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About the real picture of the physical world

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 11:53
by РаМираШ
In General, in the modern world people believe that the picture of the physical world, which they accepted, which teaches adults - adolescents, is true.

However, this is generally not the case.

And this can be easily seen. Having the desire to. What happens, as my experience shows, is extremely rare.
And having even a minimum of knowledge about the structure of the physical world.

In General, all you need is just to understand the correct answer to the question of what type of motion is the motion of the Earth relative to the Sun?

Types of movement - three translational, rotational, vibrational.

Here, the correct answer to this question, actually - this answer is not mine, but another person:
"the Inquisitor

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Posted 22 April 2015 - 19:02

Laughing at nothing, gentlemen.

Of course, from the point of view of classical mechanics the motion of the Earth relative to the Sun is not rotational. The main feature of rotational motion - invariance of the distance of the rotating body from a straight line called axis of rotation. By and large, not even just the rotating body, and each point, then superimposed its own rotation of the Earth, which leads to a combination of movements.

If own Earth rotation neglected (which, incidentally, is not a simple rotational motion and complex, the so-called spherical, just the rate of precession and the amplitude of nutation are ignored for simplicity) and to consider is the movement around the Sun, from the point of view of classical physics we get nothing but forward movement..."


How so it has turned out?

Consider such cases.
1. Take the globe in his hands... and with him performed the movement around the table... in the center of which the candle is installed... rectangular... - ... on the ellipse with the same eccentricity as that of the motion of the Earth relative to the Sun.
The fact that the trajectory of the globe - an ellipse, not a circle... and do not count...

What type of movement in this case will be the motion of the globe?

Answer - rotational type of movement.

Only, here, the case does not correspond to the motion of the Earth relative to the Sun...
Because... - "change of seasons" while the globe is not happening...

2. Done the same, but when making a motion... the globe turns... so that he was always oriented in the reference frame of the candle constantly.

At the same time... the change of seasons around the globe will be... but this traffic... is a progressive type of movement...

And not rotational.

And as said the Inquisitor...

Well, about those "pens" that the Earth twist... in the so - called physics - not a word.

And from the verdict that the motion of the Earth relative to the Sun is not a movement of the rotational type, it follows that the explanation of rotation... - Sun - Earth, which is dedicated to the so-called physics - the so - called law of gravitation is by the interaction between the masses in a direct line between them... is an error, as specified by the law, and what is called the physics, in fact - antipatica.

Because she introduced... intentionally.

In General, it is clear that our predecessors, the real picture of the physical world - owned, but it was withdrawn from the minds of people, and instead it was varen - nonsense.
People, however, believe the truth.
Believing that the earth revolves around the Sun.

Well... if outlined... - understood and accepted... you can continue to discuss... and really, since -- - no, no and no trial...<

Re: About the real picture of the physical world

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 13:01
by мимоходом
If the reference point is to take the Sun, the Earth did not rotate around him, and just falls right on him. But the sun is too massive, heavily distorts the space of your mass and the Earth all the time misses. The curvature of space shown in the picture below and is recorded for example in the calculation of the satellite orbits

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If, however, as a starting point take the example of a nearby star, then the trajectory of the planets here such

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Nonsense nonsense, and the satellites are flying. About 1200 at the moment. And fly to other planets, taking account of the curvature of space ))

Re: About the real picture of the physical world

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 13:15
by РаМираШ
Here, the start-topic... - explanation.

About the type of motion of the Earth relative to the Sun.

Worldwide sell - nonsense, namely that this movement is a rotational type of movement.

And You have to sell.

And the same nonsense You are carrying.

From what the observer will choose a starting point - there will be no falling, no napadenie.

And to choose a reference point on the so-called principle of relativity... can you any.

For example... - relatively - washi Papochkin.

But not the one that lives next door to You... and the planet of the star Tau Ceti.

Anyway... Mr mayor... - Vysotsky... not recommend to deal... with tokitenku. Cattle. And reproduce by budding.

You never know... - fly... Boca mangled. For preaching nonsense.

Is the definition of the rotary type of motion.

