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Post by Guest » Tue Aug 12, 2008 0:13

Eugene Kosh About wanting to establish a relationship is not the desire which wished and it came true.A good relationship can't just from the fact that you have dirtied and true .They need it to build .To review something in itself ...And not-want, and you get a good relationship. It is rather to ensure that you are at this stage of the journey something understood thought about it and you are normal.

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Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Tue Aug 12, 2008 0:16

That was my post above

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Post by Евгений Кош » Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:26

Anonymous wrote:Eugene,and then probably we have different points of view. The fact that my desires are fulfilled only then, mostly when I just think about it (sometimes even without specific settings)and everything just flashed a thought, and all without much effort and acutely burning desire.
Then you simply must be a miracle worker :)

In detail read the thread about the correctness of goal setting.
my personal opinion ( based on your reasoning) you have not fully delved into the concept of desires and goals.. a little confused with their planning.

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Post by Евгений Кош » Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:44

Anonymous wrote:Eugene Kosh About wanting to establish a relationship is not the desire which wished and it came true.A good relationship can't just from the fact that you have dirtied and true .They need it to build .To review something in itself ...And not-want, and you get a good relationship. It is rather to ensure that you are at this stage of the journey something understood thought about it and you are normal.
After some time of development of self, sooner or later :) people are certainly starting to see the roots of the roots :)
He begins to realize that the desire is a complex structure:- strength mental, physical, natural, etc.
On your post I have nothing to say, because You "desire" it's just slaboosnovnymi thought and nothing more.
but in my mind "desire" is : thoughts, energy, brought to the level of physiology (every cell in the body), thinking level, the level of change in behavior and values, level of interaction with the outside world which begin to change in the desired direction.. here it is - "desire" . While you do not understand, I will be hard to explain something on this topic :) BUT the basic concept of "desire" I gave you. (and on a forum such definitions for many).
For this, You get that simply "wanting" is one thing.. :) for you it stays at the level of weak obosnovannosti..
and I have to want it All:) because if I want to then change "roots roots" for the execution of my desire ( physiology, mindset, values, behaviors,\okruschayuschih relationship with the world) - that is the power of desire materializes :) and building relationships has been going since the new(more efficient) values, new behavior, etc..
And you - you will build within the former boundaries of behavior, values and etc.. and if you were Neustraivaet one way or the other.. with great probability you will build on.. until you start to rebuild itself from the level of desire (see above).<

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Post by Евгений Кош » Tue Aug 12, 2008 15:59

Гость wrote:to Reconsider something in itself
Гость wrote:It's more of what you want at this stage of the journey something understood thought about it and you are normal.
It is those roots that change. A change that can only be wished.. ie - expressing their desire with its subsequent materialization..(even easier to say you will change only wanting this consciously or not consciously)
and here is the secret what we are talking connection with the subconscious with the superconscious mind that realizing our desires (when we were able to convey to them) realize (materialize). is co - creation. on this and say that there is no need (no need) God ( the subconscious) to specify how to do it. Just tell me what you want :) wish with all his heart.. every cell of your body, thoughts :) and change is going to happen in a wonderful way. for the ways of the Lord ( subconscious) inscrutable :) (so to speak).

for fun you can read the works of meneghetti ( has a very extensive research and clinical practice).. he very lucidly explains how Unconscious desires are embodied and with what great power it's all happening (illness, behaviour etc):)

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Post by эндрю » Tue Aug 12, 2008 18:23

here I would like to be a conductor,and how you think I can? and it's hard and after 9th class you can?

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Post by Лисичка75 » Tue Aug 12, 2008 20:04

Help, please. Please advise. I want to get rid of emotional depending on the ex-husband. Constantly living in the past and the present. It seems that nothing good will not.He constantly stands in front of my eyes. I think that never meeting anyone else and will not marry or have kids. HOW to change this situation. in what sees to submit a goal? Does it make sense to work with the "Conductor"? In General, how to be happy and begin to live finally? As prailno to ask to your subconscious to make it all happen? To meet your soul mate, to bear and raise children, to have good-vysokooplachivaemoi work in order to live in abundance, to be healthy etc. And a lot of energy constantly flows in the past. I'm constantly in it. I can't pull myself out of it. How to release energy from the past to fully live in the present. Yes, people walk past me like I'm not. Men don't pay attention to me. I'm empty. As filled with vitality. How to Shine again? In advance very grateful to You for the answer. Sincerely, Nastya

