Good day to all.
I was interested in the collection of discs from Andrei Patrushev, however, very confused by one thing. Andrei Patrushev, who are you? You are a direct developer of these techniques incorporated in the CDs or the representative or ...? Has there been research on the subject of impact studies on these drives in the human psyche? If so, what of the results. After all, this is an informational influence, which may manifest itself even not on the person who is currently engaged in the drives, and even on its offspring. I want to know, Your methods have clear scientific justification, or, the so-called research that is put on people? Maybe it really can help in one, but not if it causes harm in another.
A lot of people sell techniques to improve their abilities. Theory over human is becoming more and more popular among people. Everyone wants to be better than others, and that is the problem, and like You are giving them is better But we still live becomes. And this is due to the fact that in all methods considered the one person, and it is necessary, I think that, to consider humanity as a whole, the only way to achieve our unity, and thus multiply our strength for the common good. Well when a person has good intentions, become stronger, more successful to help his family, for example, as if to confuse, deceive, ... others, and such a lot more and becoming more and more. This can not be avoided, if reduced to the consideration of the individual.
Remember, in the legends of each nation and the stories about the power, the owner of which can gain power, and depending on what thoughts are his, he can turn this power to good or evil direction. In these legends of the guard always stood guard, and only certain people could gain power. You having the knowledge, just give them to anyone without hesitation for a good or for an evil deed they will be used. Is this correct? You became a hostage of the forces which have.
Faced every day with many people, I often see in their eyes not fear not anger not kindness, but simply absent-mindedness, they are absorbed in themselves, such a person can be easily confused – imposing false ideas... Many of us don't have clear goals in life, the goals that are truly worthy of the gift that we were awarded – life.
My goal is to show people that we are United and should stick together, should render each other assistance and try to benefit all, not just for yourself. The laws of nature are cruel, but our strength is in unity. I think you need to do research, the results of which could help humanity as a whole, enough to close our eyes to the suffering of others, many of them innocent! It is very difficult, because we must first cultivate good qualities... Think about it, please do not give Your expertise on the right and left as before of give, you need to show the right example how you can use them. Think on this, please.
Sorry if that is not so, these are my thoughts, so how very much my heart aches looking at the suffering of others and the emptiness and indifference in the hearts of those who perpetrate them. I'm trying my best to help people...and will do so always...<
Think about it
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Good day! Since you said you were interested in disks of Andrey Patrushev, then before you start a discussion, better to review the material in detail. At least read the materials on the website and threads on the forum about these drives. Then I think some of the questions will disappear by itself. And especially we will talk more in detail.
One can say that the claimed technology does not make supermen. On the forum you can derive from how and why it is done, even there is a separate issue regarding the setting of goals.
To help others - it is commendable, but using discord. I agree that the person needs to first of all give the fishing rod and teach to fish, not to throw the fish, thus exacerbating the situation. And for this you should primarily understand themselves and improve their quality of life in all senses.
Good day! Since you said you were interested in disks of Andrey Patrushev, then before you start a discussion, better to review the material in detail. At least read the materials on the website and threads on the forum about these drives. Then I think some of the questions will disappear by itself. And especially we will talk more in detail.
One can say that the claimed technology does not make supermen. On the forum you can derive from how and why it is done, even there is a separate issue regarding the setting of goals.
To help others - it is commendable, but using discord. I agree that the person needs to first of all give the fishing rod and teach to fish, not to throw the fish, thus exacerbating the situation. And for this you should primarily understand themselves and improve their quality of life in all senses.
I searched in Google about the old Patrushev . That's what nashol :
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Patrushev Andrei V., born in 1961, Moscow.
Personal interests: extreme psychology, sports psychology, training, teaching, self-regulation, biofeedback, development of mental and physical abilities, suggestopedia and suggestology, special psycho-physiological research (polygraph test).
Developed and recorded audio programs for psychotherapy and training of mental abilities that were tested in various medical and educational institutions and has shown high efficiency.
Area of scientific interests: psychophysiology.
Graduated from the chemistry Department UPI them. S. M. Kirov to Ekaterinburg. During his studies he worked in the laboratory on the synthesis of antitumor and antiviral agents. Has two patent applications (in collaboration) in this field.
After graduation he worked in the defense industry, and then in the police Department of the Sverdlovsk region as an expert chemist.
