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Here you see what may be the case, in the cluster of planets at the time of birth. Orthodox born under a Virgo man can be a Sagittarius. Still, the woman often look at the moon, man on the Sun, already it turns out that mostly people behavioral is more consistent with his Lunar sign. Affirmative form there can be when learning all together. Just You have some not repeatable ease, or maybe it's fluidityЛИЛИЯ-Р wrote:No! )))
http://astro-online.ru/natal.html
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Just... Lily - it's not exactly the common man in the General sense )))
And what about the Natal chart is an interesting thing. If they are tied exclusively to planetary cycles, for example Sagittarius - 9 sign after the spring equinox... then a Natal chart have a right to be. And the zodiac sign Sagittarius is in fact a reference to a one-year cycle of the planet and not the sky.
But if the Natal chart determines the physical passage of the Sun through the constellations of the physical... It is because of the phenomenon of the precession of the sky already very ran. Nowadays, because of precession, the Sun is at the same time and in the constellation of Sagittarius and in the sign of Sagittarius only from 18 to 21 December. That is, the physical sun is in the area of the constellation Sagittarius in the sky - only from the 18th of December. And all who had the Scorpions. Well and, accordingly, all characters are shifted out.
If true the first paragraph - that astrology relies solely on planetary cycles on the calendar. But not the physical sky.
But if astrology is based on the sky and the stars... Then there's all the date very much moved by almost a month )) because of the precession, as nobody had corrected astrology since the horoscope when fixing the sky with him coincide
And what about the Natal chart is an interesting thing. If they are tied exclusively to planetary cycles, for example Sagittarius - 9 sign after the spring equinox... then a Natal chart have a right to be. And the zodiac sign Sagittarius is in fact a reference to a one-year cycle of the planet and not the sky.
But if the Natal chart determines the physical passage of the Sun through the constellations of the physical... It is because of the phenomenon of the precession of the sky already very ran. Nowadays, because of precession, the Sun is at the same time and in the constellation of Sagittarius and in the sign of Sagittarius only from 18 to 21 December. That is, the physical sun is in the area of the constellation Sagittarius in the sky - only from the 18th of December. And all who had the Scorpions. Well and, accordingly, all characters are shifted out.
If true the first paragraph - that astrology relies solely on planetary cycles on the calendar. But not the physical sky.
But if astrology is based on the sky and the stars... Then there's all the date very much moved by almost a month )) because of the precession, as nobody had corrected astrology since the horoscope when fixing the sky with him coincide
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It would be interesting to understand - and is something the basis of astrology in General.
If you look at the planetary (one-year) cycle, in principle, it is logical that at the same time of year approximately the same average temperature, humidity, height of the sun above the horizon, number of lights and so on... the Same conditions of the birth and maturation of a person in a single period. That is, a calendar based astrology - in principle can make sense.
But a star-based astrology can also have the meaning, if you enter an imaginary unfounded assumption that different parts of the cosmos to the earth through the sun, people are born. And if areas of space are different - and people are different. Also speculative is quite logical.
So how to interpret the astrology calendar or the stars. In the latter case, it turns out, all astrology is distorted and shifted
If you look at the planetary (one-year) cycle, in principle, it is logical that at the same time of year approximately the same average temperature, humidity, height of the sun above the horizon, number of lights and so on... the Same conditions of the birth and maturation of a person in a single period. That is, a calendar based astrology - in principle can make sense.
But a star-based astrology can also have the meaning, if you enter an imaginary unfounded assumption that different parts of the cosmos to the earth through the sun, people are born. And if areas of space are different - and people are different. Also speculative is quite logical.
So how to interpret the astrology calendar or the stars. In the latter case, it turns out, all astrology is distorted and shifted
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In principle, not bad made
Each zodiac sign is a - 1. special state of matter, 2. the characteristic form of motion and 3. the appropriate type of consciousness or self. These three - matter, motion, and consciousness correspond to each other and are identical. They are also corellate fundamental separation I NEA and the relationship between them. Life creations comes from I is both other forms, and on this fact are based all the laws of astrology. Planetary spirits or minds show in their many entities or mediators of different States of consciousness. The signs of the zodiac are their many combinations of forms of matter in motion in which there is consciousness.