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Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Wed Aug 13, 2008 0:57

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Евгений Кош wrote: you haven't fully grasped the concept of desires and goals.. a little confused with their planning.
So I wrote above that the plan I have is just not coming out. There is a desire ,the plan of its implementation ,a continual flow of thoughts( as they have the energy), this energy is directed towards desires and needs, respectively the materialization of it.Although there are many intermediate stages to fully materialize. But the complicated thing is what is this energy of desire as soon as you want something(even the smallest) you are given the power (energy) to accomplish it.The chain is built itself as where and when(the Lord just decides) you rightly said .But the more you mentally feed it the more power you are given his decision(you talked about this?) But the more thoughts(jelanii-purpose) the more Energy Power. You overfilled it and it grabs you (you are a prisoner of their desires). By the way Castaneda also writes about it.There is a similar line with Gurdjieff. from Osho, and many other Respected .Your physiology is boiling it.tickles the nerves as you think .And longer I think the more any additional thoughts sometimes doubt, sometimes changes in the parameters of this desire is the goal.Because the more you think the more precise and clearer beginning to realize what you want and then just happen clarifications and changes previously planned. That send you following this thought-the purpose of adjustments, and there has already begun restructuring the previous installations replace the old with the new.All this is mixed and prevents materialize to materialise and the longer it is not materialized there's doubt.And aphids corrosive power of desire-the goal. And since you are a man turns on logic . And this is another obstacle this is for the analysis. And it's even worse.Because you can't just think about wanting and "not lay a straw" additional safety thoughts. It takes the Energy Desires of the Target. But if you thought presented the goal,sent the energy of implementation and without deserialising yay I did it how you do it in afirmatie "I already have." You will have as a source of energy. And I wrote you just on the desires of my purpose and ways to fulfill these desires of the Lord. AV you are contesting. Your right. And why did you decide that I'm at the level of the stools ,slaboionizovannoi on this topic. The familiar words of men .Where we women. You're only trying again from my experience taking the to teach someone how to achieve desires goals. But it is your method Not mine. You're reading Montaggi taking it as a benchmark for the implementation of the wishes of his methods and now offer me maybe he is closer to you on your methods-similar tobish. And there he also speaks about the laws(laws) applicable to each specific goal .Whether the thought ,the desire, dyeistviya all have their own way of implementation they are different or is it Just that you don't know or want to know. And to read different authors with different techniques for the implementation of desires it can be purely for comparison or to find the optimum more acceptable option .But again, it's their acceptance,their experience.Actually techniques a lot.The easiest child to wear a bracelet on the arm making a wish.100% result if a clear goal. Children have it better than adults.And the rest ? Too many adults think superfluous . Children just want and believe to be true and sbyvaetsja. Remember the childhood after all, was it? (in the Bible about children also said although you may interpret it in his own way) But because impartially and without any emiliani of demiliani .I just want to.And all their power of thought is materialization.And get what you want happy it is a positive energy that is recorded in memory and you receive the following desire and joy again.Remember how in the childhood was happy. Positive and always want to come back again and again. But to the tortured endured a tortured interpretation of the thoughts you do not want. Vystradannoe the desire for well-planned. I'm tired of arguing who is right of left.<
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Post by Евгений Кош » Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:12

There is a variant of the inconsistency, nekorrektno ( from my side) in our conversation.
In terms of - what I called "desire" - more accurately should be called INTENTION.
ЛИЛИЯ-Р wrote:I wrote you just on the desires of my purpose and ways to fulfill these desires of the Lord. AV you are contesting.
?
ЛИЛИЯ-Р wrote:you're Only trying again from my experience taking the to teach someone how to achieve desires goals.
Everyone to learn for themselves :)
I will remind You that this is a forum, there is a question - give the answer. If you perceive the answers as training - your mistake :)
The answers given to the question, but to accept it for themselves or not - it is independent and in this matter I can't argue ( and not want). well written ( not to persuade).
The rules of the forum determine - each person gives a question\answer. I do not understand for what purpose you get in the script "I undertook to teach."
At the moment my goal is to make it clear to forum users that a certain part of what you write is very far from the more straightforward path of development.
In addition meneghetti writes about different things and not about what you're trying to say here about it :) but this is your own business ( talking about it is not read).



