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Re: SP2

Post by Шалтай Балтай » Tue May 10, 2016 23:43

Шалтай Балтай wrote:
Юпитер wrote: it's not clear where 240 ohms came from 24 meters twisted pair , is this correct?
there is written above the 12 Volt / 50 mA = 240 Ohm
There Error
here I sit peramera, hair on end :roll: no joke all this
50 mV is for gercovich beat
hundreds of Hz 250 mA at 10 V, thus, 10 In / 250 mA = 40 Ohms, it's certainly not a 240 Ohm, sorry
in addition, there is the "fuse" of 10 Ohms, the total resistance of the Mobius - 30 Ohm

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Re: SP2

Post by Шалтай Балтай » Thu May 12, 2016 10:20

In this regard, I looked on laboratory generator NCH. It gives any form, plus you can measure the current. Cool toy, but Linux has won :?

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Re: SP2

Post by Шалтай Балтай » Tue May 17, 2016 10:44

ordered the CE here Taku toy:
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HPG1 Generator functional (pocket)
need to be able to compare with something
in addition, the meander under siggen not quite correct, in his "one way" virtually double "the runout" is produced :?

Here already couple of months as I peripodial Cpscu. Familiar with the flow kind of a good thing, of course.
I running the thread th to come up with....

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Re: SP2

Post by Шалтай Балтай » Thu May 19, 2016 10:24

Юпитер wrote:
output impedance most of the generators are 50 ohms. but the scatter of the models
in the frequency range , step ,max. amplitude , output current, very large

for SP and Radionics which is more important ?
IMHO - Hertz
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Re: SP2

Post by Шалтай Балтай » Fri May 20, 2016 10:23

vmetal I have another Mobius:
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  • length: around 6 meters
  • F = 1mm
  • clock
on the weekend I'll try to test, let's see....

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Sat May 21, 2016 18:21

no, I try not to make the cut, even grinding

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Re: SP2

Post by Ланцелот » Sun May 22, 2016 22:24

Юпитер wrote:sine: 0 Hz to 25 MHz
Rectangular: from 0 Hz to 6 MHz
Triangular: from 0 Hz to 6 MHz
Ramp: 0 Hz to 6 MHz
And that the oscilloscope show?
Humptyaccidentally tried it, the signal is clear or with some defects?

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Re: SP2

Post by Шалтай Балтай » Mon May 23, 2016 10:02

Ланцелот wrote: Humptyaccidentally tried it, the signal is clear or with some defects?
about what kind of signal it?

oscilloscope yet
look at entot:
MEGEAN 15001, Pocket oscilloscope 1 MHz
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Re: SP2

Post by Шалтай Балтай » Mon May 23, 2016 10:07

Юпитер wrote: all tend to put a power resistor in front of the Mobius to protect the amplifiers
sound cards and so short-circuit coil ,
it takes more power and greatly reduces the efficiency of the Mobius in the usual physical sense.
that's why the thought appeared to take welcom generator to supply power in a wide range.
well.... 10 ω 30 may be removed :)
I too scratched turnip about the lab generator, but took pocket while
programmable Shingen under Linux taxis, of course.
the only thing I tend to pulse and not to the meander, it is necessary to try all
the final answer will only give "autopsy" of oscill the Besh
now, if the LF gene could be programming from a computer, because after all if and make sure the vent screw, and what to do with it? :roll:

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Re: SP2

Post by Шалтай Балтай » Mon May 23, 2016 10:53

Юпитер wrote:Humpty Baltay

just remove the resistor too dangerous , without calculations
che calculations, all calculations. Well I wrote, I got a laboratory power supply. See current consumption. Everything is under control, IMHO. 8)
Юпитер wrote: there are two extremes possible or Mobius will heat up like a regular soldering iron and burn or the amplifier will burn.
well at 2 W load Moebius not greecce in General, and the resistor is barely warm
Юпитер wrote: in normal pilko NCH output impedance typically in the range of 2-8 ohms. and then on the generator of 50 ohms. here's a little thought to that.
50 Ohm, from a lot of PTS. ie if you want for example 10 watts to do it 22 Volt it is necessary to pump... I don't know... the usual blocks to 18,
the output stage IMHO should be low impedance, what would it was easy to swing modu :wiz
Юпитер wrote: audiophiles in expensive technology for clear sound recommended the ratio of the impedances of the load and ucilka not less than 5/1 so the distortion was not.
here we have a little bit different sound , but the clean signal is probably also important. well, never mind the entire economy..
by the way, here is one interesting man, told what to do two Mobius on the crystal and using them as mineralki, the Besh "carrier" + "shift". He claims that it works
It's interesting, if so then you can go from meander and use the sine, this will increase the quality, but greatly complicate the diagram, we need 2 channels.
not easily all this :roll:

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Re: SP2

Post by МерКаБа » Mon May 23, 2016 11:25

Шалтай Балтай wrote: ..."modulation" crystal thought-form generally not a problem....

...the main problem LIKE (preferably on a mental level) to convey the thought-form of the operator on the modulating crystal device?
something I don't catch what's the problem :)

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Mon May 23, 2016 11:55

МерКаБа wrote:
Шалтай Балтай wrote: ..."modulation" crystal thought-form generally not a problem....

...the main problem LIKE (preferably on a mental level) to convey the thought-form of the operator on the modulating crystal device?
something I don't catch what's the problem :)
Cheh, tell me how, if you do not see the problem.
The question in mark, "LIKE (preferably on a mental level) to convey the thought-form of the operator on the modulating crystal device?"
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Re: SP2

Post by Шалтай Балтай » Mon May 23, 2016 11:58

Юпитер wrote:
you can certainly go the other way to take a good bass amp with a small imedance 2-4 ohms
but relatively inexpensive ucilka with a wider range 5-45000 Hertz I have not yet found
and hardly do they make them wider for the conventional techniques , the ear can't hear much
range they are writing for sinus.
we are on the drum, since the meander, though, 0.001 Hz - no problems
another thing is that "good, expensive" amps can (and even should like) the impulse filter, so I'm ready to take the (relatively cheap) modules, amplifiers bass, WITHOUT any filter

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Re: SP2

Post by Ланцелот » Mon May 23, 2016 22:20

Шалтай Балтай wrote:about what signal it?
Yes about anyone with this generator.
I have used emulators on the computer. Beautifully described, and the oscilloscope shows such distortions that the hair stand on end.
So wondering what the picture of these generators.

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Re: SP2

Post by МерКаБа » Tue May 24, 2016 0:55

Humpty Baltay but why so difficult? :shock: Included home player and went on business)
I think it is better to think about a problem "edible energy". That's the problem.
And SP strongly fonit around, then spray the energy that should be directed at the target. But there is no intelligent gadgets it seems not enough. Try to charge the crystal Cure and give the command to supply power TO the crystal, once the background disappears completely. And TO put yourself a program, can remotely.

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Re: SP2

Post by Шалтай Балтай » Tue May 24, 2016 10:01

МерКаБа wrote:Humpty Baltay but why so difficult? :shock: Included home player and went on business)
To each his own az
МерКаБа wrote: I think it is better to think about a problem "edible energy". That's the problem.
any subject
МерКаБа wrote: And SP strongly fonit around, then spray the energy that should be directed at the target. But there is no intelligent gadgets it seems not enough. Try to charge the crystal Cure and give the command to supply power TO the crystal, once the background disappears completely. And TO put yourself a program, can remotely.
prosenica please, these words we do not know and do not fakht what it is we NAT :oops:
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