Yes, but not exclusively, cycles, astrology, in particular esoteric, helps in the process of theoretical knowledge of the unity of all things including macro and micro cosmos.мимоходом wrote:If true the first paragraph - that astrology relies solely on planetary cycles
Each zodiac sign is a - 1. special state of matter, 2. the characteristic form of motion and 3. the appropriate type of consciousness or self. These three - matter, motion, and consciousness correspond to each other and are identical. They are also corellate fundamental separation I NEA and the relationship between them. Life creations comes from I is both other forms, and on this fact are based all the laws of astrology. Planetary spirits or minds show in their many entities or mediators of different States of consciousness. The signs of the zodiac are their many combinations of forms of matter in motion in which there is consciousness.
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There are already more than astronomy, but also an interesting thing where only so many brains to pickмимоходом wrote:If you look at the planetary (one-year) cycle, in principle, it is logical that at the same time of year approximately the same average temperature, humidity, height of the sun above the horizon, number of lights and so on... the Same conditions of the birth and maturation of a person in a single period. That is, a calendar based astrology - in principle can make sense.
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Egregore is not choose. Selects the egregore.
Occult saying
In life, each person is associated with multiple egregors of family, school, organization where he works, his nation and his state and many others, which he often has no idea. In addition, each person has their personal egoic egregor, who was watching him personally. The person who serves the egoic egregor more than it is in its environment, is considered to be surrounded by selfish.
The man, an employee egregor does not feel it as self-inflicted violence. It seems that he's just made that way, so-and-so interesting and so-and-so wants to do. If it has good channel to the egregore of her family, her interests they perceived as their own, he tries not out of duty, but by the direct impulse. Each egregor radiates energy and information flows (i.e. mental energy) on certain natural frequencies, so it is perceived not all people, but only those who have it configured. The meaning of all the processes of education and training just consists of configuring the pupil on a wave of one or another egregor. Trained, people can tune into this egregore and to think, feel and act under his direction; and the occultist would say that such a person opened a channel to the egregore. So begin to speak, to love, to write poetry or to do science.
People, on the one hand, has a certain freedom in the choice of thought forms: it can study mathematics, physics or biology, go to teach civics in school or to go to a geological expedition. However, quite quickly discover that not all egregores are equally accessible: one of the objects and pursuits he has "abilities", that is, the connection to the corresponding egregors is easy, but to others, that is their word, not difficult to access. And this is no accident. In reality every person is born with a specific programme, a set of karmic challenges, and a list of egregors, which he should serve. Appropriate channels open to it since birth (or open themselves in the first collision with the egregore). The person who finds your (karmically destined) egregore, feels happy, and as hard as it was the circumstances of his life, he feels in life, that is, in the evolutionary stream. In psychology this is called self-actualization - a feeling of self-realization.
If a person is not able to detect your egregor, he naturally tries to find a substitute and serves foreign egregors, in fact, being an immigrant, a stranger:
"And after a sedate crowd
To go, not sharing with her
Any General views, or passions."
A. Pushkin
What is it about me belongs to me? Philosophers, quoted in the epigraph, the answer is clear: nothing. However, it is necessary to understand. At first glance, there is still something my personal, though some of the thoughts and beliefs or actions. The principle of free will, accept to a greater or lesser degree by all religions and philosophies, assumes the existence of some "I" that this very freedom is there.
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Occult saying
In life, each person is associated with multiple egregors of family, school, organization where he works, his nation and his state and many others, which he often has no idea. In addition, each person has their personal egoic egregor, who was watching him personally. The person who serves the egoic egregor more than it is in its environment, is considered to be surrounded by selfish.