Each is given according to his faith :)
ЛИЛИЯ-Р wrote:Here, and sent you following this thought-the purpose of adjustments, and there has already begun restructuring the previous installations replace the old with the new.All this is mixed and prevents materialize to materialise and the longer it is not materialized there's doubt
ЛИЛИЯ-Р wrote:BUT if you thought presented the goal,sent the energy of implementation and without deserialising yay I did it how you do it in afirmatie "I already have"
ЛИЛИЯ-Р wrote:AND why did you decide that I'm on the level of the stools ,slaboionizovannoi on this topic. The familiar words of men .Where we women.
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:<

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Post by Guest » Wed Aug 13, 2008 13:07

It is not clear how to use the guide.
I first set the goal, write yourself somewhere that I don't need. Did all that. Now listen to the disk. While listening I pay attention to the voice, the rest I don't care. On purpose I do not remember..

Right?

Or is it when listening to the disc on the goal you need to think about?

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Post by Dimas » Wed Aug 13, 2008 13:13

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Can do about anything not to think,can even sleep while listening.The conductor in any case will work.

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Post by Бэтмэн » Wed Aug 13, 2008 14:46

Dimas wrote:Guest
Can do about anything not to think,can even sleep while listening.The conductor in any case will work.
Weird... how's that? :lol:

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Post by Dimas » Wed Aug 13, 2008 14:49

Batman
But so :lol: work with the subconscious is not while listening,but in sleep,during a NIGHT's sleep when you have long removed the muffs and went pochevat before the day coming. 8)

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Post by Guest » Wed Aug 13, 2008 17:21

But so Laughing work with the subconscious is not while listening,but in sleep,during a NIGHT's sleep when you have long removed the muffs and went pochevat before the day coming. Cool
From this we can conclude that with a guide it is better to connect before going to sleep? Or not?

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Wed Aug 13, 2008 17:46

эндрю wrote:here I would like to be a conductor,and how you think I can? and it's hard and after 9th class you can?
What do you - Ivan Susanin laurels of rest do not give? :lol:
But he came to a bad end... :?
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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Wed Aug 13, 2008 17:49

Anonymous wrote:
But so Laughing work with the subconscious is not while listening,but in sleep,during a NIGHT's sleep when you have long removed the muffs and went pochevat before the day coming. Cool
From this we can conclude that with a guide it is better to connect before going to sleep? Or not?
In my opinion, Yes.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Wed Aug 13, 2008 18:15

Anonymous wrote:Put the Prayer of invocation of the Holy spirit for the fulfillment of desires.

Turns any desire that is not associated with causing harm to another person. Rules: read the prayer 3 times aloud clearly ( for those who have poor articulation - try to clearly pronounce the words). After wish to place that prayer in a public place with explanations ( i.e. with all that is written in this paragraph).
So, since my jelanie turned with gratitude to the Holy Spirit Prayer posted on this website:

THE PRAYER OF INVOCATION OF THE HOLY SPIRIT:
“Holy Spirit, resolve all problems, shedding light on all the roads, that I could come to his goal. You, who give me the Divine gift of forgiveness and forgetfulness of all evil, perpetrated against me, all the storms of life staying with me. In this brief prayer, I want to thank You for everything and once again to prove that I have never and will never break up with You, no matter what the illusory nature of matter. I want to be with You in Your eternal glory. Thank You for all Your blessings to me and my neighbors.“

Please so-and-so....
Phonosematic characteristics of the text of the prayer: "the Text is bright, joyful. Orientation on soft coding. Cadence average. In the Golden section is a thanksgiving to the Holy spirit. The color of the text blue with a little purple and less red."
Conclusion - for phonosematic characteristics of the prayer corresponds to the Orthodox prayers. :) :) :)

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Post by Гость » Wed Aug 13, 2008 18:29

Андрей Патрушев wrote: Conclusion - on phonosematic characteristics of the prayer corresponds to the Orthodox prayers. :) :) :)
What is it like?
Please explain :)

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Wed Aug 13, 2008 18:30

Гость wrote:
Андрей Патрушев wrote: Conclusion - on phonosematic characteristics of the prayer corresponds to the Orthodox prayers. :) :) :)
What is it like?
Please explain :)
Read Cherepanovo. :?

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Post by А7 » Wed Aug 13, 2008 19:04

Now I want to collect all in a heap that about the Explorer, what about self-hypnosis.