In 1995, as a leading expert of the police Department s/o was sent on a business trip in the United States in a Federal Agency to combat drug trafficking.
In parallel with the main work to educate ourselves in psychology, physiology and spirituality. As a result, the post of chief expert of the police Department s/o moved into the role of the psychologist-the inspector of Urui of the MIA of Russia.
Introduced in practice of work of emerging modern methods of diagnostics and training abilities:
Method of measurement of bioelectromagnetic reactivity in informative zones to identify those who use drugs, on the device 100 Lira (this method is decorated patent No. of the Russian Federation in co-authorship);
- Relieve stress, activation of memory and attention (a method of light-sound brain training – devices on the Nova Pro , Proteus , Zen Master );
- Activation of memory and attention, self-regulation on the bio feedback device "Thoughtstream" software "Mental Games".
By order of the Department of staffing of the Ministry of internal Affairs of the Russian Federation has developed the following methods:
- "Psychological support of work with underachieving cadets and listeners of educational institutions of the MIA of Russia";
- "Methodology for conducting training sessions with staff of the ATS under various conditions of performance";
- " Methodological recommendations. Forms and methods of psychological assistance to police officers injured while performing service-combat tasks", made training and reference manual "Psychological consequences of the use of drugs".
Recently, up to and including dismissal from the ranks of the interior Ministry to retire (the retirement age) worked as a senior lecturer of the Department of professional pedagogy and psychology of Urui of the MIA of Russia. Conducted workshops and trainings in two areas: self-regulation and activation of creative abilities.
In addition to teaching held a special psycho-physiological research on the device 100 Lira (monitoring for drug prevention), carried out psychological support teams of the Institute of football (in 2004, the Champions of Russia among the universities), volleyball, shooting from the fighting weapon, worked with the slow students - conducted trainings on psycho-physiological activation of memory and attention on the bio feedback device "Thoughtstream".
Currently continues to work as the head of the laboratory of psycho-physiological research at the Department of normal physiology of the Ural State Medical Academy, which is directly involved in research in the field of sound and light brain training and biofeedback
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Patrushev Andrei V., born in 1961, Moscow.
Personal interests: extreme psychology, sports psychology, training, teaching, self-regulation, biofeedback, development of mental and physical abilities, suggestopedia and suggestology, special psycho-physiological research (polygraph test).
Developed and recorded audio programs for psychotherapy and training of mental abilities that were tested in various medical and educational institutions and has shown high efficiency.
Area of scientific interests: psychophysiology.
Graduated from the chemistry Department UPI them. S. M. Kirov to Ekaterinburg. During his studies he worked in the laboratory on the synthesis of antitumor and antiviral agents. Has two patent applications (in collaboration) in this field.
After graduation he worked in the defense industry, and then in the police Department of the Sverdlovsk region as an expert chemist.
In 1995, as a leading expert of the police Department s/o was sent on a business trip in the United States in a Federal Agency to combat drug trafficking.
In parallel with the main work to educate ourselves in psychology, physiology and spirituality. As a result, the post of chief expert of the police Department s/o moved into the role of the psychologist-the inspector of Urui of the MIA of Russia.
Introduced in practice of work of emerging modern methods of diagnostics and training abilities:
Method of measurement of bioelectromagnetic reactivity in informative zones to identify those who use drugs, on the device 100 Lira (this method is decorated patent No. of the Russian Federation in co-authorship);
- Relieve stress, activation of memory and attention (a method of light-sound brain training – devices on the Nova Pro , Proteus , Zen Master );
- Activation of memory and attention, self-regulation on the bio feedback device "Thoughtstream" software "Mental Games".
By order of the Department of staffing of the Ministry of internal Affairs of the Russian Federation has developed the following methods:
- "Psychological support of work with underachieving cadets and listeners of educational institutions of the MIA of Russia";
- "Methodology for conducting training sessions with staff of the ATS under various conditions of performance";
- " Methodological recommendations. Forms and methods of psychological assistance to police officers injured while performing service-combat tasks", made training and reference manual "Psychological consequences of the use of drugs".
Recently, up to and including dismissal from the ranks of the interior Ministry to retire (the retirement age) worked as a senior lecturer of the Department of professional pedagogy and psychology of Urui of the MIA of Russia. Conducted workshops and trainings in two areas: self-regulation and activation of creative abilities.
