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Re: Help to overcome fear!

Post by к-13 » Tue May 31, 2016 12:42

ЛИЛИЯ-Р wrote:Konstantinos Disk Explorer Andrei Patrushev, 350 rubles and himself a psychologist. This is a problem of fear was in 2008, she worked , was really creepy at first. then itself processed.
Aren't you afraid that he's having another panic attack begins while listening? Imagine alpha as again choked and dies from suffocation and all the lights, throw a grenade (you never know what bright colors him unusual as a picture of the paint attack)... the Council already along with wireless headphones so the wire did not samargol...

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Re: Help to overcome fear!

Post by к-13 » Tue May 31, 2016 12:48

fellow forum users, which as respects Constantine! In humans, a PANIC ATTACK is a lotion and poultice of plantain will not help him, especially since he already had read Internet and I am sure he can decide who is right and who is not. This doesn't escalate the situation to man.
His problem is simple to solve, ways to do this, the most experienced lot. Remove the tension from traumatic memories, and then he can do it - at least the same drink afobazole. The same collapse anchors to reduce the emotional triggering memories, half an hour will be enough (a few visits, though, perhaps, enough for one times, but it is so colorfully painted their sorrow that I'm afraid to shoot it will be easier). And after folk medicine and izoterike with the current level of medicine it will be easier for phenazepam chlorpromazine and haloperidol to put...

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Re: Help to overcome fear!

Post by Константинос » Tue May 31, 2016 14:00

this is where is This mysterious country, in which there is no physician, upravlyayuschego brains? There you have people with mental issues stupid from the cliff into the abyss drop, so as not to suffer? Or psycho bred, won adequate and all healers destroyed as a class?
A bit wrong, but the fact is that there is. I'm telling you in the only medical University simply do not teach this specialty. My cousin wanted to go to a therapist. Do nothing in this situation, I would not have written. I appreciated your time and the time of others. And since the forum relate to technological products Mind Machines and other goods from the field of neo-development, the interest I showed in context. Otherwise clearly I would not write. And nobody says that I want to self-medicate. As I wrote above addressed to ENT doctor, and how his expertise and knowledge helped me, he affirmatively reported no physical ailment in his field. Went to internist, and he gave the only sensible answer neustojchivosti emotional and psycho-something (can't remember exactly what it was) + physical clamp in the throat on the basis of emotional instability (written as I could in plain language). But with a therapist whose office was a lot of foreign diplomas and almost the whole town goes to her, so all a funny situation happened. Sagely looked, asked some strange questions about my sex life and prescribed tranquilizers and nootropics, which later caused even more panic attacks. Now not only while eating but also at night. I thought at first, defensive reaction and continue to take, until he came to vomiting immediately after taking medicine. Went to get her again to find out why it happened and she said that medicine it is powerless. To be treated only the hypnotherapist. Where can I get it if not? Option to go abroad only this, even if considered, it is still money I have none. And now back to the original point. That's why I decided to ask whether there is a technological way of immersion in a hypnotic state for writing well-composed installations.
lotion and poultice of plantain will not help him
:oops: 5+ for a sense of humor. Much to the nonsense I just will not come. Although the local neighbor went nuts and was advised to go to a "healer".<

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Re: Help to overcome fear!

Post by Константинос » Tue May 31, 2016 14:05

to Remove the tension from traumatic memories
Here personal want. To remove the program, not just copy the new installation is to erase on a physical and emotional level. To avoid anchors.
the same collapse anchors to reduce the emotional triggering memories, half an hour will be enough
If I only knew what we can do. But alas. Doctors of this specialization just yet.

I'm ready to work on this situation and really want to eliminate the infection but only by the fact that really available in my conditions. But tell me have you heard about the program the Wheel of Time (the Internet is)? Or TPP and EMDR? What is it?

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Re: Help to overcome fear!

Post by к-13 » Tue May 31, 2016 15:14

Konstantinoscollapse anchors is a very simple one of the easiest and efficient techniques to solve the problems of traumatic memories (my personal opinion, based on practical experience).

I can briefly describe the essence of the technique, but in Your case, You yourself still can not cope, at least need a sensible assistant (at least sister ask if she is a bit in the subject).