For example, there is a problem when talking with people, I sometimes speak softly, so they sometimes I have to ask again.
Came to the conclusion that it was from hesitation or indecision.

Decided to make this installation "I have confidence in conversation". Then I think we need to dig: if the sub-mesh understands the word literally, a fragment of the phrase "have confidence" can take on a slightly different meaning..

Then just put "I am confident when speaking" ... Again I think because it can be ambiguous because I can be sure for various reasons, for example, can be sure of the meaning of these words, but this is the volume I think is still not intersect, it is possible to speak quietly, but know what you say is true and nothing is confusing, and it can also be one of the signs of confidence.

Then came the phrase "I feel confident when speaking". In this case, I elaborated on the meaning of the word "confidence", it now refers to the senses. Thought this must stop, then decided to think again :) .. if, nevertheless, the key in this problem the volume that you need to speak louder, increase the volume, then "feelings" here by, we can feel joy, sadness, boredom, but not the volume)) (although if you shout, then a certain tension in the chest you can feel), but I don't have to yell.

And came to the sentence "I speak confidently when talking"...
I can say, it is necessary to dig even further or is it correct setting?

Now if I want the resulting installation to work with the conductor, I should think about that before the session + to VisualRoute in different ways the meaning of the phrase?

Or as he wrote Dimas nothing at all to think not and he decides to let the conductor. On that occasion I have concerns, after all if the conductor so wonderful works, then it works on what we have inside that we have deposited in the memory: the stress, the problems, if they are, then we think about them, and they respectively sit tight in memory. And here is the thing that is really stopping, and the other unpleasant, besides, I'm not "shipped" it to the extent as if there was stress or something like that...

Words written a lot, and I guess I'm confused.. can I write on the list, clearly?
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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Wed Aug 13, 2008 19:27

А7 wrote:Now I want to collect all in a heap that about the Explorer, what about self-hypnosis.

For example, there is a problem when talking with people, I sometimes speak softly, so they sometimes I have to ask again.
Came to the conclusion that it was from hesitation or indecision.

Decided to make this installation "I have confidence in conversation". Then I think we need to dig: if the sub-mesh understands the word literally, a fragment of the phrase "have confidence" can take on a slightly different meaning..

Then just put "I am confident when speaking" ... Again I think because it can be ambiguous because I can be sure for various reasons, for example, can be sure of the meaning of these words, but this is the volume I think is still not intersect, it is possible to speak quietly, but know what you say is true and nothing is confusing, and it can also be one of the signs of confidence.

Then came the phrase "I feel confident when speaking". In this case, I elaborated on the meaning of the word "confidence", it now refers to the senses. Thought this must stop, then decided to think again :) .. if, nevertheless, the key in this problem the volume that you need to speak louder, increase the volume, then "feelings" here by, we can feel joy, sadness, boredom, but not the volume)) (although if you shout, then a certain tension in the chest you can feel), but I don't have to yell.

And came to the sentence "I speak confidently when talking"...
I can say, it is necessary to dig even further or is it correct setting?

Now if I want the resulting installation to work with the conductor, I should think about that before the session + to VisualRoute in different ways the meaning of the phrase?

Or as he wrote Dimas nothing at all to think not and he decides to let the conductor. On that occasion I have concerns, after all if the conductor so wonderful works, then it works on what we have inside that we have deposited in the memory: the stress, the problems, if they are, then we think about them, and they respectively sit tight in memory. And here is the thing that is really stopping, and the other unpleasant, besides, I'm not "shipped" it to the extent as if there was stress or something like that...

Words written a lot, and I guess I'm confused.. can I write on the list, clearly?
:)
I think it's much easier. A person is either confident or insecure. Often come across people absolutely convinced of their insecurities and unsure of his confidence... :roll:
Guide, not "amplifier" and "processor", it has a certain algorithm for the subconscious to switch the focus from "negative" (avoiding junk) to "positive" (achieve the desired). :?<

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Post by А7 » Wed Aug 13, 2008 19:58

the Man is either confident or insecure.
In broad terms, definitely Yes!
But here, and if you like the precedents... so based, for the most part I am confident to communicate with people: friends, acquaintances, just met on the street. And if I'm bugging you in the evening some or Gopnik is a serious conversation with "the boss" - there is confidence somewhere lost.
often come across people absolutely convinced of their insecurities and unsure of his confidence... :roll:
If confidence is "+"; and uncertainty is "-", then the product obtained "-" :roll: :lol:
the Conductor - not "amplifier" and "processor"
OK, I'll know :wink:
it has a certain algorithm for the subconscious to switch the focus from "negative" (avoiding junk) to "positive" (achieve the desired).
This tool to set the mood and confidence in business?

