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Post by Евгений Кош » Wed Nov 19, 2008 13:01

художник wrote:But is still discussed working with the disk, rather the effectiveness of this work and probably more it would be interesting to know who uses what to work with it.
Of course :) when discussing the work with the disk, the MORE, the discussion will be when the goal is not the DRIVE but the aim is self - development :).
in my humble opinion ( IMHO) for training (let's call it) "three-dimensional thinking" - the disk of self-Hypnosis - no..
it is , perhaps, only indirectly - to learn how to effectively enter into the alpha state. but not for installations for the development of "dimensional thinking" :)

this is my IMHO on the here and now.

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Post by ванёкК » Wed Nov 19, 2008 22:02

something has been written , but no good there :lol: thinking and a deep structure of what? as for the TRANS it log or in a lucid dream if so smart? bi why alpha needed if the desired Delta? :lol: especially in the Astral possibilities of creative and other more than Ease here as security... :? There, when the TRANS comes in, there are "cartoons" "before my eyes" , but at the same time and think now that this is happening in a dream and what's the connection? someone knows something? for example, the expectation of entering into a trance can also litter the experience of scoring the images the visual field or in lieu of memory in the trance images of a particular thought and we on these images here and there slap (I think) subsequently adding to these images of things from themselves so they (the images of the memory of thoughts) give rise to any Association... in a word hemorrhoids there enough... :lol: az but most likely there (WWII dream, a trance , if talk about self-strance and not about hypnosis the other person you), something with parts of the brain occurs, and some have neural paths linking those centres and additional padding, that would achieve the state of "body asleep mind awake" what would the mechanism of sleep remained the same , but the parts responsible for conscious deyatelnosti worked as when you Wake... az :ay :)

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Post by художник » Wed Nov 19, 2008 23:26

Евгений Кош wrote:Naturally when discussing the work with the disk, the MORE, the discussion will be when the goal is not the DRIVE but the aim is self - development .
With this, I fully agree and meant the drive as a tool to achieve the goal. Agree that there are a lot of nuances to work with him. In Cuba a lot of things you can dig up in terms of of the correctness the compilation of the units under him in any area of self-development, but maybe someone will want to share their personal experiences.

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Post by художник » Thu Nov 20, 2008 0:44

ванёкК wrote:in TRANS to enter
"Entering the trance state requires three conditions: deep physical relaxation, clean surface mind, and a mental technique.
TRANS — very simple doable and natural state; the entrance to this state is when the physical body falls asleep but the mind remains awake. It's very simple: the frequency of brain waves changes in response to changes in the level of brain activity. The less brain activity, the deeper the level of trance."
Robert Bruce "Astral dynamics"
ванёкК wrote:or in a lucid dream
The Books By Stephen Laberge http://www.koob.ru/
And here is the link to his film http://www.mindmachine.ru/viewtopic.php?t=1501

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Post by ванёкК » Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:00

artist thank you for the links :) Laberge read 1 book and met somewhere that you speak very well about Robert the Bruce I too, think it's Astral Dynamics is the best book currently on the esoteric, the Astral... az really citanul an excerpt from his latest book "practical protection from the wickedness.." th-there it has been written... :lol:

"Entering the trance state requires three conditions: deep physical relaxation, clean surface mind, and a mental technique.
1) approx. 2) of pure reason I understand not to watch "cartoons" (hypnagogic imagery) and not think CA. but it's hard not to think for like 10 minutes or more and think I still have that would assess a state of trance... conclusion it is necessary to train a length of purity of mind and to reduce the frequency of inspection of the TRANS approx.... view... 3) here is Chan something is not right... pure mind + mental technique? :roll: (and there starts why I thought about it , and see it... :lol: )
It's very simple: the frequency of brain waves changes in response to changes in the level of brain activity. The less brain activity, the deeper the level of trance.
only in a dream kind of like the brain is more active than in the waking state works... :roll:

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Post by гость » Mon Dec 01, 2008 0:40

Good evening,
Question can I use self-hypnosis and properly set goals to change the body?
Actually that's what I do:
http://www.gratis.pp.ru/index.php?s=&act=SF&f=98
I would like connect to this cuckoo some equipment(samogipnoza auditory training well, etc.)

