About the players, soundcards and other Goodies...

Развивающийся · Post by **Развивающийся** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:16

I, too, bought the discs, there was a question on what to listen to? The house is a laptop. But after reading on the forum opinion about listening to CDs on computers, I realized that it is not grateful. Here and bought a Sony D-NE730 for 2600 rubles, Malaysian production. Simple headphones. I do not compare with anything, so, I'm happy.
By the way, very much wanted to buy from the line Panasonic, but all were in vain. At online stores, where were they when ordering said that players no...with the exception of, for example, Vitek and other garbage, but you know....throw money on it........
So, I kept a count of the number of stores where I called about Panasonic 42 th, I gave up and bought in the online store latest Sony.
Mirich, due to the fact that almost all decent manufacturers remove CD players from its line, to advise a specific model does not make sense, as it is unlikely to be in the store. Very well said, someone on the forum that it is better to take disks and go to the store that is on the counter.

Мирыч · Post by **Мирыч** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 12:53

Understand thank you.
Because I do not understand all this technology, just since it has never faced.
And what should be the settings of the player.
I'm sorry for being so inquisitive, just really I do not hack

Шум · Post by **Шум** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 22:42

I took the Sony D-NE 730 (if you can find, take Sony D-NE 830, but they were already taken out of production, so as lucky).
The sound quality is very good. FM is missing, but I suspect you are taking it not for this.

Can write, what not to take - Panasonic made in China, because they will live long.

IRiver sound very good, but short ... all of it.

Шум · Post by **Шум** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 22:45

If you want to know a lot about iPods, then you here - http://www.player.ru/talk/.

Мирыч · Post by **Мирыч** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 1:07

Not just I want the player only drives Andrew.
Thank you to Everyone.
Go razbiratsya.

All new heights in the knowledge of themselves!!!!
I went on to learn.

Оранжевое Сон-Це · Post by **Оранжевое Сон-Це** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 14:07

What about the players that you can relatively easily get at the present time, the best is the Sony D-NE 830. In the CMC you can get here: http://www.mirinfo.ru/cat/goods.aspx?gd_id=79539 (Malaysian). The ratio quality/price better just do not to find.

Джедай · Post by **Джедай** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 16:29

Worth to mention about the Rockbox project:

http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockbox

- alternative firmware for a large number of players.
Distinctive feature - support most lossless compression formats: WAV, FLAC, Wavpack, Monkey's audio, etc.

The acquisition compatible with the firmware of the player is a good alternative to buying the outdated CD player-MP3.

About listening copies of Audio CD on your computer.
It is clear that to keep a copy of should not in MP3 or OGG, and using any lossless codec - see above.
For reading CDs is better to use a properly configured EAC - when you first start the program you need to specify what accuracy is critical reading.

If you are using a sound card from Creative, it should be borne in mind that it is always an internal resampling (re-sampling) from 44100 to 48000 Hz, and with not the best algorithm.
The result of this retailinga significantly iscariots high frequency (for example, - AudioStrobe). Somewhere in the Internet was given two files with a high sound of the same frequency - only one file at 44100, the other in 48000 (you can make this file yourself). The difference when listening - are huge.

Also, on some models, the front of the DAC - worse than the rear. You can recommend:

1) to use an alternative driver http://kxproject.com/ - better algorithms, exchange the front and rear
2) player Foobar2000 http://www.foobar2000.org/
3) enable DSP for foobar - resampler - 48000, ultra mode
- high-quality resampling algorithm
4) the output of the sound through Kernel Streaming
- bypass post-processor sound Windows

Most built in sound cards behave the same way as cards from Creative, so apply the recommendations 2-4.
But, it is best to use a sound card, able to output 44100 without resampling...

About the compression in MP3 with the same frequency range and AudioStrobe - this can be done using the following command-line options Lame in EAC:

-b 320 --cbr-m s --noath --notemp --noreplaygain -k-q 0 % s %d

-b 320 --cbr use constant bitrate of 320 kbit/s
-m s - stereo mode (not Joint)
--noath - save the sounds for the absolute hearing threshold
--notemp - save the sounds regardless of the presence of a masking effect
--noreplaygain - ban analysis of the volume level
-k - to disable all filters (for high. the frequency, at low. frequency)
-q 0 is the highest quality algorithms

Comparison of the spectrum of the original in WAV and MP3 spectrum obtained shows significantly less distortion compared to the compressed files using the Lame settings by default.

High-frequency components is stored, AudioStrobe is working fine.<

Ринат · Post by **Ринат** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 20:07

Today I received the discs

The question arose on what to listen to.
CD-MP3 player I have, and not yet in sight

The computer has a Creative sound card, but the previous post made me doubt: is it worth the listen?
On the CD-ROM drive has a headphone Jack, the Play/Next and volume control. Maybe better to listen to it directly?
If Yes then can I use it at all apart from the computer, making Autonomous power supply

Джедай · Post by **Джедай** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 17:06

Rinat

CD-ROM is unlikely to give better sound than the sound card.

