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Ring. Testing (from in Passing)

Post by Шалтай Балтай » Sat Jul 09, 2016 16:43

The idea is that the test plan rings
taken from here: viewtopic.php?p=157336#p157336
мимоходом wrote:
it's great that you have a choice, use what YOU need. To each his own
The examples given is a placebo, just...


With regard to the measurement of parameters - this is just research and there are in which you for yourselves will understand what is happening, why it works, will make new discoveries possible, maybe you'll understand how to create a better device (assuming that the underlying work), be able to it is possible to choose other structures and so on...

In General, first the hypothesis is actually intuitive (there is already an important your own purity and the development of intuition). Examples of hypotheses:
- this twist is a quartz crystal amplifies specific frequency. If so - put experiments, it is found, further work with variants of the resonators. They can be all sorts - not just twisting in the ring, but three-dimensional - in ball, torus, cylinder, some historical artifacts and structures. Each experiment evaluated by the same method as before make sure there is phenomena
- this structure acts as an antenna, catches all the frequencies, but transforms them in some way, for example creating a polarized field or gives rise to a certain current with certain parameters or creating the electrostatic field
- need to come up with a hypothesis like this can affect people and then check it. Example hypothesis: generated by the device field can penetrate under the skin (how deep?), does the nervous system and the conductivity of the synapses, removing all blocks and excess currents. Or just create some electrical potential in the body that helps in some way. Here it is possible to propose many hypotheses and all you need to check first on the real facts of the effects of magnetic, electrostatic fields on humans in different physiotherapy devices. You will be surprised - on the Internet it's all there, checked almost everything and many of the results are very interesting. The essence is to understand what the person is affected and how

After setting each of the hypotheses perform experiment. Here is an abstract example: take the ring, connect the oscilloscope probe (a second probe grounded) and see the actual picture, bringing to the ring hand, telephone, TV antenna socket with 50Hz and so on... Maybe something interesting will be found, for example in the socket 50 Hz, and the ring is induced by transformation 67Гц (well, you never know). Also placed inside of the ring different things and again see the picture.
If the oscilloscope will give nothing in the form of a flowing current - don't give up, use devices for the measurement of EMI or electrostatic field, experiment again with the hand with different electrical devices and any that may be associated with electricity, electromagnetism, electrostatics, with bio-electricity.

Once you find the setting that is changing unequivocally and reproducibly, for example in the presentation of the hand or turn on cell phone in dialing mode, and so on - this parameter is characterized, write, looking on. When found, all the parameters depending on the parameters begin to experiment with them to confirm - that's it, do it. Example (the examples may be different, depending on the parameter) - create a "singularity" in the ring, for example near the outlet. Then placed inside a ring resistor is connected with a multimeter or oscilloscope to measure parameters such as AC and DC. Then take the ring from the outlet, to measure the parameters of the resistor - op, has changed. In addition to the resistor - experiment with a coil and a capacitor.

In the end, exactly the instrument method will show and prove what is really inside the ring is something unusual, which is NOT without a ring. And it happens in such-and-such conditions.
Then try to understand how those conditions and changes from the ring can influence a person - here you need to Google and find for example "the influence of low-frequency magnetic field on the conductivity of the skin" or "influence of electrostatic field on human"...

In the end, having spent a lot of efforts, wasted time, many weeks or months - you will certainly become aware of. In case of success you will fully understand the process, understand what and why is happening, how to improve them, and maybe create their own something much more powerful.
In case of failure - level of consciousness will rise in any case the order is a guarantee. After all this time you were trying to figure out made the effort, searched, built connections in the brain.




However, before such experiments it is generally desirable to make sure that it works. For this is the double blind test. Here it is very briefly:
1. Make 5 correct and 5 incorrect rings (which should work). On the incorrect put some unnoticeable mark
2. Distribute these 10 rings of different people, not to mention where correct and where incorrect (and hand out blindly, at this point you do not know which is which)
3. People are testing, describe their feelings, say working or not
4. You write it down, after all the reviews check who the right ring and who is wrong. If the rings work, then the 5 people with the correct rings will give positive feedback, and 5 people with the wrong rings will give negative reviews (plus correction for some error of the human psyche). If not - alas, it is a placebo

Moreover, in double-blind testing should clearly specify the performance criteria of as: it has to be so things need to happen-so. The more vague the criteria, the less adequately tested.