In addition to teaching held a special psycho-physiological research on the device 100 Lira (monitoring for drug prevention), carried out psychological support teams of the Institute of football (in 2004, the Champions of Russia among the universities), volleyball, shooting from the fighting weapon, worked with the slow students - conducted trainings on psycho-physiological activation of memory and attention on the bio feedback device "Thoughtstream".
Currently continues to work as the head of the laboratory of psycho-physiological research at the Department of normal physiology of the Ural State Medical Academy, which is directly involved in research in the field of sound and light brain training and biofeedback
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Of the above-described happy that Patrushev is not the next Messiah of the White Brotherhood and a former employee of the interior Ministry. At the same time it is alarming. Most likely his research activity is under the hood of the FSB. Even earlier I have read that the FSB has a whole Department for their studies in psychology. This is a promising direction in science.
As it is known on fundamental research requires a lot of time and money. I do not think that Andrei Patrushev more financial opportunities. From here the question about the quality of the studies and as a result the technology used psychoactive disks from Patrushev.
I guess that the investigation is not over yet . That is, the use of "raw" technology. All who listen to these discs automatically become "Guinea pigs".
As it is known on fundamental research requires a lot of time and money. I do not think that Andrei Patrushev more financial opportunities. From here the question about the quality of the studies and as a result the technology used psychoactive disks from Patrushev.
I guess that the investigation is not over yet . That is, the use of "raw" technology. All who listen to these discs automatically become "Guinea pigs".
Apollo
Thank You for the useful information. Please, everyone, think before once again resorting to "audition" "bought" Your music, whether you volunteer testers "raw" technology. You anyone gave a clear guarantee that this will not cause any harm not only You but also Your surroundings. Do not think that You can control! Where a clear conclusion on these "disks" and not on different techniques referenced by the author? Let's wait for him...
Thank You for the useful information. Please, everyone, think before once again resorting to "audition" "bought" Your music, whether you volunteer testers "raw" technology. You anyone gave a clear guarantee that this will not cause any harm not only You but also Your surroundings. Do not think that You can control! Where a clear conclusion on these "disks" and not on different techniques referenced by the author? Let's wait for him...
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In the flower Bed in the theme of "Black PR" as many as two topics that are discussed more than here.
I can say also that (according to intelligence, the office of heaven) - the identity of the Messiah A. Patrushev is missing
so the question - is he the Messiah - there is no in itself ( in connection with absence at it of such certificate)
p.s. shyutka.
p.s.s as my one friend says "every Deputy PI$Dec his happiness" So the experiments on a personal matter. And the WARRANTY here is only personal feelings of trust or not trust, need or not need in a particular technology and experiment. Although COMPREHENSIVE information about the drives and technology - posted both on the forum and in the descriptions to the disks.
and yet - those who doubt - it is better not to get involved, because DOUBT is a sign of internal mistrust and therefore hints from the subconscious that it is not ready to face it.
All the time.
I can say also that (according to intelligence, the office of heaven) - the identity of the Messiah A. Patrushev is missing
so the question - is he the Messiah - there is no in itself ( in connection with absence at it of such certificate) p.s. shyutka.
p.s.s as my one friend says "every Deputy PI$Dec his happiness"
So the experiments on a personal matter. And the WARRANTY here is only personal feelings of trust or not trust, need or not need in a particular technology and experiment. Although COMPREHENSIVE information about the drives and technology - posted both on the forum and in the descriptions to the disks.and yet - those who doubt - it is better not to get involved, because DOUBT is a sign of internal mistrust and therefore hints from the subconscious that it is not ready to face it.
All the time.
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1)"You having the knowledge, just give them to anyone without hesitation for a good or for an evil deed they will be used. Is this correct? You became a hostage of the forces which have. "Алексей35 wrote: A lot of people sell techniques to improve their abilities. Theory over human is becoming more and more popular among people. Everyone wants to be better than others, and that is the problem, and like You are giving them is better But we still live becomes. And this is due to the fact that in all methods considered the one person, and it is necessary, I think that, to consider humanity as a whole, the only way to achieve our unity, and thus multiply our strength for the common good. Well when a person has good intentions, become stronger, more successful to help his family, for example, as if to confuse, deceive, ... others, and such a lot more and becoming more and more. This can not be avoided, if reduced to the consideration of the individual.