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Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Fri Dec 05, 2008 18:05

It is possible and how

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Post by Guest » Fri Dec 05, 2008 19:20

well, who does not tell you HOW!
could there be some sort of taxonomy?

Andrew, why are You silent?

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Fri Dec 05, 2008 21:43

Anonymous wrote:well, who does not tell you HOW!
could there be some sort of taxonomy?

Andrew, why are You silent?
Yes, I have already answered this question, but I have no time to look for a link...:)

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Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Sat Dec 06, 2008 1:00

quote=guest]Good afternoon,
Question can I use self-hypnosis and properly set goals to change the body?[/quote]

I wonder if his "method" to tell .Tobish as I did. That's not what my :o . But I collected everything he knew and took advantage of that.
Put the disc healing before and after switching said what you want to see your body. And saw myself clearly what I would like to see. But first I spoke to my body was grateful for the fact that it is what it is and that I wanted to bring to your appearance. Was talking to the subconscious mind to exclude those mechanisms which are able to help me. And with the consciousness too . I consciously in the mental images and internal screens projected myself-I want to be. And then I helped myself to those that did the drive ideomotor massage. A mental massage of the body like mental hands and removed what I wanted and presented himself what he wanted. And not rude like clay. Namely, as massage.( One time I helped a person recover from surgery in his half body was paralyzed. I was taught In N. Bogdanovich)And sometimes he said it out loud to myself affirmations on this topic.
But the body does not change externally if no internal work with the thoughts and also with the authorities. After all, if a person has obesity or dropsy, or diabetes and he is a complete external clean hard.Since it is caused by internal changes . Here first is to work with what to identify what that is and work with health it and to improve it . And the body itself will react.
By the way if you just build muscle it is also ideomotor massage and mental training with those items of sports equipment which you would used when "natural" fizicheskoi load on those muscle groups which you'd like to swap . A first look at anatomy. At least the literature how and where the muscles of biceps and so on .This is in order for you to visualize what you want .
And if you gain skill with time everything will be obtained on time..
I'm going to subway and doing ideomotor massage Norbekova. Calling all those feelings when you fizicheskom contact. :)
Cautiously it is true that people are not confused. :o
Very good to the spine and especially the upper part .When mentally messires the top of the blades of the shoulders comes a rush of formication :o Times overzealous uncle looked at me with a puzzled look and asked pain?. Had to lie-Frozen say.
That's all .
Curious to see what had I achieved? Unfortunately the photos of the last three years did not But if you do lay .
And still rides very well energy through the body and dousing the method of Porfiry Ivanov.
Sorry for such a long explanation . But if good and gradually doing it is easy<

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Post by Guest » Sat Dec 06, 2008 3:51

thank you Lilies-R for such a detailed reply...
With Arbekovskiy technicians familiar, but forgotten, I will now remember.
Andrew, to be honest, I did not found about this on the forum.
There are only messages where YOU are going in the near future to produce these drives...
That's all...

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sat Dec 06, 2008 13:25

Anonymous wrote:thank you Lilies-R for such a detailed reply...
With Arbekovskiy technicians familiar, but forgotten, I will now remember.
Andrew, to be honest, I did not found about this on the forum.
There are only messages where YOU are going in the near future to produce these drives...
That's all...
There is a link to a specific book.

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Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Tue Dec 09, 2008 23:38

Can CD-da to share but the video I have no (Norbekov) It will give you the skills entry into the state .There are good training methods sensations. And this is important when working with disks of Andrew. It's simple and affordable. And fun is important.
And the rest will learn in the process. Go for it az :ay

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Post by Guest » Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:43

Question to Andrey Patrushev. If in the past there is something unpleasant that implicitly prevent life - listening to the disc Hypnosis and self hypnosis I just realized - since the pictures were forgotten from the distant past. Can I use affirmations or affirmati to get rid of, to let go, to forget this unpleasant? If Yes, please help to correctly formulate.

