compromise. Maybe it's unpleasant for you to read,but if you loved and if love can let him live there happily and if you love or loved then you should at least be happy for him. It is my opinion even though nobody asked. And live and not survive.

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thank you very much

Post by Лисичка75 » Fri Aug 15, 2008 0:39

thank you for wishes and advice. I gather my strength I will revives

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Post by Евгений Кош » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:54

Nastya, if there is a desire to read the next book.
Michael Litvak:
1. Psychological Aikido helps you learn how to comfortably communicate.
2. Psychological vampirism is a very exciting book.. exposes the "scripts" of behavior.
3. "sex in the family and at work" - quite interesting and accurately explains the theme ( showing the comfortable values) when building and staying in the relations of the sexes.
4. the principle of a spermatozoon ( a very good set of "rules".. which helps to stay on the path and not get lost in the wilds "invented laws" of different personalities ).


I also liked the books by Vladimir Levi (which relate to your theme):
1. Traumatology of love
2. Where to live
3. Error health
4.The art of being different.

P. S. my personal opinion on the here and now, don't stay on one conductor. because he reprogramming but not a teacher. And (this is also my lnoe IMHO) at first a person needs to give at least primary NEW values, from which it can proceed in the current situation, and then already in the process will understand . (because the new values are in harmony with human nature, although at first glance do not look very acceptable to the public and to their (new) right it does not come up.. this is quite correct to take, for the first time, something that is already being used by other successful people ). In the books of Litvak's just given, explained, discussed and shown offer the values which are closer to human harmony . More comfortable and more effective for you ( my opinion ) are the books and the guide as a whole :)

P. S. S. in the books Litvak you will find a topic like this.. there are many.
In addition the book Litvak - "do Not whine" and "Psychological gambits".. there are plenty of examples of "debriefing" how to be, what to do and how to begin to behave a little differently than before. (but better to read after studying "Psychological Aikido" and "Psihologicheskogo vampirism")<
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Post by Евгений Кош » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:57

Сергей А wrote:Personally , I think that in Transurfing Zeland you will learn pofigistka to treat your problems with ex-husband. In fact they are far-fetched. They simply do not . But you don't know yet. Read tracering and understand everything yourself. You see the thing is-if you do represent the world around you is bad, then he and Buda like this. Your attention is focused on this representation.
For starters, there are better books :) not as tricky as Zelandovskoj:)
And Zeland IMHO is more suitable for those who had come to the surface and tries to pull the hands :)

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Post by Евгений Кош » Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:09

ЛИЛИЯ-Р wrote:Men will help you in just how to be you to be always with them.
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :(

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Евгений Кош wrote:PS my personal opinion on the here and now, don't stay on one conductor. because he reprogramming but not a teacher. And (this is also my lnoe IMHO) at first a person needs to give at least primary NEW values, from which it can proceed in the current situation, and then already in the process will understand . (because the new values are in harmony with human nature, although at first glance do not look very acceptable to the public and to their (new) right it does not come up.. this is quite correct to take, for the first time, something that is already being used by other successful people ). In the books of Litvak's just given, explained, discussed and shown offer the values which are closer to human harmony . More comfortable and more effective for you ( my opinion ) are the books and the guide as a whole
I fully support Eugene!

In my experience I can say that almost exactly where I started!!!!

Conductor - Zeland (was a complete mess in my head from reading, or rather undermined the perception of the world) – Litvak (attended trainings, read the books) - then he + AVS, literature is varied, the advice of the forum az

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Post by Guest » Fri Aug 15, 2008 13:51

Сергей А wrote:I respect the opinion And Patrusheva, but not all agree with him.
Personally , I think that in Transurfing Zeland you will learn pofigistka to treat your problems with ex-husband. In fact they are far-fetched. They simply do not . But you don't know yet. Read tracering and understand everything yourself. You see the thing is-if you do represent the world around you is bad, then he and Buda like this. Your attention is focused on this representation. So what's stopping you to change your views.? And change the world around you? The interesting thing is that you actually do not interfere.
And stop whining!! if you're from outside to radiate joy and light surrounding you men just can not get you not to notice. That I as a man say. With respect.....
In-in - as in that joke about the interview with the nihilists:
- What about Your principles?
- Yes, I do not care!
Zeland I as the detective read, but the philosophy is to put not advise. Some pendulums are worth. Earlier You with the challenges fought and somehow evolved, and now with pendulums: "But, my energy want to eat? And here figs to you!" and drive your emotions to the basement. And there they slowly and chew.
The principle is in fact simple: "All you care about, multiplied!". There were no pendulums before, but now it is a reality on the subtle planes, is compacted and with each read a book (cleverly written). What is it? Why and who needs it??? Where military actions are the basis, - not good. This is my principled position.
Gregory Kurlov in the books lies much more constructive principle, based on love and Christian principles: "You're the boss. And behave prudently, and you will succeed". Of course, if used to fight, that Seeland as a balm for the soul - that he is an enemy - SIC him, boys!" But believe in yourself that you're the boss is hard...
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Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Fri Aug 15, 2008 18:49

Евгений Кош wrote:LILIYA-R wrote(a):
Men you will help in just how to be you to be always with them.
Yes you don't get attached to the words .I'm not a man-hater. I meant that it is purely a male perspective on life . But asking for help here from women .And we have brains work differently. And men are so "affectionately" :wink: "enough of your whining . Yes, it helped. And we women sometimes ponies and helps you and or anyone get tired of hearing our whining and help. :wink:

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Post by Лисичка75 » Sun Aug 17, 2008 1:10

Thanks again. I'm just doing the first steps. Necessarily znakomlus with the literature, which you advise and listen to pravednika. And whether you want to listen to the disc "To self hypnosis and hypnosis"? So hard to get used to being alone....