Remember, in the legends of each nation and the stories about the power, the owner of which can gain power, and depending on what thoughts are his, he can turn this power to good or evil direction. In these legends of the guard always stood guard, and only certain people could gain power. You having the knowledge, just give them to anyone without hesitation for a good or for an evil deed they will be used. Is this correct? You became a hostage of the forces which have.
Faced every day with many people, I often see in their eyes not fear not anger not kindness, but simply absent-mindedness, they are absorbed in themselves, such a person can be easily confused – imposing false ideas... Many of us don't have clear goals in life, the goals that are truly worthy of the gift that we were awarded – life.
My goal is to show people that we are United and should stick together, should render each other assistance and try to benefit all, not just for yourself. The laws of nature are cruel, but our strength is in unity. I think you need to do research, the results of which could help humanity as a whole, enough to close our eyes to the suffering of others, many of them innocent! It is very difficult, because we must first cultivate good qualities... Think about it, please do not give Your expertise on the right and left as before of give, you need to show the right example how you can use them. Think on this, please.
Sorry if that is not so, these are my thoughts, so how very much my heart aches looking at the suffering of others and the emptiness and indifference in the hearts of those who perpetrate them. I'm trying my best to help people...and will do so always...
2)"My goal is to show people that we are United and should stick together, should render each other assistance and try to benefit all, not just for yourself. The laws of nature are cruel, but our strength is in unity. I think you need to do research, the results of which could help humanity as a whole, enough to close our eyes to the suffering of others, many of them innocent!"
Perhaps my level of perception and understanding below Your, by this I do not understand the GENERAL meaning.
in part 1) You write "give all" and then ( part 2) ) "we need to do research, the results of which could help humanity as a whole."
And about the suffering of others who are innocent then I do not have it all figured out - what does the technology of the AVS associated with that?
From the General text, I realized that You somehow alarmed at the current situation of humanity, Yes I agree that there are a lot of things that brings tears.
And who is going to change everything? A. Patrushev personally? I? You?
Change it together, each making a contribution to this cause.
For myself - I decided that I needed to "build" to make a contribution to "changes". And develop.
You, too, will soon realize that the same concept that "turns the world is not so good as we would like" - this is not enough. You already have the feelings that perceive it ( very well).
But in order to "change" you must also be able to do it. According to this proverb which is present from the birth of the WORD is still active - help yourself and you help everyone.(being able to help yourself, you will KNOW EXACTLY HOW to DO IT, with this knowledge YOU will be ABLE to HELP OTHERS AND BE an EXAMPLE AS a RESULT of this KNOWLEDGE) and KNOWING that while Sam does not help THAT YOU CAN offer to OTHERS? UNTIL THEY ARE THE SAME AS THEY? FROM WHERE YOU WILL KNOW THAT IT WORKS IF THEY WERE NOT?
The fact that one of the "advanced" will stray from good purposes and would be indecent to use their "advanced" ability, but what to do - is the essence of man (duality) and that is the essence of God ( he gives us the power of choice), but there are times when "positive" ( let's call it so) is supported by MORE than "negative" and too played, the system will give birth to soovetstvuyuschim opposed to impact. ( System to always seek self-preservation, this self-rescue is its original purpose).
Will give another small and no big secret.
Walking the Path, all that You have written, you know it's all the more brighter and more cardio.. they just KNOW that they can help and know how on this and keep quiet, trying to advance in development to put more of their efforts to "change" - that is, they gradually attain LOVE.
I liked how about the Love Kryon said:
"...the first sign of love is that LOVE the QUIET
...the second sign of love. LOVE HAS NO PURPOSE. ...
the third feature of love is that LOVE does NOT BOAST. Now with genuine maturity and spiritual greatness, it is silent.
LOVE HAS THE WISDOM TO FLAWLESSLY USE THE OTHER THREE YOUR SIGN!"..
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And how do You imagine "don't give Your expertise on the right and left at the same moment as before from give, you need to show the right example how you can use them".Алексей35 wrote: It is very difficult, because we must first cultivate good qualities... Think about it, please do not give Your expertise on the right and left as before of give, you need to show the right example how you can use them. Think on this, please.
That is - don't give away, but show an example.
That is - teach a man to operate the shovel without the shovel.
Hmm.
But it turns out - anyway will.
