Mental yoga.

[Лайси]

This topic in order to understand what a Forgiveness?what is this phenomenon, the process of where and to whom it is important?

What do You think, what is Forgiveness?

these are the words in the air, "I forgive you!"?
this acceptance of the situation as it is?
it is acceptance of the person with its individual characteristics?

Here's the situation...
... when I have wronged two personalities - each in their own way.
So I think - whether to forgive or not. More precisely, I don't think, since I had decided not to forgive - but to think about forgiveness as a phenomenon/direction.
...why can't I forgive? well, little did people decided not to be friends, why is it impossible to forgive?

And I wonder what the people may say about the meaning of this phenomenon - why we need it, what it does, etc.

[Новенький]

The word Forgiveness energy is release, and calming...a Very powerful thing...))) I do Not know the origins of where it can from Religion..But if I repeat I apologize ... I forgive Kolya,Petya, Vasya, .. for...and accept it for what it is! All negative, negative emotions (anger, resentment, pain, despair) will leave You and You can even forget the offender ie get rid of it...)))

[Лайси]

Well, you can say anything...say I'm sorry)))...I'm guessing you're New, confused the desired with the actual...hurt is feelings, and the people have no control over feelings...but...like...vyragosa to WORK with them it is possible...for example, to suppress)))...I rasprostranennoe phenomenon...))))

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For forgiveness you need to be prepared (one mechanical repetition of "I'm sorry" is not enough), and it's not easy. In Christian traditions the Catholics is the confession, the Orthodox repentance, if I confuse nothing, but that and the other needs the whole complex of cleansing rituals for awareness. And are you ready only a formality in the form isinternal (to the awareness and sincerity is far)...no?

[Новенький]

.resentment is a feeling, and people have no control over feelings...but...like...vyragosa to WORK with them it is possible to suppress, for example...)))...I rasprostranennoe phenomenon...))))

All free...))) Man the master of his feelings... if it is to apply forgiveness...can be suppressed, and can be cleansed of negativity.. Forgiveness..)))

[Новенький]

For the forgiveness you need to be prepared (one mechanical repetition of "I'm sorry" is not enough),

That's it, that simple rote repetition I forgive... I'm sorry... can you break free from the shackles...Just need a lot to repeat hundreds, maybe a thousand times!!!!

[Лайси]

Man is the master of his senses...

This is on what basis this statement - that person is the master of his feelings?...if so, why vaaaasche forgiveness?...he snapped his fingers...willpower...and now...you're not mad...or hurt...and finally...and sobstno who in the first place need to be forgiven?...the offender or the offended?

And Yes...even... emotions are CONTAGIOUS...both positive and negative emotions...like a virus...)))) the virus - whose the boss?

[Новенький]

We understand forgiveness differently..I understand the process of forgiveness is to free Yourself of negative emotions from anyone or anything...)) You probably understand it differently..)))

And Yes...even... emotions are CONTAGIOUS...both positive and negative emotions...like a virus...))))

Yes, if You are weak mentally, you will be infected with emotion like a virus...))) of the positive emotions, there is no need to defend...They are beautiful

[Лайси]

We understand forgiveness differently..I understand the process of forgiveness is to free Yourself of negative emotions from anyone or anything...)) You probably understand it differently..)))

If you approach this from a scientific point of view, then we'll start to look for the CAUSE...and the result was a situation in which...??? And will undoubtedly start or blame that often proishodit or praise, which is extremely rare...

The idea of this is to assess our response...reacted according to the rules and Charter of the life to which pricheslyayut yourself, so well done, reacted differently...definitely wrong ... here's the dilemma and the condition in which we makin...

Allegorically:...coincided puzzle with another puzzle in the form already done...and no matter whether this pals with other criteria...the main thing fell into place...and is not important a whole picture the whole picture...matter what was...then nachinautsa of misunderstandings, such as:...we have built and built....Geez, what do we set it and why damn it's Nada...and Kama???

Forgiveness is first understanding that we live in this life this is the FIRST TIME that we have panacea why, another thing we have a "forms and patterns, rules and laws under which...examples of previous generations who lived to a certain age -- the order and some of the method"...these restrictions and rule over us...

The second is the realization that all people, without exception, is just...foolish CHILDREN, ignorant and innocent in their ignorance children, who, because of their ignorance go unconscious due to his initial misunderstanding...these children accumulate with age, life experience...but this experience still not understanding this life, but only the skill to live this life...you have to SURVIVE...and what it means to LIVE, to BE, ESTIM...it's "a mystery"...

