SUPERDEALS

[Димонъ]

The theme is simple. Any magical(developing) the device( technology etc.) that I dealt with always had some BUT. For example-"not felt", "not working", etc. That can be attributed to not training of the operator that the resistance of the world, that the credulity of the operator ... Question. Has anyone seen, heard, has, knows how to make, where to buy the device operating in 100% of cases with any operator and on the claimed effects? The type of iron , stuck in the outlet,-heated, regardless of operator training . How could we not sought to develop(training of operator), all the same, everyone will be glad to have a device(amulet, etc.), which works as expected and repeat. Here for example, I don't need a car that will start when the stars slozhatsya needed . The car has to start from my key when I need it. I think this all will agree. So there is such a device in the technomagic?

[Ланцелот]

Can start to decide that for You is magic? The example of a car what is muddy.

[Дмитрий_999]

Dimon

I think 100% of these things there is another question how to find them? Further, even following the logic of your examples, anyway, everything comes down to consciousness (operator) – if a child is to trust the machine or the iron – it is clear that nothing good will come of it.

[Димитрий]

This device is certainly there!
IT'S YOUR BRAIN!
This is superdevice that was created for Your purposes on the Earth!

[Практик]

Dimitri

This device is certainly there!
IT'S YOUR BRAIN!

Support!
IMHO all devices work from that moment only you get a clear and detailed explanation of how they work from their manufacturers....
Moreover, these explanations need to be supported.
So in the case statement but not in device

[Ланцелот]

Dear PracticesYou smiley I forgot to put. I podumajut that it polnom seriousness.

[Практик]

Lancelot

Dear Practitioner, You smiley I forgot to put. I podumajut that it polnom seriousness

I am quite serious! Should probably clarify that by "works" I mean those qualities which are attributed to the device manufacturer.
Example:
I radionic radiates from Karl Yes, Yes, relatives got a little better feel like, I feel the same field around the device but any materializatsii intentions can not say!
Goals and incarnations almost gone
Why? Yes, because the branch radionicu no Karl (although the guy it's not exactly much of a talker)

Something you use? there are effects? if so Yu a Wellcome

[Смелый]

and any materializatsii intentions can not say!
Goals and incarnations almost gone

And don't get. The campaign, things are not so working.

[Ланцелот]

that what You use? there are effects? if so Yu a Wellcome

Sanjeevini, rendering all that matters to me.
Well, that clearly contradicts Your statement

IMHO all the devices work from that moment only you get a clear and detailed explanation of how they work from their manufacturers....

Give card, such a chamber, without naming what it does. Put on her palcic and in 5 minutes you need to give a description of what it does or where it helps to get well or something, these cards a lot.
Or my experience of manufacture of the pulsar from Logan. It doesn't work the way the author writes. People also agree with me.
An example can be cited. Or interested in something specific?

[Практик]

Lancelot

Sanjeevini

About it do not know

Give card, such a chamber, without naming what it does. Put on her palcic and in 5 minutes you need to give a description of what it does or where it helps to get well or something, these cards a lot.

Well, it probably happened because you since a long time and in a certain "theme"? I just don't know what direction you practice... the Card is so to speak a component of this direction, probably so
I think we adherents of Akademii Zolotov also there is not any questions to svetlice, everything is clear and everything works....

Or my experience of manufacture of the pulsar from Logan. It doesn't work the way the author writes. People also agree with me.

I have everything working Gud, stream feel ponmnyu that you wrote it... but I think on the forum of unreality did not understand you...(well I can be wrong a lot of reading )

Or are interested in something specific?

Of course, the specifics it's always interesting!
From my experience devices is:
-Pulsar Logan
-Pulsar Goldman
-Carl Radionic
-Orgone "stuff" that I bought something I did
-SP
-Well, all sorts of devices of the type Aniskina, unimodularity, quantum pendant etc.

So based on your experiences devices work some PTS as well-saturated "energy" but all the rest that claim the sellers advertising IMHO!