Then if Your opinion is to be based, here emerges a claim not only to A. Patrushev, but also to the yogis, their practices, and to God himself
for he is in us originally laid mind, very inquisitive mind ( including intuition and a lot of hidden features), and by the way did not show how to use "the right example" -
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Next, I'm not about disks A. Patrushev..
and so the development of the theme of assurance.
by the way I still haven't found a CONCLUSION about what to THINK it's safe to themselves and others
So all help, to stop thinking, because You gave no clear guarantee that Your thoughts will not cause any harm not only You but also Your surroundings. Do not think that You can control!
and so it dawned on the many people who always ask for a security from someone for something. Although of course the proportion of common skepticism - normal But it's skepticism(internal search) and not Issued by someone guarantee .
and so the development of the theme of assurance.
by the way
I still haven't found a CONCLUSION about what to THINK it's safe to themselves and others So all help, to stop thinking, because You gave no clear guarantee that Your thoughts will not cause any harm not only You but also Your surroundings. Do not think that You can control!
and so it dawned on the many people who always ask for a security from someone for something. Although of course the proportion of common skepticism - normal
But it's skepticism(internal search) and not Issued by someone guarantee .I have nothing against scientific research activities of Andrey Patrushev . I am not black PR. God forbid the health and inspiration to Andrew in his quest to do good to people. But reason tells us that we need to be careful.
Here they say that full information about Patrushev and his discs are available on this forum . I can't see
tell me where you can learn about :
1.About medical and educational institutions where they received the approbation of audioprogram in psychocorrection . Please address . And if possible links to the experience of Andrey Patrushev in these institutions.
2.It is known that Andrey has applications for inventions (co-author). What inventions and who is the co-author .
3. Andrei Patrushev has developed a method of measuring the bioelectromagnetic reactivity in informative zones to identify those who use drugs, on the device 100 Lira (this method is decorated patent No. of the Russian Federation in co-authorship) -- PLEASE PATENT NUMBER . SO YOU CAN CHECK.
4.By order of the Department of staffing of the Ministry of internal Affairs of the Russian Federation has developed the following methods:-- If you can link to information in Department of staffing of the Ministry of internal Affairs of the Russian Federation Andrey Pro-designed methodology.
5. I looked at the Ural state medical Academy in the Department of physiology mention about Your person . Do not founded. There is much written about the head of the Department Bankova Valery Ivanovich, doctor of biological Sciences, Professor. Andrey Patrushev - head of the laboratory at the Department of physiology has not. It's not fair
. Here is the link to the page of the Department http://www.usma.ru/department/norm_f
Here they say that full information about Patrushev and his discs are available on this forum . I can't see
tell me where you can learn about :1.About medical and educational institutions where they received the approbation of audioprogram in psychocorrection . Please address . And if possible links to the experience of Andrey Patrushev in these institutions.
2.It is known that Andrey has applications for inventions (co-author). What inventions and who is the co-author .
3. Andrei Patrushev has developed a method of measuring the bioelectromagnetic reactivity in informative zones to identify those who use drugs, on the device 100 Lira (this method is decorated patent No. of the Russian Federation in co-authorship) -- PLEASE PATENT NUMBER . SO YOU CAN CHECK.
4.By order of the Department of staffing of the Ministry of internal Affairs of the Russian Federation has developed the following methods:-- If you can link to information in Department of staffing of the Ministry of internal Affairs of the Russian Federation Andrey Pro-designed methodology.
5. I looked at the Ural state medical Academy in the Department of physiology mention about Your person . Do not founded. There is much written about the head of the Department Bankova Valery Ivanovich, doctor of biological Sciences, Professor. Andrey Patrushev - head of the laboratory at the Department of physiology has not. It's not fair
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for example.
http://www.mindmachine.ru/audio/brain_massage.htm
by the way - the authors of the site.. there the link is not working on "ideas of Tomatis" ( there just painted a lot of important).
and additives ( see article) it is easy to be the next thing
"Light and sound brain stimulation as a method approved by the MoH (PR. no.4 from 26.11.97 US health Ministry). Light and sound machines are safe for most people, but some can cause problems. For example, we strongly recommend people suffering from various types of seizures, epilepsy or increased light sensitivity, cardiac arrhythmias or other cardiac disease and has a pacemaker systematically taking stimulants or tranquilizers, psychotropic drugs, and also alcohol and drugs, to use light and sound machines only under medical supervision."
in addition.
read http://www.mindmachine.ru/articles/problem_learning.htm
it indicated the institution where the research was conducted ( at least in training with the help of AVS). there is, and the theoretical calculations.