But what exactly and specifically what the rings should do... it is now very blurry. Not suitable ((( Used as an air freshener is a good criterion, accurate (only need a big testing period, a month for example, and the smell because there are irregular and depend on humidity and temperature too). But the use as the treatment is very inadequate description. What is the treatment? The person every day something hurts, a cut or scratch. In and of itself in any case healing. Wearing the ring also heals, it is not due to the therapeutic properties of the ring.


PS undetectable fields and impacts does not exist. If the ring really works and thus connected with the "special" fields, these "special fields" in any case, interact with the physical world through fields of normal. If not - the device inoperative.
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Re: The Ring. Testing (from in Passing)

Post by Шалтай Балтай » Sat Jul 09, 2016 16:56

мимоходом wrote:1. Make 5 correct and 5 incorrect rings (which should work).
the idea of testing of rings I like, respect! :ay
BUT
it's not easy
even write a test plan is a task
here, for example the first paragraph: "5 wrong (which should work)"
Cheh... would b it's so easy
look, say, sacred measure respectively the resonant frequency of 144 MHz if for the slim and the length 523 mm
Well, suppose we're wrong about a couple of mm and do in 526 mm, will this merc working?
If you carefully listen to (view) interview of slim cal Harrison, he says that 144 MHz is the resonant frequency of white light, if you change the measure it will the ring to resonate? YES it WILL but not at beloam, and for example on the purple or maybe yellow light. LM will this ring work? YES it WILL, but in his aspect.
So what would here take out and put 100% of the "non-working" (or negative) measurements - so I have no :?

Further, You propose to bring 10 people to issledovaniyam, the idea is adequate just where to get them? At the seminar in may Presto 2 people :)
What 10 people, I have 10 identical rings on the hands was not :)

I like Your systematic-methodical approach, but it is good, when you have resources to learn :wink:
And here, what resources? Humpty sits on the perch, the very mending the Primus, that's the whole resource :) 8)

But I'm willing to make all possible efforts in this direction,
if what you want from me - do not hesitate to write

Sincerely Yours
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Re: The Ring. Testing (from in Passing)

Post by мимоходом » Sat Jul 09, 2016 17:06

With a set of people for testing is of course very difficult -- first of all, a lot of freeloaders, and secondly a lot gipervozbujdenia magic, which "feel" the magic from a piece of asphalt, if you say that it's a piece of meteorite, in the third there are many at all do not feel anything... This issue is certainly understandable...

What about the resonance of white light is very interesting! If you mean directly white light in the literal sense - is the meaning of the measurement parameters should be conducted just shining on the ring in different light? You can even through the colored glass, to see whether or not.

I myself with an oscilloscope worked as far as, it is not sure that he will be able to catch the changes of current during the passage of light... But if it works out it will be well, very interesting. And most importantly - is undeniable, the device is a device.

However there is a caveat with frequency 144Мгц. This frequency is slightly higher than normal radio frequency. That is, conventional radio is a 100-110Мгц. And the frequency of light it millions of times higher. It is unclear what is meant slim, saying it was about this frequency in relation to the light.

About the wrong rings... irregularities in the weave, irregularities in the assembling, soldering, material, gross violations of proportions... It would work worse than an exact match, I guess. In General, all defective ring (probably happens occasionally marriage)

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Re: The Ring. Testing (from in Passing)

Post by АндрейКо » Sat Jul 09, 2016 17:29

I propose to try something simpler.
For example to freeze 2 plastic Cup with water in the freezer
To get and put to defrost in the same conditions
And to see whether in the Cup with the ring faster the ice melts.
If there is a difference - then experiment.

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Re: The Ring. Testing (from in Passing)

Post by мимоходом » Sat Jul 09, 2016 17:34

It is a normal variant, if you explain why the ice in the same Cup could melt faster... Have in mind that changing the structure of water? I don't believe it, but the experiment would be interesting. Of course, if without bias.

