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Re: The Ring. Workshop

Post by Малика » Thu Sep 15, 2016 22:10

So white background with the transition to the right in yellow...the entire area extends to the right, but not entirely, and spots..this is me on the bottom photo..
On the top photo , probably because of the light, white, glow yellow, which went to the bottom left corner..

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Re: The Ring. Workshop

Post by Патрик » Thu Sep 15, 2016 22:44

Malika, my compliments :o With my firstborn :)

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Post by Ольга К » Fri Sep 16, 2016 15:53

akavak of the rod tinned
diameter of 5 and 7 cm

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Re: The Ring. Workshop

Post by Шалтай Балтай » Fri Sep 16, 2016 16:08

atpat :ay
give bronze!
not only will saladita it accidentally!

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Re: The Ring. Workshop

Post by Шалтай Балтай » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:23

For those who makes, what кое0 reference data

Approximate the minimum diameter of the winder knot (Kubaka) depending on wire diameter, with the Sigma material

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 | | Cu | BRAF | Lat
σ = | | 0.3 | 0.3 | 0.2

d Wire = | 3 | | | 
D, Tube = | | 8.50 | 8.50 | 13.50

d Wire = | 4 | | | 
D, Tube = | | 11.33 | 11.33 | 18.00

d Wire = | 5 | | | 
D, Tube = | | 14.17 | 14.17 | 22.50

d Wire = | 6 | | | 
D, Tube = | | 17.00 | 17.00 | 27.00

Example, For Copper wire, F4 min. diameter Kuweka = 11.33 mm

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:27

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Diameter | Cross Section | Weight
mm | mm2 | g / m
1 | 0,785398 | 7.014
1.5 | 1,767146 | 15.781
2 | 3,141593 | 28.054
2.5 | 4,908739 | 43.835
3 | 7,068583 | 63.122
3.5 | 9,621128 | 85.917
4 | 12,566371 | 112.218
4.5 | 15,904313 | 142.026
5 | 19,634954 | 175.34
5.5 | 23,758294 | 212.162
6 | 28,274334 | 252.49
6.5 | 33,183072 | 296.325
7 | 38,484510 | 343.667
7.5 | 44,178647 | 394.515
8 | 50,265482 | 448.871
8.5 | 56,745017 | 506.733
9 | 63,617251 | 568.102
9.5 | 70,882184 | 632.978
10 | 78,539816 | 701.361

Example, Weight Kovaka, F3, 3.5 Scoops = 120 g, approximately
Weight Kovaka, F5, 3.5 Scoops = 330 g, about

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Re: The Ring. Workshop

Post by Ольга К » Tue Sep 20, 2016 16:24

Шалтай Балтай wrote:atpat :ay
give bronze!
not only will saladita it accidentally!

akovac bronze - 11 cm
ring in bronze - diameter 19 cm


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Re: The Ring. Workshop

Post by Малика » Tue Sep 20, 2016 16:32

What a beauty..green, pink, purple, yellow, white..and feeling joyful..very nice..sometimes photos with the dolphins are this color filling and the same feelings..

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Tue Sep 20, 2016 16:46

wow! :shock:

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Re: The Ring. Workshop

Post by Патрик » Tue Sep 20, 2016 23:35

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Post by Патрик » Tue Sep 20, 2016 23:47

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AS sowing accordion ICNA? :)
kuvak 3.5 construction of tensor generator I think :)

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Re: The Ring. Workshop

Post by Вячеслав. » Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:28

Without the media of someone else's truth,the system may soon rust.

