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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Fri Oct 16, 2009 17:21

Артемчик wrote:
Андрей Патрушев wrote:Memory recorded in the body on the holographic principle.
You mean the image pictures?
I mean all the senses.

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Post by Андреич » Sat Oct 17, 2009 23:35

Андрей Патрушев wrote:In my opinion optimally to acquire Innerpulse. The recommendation is simple - three weeks of alpha training for start (all sessions "r") then "C", "D", "E" for the same.
Bought aggregatio.
Three weeks alpha-training, all sessions of "r" - what does that mean?
Only 7 programs R
I understand that you mean "today" programme r1, "tomorrow" program r2, "the day after tomorrow" program r3 in 7 days program r7 ?
Eight days later, the program r1 and so on?
A total of 21 days three approaches to each program?

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Sun Oct 18, 2009 13:41

Андреич wrote:
Андрей Патрушев wrote:In my opinion optimally to acquire Innerpulse. The recommendation is simple - three weeks of alpha training for start (all sessions "r") then "C", "D", "E" for the same.
Bought aggregatio.
Three weeks alpha-training, all sessions of "r" - what does that mean?
Only 7 programs R
I understand that you mean "today" programme r1, "tomorrow" program r2, "the day after tomorrow" program r3 in 7 days program r7 ?
Eight days later, the program r1 and so on?
A total of 21 days three approaches to each program?
Yes, something like that, although you can stay on the favorite sessions for a couple of days. In addition, you can download my session http://www.mindmachine.ru/sessions.htm

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Post by Хинтертукс » Mon Oct 19, 2009 22:13

Hello, I bought a machine Guide.
Listen.
In parallel there is a few questions and decided to casual (+ to share feelings).

The machine I have the lume (what to say - afraid that nonsense, I decided to save), so I listen to a separate conduit, separate the machine at least once a day. While only four of the session.
To begin with - feeling.
From the machine - it's simple, have an r-session. They are quite short there, so I listen to several at once, so that altogether the result was 20-25 minutes.
From the machine - the feeling is simple - light, sound. Like - nothing special though - interesting and want to continue.

But the Conductor...

Amazing. Frankly, until the last moment was in doubt. However. The first lesson caused great feeling.

So, I was engaged at the conductor throws me into this state spontaneously, and much magnifies it. Very interesting.

Installations in front of him is not particularly put - you need to read your recommended books - is that a few simple statements before the session. I don't know how they work as affirmations.

After the conductor - increase feelings of confidence, improved relaxation.
Ie - really works on my sajania shoulders, all of which can't relax.

What is particularly interesting for me - a purely physiological effect. Read, of course, not the whole forum, but it seems not seen this. I sweat a lot when listening.

Moreover, the first two times - sweated body of the sheet, just squeeze had :)
And the third head the hair is wet, headphones even all wet from sweat was.
Today was the fourth session and nothing, the sweat was gone.

And questions:
1)is There in Explorer binaural beats? And if there is - and it might be due to the fact that I can't hear them in the washing machine?

2)Actually - change sweating - this effect met? Mean anything?

3)Nothing that I listen to in the car several sessions?<

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Post by Алевтина » Wed Oct 21, 2009 20:45

Hello again, Andrew. For 14 days listening to the guide. Feeling different... starting from the negative (the sound of water not like, more like the sound of a fire for example, a male voice I prefer the "on-below", to my ears it is nicer). Noticed a strange feature: juvu I'm not in a vacuum, the words I hear everywhere and always (not voices, but people talk and the TV is not silent), BUT some words that attract special attention, they have to drive and people who speak them, especially the "from TV" began to speak with the same tone and with the same intonation as the voice on the disk. Of course not all words with dick, and IT is CERTAIN that the text almost by heart know. It scares me.
What is it?

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Post by Штиль » Wed Oct 21, 2009 23:50

Alevtina
And what of the people from the TV, and what words they say? :shock:

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:18

Хинтертукс wrote:And questions:
1)is There in Explorer binaural beats? And if there is - and it might be due to the fact that I can't hear them in the washing machine?
2)Actually - change sweating - this effect met? Mean anything?
3)Nothing that I listen to in the car several sessions?
1. Is. I do not know. :? And it is necessary? :)
2. http://www.mindmachine.ru/viewtopic.php?t=2181
3. Time of any session it is possible to increase (decrease) in twice (see instructions).

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:20

Алевтина wrote:Hello again, Andrew. For 14 days listening to the guide. Feeling different... starting from the negative (the sound of water not like, more like the sound of a fire for example, a male voice I prefer the "on-below", to my ears it is nicer). Noticed a strange feature: juvu I'm not in a vacuum, the words I hear everywhere and always (not voices, but people talk and the TV is not silent), BUT some words that attract special attention, they have to drive and people who speak them, especially the "from TV" began to speak with the same tone and with the same intonation as the voice on the disk. Of course not all words with dick, and IT is CERTAIN that the text almost by heart know. It scares me.
What is it?
What exactly are You afraid of??? :shock:
And the letters You did not try to pay attention to? 8) :?