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Re: The Ring. Testing (from in Passing)

Post by Пчела » Sat Jul 09, 2016 17:47

АндрейКо wrote:I Propose to try something simpler.
For example to freeze 2 plastic Cup with water in the freezer
To get and put to defrost in the same conditions
And to see whether in the Cup with the ring faster the ice melts.
If there is a difference - then experiment.
I have long established in the idea that the public forum is akin to the audience in the cinema. Wearing 3D glasses, Popcorn crunches and none of which case no.

You personally, these tests need? Because you're already convinced that the rings work. So why get involved in the subject of the health check of the rings, undermine your inner faith?

Humpty, and why you need to indulge samootverzhenno due to the prestige of others, fool?

Take the example of Michael Shishmaref. Just not paying attention.

You don't know what's going on? He write about the various light spectra. And this Energy among other things.

This Passing/Mashomuck, is run by the dark and dirty colors energies and performs the function of distracting you from something more important.

Don't you understand?

You this down will prove nothing but a waste of time.

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Re: The Ring. Testing (from in Passing)

Post by ММ » Sat Jul 09, 2016 22:42

Пчела wrote:
АндрейКо wrote:I Propose to try something simpler.
For example to freeze 2 plastic Cup with water in the freezer
To get and put to defrost in the same conditions
And to see whether in the Cup with the ring faster the ice melts.
If there is a difference - then experiment.
I have long established in the idea that the public forum is akin to the audience in the cinema. Wearing 3D glasses, Popcorn crunches and none of which case no.

You personally, these tests need? Because you're already convinced that the rings work. So why get involved in the subject of the health check of the rings, undermine your inner faith?

Humpty, and why you need to indulge samootverzhenno due to the prestige of others, fool?

Take the example of Michael Shishmaref. Just not paying attention.

You don't know what's going on? He write about the various light spectra. And this Energy among other things.

This Passing/Mashomuck, is run by the dark and dirty colors energies and performs the function of distracting you from something more important.

Don't you understand?

You this down will prove nothing but a waste of time.
Right Bee. Well done! As they say in the eye punched. This jerk passing everyone already tired. Already sick of it and all. You just erase all his posts and let the rolls to hell, as quickly as possible. 8)

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Re: The Ring. Testing (from in Passing)

Post by АндрейКо » Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:58

Пчела wrote:
АндрейКо wrote:I Propose to try something simpler.
For example to freeze 2 plastic Cup with water in the freezer
To get and put to defrost in the same conditions
And to see whether in the Cup with the ring faster the ice melts.
If there is a difference - then experiment.
I have long established in the idea that the public forum is akin to the audience in the cinema. Wearing 3D glasses, Popcorn crunches and none of which case no.

You personally, these tests need? Because you're already convinced that the rings work. So why get involved in the subject of the health check of the rings, undermine your inner faith?

Humpty, and why you need to indulge samootverzhenno due to the prestige of others, fool?

Take the example of Michael Shishmaref. Just not paying attention.

You don't know what's going on? He write about the various light spectra. And this Energy among other things.

This Passing/Mashomuck, is run by the dark and dirty colors energies and performs the function of distracting you from something more important.

Don't you understand?

You this down will prove nothing but a waste of time.
Dear Bee, badly need your advice, but I will do what you think is right. In your message just a bunch of light.

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Re: The Ring. Testing (from in Passing)

Post by АндрейКо » Mon Jul 11, 2016 23:32

In total 144 1/2 measurements cross-section 10 mm*mm
Two plastic cups with water after reverse osmosis in the freezer.
On one ring directly in the freezer.
We got two cups at a newspaper to thaw without a ring and with the ring while interval shooting in a minute. Already visually shows that the ice in the Cup with the ring melts faster. Really.
Even now there is an experiment and put the result may not write with windowsphone...

Bee was right that I should this time spent on the creation of the harmonizer.

You can see the result:
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Re: The Ring. Testing (from in Passing)

Post by Ланцелот » Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:00

ММ wrote:already Sick of it and all.
Wean speak for all.

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