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Wed Sep 21, 2016 12:10

Вячеслав. wrote:Without the media of someone else's truth,the system may soon rust.
:roll:

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Re: The Ring. Workshop

Post by Малика » Wed Sep 21, 2016 12:28

Патрик wrote:AS causing the accordion ICNA?
Such a nice colorful but more light green... az

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Post by Патрик » Wed Sep 21, 2016 12:34

Class :o May Wallpaper kicking , they are greenish :) In General, I like light green :D
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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Wed Sep 21, 2016 14:18

I have long scratched turnip over what would make the twisting of the wire before it is measured. Twisting wire is one of the ways to straighten, moreover, the twist was the same spin that the product will bring additional effect. Actually work the product a New Dimension.
What stopped me is the risk of damaging the crystal lattice of the wire.
I decided to count.
Suppose that the middle layer is not deformed, then its length is stable, we denote: l
The length of the perimeter = L, and on one turn she gives the increase in PI*D where D is diameter of wire
Knowing Sigma material, one can calculate the limit number of revolutions per meter of wire

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 | | Cu | BRAF | Lat
σ = | | 0.3 | 0.3 | 0.2
d Wire = | 2.5 | | | 
L-l = | 7.85 | | | 
l = | | 26.18 | 26.18 | 39.27
Loops/m = | | 38.20 | 38.20 | 25.46
 | | | | 
d Wire = | 3 | | | 
L-l = | 9.42 | | | 
l = | | 31.42 | 31.42 | 47.12
Loops/m = | | 31.83 | 31.83 | 21.22
 | | | | 
d Wire = | 3.5 | | | 
L-l = | 11.00 | | | 
l = | | 36.65 | 36.65 | 54.98
Loops/m = | | 27.28 | 27.28 | 18.19
 | | | | 
d Wire = | 4 | | | 
L-l = | 12.57 | | | 
l = | | 41.89 | 41.89 | 62.83
Loops/m = | | 23.87 | 23.87 | 15.92
 | | | | 
d Wire = | 5 | | | 
L-l = | 15.71 | | | 
l = | | 52.36 | 52.36 | 78.54
Loops/m = | | 19.10 | 19.10 | 12.73

It is seen that for Copper wire in 2.5 mm limit value speed 1 meter - 38.20
This is a significant factor. Really need 15-20 revs to 3-4 meters.

Obviously, it makes sense to change the technology and bring the item.
You can call it a Wire` (Wire-bar) or Wire~ (Wire-Tilde), or from Greek some thread bukowiec to use :oops: View.<

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Re: The Ring. Workshop

Post by Шалтай Балтай » Wed Sep 21, 2016 17:20

Патрик wrote:Image
AS sowing accordion ICNA? :)
kuvak 3.5 construction of tensor generator I think :)
Hmm, interesting
I see You changed the kuvak, now he's a left back - respect
I see that the structure of the rings also has changed, now it's more napominaet Brajanovski option. But it is necessary... not on the square and the triangle. Hmm... Why not...
Interesting

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Re: The Ring. Workshop

Post by АндрейКо » Wed Sep 21, 2016 19:34

Вячеслав. wrote:Without the media of someone else's truth,the system may soon rust.
Maybe not quite in the topic:
We wonder how the copper varnish? (and then, over time, copper products fade)

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Wed Sep 21, 2016 19:39

АндрейКо wrote:Interesting, and whether copper varnish? (and then, over time, copper products fade)
Good serviece, andreiko
This option was considered. The problem is that the copper ring is elastic product and has a certain degree of compression/stretching. Varnishes, unfortunately, with this problem.
+ varnish is not durable, and can begin to flake over time.
At the moment, the tinkering looks like the best solution.
On the other hand, any detailed studies in this direction were not carried out, if You have the desire to study the topic - I, for its part, will only support! az

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Re: The Ring. Workshop

Post by АндрейКо » Wed Sep 21, 2016 19:44

Humpty Baltay try, for example, the rings 144, 1/2 measurements, cross section 10mm*mm compression-tension (probably) not very large.