PS questions like Yours come up all the time, and this will not go away. I see that the forum almost everyone ( from old forum) trying to respond to the constant reviving of similar issues, but then at the end of the topics is still INQUIRING finds everything on the site ( with or without).
In addition there is a lot of information on the Internet, it is important to find. For
1) technology itself - has been approved by the Ministry of health of the Russian Federation ( i.e. guarantee of security of the technology is confirmed by Gosudarstvom)
2) more precise answers you can find here (forum, articles) ( still any of the old people sooner or later will answer and show that one SEES)
3) more detailed questions (number of acts research, copy etc) - this is a private matter for the QUESTIONER is allowed by the government, each time to prove that AVS are allowed thing - thank you personally, my position is not to propagandize the masses on a wholesale AVS, and the use of AVS for personal use and to prove to someone that needs it and you CAN - not see the need. And what is the Will of the authors of the site - can and will personally prove to You copies of documents, etc.
But the lyre like 100 here or sell But gizmo say - very exciting
Maaliskuu'll give You a hint, there is ya.ru when typing there "Lira-100" provides a link to the developers of this device.. with the indication patents and etc.. http://www.nmbt.web.ur.ru/Lira_1.html
The seers, see Yes ( in other words - do not be lazy !
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http://www.mindmachine.ru/audio/brain_massage.htm
by the way - the authors of the site.. there the link is not working on "ideas of Tomatis" ( there just painted a lot of important).
and additives ( see article) it is easy to be the next thing
"Light and sound brain stimulation as a method approved by the MoH (PR. no.4 from 26.11.97 US health Ministry). Light and sound machines are safe for most people, but some can cause problems. For example, we strongly recommend people suffering from various types of seizures, epilepsy or increased light sensitivity, cardiac arrhythmias or other cardiac disease and has a pacemaker systematically taking stimulants or tranquilizers, psychotropic drugs, and also alcohol and drugs, to use light and sound machines only under medical supervision."
in addition.
read http://www.mindmachine.ru/articles/problem_learning.htm
it indicated the institution where the research was conducted ( at least in training with the help of AVS). there is, and the theoretical calculations.
PS questions like Yours come up all the time, and this will not go away. I see that the forum almost everyone ( from old forum) trying to respond to the constant reviving of similar issues, but then at the end of the topics is still INQUIRING finds everything on the site ( with or without).
In addition there is a lot of information on the Internet, it is important to find. For
1) technology itself - has been approved by the Ministry of health of the Russian Federation ( i.e. guarantee of security of the technology is confirmed by Gosudarstvom)
2) more precise answers you can find here (forum, articles) ( still any of the old people sooner or later will answer and show that one SEES
)3) more detailed questions (number of acts research, copy etc) - this is a private matter for the QUESTIONER is allowed by the government, each time to prove that AVS are allowed thing - thank you
personally, my position is not to propagandize the masses on a wholesale AVS, and the use of AVS for personal use and to prove to someone that needs it and you CAN - not see the need. And what is the Will of the authors of the site - can and will personally prove to You copies of documents, etc. But the lyre like 100 here or sell
But gizmo say - very exciting Maaliskuu'll give You a hint, there is ya.ru when typing there "Lira-100" provides a link to the developers of this device.. with the indication patents and etc.. http://www.nmbt.web.ur.ru/Lira_1.html
The seers, see Yes
( in other words - do not be lazy ! )<Eugene Kosh
Yeah,thank you,reference back up as soon as the developer will appear.But prior to Tomatis here you can see there the most full information on a method: http://www.mindmachine.ru/articles/tomatis.htm
http://www.yugzone.ru/articles/zvuk-1.htm
Yeah,thank you,reference back up as soon as the developer will appear.But prior to Tomatis here you can see there the most full information on a method: http://www.mindmachine.ru/articles/tomatis.htm
http://www.yugzone.ru/articles/zvuk-1.htm
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Andrei Patrushev, a former police officer. People who for many years has served in militia of the unique mind. They clearly formulate their thoughts and opinions .In the biography of Andrei Patrushev which I founded on the Internet a lot of common phrases,there is little evidence by which to assign the veracity of some of the moments in the biography. It would be nice if Andrei Patrushev gave more detailed information about themselves and their research experiences.