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Post by Владимир Никонов 2 » Fri Sep 05, 2014 14:19

In sale of medical physiotherapeutic device "Doctor TES-03", which is able to significantly increase the body's ability to produce endorphins.
The effect of even a half-hour procedure lasts from 12 hours to several days.
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Post by Северный ветер » Fri Sep 05, 2014 15:04

Vladimir, please tell me, what is the difference between a "doctor TES-03" and ALTARIA? Both the descriptions using the method of transcranial electrical stimulation, but the electrodes nakladyvaya differently. How is this possible?

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Post by Кона » Fri Sep 05, 2014 15:54

Whether in the office to test the machine before purchase?

Remember when motomarine took me first free session was conducted.

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Post by Григорий » Fri Sep 05, 2014 16:43

Кона wrote:is it Possible in the office to test the machine before purchase?

Remember when motomarine took me first free session was conducted.
Hello!Yes,it is possible to test the device in action in the office

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Северный ветер wrote:Vladimir, please tell me, what is the difference between a "doctor TES-03" and ALTARIA? Both the descriptions using the method of transcranial electrical stimulation, but the electrodes nakladyvaya differently. How is this possible?
Hello all members and readers of the forum. Obviously, it would be correct if you answer this (common, by the way) the question directly, we - the authors of TES-therapy and the developers of equipment for her.

In General, it is easier to write that similar features of these devices. Is that both are transcranial electrical stimulation. In this common ends.
trans, lat. through; cranium, lat. skull Any electrostimulation by the electrodes on the head will be "transcranial". The question is, what will happen in the body? But it depends on what current (type, power, pulse shape, frequency, amplitude, etc.), how many of the electrodes, location of electrodes, size of electrodes, exposure time etc. That is all easy.
Here is an analogy - the difference between a vial of procaine and glucose? Both injecting drugs and their effect starts after entering of the drugs into a vein. In this common ends.

"Doctor TES" a device for TES therapy. Under this term we understand these exposures, which significantly activates the production of endorphins. And all medical action is due to this peptide, and serotonin. In order for this to happen, you need to use the current strictly defined characteristics, as well as the so-called sagittal location of the electrodes: the forehead, the mastoid processes (behind the ears). By the way, the last (the electrode arrangement) was first established by us (the scientists of the Institute of physiology. I. P. Pavlov Russian Academy of Sciences)jointly with the Institute of Biomedical Engineering University of Toronto, NMR tomography. Different arrangement of electrodes leads to a significant activation of the endorphin - and by dopamine and serotonin structures of the protective mechanisms of the brain.
Ie "Doctor TES" activates the production of endorphins.

"ALTARIA". We'll not be correct to comment on the scientific and evidence base of developers of this phone. It is better to make a request directly to them. But, according to the arrangements say that "ALTARIA" (similar to the American machine "Alpha Stim"), attempts to affect the brain rhythms (EEG), but not in the brain cells. This is an example of the so-called called "distraction therapy," when instead to eliminate the cause, trying to influence the investigation.
And so it is understandable why the "Alfaria" uses a different current. the electrodes and their location.

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Post by Центр ТЭС » Fri Sep 05, 2014 17:55

Григорий wrote:
Кона wrote:is it Possible in the office to test the machine before purchase?

Remember when motomarine took me first free session was conducted.
Hello!Yes,it is possible to test the device in action in the office
It's great that there is such a possibility. But, please note and consider the following
1) TES-therapy is a course therapy. The effect after the first session may be slightly, quickly end (up to 12 hours) or not occur. Need to do from 6-15 treatments, see the instructions.

2) Pay attention to your feelings and the amperage You can handle (you have tingling/tingling in the overlap areas of the electrodes. but in a lot of pain should not be) About 1-2% of people may experience a paradoxical headache during a session. even fewer people who can't endure the minimum current to under 0.5 mA. In this case, TES-therapy does not suit You.

3) "Doctor TES" it's not a miracle machine, and endorphins are not magicians. Improve your health, you can, if initially experiencing some health problems (even exhaustion). But, if You are cheerful, happy and healthy absolute. the fresher, happier and healthier You become. During procedures eliminates endofinternet. "Hyperandrogenism" is not normally the case (and therefore depends on the TES therapy, and does not occur).

