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Oh...and I have a dream that one of my sleep was recorded on video so I can Wake up to rate on the computer while drinking tea in the morning...

Кирилл113 wrote:Oh...and I have a dream that one of my sleep was recorded on video...

So in fact, six months ago on TV (in my opinion NTV-program) showed a photo of that one doctor did. It to the mask for scuba diving "prisobachit" f/Zenit camera and shot at a normal f/film , got pictures of some quite recognizable. Something published, but the interest of support in society is not found. In the late 80s it was, and went into trade. You should have with this inventor early to get acquainted, you see, we would also do this tea...

НиКолян wrote:It to the mask for scuba diving "prisobachit" f/Zenit camera and shot at a normal f/film , got pictures of some quite recognizable. Something published, but the interest of support in society is not found.

Somehow do not understand this. What, I wonder, were focused the camera?

Александр (разработчик) wrote:what, I wonder, were focused the camera?

On TV theory was not enough, but the idea was that if in the normal mode from the retina to the brain are transmitted El. impulses and the brain itself reconstructs the image, and the signals from the brain back to the retina also created a picture of some imaginary object, which renders the subject intensively. Focus on a point in the region of the center of the head behind the gases. F/camera at a distance of about 30cm from the face into conical tube attached to the mask. Film 250 IU.GOST and 400 IU color. More technical details can not remember. The program put instead of Kashpirovsky, who is "gone" from TV. It is difficult to navigate in the Russian programmes

НиКолян wrote:and the signals from the brain back to the retina also created a picture of some imaginary object, which renders the subject intensively

This is somehow illogical. If a person obtained from the retina data from both the camera matrix, processes by the brain, why the brain to pass back any data to retina? Which would then again get them back treatment? So he himself sent them there, but because they already have it. I think that the retina is still not a TV and not a monitor so the images play on the screen, she in fact just the opposite purpose. Yes if so, do people sleep with their eyes open, and the camera with flash photographing his retina, managed to make it through the pupil and lens of the lens? Questionable way, a little like me . As for images in the coffee grounds with a certain imagination, people always find their desired images, simply calling it a divination. I think that is a foolish idea, but in General the idea is quite interesting.

12 years professional working with photographs. On Soviet films had a lot of defects: bubbles, sarapin, clouds, particularly at Tasma... Then, when the restructuring happened, we came to the office once with a lecture given by a local psychic and the pictures shown, he made much the same way. There he was - and the transition to other dimensions and there are all sorts of suchnosti... But it was enough to cast a cursory glance at these pictures to see where there feet grow...

Александр (разработчик) wrote:So he himself had sent them there, but because they already have it. I think that the retina is still not a TV and not a monitor so the images play on the screen, she in fact just the opposite purpose.

The inventor was inspired to experiment some authoritative article that the tract of the optic nerve running the nerve impulses to the retina, though not for what. In the retina there are not only the "rods" and "cones" ,but other cells, the functions of which are known only tentatively. And yet, after all, the visual center is a part of the brain, but connected by a network of associative relationships with all other departments in CNS and optic protuberances formed image as a result of the mental activity of the entire brain. I.e. "picture" is formed and equally likely a direct method (matrix f/device), and also the opposite way that we imagine or can see "mind's eye". For the brain , it seems, there is no difference. A photo made without flash (the transfer was not mentioned), and because the sensitivity of the film, he sought the higher. And the shutter speed was not overnight, but tens of seconds of intense submission of any one of the images, i.e., visualization. As a result of the shooting was shown a recognizable image "moose in the meadow", although slightly blurred outlines. And the whole film can't be defective, though not eliminated, but the KODAK is still better. It is interesting once again to see this story

НиКолян wrote:As a result of the shooting was shown a recognizable image "moose in the meadow", although slightly blurred outlines.

And he sleep after the spill confirmed that he dreamed exactly what was in the photo? I understand that it is necessary to focus on the retina? I wonder just how to get a man to sleep with open eyes? In my opinion, in normal condition, without any sort of hypnosis, it is almost impossible. Or are there any simple and safe methods?

And another strange situation. Bright, rich sleep is most likely the REM phase, and how to focus on the retina when the eye is constantly moving back and forth. I saw it happen at sleeping is an unforgettable spectacle, especially the end of the process I liked .

"However, there is still the assumption"... that the eyes (as well as the ear) is an active body, it emits in a certain range and it is due to this draws around the holographic universe (as the laser onto the photographic plate). Probably forever this radiation is not an obstacle... in the late nineteenth century was received amazing clarity and colour colour photograph on b/W the plate. Prepared special plates with a fairly thick layer of transparent emulsion with a high content of silver. It was put in the camera obscura on a layer of mercury. As a result, when reflected from a layer of mercury in emulsion were formed standing waves and there was a flare layers. When illuminated by sunlight, due to the interference between layers on the disc was reproduced corresponding to the amazingly realistic picture in color (or light). The only downside - needed a lot of exposition.
Thus, if there is something like that for a better reproduction must comply with the following conditions:
- take a large enough photographic plate with a thick emulsion layer and a high content of silver;
- to consolidate the reflective screen;
find schizo with vivid hallucinations;
- to fasten him still head, and the sight plate;
- make it in some way (e.g., conditioned reflex) to imagine a particular hallucination...

By the way, long ago I once read in one article that some Italian using the idea of actively radiating to the ear created a method of recording and playback holophonics sound...

Here I see two problems that hinder the epitome of all that in life. First, such methods are good for lab but not for the end user who wants to immediately watch the finished photo files on the computer and sleep at the same time human. Second - if you think about it, why is this even necessary, just for fun? Or is there any practical sense?

Well, it's like basic research in science - meaning in 100 years will find...