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:47

Лисичка75 wrote:Thanks again. I'm just doing the first steps. Necessarily znakomlus with the literature, which you advise and listen to pravednika. And whether you want to listen to the disc "To self hypnosis and hypnosis"? So hard to get used to being alone....
And to live when? Enough to start guide and a Fool. :)
And do not use labels... Remember - everything You think - is multiplied!

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Post by Щёкн Итрч » Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:52

From Georgian wife left him. He sits and thinks:
- Adyn, adyn savsem... :cry:
- Adyn, adyn savsem? :roll:
- Adyn, adyn savsem! :lol:

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Post by Щёкн Итрч » Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:00

ЛИЛИЯ-Р wrote:
Евгений Кош wrote:LILIYA-R wrote(a):
Men you will help in just how to be you to be always with them.
Yes you don't get attached to the words .I'm not a man-hater. I meant that it is purely a male perspective on life . But asking for help here from women .And we have brains work differently. And men are so "affectionately" :wink: "enough of your whining . Yes, it helped. And we women sometimes ponies and helps you and or anyone get tired of hearing our whining and help. :wink:
One woman complains to her friend:
- You represent, my with kurorta a telegram sent money requests...
- So what?
- Duck because no to write: "Out of the money. :oops: "he writes: "Left dneg. :evil: "
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Post by Евгений Кош » Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:17

ЛИЛИЯ-Р wrote:I'm not a man-hater. I meant that it is purely a male perspective on life .
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Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:18

Евгений Кош wrote:LILIYA-R wrote(a):
I'm not a man-hater. I meant that it is purely a male perspective on life .
The ancients believed that snot brains without :lol: So you too much then (don't cry) don't kill for any reason, take care of your eyes :
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Post by Евгений Кош » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:54

ЛИЛИЯ-Р wrote:the Ancients believed that snot brains without Laughing So much that you really do not kill for any reason, take care of your eyes :
A purely male perspective on life, can know Pure man :)
but your case is a female look female interpretation of women's views on female understanding of male behavior :)

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Post by Лена_гость » Tue Aug 19, 2008 20:16

Your condition is quite natural and understandable, and then you should not expect instant changes or take one thing as a panacea, and to show high demands on yourself and your life, so as not to be disappointed, start with the adoption of: accept it as is at the moment, let it be the starting point for the movement for the better. In your case, if resources permit, it would be good for an individual consultation to a good specialist-a therapist, rather to the Gestalt-therapist. In General, the combination of discs of A. Patrushev and individual (you can still plus group) therapy very useful, because the discs stimulate the brain, consciousness, and work with a psychologist (therapist) to understand themselves more efficiently, faster. And it is better not to delay this until the current state is not passed into the chronic or deteriorated.
On disks I would suggest to start with "star wanderer", where the brain is stimulated, and activity is increased, and the 3rd track is designed to remove the mental blocks, it can help You to reduce the "fixation" on the bad.
On books: I would suggest to Pravdin read (can support-that is, positively easy to read), another book Vereshagin D. S. system (Deir, there is the website) - that they in their aims and desires will find a particular technique (for the purposes of - this is the 2nd book, but to understand the meaning, of course, you need to first start), although in a state of depression or nervous breakdown don't need to undertake it, it is better first to recover, but check out for review already. And yet, books are just books, my advice is for an individual consultation (see above).
And the Council today, right now: try to understand, allowing You to feel good and full with her husband that he gave You: respect? support? care? love? approval? praise? security? appreciated You? What happened to him, what he did not now (after all, You were the same person)? why was empty? Realizing - start now to give YOURSELF the same, show yourself to the care, love, respect, etc. Find your own way to take care of yourself, only you will be able to do it for yourself better than any other person because nobody knows you and your needs better than you (the other is that guess can). This will help You to fill from within, to move towards self-sufficiency and independence.<

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Post by Юлия Bent » Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:43

Pravdina more women helps, this is a woman's book
Sun light is also great
strike the horse with a dose of positivity to negativity!!!!!!! :ay :ay :ay

in General, we are all different and what works for one does not for another
go to a bookstore, wait in there, rummage
what books will seem cute and palatable those and read:)
to Church, go to confession,
really helps clean
order the service for yourself
well, the Bible is the book of books -the fount of wisdom and goodness
good luck to you! everything will be fine!!!! :ay :ay :ay

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