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Wed Sep 21, 2016 20:37

andreyko
OK

Hmm....
at the moment a set of Measurements, Harmonics, materials and technologies offer the potential variety of products over 20 thousand :roll:

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:43

One more thing.
I like the idea of multi-strand braids. This increases the quality factor
In addition, the dense twisting of the twin braids puts the material at the limit of his strength, that is not the gut, as it can cause internal ruptures of the crystal lattice.

here, plate:

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F | S | Weight | Pigtail
mm | mm2 | g / m| 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7
1 | 0.785 | 7.014 | 14.03 | 21.04 | 28.06 | 35.07 | 42.08 | 49.10
1.5 | 1.767 | 15.781 | 31.56 | 47.34 | 63.12 | 78.91 | 94.69 | 110.47
2 | 3.142 | 28.054 | 56.11 | 84.16 | 112.22 | 140.27 | 168.32 | 196.38
2.5 | 4.909 | 43.835 | 87.67 | 131.51 | 175.34 | 219.18 | 263.01 | 306.85
3 | 7.069 | 63.122 | 126.24 | 189.37 | 252.49 | 315.61 | 378.73 | 441.85
3.5 | 9.621 | 85.917 | 171.83 | 257.75 | 343.67 | 429.59 | 515.50 | 601.42
4 | 12.566 | 112.218 | 224.44 | 336.65 | 448.87 | 561.09 | 673.31 | 785.53
4.5 | 15.904 | 142.026 | 284.05 | 426.08 | 568.10 | 710.13 | 852.16 | 994.18
5 | 19.635 | 175.34 | 350.68 | 526.02 | 701.36 | 876.70 | 1052.04 | 1227.38

I do Braid-3 from 2.5. According to weight per meter: 131.51 g. Brewed with some effort 4kW Kapowski cutter.
5mm Rod - 175.34. IMHO, boiled as I thought, even easier. :?
Well, for a guide.

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:46

no one experimented with products from multi-wire harness? 5kA, 7ka?

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:33

And here viridovipera another aspect, namely the product a New Dimension. The Besh braid, twisted braids. You have to understand that braid has much greater elasticity than wire of the same diameter. The Besh to pull the pigtail of 3mm wire is not the same as to cut the braid in two braids, each at 1.5
hmm, expand a sign:

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F | S | Weight | Pigtail
mm | mm2 | g / m| 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 12 | 16
1 | 0.785 | 7.014 | 14.03 | 21.04 | 28.06 | 35.07 | 42.08 | 49.10 | 56.11 | 63.13 | 84.17 | 112.22
1.5 | 1.767 | 15.781 | 31.56 | 47.34 | 63.12 | 78.91 | 94.69 | 110.47 | 126.25 | 142.03 | 189.37 | 252.50
2 | 3.142 | 28.054 | 56.11 | 84.16 | 112.22 | 140.27 | 168.32 | 196.38 | 224.43 | 252.49 | 336.65 | 448.86
2.5 | 4.909 | 43.835 | 87.67 | 131.51 | 175.34 | 219.18 | 263.01 | 306.85 | 350.68 | 394.52 | 526.02 | 701.36
3 | 7.069 | 63.122 | 126.24 | 189.37 | 252.49 | 315.61 | 378.73 | 441.85 | 504.98 | 568.10 | 757.46 | 1009.95
3.5 | 9.621 | 85.917 | 171.83 | 257.75 | 343.67 | 429.59 | 515.50 | 601.42 | 687.34 | 773.25 | 1031.00 | 1374.67
4 | 12.566 | 112.218 | 224.44 | 336.65 | 448.87 | 561.09 | 673.31 | 785.53 | 897.74 | 1009.96 | 1346.62 | 1795.49
4.5 | 15.904 | 142.026 | 284.05 | 426.08 | 568.10 | 710.13 | 852.16 | 994.18 | 1136.21 | 1278.23 | 1704.31 | 2272.42
5 | 19.635 | 175.34 | 350.68 | 526.02 | 701.36 | 876.70 | 1052.04 | 1227.38 | 1402.72 | 1578.06 | 2104.08 | 2805.44


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Re: The Ring. Workshop

Post by Шалтай Балтай » Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:49

for example, if curl 3 triple braids of 1.5 mm wire, it will give 9 measurements per meter, then Besh, 142.03 g per meter. Well, it's perfectly acceptable!
but a similar product from 2mm wire will weigh 252.49 g per meter. It already simply does not cook 8)

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