The man, an employee egregor does not feel it as self-inflicted violence. It seems that he's just made that way, so-and-so interesting and so-and-so wants to do. If it has good channel to the egregore of her family, her interests they perceived as their own, he tries not out of duty, but by the direct impulse. Each egregor radiates energy and information flows (i.e. mental energy) on certain natural frequencies, so it is perceived not all people, but only those who have it configured. The meaning of all the processes of education and training just consists of configuring the pupil on a wave of one or another egregor. Trained, people can tune into this egregore and to think, feel and act under his direction; and the occultist would say that such a person opened a channel to the egregore. So begin to speak, to love, to write poetry or to do science.
People, on the one hand, has a certain freedom in the choice of thought forms: it can study mathematics, physics or biology, go to teach civics in school or to go to a geological expedition. However, quite quickly discover that not all egregores are equally accessible: one of the objects and pursuits he has "abilities", that is, the connection to the corresponding egregors is easy, but to others, that is their word, not difficult to access. And this is no accident. In reality every person is born with a specific programme, a set of karmic challenges, and a list of egregors, which he should serve. Appropriate channels open to it since birth (or open themselves in the first collision with the egregore). The person who finds your (karmically destined) egregore, feels happy, and as hard as it was the circumstances of his life, he feels in life, that is, in the evolutionary stream. In psychology this is called self-actualization - a feeling of self-realization.
If a person is not able to detect your egregor, he naturally tries to find a substitute and serves foreign egregors, in fact, being an immigrant, a stranger:
"And after a sedate crowd
To go, not sharing with her
Any General views, or passions."
A. Pushkin
What is it about me belongs to me? Philosophers, quoted in the epigraph, the answer is clear: nothing. However, it is necessary to understand. At first glance, there is still something my personal, though some of the thoughts and beliefs or actions. The principle of free will, accept to a greater or lesser degree by all religions and philosophies, assumes the existence of some "I" that this very freedom is there.
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Yes the obnakovennye))) well, with pripadu troch))) And we there were always many there will be))мимоходом wrote:Just... Lily - it's not exactly the common man in the General sense )))
I here my friends say , pushing that they can not, it is not impossible. And actually ,they can, but they don't even realize that can . This happens a lot. But the patterns , yeah, they got to do is just interfere. It was said, netuti and not so . And no I can not)) And all just to afford to be, have and be aware of.
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Or Zmiennosc /I'm a Sagittarius, but before 18того Dec, ie Ophiuchus/.мимоходом wrote:That is, the physical sun is in the area of the constellation Sagittarius in the sky - only from the 18th of December. And all who had the Scorpions.
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Thus, the Executive power has the power of the egregore. A person with a large Executive power (MAG), has the power over the external world, but it's invisible. Really his will is embodied through the actions of the egregore that is perceived usually as "random" circumstances (for example, there is an impression that the person is "lucky").
In accordance with the extent of Executive power can be divided into three levels of freedom (in terms of thinking and feeling, that is, the mental and emotional life).
On the first level
On the second level
On the third level <
In accordance with the extent of Executive power can be divided into three levels of freedom (in terms of thinking and feeling, that is, the mental and emotional life).
On the first level
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I think the quote below answers Your question.Ахим wrote:by the Way, I am very interested in 'transition mechanism', well, let's call "spontaneous egregore" to another owner-Manager Manager like a little more competent in these things than the former/.
Of course, theoretically possible cases when the "levers" of the egregore seems to remain in the old Manager, but... actually - the doll
Something like a hostile takeover. But interestingly, the mechanism, of course, the General provisions.
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Who and what feeds the thought forms, the topic is interesting ) in itself! Appreciate the testimony of people now... according to recent observations grassroots egregorial layer is extremely induced... explain their understanding .Or should I say reminder, all sorts of talk shows? parasites leading to such base instincts ... sucked from the finger, the script, etc. And that's half the battle , worse at times when he was in an environment of low-frequency roughly speaking , you sketched then long to cough up the necessary.Slightly messy wrote