4) be Sure to read the contraindications before the session, (convulsive state, epilepsy, trauma and brain tumors, infectious lesions of the Central nervous system, hypertensive disease stage III, hypertensive crisis, hydrocephalus, severe mental disorder, thyrotoxicosis, atrial fibrillation, presence of skin lesions in places of the electrodes, the presence of implanted pacemakers, age 5)<

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Post by Владимир Никонов 2 » Fri Sep 05, 2014 18:40

Северный ветер wrote:Vladimir, please tell me, what is the difference between a "doctor TES-03" and ALTARIA?
Personal feelings. Alfaria easier to use. Put clips on my ears and pressed the button. Dr. TES need to strengthen genevie electrodes on the head. Look solid, but the preparation time takes more.

The results of the exposure will be writing after I finish the full course.
Yet, subjectively, Dr. TES works softer. From Alfaria at once carries.

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Post by ВладимирЖ » Thu Sep 11, 2014 17:49

Center TPP. Hello! I would like to know Your opinion about the quote
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It is clear that the current in Your device miserable, but something scary.
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Post by Центр ТЭС » Thu Sep 11, 2014 18:29

Hmm, hard to comment on some, to put it mildly, strange things. But I will try.
1. In the unit "Doctor TES" use of bipolar current.
2. mode of monopolar current in professional models "Transair". It is used rarely, although in General more effective. The cause of which was the transition to General practice bipolar current is its large Dermatological safety. Do as a result of electrical stimulation at the electrodes, dissociation of salts and one of the electrodes is formed HCl, the other NaOH. This may lead to local burns of the skin, which of course makes the man in the literal sense of the word (redness appear), but does not decorate But no more.
Again, this can occur in unipolar mode (which in "Doctor TES"), and, for large power current. It is used in neurology with very strong pain and addiction. But, here too people need to subside, about the redness, no one thinks.
3. As the "chlorine (?! it is generally a gas) and lye" can get inside the body and there to kill the worms and intestinal flora, we not known :ap
4. Well, the results of 25 years of clinical practice no such things are not recorded.
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Post by МОЛЧУН » Thu Sep 11, 2014 18:48

Hello, Sirs and Madams!
May be the old tried and tested disc"Endorphins", is much softer and softer ... ?
What is the difference with TES-03?
With "ALTARIA" don't ask, because she literally 6-8 treatments collapsed the electrodes.
And if you take the electrodes ( as in TPP) and connect them via "Alfaria" as TES-3.
As understood from the videos in the TES, the carrier frequency of 77.5 Hz, surely "Alfaria" the same (maybe someone knows or has measured)

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Post by Центр ТЭС » Thu Sep 11, 2014 19:10

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For reliable production of endorphins need, again a combination of current well-defined characteristics and particular arrangement of electrodes. You can listen to any disc, but will it all work only at the level of suggestion. no more.
Again - "ALTARIA" another machine, it tries to change the alpha rhythms. No matter what sort of electrodes. You can in ampoules of glucose, pour the novocaine to inject and... What to your body will happen?
The frequency is important. but not the only necessary condition in the characterization current.

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Post by Кона » Thu Sep 11, 2014 20:01

Question mostly to developers and doctors on the forum:

Will not die if a mechanism of natural production of endorphins in the daily activities of a person who started to use the device?
Take hormonal medications - as soon as he started to drink, your body stops itself to release as a freebie came.
With viagra I think a similar mechanism.

Here we purposefully click and click on the point in the brain, the brain has nowhere to go, he just would leave him alone, throws out endorphins, over and over again.
And then we device no longer used, and the mechanism of production of endorphins already rebuilt under specific external stimulator...

What are the clinical stat. data? As people then struggle with the instrument dependence?

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Post by МОЛЧУН » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:21

Center TES wrote:
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[You can listen to any disc, but will it all work only at the level of suggestion. no more.] :roll:
Vladimir comment please...

Center TES
Could You provide the technical specifications of CHP-3 (frequency, voltage , current, etc., it would be nice waveform).
I do not think that it is a commercial or any secret, because these characteristics will be able to remove from the device any electronics with an oscilloscope.
The publication of these characteristics YOU give more to get more confidence from us consumers.
In the end, the consumer has the right to know what he gets

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Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:46

МОЛЧУН wrote:Hello, sir and Soderini....With "ALTARIA" don't ask, because she literally 6-8 treatments collapsed the electrodes.
All who purchase in the office, always repeated several times that the electrodes are a consumable item, and if you want to use for a long time, use carefully. And that means the clip, she's clothespin, clothespins if to pull clenched , then can break. The clip getting dressed and closing is also removed, NOT PULLED off the EAR!!!!! This office do regularly. When the clip is not decompressed, the pressure relief plate-the sponge flies. Although it can be glued back, and his stick is new.