[Ланцелот]

IMHO all the devices work from that moment only you get a clear and detailed explanation of how they work from their manufacturers....

So based on your experiences devices work some PTS as well-saturated "energy" but all the rest that claim the sellers advertising IMHO!

Two contradictory IMHO.
Forgive me, but I'm not interested to discuss it.
Good luck!

[Димонъ]

Can start to decide that for You is magic? The example of a car what is muddy.

I mean repeat the expected result from the device, regardless of the proficiency of the operator. The car would start regardless of my emotional energy and the other States. Expected result-a NOTICEABLE change in the situation. Running the car is different from idle is certainly noticeable. I don't mean magic as such, but meant the device operating on the principles unconfirmed(denied) the modern "official science".

IMHO all the devices work from that moment only you get a clear and detailed explanation of how they work from their manufacturers....Moreover, these explanations need to be supported.So in the case statement but not in device

Walkie talkie walkie-talkie 500 years ago would be considered magic. But two way radios with batteries would work then, like now, until the batteries would not have sat down. Without any explanation from the point of view of science of those times. And it's not in the statement. Could then the peasants to talk. The radios do not care preparedness of the operator, the main thing is he said where necessary .

This device is certainly there!IT'S YOUR BRAIN! This is superdevice that was created for Your purposes on the Earth!

I do not argue. But we are talking about technical devices.

I radionic radiates from Karl Yes, Yes, relatives got a little better feel like, I feel the same field around the device but any materializatsii intentions can not say!Goals and incarnations almost neurochem? Yes, because the branch radionicu no Karl (although the guy it's not exactly much of a talker)

The fact of the matter is that "sort of". I рад5 four months. Work? Yes ...lights flash, the Manifesto ...also flashes. Field not feel. Goals. The goal is to maintain a stable(specified) number of orders. In the first month got what you wanted . Next three months has not received . Orders have always been around, but they are equally distributed among all market participants. The goal is to shift the probability so to avoid jobs involving all hands(to remove excess) and failures(to obtain additional) ended in failure . Raised proshlogodnie reports, the situation is a blueprint. So "could"is a coincidence. Raised and other goals, the result is the same. So either I am enchanted or in Conservatory something needs to be fixed. I think the point here is not the absence of Charles in the branch. I have a Samsung monitor is working fine, but the apartment is no Careca or Chinese no .
Allow the possibility that they do not. There are people who are in awe of Radionics, SP, etc. But it seems to me that these people and no devices have developed enough capabilities(skills) to get similar effects.
Return to the start of the topic. I would like to still know if there are any devices that operate regardless of training, personal skills and abilities (etc.) operator? Expected(as a statement) repeatable and noticeable to an untrained person?<

[alekss]

Support Of Dimona!
... FOR ANY science-based EXPERIENCE (including with the specified device)
CAN BE CALCULATED AND REPEATED many times WITH a GIVEN ACCURACY (and in the given conditions, razmeetsya (which must be specified in instrukcii to the device))!
If not, then the device = bullshit, and "theory" his work was a "legend"!

[Димонъ]

Not quite. For the deaf, radio useless. Although running. Rather, the question is: is there a magic hearing aid, running at 100%?
That is, a device that allows a trained operator to SEE the operation of the device and to obtain a result comparable with the result for the provisioned user. This is not the dream of a freebie, and the basic desire to fill(even with the help of a prosthesis, appliance, etc.) lack of personal skills. I understand that the circuit no spread, but can at least someone heard about such devices?

[к-13]

Yeah... That's right now, came running into the topic of experts and let's all share recipes of truly magic wand...
Any device that confidently and efficiently in any situation it requires a TRAINED operator. Here, excuse, the law of conservation of energy - "to the front stroke, back to licking," to get something, you need something to do... it is Clear that the universe is abundant, it is full of goodness for everyone, but inertia and laziness she does not like.
So freebies here too does not roll - free cheese only in a mousetrap and dreams)))

upd: the Preparation is not only about the theory and practice of working with the right instrument, but also the development of discipline - if you want the moral and psychological requirements, without compliance with which the product is dangerous for the lifestyles of others is the basic fuses of this world from the duroshlepy with magic wands...