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Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Thu Aug 14, 2008 0:44

Dima how was your vacation on the seas? Have something to share?

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Post by Dimas » Thu Aug 14, 2008 15:50

ЛИЛИЯ-Р wrote:Dima, how was your vacation on the seas? Have something to share?
If this question to me,thank you very much,well rested,but I'd still another week stayed there :)
And share like also have really have this experience for themselves not digested yet.Found there a man (his dalneishego friend),who works as instruktorom on tourism in atom of the Crimean sanatoria.He told me one interesting story,they say in 2005 on mount AI-Nikola, was found a hole in the cave-burial of an ancient priestess tribe t-that lived on the territory of Crimea before the common era.The skeleton of the priestess dated 500 BC,came archeology,somehow got there,pulled the remains of some tiny primitive jugs and took the whole thing in an unknown direction.well,all left the cave without his mistress.Tourists there not lead,to the type of the place is not defiled,because the cave is far away from the Kurchatov paths and known routes.My friend promised to show me the hole and even didn't mind my desire to get there,but he was not there,they just couldn't get into the hole physically.In short, we went there with him, I only had my camera,of course the lamp I took (speleologi sucks :lol: ),no insurance,no cables, nothing but old robes,that gave me a guide that I like are not soiled resort attire-shorts and a t-shirt))))In General I go by some hose tied to a tree,barely got into this crack in the earth and...that there was a complete darkness,thick darkness,without a single dots of light.Not only that,I didn't expect is the fact that under his feet felt no ground in fact, and hung on one hands on this slangy,holding in his teeth the cord-taped from the camera-then I really got scared under my feet I far nothing.Nothing to do-go down the hands downwards,and,thank God,say on some sharp boulders,absolutely not similar to the cave floor (in my view).Around dark,I always press the camera down to cover the flash and prespinal red beam space-horror spectacle is frightening,but when I saw the cliffs on the left and right on very many meters down,I can not see the floor,then I had coolant prestavila place.In General nafotkal there are a lot of pictures,the pictures turned out good (good flash),stotal the place in the story (a ridge-bench in the rock) where lay the ashes of the priestess moved forward a little and suddenly I was seized with a horror and consternation.At this point I begin to hear the muffled call from outside my Guild so I get out and move is very difficult,strange,but fear gave way to a strange sense of peace and quiet,did not want to leave.I moved a little forward and felt the warm breeze on my face and then I got the idea immediately and run,barely vikramkarve to light,I saw covered in blood,the skin on my fingers peeled off,legs,knees,ankles also stripped,torn socks,in General viewtiful :lol: But she is all alone and NO THOUGHTS!later in the pictures we saw in the first photo, what a bright translucent spheres in a large lot beside me,then on a later photo of the same place, they were not.What is it I don't know.After this trip I could really take a long hard look at one point,in mind mind,a feeling of peace and quiet joy,it was easy to focus on any object,in the evening sitting on the pier,I therefore woke your Kundalini and caught a lot of pleasant sensations associated with the "salute" in my head and excitement in the lower part of the pelvis 8) :lol: The dreams which I dreamt after this campaign, are difficult to paraphrase,and do not want to do this,such dreams I have never seen.It was the highlight of my trip to the southern coast of the Crimea,was still in the Marble caves,but these feelings I have THERE not arisen.<

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Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Thu Aug 14, 2008 22:57

:shock: Daaaaaaaaaaaa. Adrenaline probably got an overdose. I then watched as can't remember what film or documentary transfer,people dug a pit type graves Lay in them .They had been covered with boards and buried for a short time . People then told me that there and time goes differently and feeling. All who are not afraid of the state as you have. Complete peace of mind. But not all told then what she saw or dreamed. But could see in his eyes that :wiz .You should so dare.Because the consequences can be different. Even light the Power place leave an imprint in the psyche. What possessed you to climb up there. Don't even know how to say brave or crazy(no offense please). And the pictures can be viewed. I think everyone wants the forum to know what you saw there.

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