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Post by Центр ТЭС » Fri Sep 12, 2014 14:00

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About the relationship. Correct to say that the device does not cause habituation and addiction. Because the effects of TES-therapy have homeostatic orientation in relation to the disturbed functions. That is, the recovery is not enough operating system to the state standards. In this, after a course of treatment you liquidate your endocrinologist and ensure the normal operation endorphinergic system for a period of approximately six months (on average, of course). It is the goal of therapy, not just activate the production of endorphins. So about any "withering away" it is not, but quite the opposite. Clinical stat. data for 25 years, this problem is not revealed.

But the reliance on procedures is possible. For example, the patient has severe pain, making the procedure (not "Doctor TES" - his power is not enough!) is relieved. Naturally, he will try to do the procedure on and on, that would not feel pain. In some cases it is justified and applicable. Or alcoholic get out of the binge after TES-therapy (again, not "Doctor TES" - his power is not enough!), he'll love it... get drunk again as they all just got drunk and "protasis". Then you can not continue, nothing good will come of it. In this, all medical procedures (especially if you have serious violations) need to be responsible and better under the supervision of a specialist.

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Features, until the waveforms have long been published and publicly available. Everything we do is pretty transparent. If you want to thoroughly understand this issue we suggest you to read that.2 "Transcranial electrical stimulation: experimental and clinical studies." SPb, 2005, as well as materials from our website tes.spb.ru (there's also this fact can be found in electronic form).

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Regarding the statement about "Discs". Here we are, of course, some got excited with the assessments is another procedure which we do not and in this to evaluate it can not. Please accept our apologies.<

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Post by Кона » Fri Sep 12, 2014 16:12

Thank you, TES, believe it! ))
The question here is what is left - and how to make sure, for example, I have the production of endorphins? Ie if normal, then the device is not needed, and you suddenly need to restore the function to normal? For example, the end of the day I don't smile, it's not normal..

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Post by Центр ТЭС » Fri Sep 12, 2014 17:18

There are absolute and relative (indirect) signs, complaints, symptoms and syndromes that suggest endofinternet from sick people and even those considered healthy or relatively healthy.

Absolute:
  • pain syndromes, constancy and the intensity of which exceeds reasonable limits;
    unexplained frequent headaches, chronic migraine;
    migrating chronic pain associated with the spine and joints;
    prolonged lack of healing of even small wounds and abrasions;
    frequent unpredictable changes in blood pressure, meteosensitivity;
    menstrual disorders in women, premenstrual syndrome, vomiting of pregnancy, menopausal disorders;
    deteriorating hearing;
    chronic constipation or diarrhea not associated with infection or obvious malnutrition;
    gambling, substance abuse, alcoholism and opium addiction.
Relative:
  • inability to concentrate, to think clearly, to make decisions;
    abnormal sleep disturbed sleep and a sense of nevidannoy;
    unexplained weakness and fatigue;
    a low, sad mood, tearfulness, anxiety, causeless fear;
    unexplained intolerance irritability;
    unexplained frequent all-season colds, or exacerbations of chronic diseases of the nasopharynx, including in children (sickly children);
    the rise of visual fatigue, including when working on the computer;
    pre-school maladjustment, attention deficit with hyperactivity in children
The presence of these signs, complaints, symptoms and syndromes makes showing holding of TES-therapy. The effect of treatment can reach and even exceed 90% of the total number of patients.

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Post by Кона » Fri Sep 12, 2014 17:50

Dear TES, but the presence of pain of a certain nature doesn't just to have some functional problems in the body? For example back pain: back pain, but start doing exercise, to swim, bend, and pain. I.e. the characteristics that You've written, they're just the consequence of the problems in the different systems, and the release of endorphins the cause is not removed! Or how to be here?
I have not considered in the reasoning?