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Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Wed Jan 07, 2009 16:17

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Гость wrote:a Question for Andrei Patrushev. If in the past there is something unpleasant that implicitly prevent life - listening to the disc Hypnosis and self hypnosis I just realized - since the pictures were forgotten from the distant past. Can I use affirmations or affirmati to get rid of, to let go, to forget this unpleasant? If Yes, please help to correctly formulate.
Explorer redesigned :wink: To forget ? A better way to understand to forgive and let go . Then the memory will not bother. In any case, the Conductor helps without words

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Post by Guest » Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:39

Andrew, tell me. If you record a track installations and to mix it with the "Hypnotic trance", making installation below the audible level - will this work? Or better, to the audibility of the phrases were left? Needless to say some final phrase at the end of the suggestion, to exit trance? First you want to log in?

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Post by Гость2 » Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:39

support question, I thought to do the same,but it's easier to write down affirmations and in parallel enable two player in the comp, one with the program, another with a repeating affirmations...

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Wed Mar 18, 2009 14:34

Anonymous wrote:Andrew, tell me. If you record a track installations and to mix it with the "Hypnotic trance", making installation below the audible level - will this work? Or better, to the audibility of the phrases were left? Needless to say some final phrase at the end of the suggestion, to exit trance? First you want to log in?
Own voice is a powerful tool for trance immersion. Profile more quality, pay attention to safety, and it clearly set the time in a trance and conditions of the instantaneous output of the TRANS (under force majeure). Good luck!

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Post by Тапка » Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:34

Andrew , pls enlighten me, there are 3 stages of trance - what is the maximum enters in a trance your audiospace???Let's say the device "Electric" brings to only 2 stages of trance.

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Post by Тапка » Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:39

And one more question - can binaural frequencies beats to help achieve the 3 stages of trance,the deepest and most effective???ATP advance.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sat Jun 27, 2009 21:15

The question is not correct. :) TRANS - this is Your skill. No one and nothing can enter there, except You (by and large this is true even for chemistry). All exercise is achieved... :?
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Post by либрексен » Sat Jun 27, 2009 23:16

Hi Andrew. On account of the harmfulness what can I say? Just recently came across a web site where length and breadth are painted warning against the use of such akusticheskaya drugs, there directly and it is written. Unfortunately the addresses do not remember. I think that it is unnatural, and anything unnatural has often led to violations of the body. What do you think?

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Post by либрексен » Sat Jun 27, 2009 23:19

neuroanesthesia, Elenite.

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Post by Guest » Sun Jun 28, 2009 0:28

либрексен wrote:Just recently stumbled in the Internet on the website where along and across the painted warning against the use of such akusticheskaya drugs, there directly and it is written.
Guys just follow the social order, I hope they are not ordered. Like many others, who "wrote on the Internet".
либрексен wrote:I think that it is unnatural, and anything unnatural has often led to violations of the body. What do you think?
To disturbances in our body leads to all our (especially urban) (and especially office life). As well as TV (option - news-no), especially at night people burn like a match...
Still very good, our pharmacy sells without a prescription ALL that is not psihotropnye drugs. The magnitude of the people "treated" generally speaking, prescription drugs are impressive. And nobody writes business type.
And how much we alcoholics do, beer in particular, and how more of them over the past half-year also, like, no problem.
Well, about "harm" "akusticheskaya drugs" - I'll pass..
Let Andrew respond. The only thing - about "unnatural" - crap. Enough to sit under a cliff by the river (over a good sound reflections happen) and such examples - as they want. Not to mention is definitely harmful industrial noise, which is not very estestvenno (and all types of modulation it is possible to find complete), but the authorities allowed, and the "writers" of the Internet is ignored.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:09

либрексен wrote:hi Andrew. On account of the harmfulness what can I say? Just recently came across a web site where length and breadth are painted warning against the use of such akusticheskaya drugs, there directly and it is written. Unfortunately the addresses do not remember. I think that it is unnatural, and anything unnatural has often led to violations of the body. What do you think?
Over 15 years work no harm, but good, :) I have not found... :?
I don't know why people write it (he met)... Probably in every case the reasons are different - from self-promotion to the ordering of pharmaceutical companies, who generally try to suppress any physical therapy...
At the expense of naturalness - what could be more natural light and sound???

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