Александр (разработчик) wrote:And he sleep after the spill confirmed that he dreamed exactly what was in the photo?

Lord! A little correct understanding, in my opinion.
The subject is NOT asleep, that I had specifically clarified from the beginning. He was awake relaxed and visualized a picture, or maybe before filming pictures, it is a few moments staring at the image with good contrast, wore a mask and looked into the lens...

Don't torture me, not I was,or rather not remember, but the story touched me too and therefore I remember.
As for the practical sense, the Italian Galvani in his experiments with the frog leg could hardly have foreseen that soon the entire civilization of planet Earth will not be able to do without electricity...
And in this case opens the possibility of direct communication via "brain-brain", and without language barriers and without evolutionary: cat, dog, monkey and man, but at the level of images, of course.
In my opinion this is a lot! By the way, if You've seen the movie about B. messing, it seems that it is partly, too, used this method: asked or forced to look him in the eyes (opening of the transmission channel - the Brain-Brain) and read someone else's intention or inspire his will.
So any tool to do this, it may very well be in the role of regular crutches for such training, and it's more than weapons, or am I wrong?

НиКолян wrote:And in this case opens the possibility of direct communication via "brain-brain", and without language barriers and without evolutionary: cat, dog, monkey and man, but at the level of images, of course.

In fact, there is a perception that verbal language is a kind of virus that gradually superseded the language of images, which was launched to the mankind specially to greatly reduce his power. And thanks to the mastery of the language of images is a weak primitive man could survive in the early stages of its development (in this ability he was stronger than all). Bekhterev together with Durov provdie successful experiments with animals, using imaginative suggestion. Durov (the famous trainer of the last century) method of training was built largely on the use of the language of images (he looked into the eyes of the animal and a clear idea of what it should do).
Dogs are very sensitive to this language (I suspect, like all pack and herd animals). I myself have experimented with them, and at large distances (without padeniya in the eye)...

Andrei Patrushev
I think that the transfer of images is not connected with what the dog sees a cartoon with the desired action on the retina of the person. In my opinion, is quite another. Besides, as I understand it, in all cases, the person is not sleeping. Yes, there are all sorts of occasions. For example, if two people very well know each other, then one medium of expression opinion can give another as much information about what now to do, that an outsider would take a long time to explain .

Андрей Патрушев wrote:terms and conditions:
- take a large enough photographic plate with a thick emulsion layer and a high content of silver;
- to consolidate the reflective screen;
find schizo with vivid hallucinations;
- to fasten him still head, and the sight plate;
- make it in some way (e.g., conditioned reflex) to imagine a particular hallucination...

I absolutely agree that a review of many of the "old" experiments (increase in sensitivity of photo materials in mercury vapor and properties of thin films) from the point of view of modern components - diffraction gratings in optical range and Eapow for registration of superweak luminescence , or even more modern tools, will help to make a breakthrough in awareness of themselves and their capabilities. Lucid Dreaming is a step in the right direction here and not so far to equate "obsession", "...specific hallucination..." and dreaming awake, which was used by Edison and Nikola Tesla, ahead of his time! Most importantly , I think that the approach was creative. In the end, the thirst for entertainment (here the space for business)- it costs failed art is not mine, but some of the classics said.

Андрей Патрушев wrote:Bekhterev together with Durov provdie successful experiments with animals, using imaginative suggestion.

Yes, I just didn't want to deviate from the REM phase of of this topic.
According to the version of the book. "Biological radio communication" one Kazhinskiy introduced this method of review (for a report on the money spent) I. V. Pavlov, but he refused, considering the enormity of the discovery. And Bekhterev appreciated that the opening of the exhibition dinner, i.e. privately, but it is also "gone", and his associates gave to each according to his Institute for further study

Андрей Патрушев wrote:Dogs are very sensitive to this language (I suspect, like all pack and herd animals). I myself have experimented with them, and at large distances (without padeniya in the eye)...

Yoga is also confirm that not only energy , but "Evolution" flows from the top down: Teacher--> student, Person - > dog/pet... /Hierarchy/
But for long distances I like the way the quartz tube, the mirror inside is better (as the energy of the pipe). Instead of a dog, you can use the image of the policeman/customs official/thug: put yourself in the "mirror tube", and drive by it

Александр (разработчик) wrote:I Think that the transfer of images is not connected with what the dog sees a cartoon with the desired action on the retina of the person. In my opinion, is quite another.

It is possible that this is the case when the dog "sees" with his inner eye, and for her, this hallucination is the same reality as direct vision (matrix f/unit), because formed in his own brain and of course triggers the relevant behavioral reflexes (its own idea-closer to the heart, even the dog).
And two people (especially the twins as extreme) successfully pass each other images through the overall Aura (in the end, the radiation Kirlian objective reality!), and individual Aura , in turn, connected with the Informational field of the Earth (vaguely say, a Noosphere ), respectively, and through him, with each brow (I apologize if You cringe my point of view, but as option). From which it follows that not only the twins, but any two or more brow can exchange information without words. Just one (twins) this channel of communication is more developed, while others are still not trying to understand , not to develop and use.
PS Pythagoras, was this school the transmission of secret knowledge to his disciples, completely without words, but it's ancient Chronicles.
A. David-Neel in the book "Mystics and magicians of Tibet" is also a mention of the use of this method in one of the monasteries . It is almost "our" time - the beginning of the last century.

Андрей Патрушев wrote:Actually, there is a perception that verbal language is a kind of virus that gradually superseded the language of images, which was launched to the mankind specially to significantly reduce its power

In order not to repeat the mistakes of the evolution of Atlantis?
So to speak, put our civilization in the corner for bad behavior , is not yet aware of their abilities?
Yes , it seems.