"Inquisitor" - he was taken, determined the characteristics of the motion of the Earth relative to the Sun... compared... and made the verdict.

You - up lamps.
I have the same opinion as the Inquisitor.

The motion of the Earth relative to the Sun - rotary type movement or not?

Anyway... educational material about the types of motion studied in Russia - in the 7th grade.

This course is basic knowledge.

And without owning the basic knowledge to go into something more complex - will be a madhouse.

That is - everywhere.

So... the answer to the question please give.

Re: About the real picture of the physical world

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 13:23
by мимоходом
all are nonsense, all to Col )))

Re: About the real picture of the physical world

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 13:25
by Смелый
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Re: About the real picture of the physical world

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 13:29
by мимоходом
I remember in school science taught us that the change of seasons is due to the tilt of earth's axis, not Earth's orbit, which is nearly a perfect circle.

The rays of the sun falling at different angles, different reflections from the Earth's atmosphere. In General, the duration of daylight due to the tilt of the axis changes, which creates the difference of average temperatures. And this difference creates a current of winds and currents, that is, development ))

Re: About the real picture of the physical world

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 13:34
by РаМираШ
Смелый wrote:[youtube][/youtube]
Take a... globusi... attach it to a stick with one end... for the second end of the stick come from... - are straightforward and evenly... and spin globusi by stick - around myself... with one hand... the second candle bear... which he took from the table. - rectangular...

Spin globusi - at an angle to the horizon... the trajectory of globocica in a reference system linked to the runway of the airfield... that go-it will be the same as in the video.

What type of motion is this globocica?

Re: About the real picture of the physical world

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 13:34
by мимоходом
These arguments about deception, distortion of truth and so on... This is the tenth class somewhere. You can select an arbitrary starting point and build the unimaginable trajectory.

Here is the path of Venus relative to the Earth

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so Mars

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and so on. Reference points endlessly, endlessly trajectories. For practical calculations the selected heliocentric system in which the rotational movement. And in other reference systems progressively. And in the third vibrational.

But all the lessons I've been slacking off, so everyone around me fooled ((((

Re: About the real picture of the physical world

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 13:36
by РаМираШ
мимоходом wrote:I Remember in school science taught us that the change of seasons is due to the tilt of earth's axis, not Earth's orbit, which is nearly a perfect circle.

The rays of the sun falling at different angles, different reflections from the Earth's atmosphere. In General, the duration of daylight due to the tilt of the axis changes, which creates the difference of average temperatures. And this difference creates a current of winds and currents, that is, development ))
РаМираШ wrote:Actually... Vladimir Semenovich... - Vysotsky... not recommend to deal... with tokitenku. Cattle. And reproduce by budding.

You never know... - fly... Boca mangled. For preaching nonsense.

Is the definition of the rotary type of motion.

"Inquisitor" - he was taken, determined the characteristics of the motion of the Earth relative to the Sun... compared... and made the verdict.

You - up lamps.


So... the answer to the question please give.

Re: About the real picture of the physical world

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 13:37
by мимоходом
So... answer the question )))

Re: About the real picture of the physical world

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 13:37
by РаМираШ
мимоходом wrote:But I've been slacking off lessons, so everyone around me fooled ((((
Direct... are cheating yourself.

Re: About the real picture of the physical world

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 13:38
by РаМираШ
мимоходом wrote:So... the answer to the question given )))
Nonsense is not the answer.

Talking about how to give the correct answer.

az

Re: About the real picture of the physical world

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 13:43
by Смелый
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Re: About the real picture of the physical world

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 13:45
by Смелый
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Re: About the real picture of the physical world

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 13:47
by РаМираШ
Смелый wrote:[youtube][/youtube]
РаМираШ wrote:
Смелый wrote:[youtube][/youtube]
Take a... globusi... attach it to a stick with one end... for the second end of the stick come from... - are straightforward and evenly... and spin globusi by stick - around myself... with one hand... the second candle bear... which he took from the table. - rectangular...

Spin globusi - at an angle to the horizon... the trajectory of globocica in a reference system linked to the runway of the airfield... that go-it will be the same as in the video.