To start, choose something bright and joyful memories from your past (that You remember well and which you feel uplifted) and submerged as deeply as possible into him - literally trying to relive is to remember the tiniest details (what the weather was, what were You wearing and how the body felt that clothing, wind, cold or Sunny warmth, the noises sounded in the background who was there...) when it gets hold of you, You need to fix it for any gesture (I usually refer to the palm of the right hand). Usually start with the bad memories, but here it is not necessary to sharpen.

Then similarly immersed in anxiety (as far as possible need not - judging from Your story with this and so You have no problems). That is to control You in this state need a specialist, so You do not fell into another panic attack - only need to support, to inspire confidence that nothing terrible this time will not happen, and to put the anchor (best mirror, that is, in my case, touch the palm of the left hand) before You step over the line panic attacks and in time to stop You.

Then start again to take in the first memory (already this point has a slight therapeutic effect) and again fixed his touch, and again in the traumatic fixation. At this point, the assistant should calibrate the effect of anchors - enough well they are installed. If OK, then only thing left is to collapse those anchors. This is done so You drift back to bad memories and try to imagine that instead of the emotions that you experienced really feel those that were in the first, joyful memories, and traumatic memories part was just an unfortunate mistake that couldn't ruin the moment and in this moment to activate both anchors (first bad, then good, hold a little, removed the same way - first Prisursky anchor, then resource) - in the process of collapse both anchors are erased, and with them removed the emotional coloring with both memories of joy in the first will not, it will fade, but will fade and the second problem. That is, the problem will be solved. And a joyful new memories you will make.

As you can see, it does not need some sort of super-psychiatrist, rather very simple.

EMDR and thermal power plants can also be used (Hassan Aliyev in Russian adapted something similar called the "Key" manuals to her in Russia was distributed to the MOE and the special forces - emergency rehabilitation of victims of disasters and terrorist attacks, I personally saw them), but they are easy to do incorrectly without examination technique.<

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Re: Help to overcome fear!

Post by к-13 » Tue May 31, 2016 15:17

viewtopic.php?f=47&t=5272 - with this topic here read.

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Re: Help to overcome fear!

Post by Константинос » Tue May 31, 2016 15:24

Thank you for your assistance. I will try to follow your recommendation but if that doesn't work if the chance to interview private in skype with you?

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Re: Help to overcome fear!

Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Tue May 31, 2016 15:26

Константинос wrote:anyway I do not feel discomfort inside physical but wild with fear and panic. The first thought that arose when I choked: that's going to die here and stuck. From there, and fantasies began to dance uncontrollably.
Listen To Roma-To-13. He bad will not advise. Know.))))
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Re: Help to overcome fear!

Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Tue May 31, 2016 15:32

Чезаре wrote:In the description above is similar to the block on the visuddhi /it is associated not only with the refusal of acceptance of something, like mashed potatoes, but different information..
Certainly not only with the refusal of food and speciem any information, so the food is also information. And here's the other problem, Makhno in life? Directed by myself and do not teach moral help financially? Well, this right baud side of me, and not one, all educated themselves, and not to hear the blind to see-half-blind, and neither work-is work and other not......

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Re: Help to overcome fear!

Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Tue May 31, 2016 15:38

Чезаре wrote:as if the psychologist is not a magician, you can screw it up more than original condition
As for the psychologists, not the mages , that's for sure, sometimes just using my life to look at the patient own what we are doing now, when I advise Konstantinos. But many psychiatrists are very even mages, and such that many never dreamed of, and why? But because the fact that they are given knowledge, it is not given anywhere. Especially former first division and other closed structure .....keep silence))). Here they are, by the way, now lead different courses and different schools open. Their friends and comrades and friends after hearing them, but not understanding the essence, too, begin smart thing to speak and teach then others, and even courses beenopened)))) And to sense then from such knowledge?

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Re: Help to overcome fear!

Post by Константинос » Tue May 31, 2016 15:59

There are no patterns from the past regarding this issue were not available. I clearly remember my childhood as now. Besides, I have a very vivid imagination which in this case further reinforces the fear and panic. But imagine thinking scheme with the anchors I can. And no I didn't say anything. We have a family in this plan everything was OK, no one is forced to eat. In General, the grandmother is a doctor and always says that each organism has its own diet regime and nutrition. You can't force what is not climbing. And in General our body itself stretches to those products that good for him. And all these tricks - healthy/not healthy food is not more than a marketing ploy :wiz

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Re: Help to overcome fear!

Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Tue May 31, 2016 16:01

к-13 wrote:
ЛИЛИЯ-Р wrote:Konstantinos Disk Explorer Andrei Patrushev, 350 rubles and himself a psychologist. This is a problem of fear was in 2008, she worked , was really creepy at first. then itself processed.
Aren't you afraid that he's having another panic attack begins while listening? Imagine alpha as again choked and dies from suffocation and all the lights, throw a grenade (you never know what bright colors him unusual as a picture of the paint attack)... the Council already along with wireless headphones so the wire did not samargol...
Roma)))), well, not Ko then it all started, once wrote here , so still adequate))) Well , nothing, I fear, too, listened, and with fear under the wheels and the Guide and Healing too buggy)))And Patrushev verse scribbling that such fears and I dreamed my end because I have watched many of their life situation almost awake and body samsi))))And such hranica was that the hair in entire length was standing on his head))) And here's his and not only his guidance and advice tutonic know I got out. And here is alive and like as not to suffer the crazy, because I was scared and then I see that anytime I fall out of the window-well fear not soap Windows, and it is necessary. And now there is no such Patrushev and thank you for all his CDs. THEY'RE NOT VALUABLE. (I do not like the word priceless, infinite value , BES-smart)))and so on ...the devil.....)
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Re: Help to overcome fear!

Post by Константинос » Tue May 31, 2016 16:10

That's just because you do not have any that said another voice + you have immersed yourself in need of alpha state or even a theta. And I may have a problem with listening to these discs because I absolutely can't relax naturally. I got a regular beta-activity. Even in sleep the active stage of thinking with full awareness occurs.

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Re: Help to overcome fear!

Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Tue May 31, 2016 17:23

Konstantinos So hotsa icky to say)))I Knowing our friends, I know I can )))but not say anything and write almost tactfully)))) if possible. Listen to what Roma said. He's not one of those situations pulled(he then writes about it) trained my grandmother and herbalist in the state institution, but what grandma can teach, it does not hurt))) And Do was, well, at least start with the anchors to work. But the Conductor certainly powerful, and want it or not, fell into calm, and calculated. But!!!!then you need your inner consent to HELP YOURSELF!!! and TRUST the one who says in the Guide. Not afraid to relax , not scary just listen to the text, not just scary to see on the TV screen your fears. You do not faint and do not swallow fear when the screen is in movie I see a picture of death or as it is now in all of Hollywood ...the vampires-blood of passion , war, blood, passion, love and along the way, the blood, the fears, and all that have been removed, all blood fears , vampires , werewolves. And you don't fall and sasmita? Well , what am I , the screen internally under Explorer , there are images from the past and here you can see the problem that has led. And even if you now think that you all remember and even the child, then the Conductor is reminded that only parents can remember, checked)))
START to work and not to talk myself out of that will not help , will not work. Do not put yourself in the position of the victim. By the way....this is also a way to have advantage and manipulate others, Oh, such techniques a lot. And it's simple. Put yourself in the position of the victim in front of family and friends and forward. And the love and care and datasetmainpageservlet and anything you wish.....There are benefits, but the happiness and freedom of will, dependence on his own position.

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Re: Help to overcome fear!

Post by Константинос » Tue May 31, 2016 18:15

So tell byaku, there is nothing to hold it in :(
So I wrote, I'd be listening to rum, began to carry out experimentally what was described above under meditation music, all done on the "letter of the Law", began to eat sour cream and wildest panic attack. Yes, what is :(
The desire is certainly there, otherwise I would go and whine that I feel bad, but started to try this method. However, I see a clear desire to sell product. Apparently you do not understand the situation? If I have a question for the money transfer was not serious would already have problems sanata complex, and anyone not "doing brain". Time is priceless as the experience of the forum. The problem its I disk see clearly. But how to overwrite so as not climbed the "cattle" - that is the question.

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Re: Help to overcome fear!

Post by Иван Славов » Wed Jun 01, 2016 11:43

you can dig into psychology my whole life trying to dig out these blocks and you can do the energy, to do these exercises and units will come out themselves
it is not correct to give the source. :?

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Re: Help to overcome fear!