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Post by Guest » Thu Oct 22, 2009 20:33

The letters no, but the sounds and the cracks in the asphalt...
Do not expect from You such a response....

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Post by Guest » Thu Oct 22, 2009 23:18

Штиль wrote:Alevtina
And what of the people from the TV, and what words they say? :shock:
It's easier than you think. Just the impression that the program on the disk recorded in the brain of some codes that are "turned on" under certain conditions, in this case, the key to these codes is a certain words.
And, in General, do you all sick... :roll:

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Post by Алевтина » Fri Oct 23, 2009 0:01

I'm a logical-sensory introvert, in order to "remove the stone from the soul" (I think that tov. Patrushev understand about what technique I'm talking about), I've had enough just imagine this stone, I need not only to see, but physically feel. I understand that this program affects my brain, I understand how there is the impact, BUT I don't see the ultimate logical goal of all of these "procedures". It's hard to trust someone if you don't know the whole truth. Naturally, no smysla to ask the author and count on the fact that he calmly all this talk, but in this case, the way to promote this program, "the masses" reminds "shampoo for all hair types" (if only to sell???). Very sorry, but from a Psychologist as You, I did not expect to receive this reply: And the letters You did not try to pay attention to? And very sorry that do not get a response this message.
Goodbye.

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Post by Dimas » Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:37

Alevtina
it's Hard to trust someone if you don't know the whole truth. Naturally, no smysla to ask the author and count on the fact that he calmly all this talk, but in this case, the way to promote this program, "the masses" reminds "shampoo for all hair types" (if only to sell???). Very sorry, but from a Psychologist as You, I did not expect to receive this reply: And the letters You did not try to pay attention to? And very sorry that do not get a response this message.
Such gross manipulation :lol: immediately felt logical-sensory introvert. 8) :lol:

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Post by Guest » Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:57

it seems to me that the disk conductor is self-hypnosis.

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Post by Dimas » Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:00

Anonymous wrote:it seems to me that the disk conductor is self-hypnosis.
You are wrong :)

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon Oct 26, 2009 15:40

Гость wrote:it's easier than you think.
But this vulgarity You came to mind... :?
Гость wrote:Just get the impression that the program on the disk recorded in the brain of some codes that are "turned on" under certain conditions, in this case, the key to these codes is a certain words.
Duck, I say, - that bukovki something more common :wink: so it is logical codes to activate bukovkami, not words (wait until someone will guess to say...) :roll:
Гость wrote:And, in General, do you all sick...
Yeah, no, I'm the only one sick :? and the rest are my hallucinations... :shock:

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon Oct 26, 2009 15:54

Алевтина wrote:I'm a logical-sensory introvert, in order to "remove the stone from the soul" (I think that tov. Patrushev understand about what technique I'm talking about), I've had enough just imagine this stone, I need not only to see, but physically feel.
How about "stone in the bosom"? :wink:
Алевтина wrote:BUT I don't see the ultimate logical goal of all of these "procedures".
For this we need at least to put it myself (see the instructions)... :?
Алевтина wrote:it's Hard to trust someone if you don't know the whole truth.
Yes, indeed... how then do You travel on public transport (I'm not talking about trains and planes), shopping in the store?...
Алевтина wrote:Naturally, no smysla to ask the author and count on the fact that he calmly all this talk
I agree about "quietly", especially if this has 74 pages dedicated to this topic.... :)
Алевтина wrote:Very sorry, but from a Psychologist as You, I did not expect to receive this reply: And the letters You did not try to pay attention to?
Cm. above.
Алевтина wrote:And very sorry that do not get a response this message.
Goodbye.
"Well, no - it's dead as dead"... :o

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Post by Guest » Tue Oct 27, 2009 16:21

Hello. I started to listen to the Conductor 3 weeks ago.The goal set at once. About 7 listening to the surfaced of a wild fear that was stalking me and now constantly. The conductor stopped listening because I am afraid that is not the purpose will be fulfilled, and fear (while listening only about fear and I think a goal not even POPs up in my head). All of this brought me to a state of obsession. Was there someone like that? How to make sure that goal is fulfilled, but not pop-UPS, fears? What can advise in such cases (I am suffering now uzhastno already depressed)? I would be grateful for answers. I hope that Andrei Patrushev also will answer questions?