In consequence of these conditions, people react to life situations with the criteria nravitsa-nenravitsa, pleasant-unpleasant, want-nehochu...hence the appropriate reaction...he was born a child playing, a child died - not nravitsa...allegorically, it looks like this: - give the child a nice toy it cool, took this toy from a baby - so not cool...purely Detsky approach.

Children can't forgive...children can forget...then remember if to remind them that...then again, to forget...TO forgive, IT IS NOT VOOSCHE NIKAKOVA RELATIONSHIP.

I propose to reflect on this idea.

Yes, if You are weak mentally, you will be infected with emotion like a virus...)))

Here you are confusing dear...the mental is the third slim body...and the emotions 2 slim body...feeling, state, mood, emotions otnosatsa to the prerogative of 2 the subtle body...the mind, ideas, logical thinking is a function 3 of the mental body...and if you are strong emotionally and mentally weak...you're not in danger of being infected with an emotional virus...

From positive emotions there is no need to defend...They are beautiful

You forget that positive emotions are tiring and they also get tired...you can even check on their own experience...try sleaze, to laugh in full force the day, week, month...I'm not saying the year))))...and I look at you...I guess for you it will be fine))))) <

[Новенький]

I head to score philosophical doctrines which You have written will not...it's Your point of view)) I Sviatovit, read his books, work on His system..one of the steps he has is a block...sorry..)) I will Say one thing, after your pardon, I am calm, balanced, positive))) I'm the Master of your emotions!!! Without block forgiveness. I am a victim of emotions..

[Лайси]

I head to score philosophical doctrines which You have written will not

I understand you "New" your head is ALREADY crowded, philosophical doctrines but in other...you Sviatovit, read his books, working in His system...well in my head ALREADY...maybe it's not bad...at least without reproach...

I've been wondering......I want to ask specifically what you have New at this...tell me what you know...ERM...or not known about the meaning of confession?...what do you mean by such a word as repentance?

I will Say one thing, after your pardon, I am calm, balanced, positive))

I don't understand...after your pardon YOU?...or when you yourself has been forgiven?

I am the Master of my emotions!!!

Well, this is a hasty statement...

Without forgiveness. I am a victim of emotions..

It's difficult for me...some sort of philosophical doctrine which You are stuffed...no problem...it is your right...but the right block forgiveness. victim of emotions...it sounds like crazy...no?

[мимоходом]

Forgiveness is first understanding that we live in this present life FIRST TIME

And why the first and not the second? Or the first in this life, and not only once at all? From this conviction? There are arguments, facts, evidence?

[Лайси]

And why the first and not the second?

Do you remember past lives?...if not...then no court there...all from scratch...

Or first in this life, and not only once at all?

What difference does it make?...you don't remember...this is equivalent to the first time...no?

from this conviction? There are arguments, facts, evidence?

And there is the opposite evidence?

[мимоходом]

And there is the opposite evidence?

You brought this postulate as the chain of evidence to your theory about forgiveness (what it is, I could not understand, by the way).
That is, you put forward a topic for discussion. He expressed his opinion on the subject. Brought this neobosnovanny but firmly stated postulate. But it is not an established fact. The options are:

a) live first time in this life (your postulate, which involves a few lives, as is the word "this")
b) don't live for the first time in this life
C) live for the first time in all your lives
g) live for the only time in all your lives
d) do not live at all
e) live, but not we

In other words, your theory is what whatever it was, due to the unreasonable postulate, on which she was leaning, crumbling to dust.

But in General, I get the bigotry in your words. He is "so and not otherwise." But the information in the right channel didn't catch. Whether could not, whether it is not

[мимоходом]

As to the pardon itself - it causes biological current, which is felt by the body, skin, organs. You feel? It's a running motor, so to speak, in the manual mode.

[Лайси]

You brought this postulate as the chain of evidence to your theory about forgiveness

Evidence?...really?...is that what I proved?...WHO? I have a theory about forgiveness?...WHAT?

what it is, I could not understand, by the way

I can't...you can't...how could I prove it?

so you brought a topic for discussion.

Absolutely true...

Expressed his opinion on the subject.

Where?...show?...what is my opinion?

Brought this neobosnovanny but firmly stated postulate.

Firmly stated postulate? ....um....mmm...you reproach me may be categorical?....I have something you really bad you know?

But it is not an established fact.

Who?...the postulate?...I'm about to postulate something not quite sure... and you have the facts?...with what you have?

a) live first time in this life (your postulate, which involves a few lives, as is the word "this")

Well...let it be a postulate...but where you saw the hardness and I set a fact?