[Практик]

Lancelot

Two contradictory IMHO.

Not for me!
The statement of the type "who has a lot of life energy the successful" PTS PTS away from reality!
Dimon
You pose specific questions, and are unlikely to get the answers(and not only on this forum but in General).
Out of it over the hill with radionomy from Karl knew more than 10 years and what is there is not a fountain!
As an example here on this site people are debating with the idea that radionic works well only when if you made it yourself http://www.berkanapath.com/forum/index.php Karla there is not particularly favor!

[Димонъ]

K-13, it's clear that experts will not be . And about the "safety valve of the magicians"(Castaneda) and discipline, is also clear. Free is not meant. If man made, traded, bought, etc. talking about freebies is not necessary(in the sense of possessing something). If a person uses dentures, is it a freebie? Any device, in fact, it's a prosthetic. I am a speech about the most effective prostheses. Although I understand that is unlikely to get what they want.
Practices about handmade, too, such thoughts were.
Thank you all for the answers. I think the topic died.

[Практик]

I Think the topic died.

I think so, As grit "is not a popular format in themes"
But if the device Carl "floating" then I think you can easily sell

[Димонъ]

Selling is not the problem, I think. Learn how to work properly.

[Практик]

Dimon

learn how to work properly.

Request as grit "for a million dollars"
Well, you do it:
-Watched broadcasts?
-The forum Karls asked?
Except Carl is another who advises people on eksplatatsii instruments(from the list of official representatives) Name can not remember now but the forum Karls they kind of are!
-Poprostu device to show people with "abilities" if there are any in the environment.
PS.
A little later(maybe) on the forum will lay out the correspondence with one of the experts on the Radionics(it turns out there are), it asks the devices of Charles...

[Смелый]

a Little later(maybe) on the forum will lay out the correspondence with one of the experts on the Radionics(it turns out there are), it asks the devices of Charles...

I communicated yesterday with the advanced person. It is about Radionics put it this way:
1. I don't see psychic energy working for the fulfillment of desires.
2. This device increases the personal power of the person.
3. Man with increased energy, desire (can, said can) be fulfilled or better or faster. Not always and not all happening.

[Практик]

Bold
Thank you for the post!
Actually this is what I was trying to convey... from my feelings.
Still I think you take into account that saturated the operator is not completely natural energy, Chi, prana, or something else(make a conclusion for example, comparing the thrill of the exercises QI "standing as a post" and Radionics)
And how it will affect the body(energy potential and natural potential) in the long term, XS?

[Смелый]

Bold
Thank you for the post!
Actually this is what I was trying to convey... from my feelings.
Still I think you take into account that saturated the operator is not completely natural energy, Chi, prana, or something else(make a conclusion for example, comparing the thrill of the exercises QI "standing as a post" and Radionics)
And how it will affect the body(energy potential and natural potential) in the long term, XS?

What impact - do not know. Just have a feeling that you lot are not satisfied in this life. And the feeling that time is not so much. So grab for all the experiment.
But in any case, given the rotten environment, quality of products and of life itself, the question of the effect - not worth it.
There is one issue - we must do something, something has changed in your life.
It was only later, after some yuzaniya devices come questions - and actually, what it is, what it gives you and why get nothing?
In the end, there is a strong belief. If all this works, then something in the approach to the use, right. The instructions for setting goals for radionica, there is a distinct haze.
I think very few people here using Radionics, which will say that they are regularly using the device what you want. Set a goal to have it to this date car, apartment, trip, etc. and exactly on time - got. Let me correct those who do it REGULARLY get.
But to blame the device makes no sense.
He is a worker.
I have thoughts on this topic, I'll play around a bit more and closer to the New Year to accomplish your goal. Simply type material. So that would still to the realization of some tangible goals. And submit all to the court of a respected community.