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Post by Dimas » Tue Oct 27, 2009 16:23

Anonymous wrote:Hello. I started to listen to the Conductor 3 weeks ago.The goal set at once. About 7 listening to the surfaced of a wild fear that was stalking me and now constantly. The conductor stopped listening because I am afraid that is not the purpose will be fulfilled, and fear (while listening only about fear and I think a goal not even POPs up in my head). All of this brought me to a state of obsession. Was there someone like that? How to make sure that goal is fulfilled, but not pop-UPS, fears? What can advise in such cases (I am suffering now uzhastno already depressed)? I would be grateful for answers. I hope that Andrei Patrushev also will answer questions?
Well, why did You quit listening? Set a goal, the fear will pass soon...

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Post by Идущая вперед » Tue Oct 27, 2009 18:27

the purpose you can not put... with a guide to continue - not to leave in any case... your connection between the consciousness and subconsciousness is growing... on a thin thread grows thick rope... and what exactly are you afraid of??? usually our fears are transferred to negative thoughts which then begin to be implemented.... therefore, negative change to positive.... instead of depression, joy and happiness
read a book that has fears - everything is simple
http://www.koob.ru/books/way/power_of_now.zip
will work through fear - rise to a new stage of development :aa :aa :aa :aa

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Post by Артемчик » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:45

Dear friends! And Mr. Patrushev!

Finish the second course of "Conductor" - the changes are very significant.
Who knows what inner dialogue, please advise how to formulate the goal that would neutralize it.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:41

Артемчик wrote:Dear friends! And Mr. Patrushev!

Finish the second course of "Conductor" - the changes are very significant.
Who knows what inner dialogue, please advise how to formulate the goal that would neutralize it.
Internal dialogue is a very valuable acquisition. It is Your ability to think, to plan, to create... the Problem usually is that any "thing" is only useful at a certain time and in a certain place. For example, if you love the inner dialogue can steal from You and partner a fair share of fun, etc. etc. As one of the founders of NLP-R. Bandler: "If you really try you can get rid of the internal dialogue and stay in deep solitude..." :?
So, do not bother, and using the same internal dialogue (VD) identify those areas of life where VD inappropriate, and just try to focus there on the relevant experience... 8) :)
Good luck!

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:44

Anonymous wrote:Hello. I started to listen to the Conductor 3 weeks ago.The goal set at once. About 7 listening to the surfaced of a wild fear that was stalking me and now constantly. The conductor stopped listening because I am afraid that is not the purpose will be fulfilled, and fear (while listening only about fear and I think a goal not even POPs up in my head). All of this brought me to a state of obsession. Was there someone like that? How to make sure that goal is fulfilled, but not pop-UPS, fears? What can advise in such cases (I am suffering now uzhastno already depressed)? I would be grateful for answers. I hope that Andrei Patrushev also will answer questions?
Hello.
Please read carefully this topic: http://www.mindmachine.ru/viewtopic.php?t=2181
Just think about something nice. Where it POPs up something unpleasant, then quietly transfer their thoughts and images of something pleasant, whatever it was...

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Post by Guest » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:19

Andrei Patrushev wrote:

Please read carefully this topic: http://www.mindmachine.ru/viewtopic.php?t=2181

Just think about something nice. Where it POPs up something unpleasant, then quietly transfer their thoughts and images of something pleasant, whatever it was.

The topic I have read. Andrew you wrote: "Any goal marks exactly."The next question is, can the pop-up phobia, a variety of images (negative) to kill the target. Maybe for safety target setting it is necessary to use a Rainbow?
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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:27

Гость wrote:the Topic I have read. Andrew you wrote: "Any goal marks exactly."The next question is, can the pop-up phobia, a variety of images (negative) to kill the target. Maybe for safety target setting it is necessary to use a Rainbow?
Rainbow, in my opinion, is really a powerful tool of self-development...
Just remember - anything with focus, charged with energy.
Apparently, You've learned to focus on the negative and not the positive. :? Pareuchaetes! - Stalk yourself :) and as soon as you notice that they began to think about something bad, just transfer thoughts and images into something good. Thus, You will teach your brain a very useful skill and will begin to do it automatically. Maybe in the beginning will have to work hard but it's worth it... :D

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Post by Артемчик » Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:48

Андрей Патрушев wrote:Internal dialogue is a very valuable acquisition. It is Your ability to think, to plan, to create... the Problem usually is that any "thing" is only useful at a certain time and in a certain place. For example, if you love the inner dialogue can steal from You and partner a fair share of fun, etc. etc. As one of the founders of NLP-R. Bandler: "If you really try you can get rid of the internal dialogue and stay in deep solitude..."
Thanks for the advice, I actually agree with You, but there is one point. The thought process that is verbalized in the head flows ten times slower than not voiced. Essentially acting like a "brake". I will try to follow Your recommendations.

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