I'd love to hear you...if you are first time live...

b) don't live for the first time in this life

Like this?...Lope lives in this life?

in) live first time in all your lives

Well the horseradish radish is not sweeter...no?))))

g) live for the only time in all your lives
d) do not live at all
e) live, but not we

WE - not us... do not live at all - why?

in Other words, your theory is what whatever it was, due to the unreasonable postulate, on which she was leaning, crumbling to dust.

You yourself is afraid of his own death?...no?

But in General, I get the bigotry in your words. He is "so and not otherwise." But the information in the right channel didn't catch. Whether could not, whether it is not

Do not despair...for something you get fanaticism, unreasonable postulate, categorically, not an established fact...well....uh....mmm information in the right direction is not caught, the topic is not have shown what forgiveness you do not understand...and so...all is well, beautiful Marquise, all is well, all Ho-ro-sho... (Paet)

You're looking at the finger, his gnarled, shape and purity...instead of having to look though a glimpse of where it points...

as to the pardon itself - it causes biological current, which is felt by the body, skin, organs.

You brought this obosnovanny, and solid postulate? ...it is an established fact? The possible options???...no? <

[мимоходом]

I have a theory about forgiveness?...WHAT?

Where?...show?...what is my opinion?

Below quoted your opinion on this topic

Forgiveness is first understanding that we live in this life this is the FIRST TIME that we have panacea why, another thing we have a "forms and patterns, rules and laws under which...examples of previous generations who lived to a certain age -- the order and some of the method"...these restrictions and rule over us...

The second is the realization that all people, without exception, is just...foolish CHILDREN, ignorant and innocent in their ignorance children, who, because of their ignorance go unconscious due to his initial misunderstanding...these children accumulate with age, life experience...but this experience still not understanding this life, but only the skill to live this life...you have to SURVIVE...and what it means to LIVE, to BE, ESTIM...it's "a mystery"...

In consequence of these conditions, people react to life situations with the criteria nravitsa-nenravitsa, pleasant-unpleasant, want-nehochu...hence the appropriate reaction...he was born a child playing, a child died - not nravitsa...allegorically, it looks like this: - give the child a nice toy it cool, took this toy from a baby - so not cool...purely Detsky approach.

Children can't forgive...children can forget...then remember if to remind them that...then again, to forget...TO forgive, IT IS NOT VOOSCHE NIKAKOVA RELATIONSHIP.

I propose to reflect on this idea.

If you do not remember what you wrote a few minutes ago - it can be a problem with short-term memory. It can be dangerous for health and it makes sense to go to a neurologist.

You brought this obosnovanny, and solid postulate? ...it is an established fact? The possible options???...no?

In this case, the established fact, Yes. But if you do not feel - do not worry, just listen to what you say<

[Лайси]

If you do not remember what you wrote a few minutes ago - it can be a problem with short-term memory. It can be dangerous for health and it makes sense to go to a neurologist.

I will consider your opinion...

Forgiveness is first understanding that we live in this life this is the FIRST TIME that we have panacea why, another thing we have a "forms and patterns, rules and laws under which...examples of previous generations who lived to a certain age -- the order and some of the method"...these restrictions and rule over us...

The second is the realization that all people, without exception, is just...foolish CHILDREN, ignorant and innocent in their ignorance children, who, because of their ignorance go unconscious due to his initial misunderstanding...these children accumulate with age, life experience...but this experience still not understanding this life, but only the skill to live this life...you have to SURVIVE...and what it means to LIVE, to BE, ESTIM...it's "a mystery"...

In this case, the established fact, Yes. But if you do not feel - do not worry, just listen to what you say...

[мимоходом]

Clear and the point of this topic - it is not in order to share information. Under the mental yoga means "sex with the brains of a source", to say the least. Where is Laixi acts obviously wise Sensei who trains his disciples by asking pointless questions.

However, it looks like the behavior is immature and unstable man, a teenager even. Who does not understand what he wants, the kind of goal. Something like substance in the hole.

However, some people don't care how they look, how they behave, how served. This is a violation of integration into the society, socializacija, which provokes the perceived "permissiveness" of the Internet. Of course, in this case, we have a case of mild, just a lack of accountability for their words and lack of involvement of the neural layer in the path between the function of hearing and speech

[Лайси]

I'm not against your rates...although I'm not a mind reader that would like this..."offhandedly" to rasati what you said?...I thought when he said?...told you what I thought?...or you rashoditsya what is thought and what is said...)))))...and Yes, I have no answer...I need it or not...if it comes...then I decide...Yes or no...if not get it...and it interests me still...I update...in the meantime...in the title of this ping-pong table does not have amernia to clarify...is so...solid entertainment and nothing more...)))