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Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Fri Sep 12, 2014 18:11

Some pains are purely psihosomaticheskoy nature. Sometimes it is enough servings of endorphins, boosting mood , and as a consequence stress relief , clips ,hence , the stress in the same spine .Straighten the vertebrae,intervertebral discs snap into place and the nerve endings cease to honk. By the way of a herniated disc often have not offset physical stress and clips for stress, fears. Sometimes it is enough relaxation(music, MM, massage and others) and pain . Blockage in the meridians is also reflected in the spine and in the body. Can also be a fixed portion of endorphins.
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Post by Центр ТЭС » Fri Sep 12, 2014 18:40

True.
In General, TES-therapy is, as a rule, etiotropic therapy, removes the cause of disease and, as a consequence of the symptoms. But there are case when only the symptoms are eliminated. Pain when intervertebral hernia, for example. It is clear that the hernia will not resolve with TES-therapy. Similarly pain during cancer or dental pain associated with the pressure of the exudate on the nerve - fluid to release thermal power plant-can't, either. At the same time, there are other actions TPP (reportive, normalization of vascular tone, autonomic regulation, psychophysiological status, protivovospalitelnoe etc) because the effect is integrated that can help the main treatment in these cases.

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Post by Кона » Fri Sep 12, 2014 18:44

Ie, is the release of endorphins, muscle tension decreases, the muscles cease to pinched nerves, and pain associated with pregatiti nerves, passes?

Kind of convincing, then the device need.

But all stress the device does not relax, and it is necessary that the body itself of the effects of stress is removed.
Apparently, the mood in the head need a specific (type - and we are all equal...)

TES wrote: "Doctor TES" - his power is not enough! -

it turns out, is the instrument weak? maybe two at a time should you use?

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Post by Центр ТЭС » Fri Sep 12, 2014 19:52

No, not so.
With regard to pain. In General, the analgesic effect was the starting point. Even the endorphin means "internal morphine", and morphine, as you know has long been used as painkillers. However analgesic effect of beta-endorphin in 30 times exceeds the effect of morphine. Blocking the conduction of nerve impulses TES-therapy is in the following links:
  • decreases the sensitivity of pain receptors in the periphery (due to beta-endorphin)
    pain reflexes are inhibited (due to the release of the neurotransmitter substance P
    blocks the conduction of pain impulses at the level of the medulla oblongata and the thalamus on the way to the somatosensory cortex
But, about the fact that wrote of LILIYA-R can also take place. Opioid system is generally a key stress-limiting system (can see in any textbook on physiology or Wikipedia). And normalization of psychophysiological status one of the important functions of endorphins - "hormones of happiness" that's here.

Two unit "Doctor TES" at 1.5 mA in the amount not give 3 mA, which you may not sustain electrodes and nowhere additional to sculpt a forehead you have one, and the mastoid processes behind the ear two. Serious cases require a professional approach, read the appeal to the specialist. "Doctor TES" is designed for home use and as such its capacity is sufficient in abundance.

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Post by Центр ТЭС » Mon Sep 29, 2014 15:04

Pay attention to the fact that the "Publications" section on the website contains an article "TES-therapy is the most rapid, efficient and safe method to normalize the level of endorphins" in which brief has to say about such effects of TES-therapy as enhancement to health, attention, memory, normalization of sleep. Will be happy to answer additional questions.

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Post by Центр ТЭС » Tue Oct 07, 2014 16:44

another great article:

, the Application of TES therapy in sports medicine.

Material written including, according to the St. Petersburg Academy of physical education, P. F. Lesgaft and the Moscow Institute of biomedical problems RAS, it's a bit pseudo-scientific to narrative. But, nothing difficult to understand no to understand the material is not difficult.

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Post by Кона » Tue Oct 07, 2014 21:24

You know, I bought the device, where some five days include.

The first thing I want to say - it works. Ie without it, and with it state different.

Very much it was noticeable the next day after the first inclusion: we need to work to move, and urgently, and I sex started... Where is my concern? Go away somewhere.
Then softer manifestations began.

I like using a little tension in your life to remove: I used a couple of days per week worked, and now 6 days out of seven - the trip, a few hard given., really wanted to do it.

It is clear that come tired, but notice this - if I reacted to some actions of a friend with whom I live, and started a showdown with the proof of its stocks (already ridiculous), now I have these same actions don't hurt, i.e., some apathy is evident that pleases me.

And apparently, after ten days of sessions need a break to do for a month?

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