Yes, do not bother you so - the previous post was for the purists and audiophiles.
In practice, few will be able on hearing the oversampling 48000 notice.

If you want to join the purists - install kxproject and foobar,
if audiophiles buy Creative X-Fi (not the "X-Fi" Audio) - it is possible to listen without any resampling.

And headphones are necessary in this case to be no worse than the Sennheiser HD 280, HD 650 and better - without compromise - so they you any ultra-high frequency hear

Otherwise, why worry about such errors, which would still normally have nothing to play.

And if you are not hunting to be recorded anywhere - listen on the computer as usual - this is more than enough

Ринат · Post by **Ринат** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 19:06

Jedi

Thanks for the reply

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:34

Jedi
And what good headphones?How much?Sennheiser HD 650 what is the threshold of low frequencies?After all, if we listen not with the computer,and with music. centre,they ALL will play,am I right?

Джедай · Post by **Джедай** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 16:25

Dimas

It is a top hi-end model of the most famous companies specialized in headphones.

You can read here:
http://www.sennheiseraudio.com/ru/icm.n ... -end_09969

here:
http://www.ixbt.com/proaudio/sennheiser-hd-650.shtml

The price is about 12 Tr

Given their price, it can be assumed that they will reproduce even more than the.
For normal music. center these headphones overkill. Enough for the HD 280.

АВИ · Post by **АВИ** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 16:26

A Jedi, and as the output of a sound through Kernel Streaming. Something I have not found such option in foobar. Where this is done?

Джедай · Post by **Джедай** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 19:25

Standard player does not contain such option.
Need to download the Kernel Streaming from here:
http://foobar2000.com/components/index.html
The plugin is extracted to the components folder, then in the player settings is necessary as the Output Device to choose what you want.

The player has a good Russian site http://www.foobar2000.ru/

Влад · Post by **Влад** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 0:22

Джедай wrote: It is a top hi-end model of the most famous companies specialized in headphones.
http://www.ixbt.com/proaudio/sennheiser-hd-650.shtml

Hmm. The review of these ears is already 3 and a half years, and the firm during this time has not released anything better.

АВИ · Post by **АВИ** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:13

Thanks, Jedi, I figured with Kernel Streaming. Do your links I found a lot of interesting plugins for all sorts of foobar. Tried the Bauer stereophonic-to-binaural DSP on conventional records - like. Much easier to listen to. Before some voiceless I felt when listening to headphones in the soup and get tired with time, and then the head. As you now believe the plug-ins like the Bauer stereophonic-to-binaural DSP (or 4Front Headphones, etc.) will distort the binaural records or these records is already the de facto ground under headphones?

Джедай · Post by **Джедай** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 18:22

АВИ wrote:As you now believe the plug-ins like the Bauer stereophonic-to-binaural DSP (or 4Front Headphones, etc.) will distort the binaural records or these records is already the de facto ground under headphones?

Yes, similar plugins will introduce unnecessary distortion that predpolagaetsya to listen without extra processing.

Ром · Post by **Ром** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 19:43

2 Jedi

Do I understand correctly that you can buy a player that supports FLAC (COWON D2, for example), and to quietly listen audiostrobe without distortion? And like from the disc in FLAC to overtake?

Чук · Post by **Чук** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 13:40

Looking for CDплеер shopping, interesting picture, why is all that I examined does not see the drives that I set(Healing, Conductor) the only simple Phillips started to lose, but there is no effect of audiostrobe, glasses don't work, plays format MP-3 and WMA-CD,
A question for the experienced, in the above formats, the effect of listening of disks is saved or not. And then sent me the discs as I understand it with overwrite protection, even on a computer will not survive, how can flash players to pump? I ask because in the gland particularly not hack, as in programs...

All happy New year!!!

Ром · Post by **Ром** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 14:53

After. Took my son's iPod. Climbed into the companion itunes and the Apple lossless format. Has anyone tried this format to overtake? Really lossless?

Михаил 2 · Post by **Михаил 2** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 16:20

Got myself a Panasonic RD-EX50 with a simple educom (not MP3). The Lord experts, suit drives Patrushev ?

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 22:54

Михаил 2 wrote:got myself a Panasonic RD-EX50 with a simple educom (not MP3). The Lord experts, suit drives Patrushev ?

Must...

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 13:07

Михаил 2 wrote:got myself a Panasonic RD-EX50 with a simple educom (not MP3). The Lord experts, suit drives Patrushev ?

Yes,perfect!

Николай Барбицкий · Post by **Николай Барбицкий** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 20:47

I did not understand dear read read eyes too sick-day killed

Yesterday the disks came I think as sluhay SD to take accurate will not-poor we are... With a computer you can listen to CDA discs?I audiostrobe nafik need no car...That is good will by listening with a computer?And sohranyayutsya whether binaural beats when converting from CDA to WAV?I recode them-the quality is kind of the same thing-laughter or cries not heard

Not lost the effectiveness?

Николай Барбицкий · Post by **Николай Барбицкий** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 20:50

Well, that is on your PDA you can listen to then without thinking that the gift chase