Now on the topic...


Mistakes are as much a part of this world as a direct path...mistakes, it's natural...the reality...if you made a mistake - that is a given, what then to forgive someone or to forgive yourself?...what is the importance of such work?...people uchitsa...and esessno of osibisa...no?...and who can blame him?...the fact that he is ignorant?...but it is a reality

...the first time to live in this world...(maybe the code he lived, but this knowledge is erased from his memory...so everything is first and new, so like the first time... )...anyone who is not aware, ignorant...one the most severe trial...hehe then is the criterion of judgment is what?...what laws of suedeza?...when you consider that he has the right to be as he is...

Then why forgive?....and how to live without forgiveness?

[мимоходом]

as long as...continuous ball and more...

In other words, the irresponsibility and failure of an information ecology.

what then to forgive someone or to forgive yourself?...what is the importance of such work?...people uchitsa...and esessno of osibisa...no?...and who can blame him?...the fact that he is ignorant?

In the process of forgiveness and mental requests of forgiveness the other person plays no role. Though the stone, ask for forgiveness, it's all the same. It's just the working method of starting the circulation of a small circle of human energy that is felt physiologically. One of the topics I wrote in detail how, then briefly remind you that shivers down your spine - this is the beginning of the circulation current. Starts circulation in different ways, including from forgiveness/a request of me, that is mental and mental work with him. After when a person adapts to new conditions, it becomes natural, the circulation never stops and the person has, in principle, not offended.

In summary - it really work in practice method. One of dozens, but not supplanting, but supplementing.

[Лайси]

in Other words, the irresponsibility and failure of an information ecology.

You want to blame me?...blame of irresponsibility and disregard the information ecology?...well, it's your right...maybe for you...I am so and so... ...for me you understand...I can see what you do not understand you can not grasp, you kazhetsa...this is a normal phenomenon for you...and esessno to blame anyone, but not you...you don't give up, this is not told...that they are to blame...))))

In the process of forgiveness

And what is it...SPECIFICALLY...FORGIVENESS?...for what?...well, that would be what?...this matter of forgiveness, well, or need...in fact who is asking or the one who asks...and really there not to forgive?...and what will happen if you do not forgive?

Everyone here is so advanced....here you have such advanced needs forgiveness...and if needed, you...why is that?

[мимоходом]

I read you and see incoherent jumble of words.

About forgiveness, I explained deployed and available. About to strap intellect in 90 units. Do you have it below?

[Лайси]

read you and see incoherent jumble of words.

With many it happens...you are not the only blind in this cohort...well, what padelat...well not see you...deal with that, eh...

About forgiveness, I explained deployed and available.

The idea of forgiveness and repentance exist until not understood a very simple thing - we are all different and we have that right. Because neither the offense nor assaults another and yourself for what you do not match in some invented or imposed upon the images - there is no place....I have nothing to confess and repent, as the analysis and evaluation of his actions and Affairs of state occur almost immediately after they occurred. At the same time sought the reason is not correct, incorrect action...then what's the forgiveness?...and why?

My confession and my strict judgment before the most strict and knows everything about me judge! He knows all my intentions and overt and hidden, all my secret desires and innermost thoughts, actions and what I could do and did is judge me.

Here only the importance of honesty.

And the other does not need forgiveness...I don't need...but it is...then what?

Around for the strap of intelligence in 90 units. Do you have it below?

I'm not asking why you so blind?...you don't see enough...well, eh...)))

[мимоходом]

I, I, I, my, my, my... You really yourself completely name, as it should be: "my precious"

[Лайси]

I, I, I, my, my, my...

You prefer if I tell ya?...this is what will change?

Why do we need forgiveness? Besides the fact that forgiveness allows you to expand your ability to uzhivanie and make friends... People who know how to forgive sincerely and completely, obviously stronger and tougher than those of principle ....
But, the latter often in life achieve more because they "have a why". And for this, they consistently do and suffer things would not go resigned.

Yes...truly forgive...very complicated...it's not just throw the phrase - I'm sorry...nope...few people know how to forgive (and who can FORGIVE?)...the passing issue...I'm sorry...and to drown... then after five minutes, finally to forget the incident...and not you, and you...