Post by Рита С » Thu Jun 02, 2016 15:20

KonstantinosI choked on an Apple, after reading this topic. What the ...?
Be careful!

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Re: Help to overcome fear!

Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Thu Jun 02, 2016 15:48

Рита С wrote:KonstantinosI choked on an Apple, after reading this topic. What the ...?
Be careful!
Attunement ,and just. Suspiciousness may also jorki to put on condition. by the way a hypochondriac so other people's fears and scare yourself, not poimena personal experience ....already afraid. Fear is the worst emotion))) ,the release of adrenaline into the bloodstream. Maybe those who are afraid , just hooked on adrenaline? Risk-takers are specifically looking for adventures for adrenaline. Excessive production of adrenaline and also harm the endocrine system and especially the adrenal glands.
But the most ridiculous and stupid is the fact that cowards often survive than heroes. Why?)))) Because of the adrenaline in the blood exceeds the norm and contributing to emergency situations to resolve instantly the challenges and when wound, for example, recover quickly, increases the immunity and wound healing.

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Re: Help to overcome fear!

Post by Константинос » Thu Jun 02, 2016 17:14

yesterday I choked on an Apple, after reading this topic. What the ...?
:? Yes I am.
But the funny and stupid is that cowards often survive than heroes.
That is, I'm a coward for it?

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Re: Help to overcome fear!

Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Fri Jun 03, 2016 0:54

Konstantinoswell, I have not written))))) You wrote that fears you)))) well, the fears of one? Them as the common people called? You called the topic because I'm not , mind you. There are many reasons to have fear. Well, here I am, but despite my sometimes militancy , fear, and how . And not for myself often, although in my childhood were afraid of the dark , the dead , the serpent. But you have to live and have kids.... And for myself I have no time to be afraid))))) itself as it takes on a different plan. And the fear was not for himself, but I'll work because...... happened. How to feed the children , grow. This gave the incentive to get out of fear itself. Decided to find a way. I found randomly. Find yourself a incentive . And stop feeling sorry for yourself . Even if you really want. I remember my fear of water was not time situevina from past lives related to water. The Inquisition was drowned on the subject , not the witch you? )))) but drowned the neighbor is smaller than me , on the river, and there we were all 5 and up to 10 years. Adult fiction. Had to go and not know how. And did not know how. Chef taught))) suggested, as needed, and tried to swim. Overcame fear and not for himself . Maybe you should start to care about someone? Although.... I think you don't care and you will be. Didn't mean to offend, trying to figure out what want to do in your situation? There are many reasons can be and no one can not guess. By the way ask Patrushev Andrey Council. He has a session type to overcome fear of driving. Well, actually overcoming fear after all... no matter what

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Re: Help to overcome fear!

Post by Константинос » Fri Jun 03, 2016 1:03

I wrote that I would be glad to listen to Council from Andrew Patrushev. But apparently he did not know about this topic. However, I personally don't know how to get in touch with him, alas. But that's not the point. I'm working with what gave the novel. At least not without the fear that started to eat soup with greens. But everything else with wild fear :( Yes, and I am afraid that I have so many memories to all of them to spend on mashing. Still think the possibility of technical mashing would have been faster, but I can't afford :ap Though there is the Wheel of Time (the program), but nobody posted about it here.

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Re: Help to overcome fear!

Post by мимоходом » Fri Jun 03, 2016 1:18

There is such a thing as a private message ))) the Most simple and quick way. If you overcome your fear of authority.

Seems that you not only want to solve the problem, as you want to enjoy it.

thank you ))
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Re: Help to overcome fear!

Post by Константинос » Fri Jun 03, 2016 1:26

So as I can't find it. Give a link, please. Of course I want to find a solution. I started according to the method of the Novel, of course the result is almost zero but still. And besides, I downloaded the book Goloshchapov, A.V., Anxiety, fear and panic attacks. Any opinions?

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Re: Help to overcome fear!

Post by Борис МХ » Fri Jun 03, 2016 1:26

Константинос wrote: I will be glad to listen to Council from Andrew Patrushev. However, I personally don't know how to get in touch with him, alas.
So ask the question in the appropriate topic viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1294 in a personal email. Label like, in General. This is necessary in the first place, not him

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Re: Help to overcome fear!

Post by Константинос » Fri Jun 03, 2016 1:28

I didn't even see this link, thank you.

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