What type of motion is this globocica?

Re: About the real picture of the physical world

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 13:48
by РаМираШ
Смелый wrote:[youtube][/youtube]
РаМираШ wrote:
Смелый wrote:[youtube][/youtube]
Take a... globusi... attach it to a stick with one end... for the second end of the stick come from... - are straightforward and evenly... and spin globusi by stick - around myself... with one hand... the second candle bear... which he took from the table. - rectangular...

Spin globusi - at an angle to the horizon... the trajectory of globocica in a reference system linked to the runway of the airfield... that go-it will be the same as in the video.

What is this globocica?

Re: About the real picture of the physical world

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 13:49
by Смелый
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Re: About the real picture of the physical world

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 13:51
by РаМираШ
РаМираШ wrote:... Mr mayor... - Vysotsky... not recommend to deal... with tokitenku. Cattle. And reproduce by budding.

You never know... - fly... Boca mangled. For preaching nonsense.
And... Mr mayor... in the performance of his role of comrade Zheglov in the film "the meeting Place cannot be changed"... these words were spoken: "a Thief should sit in jail!"

:)

Re: About the real picture of the physical world

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 14:20
by РаМираШ
Now you're here, I... long time ago, so like... almost four years ago... this:
"Vick

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To enter into the real algorithms of physical interactions that are not dependent on our perception and technology that would step over the traditionally independent from the physiological characteristics, direction of thinking.

Otherwise, nothing to talk about.


So like in the 20th century scientists tovaristchi sighed heavily and threw up his hands - there's nowhere to go from the anthropic principle. Not given to us and will not be given "to look at the world objectively nechelovek look" just because we're human. Not gods, not demiurge, we are not outside the system called "the universe" are, and within it, constituting its integral part.
Basically, in my opinion, based on this, now there is one important task. Psychological. Still unresolved and that many more tit will pop: how to accept the fact that the objectivity of the opinion we don't, and not just to accept and not to fall into a stupor from this discovery, to abandon centuries of cultured perception of nature as "the tube with which the people of balasco, staying away from what is happening in the test tube"; as, moreover, painless, and productive, to abandon the ideas of man as "King of nature" and to accept the he foolish you snotty son of this nature, which is not the case in raspaltsovki before nature throw. As no regrets and even happy to abandon the "poprawianie down" on everything that is not "I, Homo, panimash, sapiens, the greatest super-duper senoguchi".

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somehow all of this... somehow..."


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And now... looking at this statement... evaluating the messages expressed above, but mine, of course... this idea I have... - a pleasure to deal with... super-duper... vsemoguschii poprawianie all down... Homo, panimash, sapience... Kings... wild... fingers fan appearing...

:aa<

Re: About the real picture of the physical world

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 19:10
by мимоходом
Cool you beat us, I still knocked out

Re: About the real picture of the physical world

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 19:11
by РаМираШ
Yeah, well... walking.

:)

Re: About the real picture of the physical world

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 19:35
by РаМираШ
Then... maybe... something... about tasty and healthy food?

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So... just in passing... to replace... the question about the multidimensionality of space the question about the type of motion of the Earth relative to the Sun...

By the way... the author of the video... you know since 2003, the year...

And he... he somehow... and not udelyaetsya...

But not the fact that Stephen believes that the Earth revolves around the Sun...

As Barack Obama...

Like the Pope...

Re: About the real picture of the physical world

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 19:38
by РаМираШ
Укроп wrote:Ramires No, dude, you really rock. I hope my message is not like yours :) And then doubt creeps in... :?
Yeah, well... doubts dispersed elementary...

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... Haloperidol, chlorpromazine.

Insulation.

Shock therapy.

NRP... by the stress head on a solid wall... after a strong run-up...

:(

Re: About the real picture of the physical world

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 19:42
by Укроп
Yeah, I see you helped :lol: Damn, why so substituted. Now you need to confess to go, I'm sober... 8)

Re: About the real picture of the physical world

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 19:52
by РаМираШ
Seriously?

Damn it!

And that is a good tool:

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az