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Turbo-Gopher

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 23:21
by СергейДнепр
Want to hear a few reviews and the book and the methods it proposed! How effective are they? or is it ocenena pop book?

Re: Turbo Gopher

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 13:13
by Андрей Патрушев
СергейДнепр wrote:Want to hear a few reviews and the book and the methods it proposed! How effective are they? or is it ocenena pop book?
Type "turbosplit" in local search... :)

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 0:50
by Жека3000
The name of the methods speaks for itself IMHO
Turbosplit :lol:

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 0:59
by СергейДнепр
Why are you laughing? I read a lot of positive feedback, a technique very well known!

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:09
by Жека3000
Sergegna
Yes! I know I know! I have heard about it even 2 years or 3 ago. Confused by the fact that distributed for free.
Reviews also read. However the owner didn't even flip through, maybe, for the overall development and performance. Out Going enjoys and happy :)
But the name... :lol:
As you do not want to be Turboslim! :)

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:44
by Guest
Жека3000
you are still a child... :aa

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 13:29
by Жека3000
Гость wrote:you are still a child
ahaha! Child...
What is Yes! It's good!
Worse when not on years developed sebsta and boring!
I'm curious why You think so?
What kind of guests go? Come to visit, leaving their things and argue and forget "IMHO" to ascribe too. The labels of each can to cover up, deserved and undeserved. But who are you to decide and define?
And in General... a Guest! What makes You think that I will be interested to read Your unfounded opinion of me?
I do not think he are You a visionary? :lol:
To give any definition based on three or four lines napisannym on the forum is at least jumping to conclusions.
And yet, even if I am a child, for example! I still have time to grow and are not in a hurry to do it! But You were younger won't be able! And as You probably from the height of his age, can understand what "adulthood" is a point from which to begin fading, and youth is the path of ascension!

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 18:40
by Дождик
Жека3000
:lol:
you have answered all of your questions....................)))))))

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 20:18
by Жека3000
Rain
Дождик wrote:, you have answered all of your questions
If You are the questions in my post addressed to the Guest, actually it was supposed to!:)

Re: Turbo Gopher

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 0:50
by Артур888
Also interesting comments from experienced people of this forum about this system ? How effectively to work through the subconscious layers of negative plants? What security measures, not flooded yourself your own mud ?

Re: Turbo Gopher

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 0:52
by Артур888
How can I synthesize this technique with the SS of the 4th generation and BJ 2.0. and 2.1 ? After all, bracelets and SS do not work with the subconscious attitudes.

Re: Turbo Gopher

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:10
by Друид
This technique yourself you limit your chance (degree of freedom) of the subconscious. And it negates all the positive that it can be. I recommend to forget about it.

Re: Turbo Gopher

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:15
by к-13
Друид wrote:This technique yourself you limit your chance (degree of freedom) of the subconscious. And it negates all the positive that it can be. I recommend to forget about it.
In my opinion - it is exactly the opposite.

Re: Turbo Gopher

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 13:14
by Артур888
Друид wrote:This technique yourself you limit your chance (degree of freedom) of the subconscious. And it negates all the positive that it can be. I recommend to forget about it.
And how do you make thinking that ?

Re: Turbo Gopher

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 14:27
by Друид
Артур888 wrote:And how do you make thinking that ?
The main tool of this system are the "instructions to the subconscious". And these instructions and limit the wise subconscious mind, limiting=castrating him at the same time. And, instructions drawn up by means of words and words themselves can only partially describe "reality" (only one part of many facets, not even the whole face, and only its some part), and just not able to Express what happened (is happening). And even increasing the number of words, we just extend "described reality". And the subconscious mind, in its normal version, usually operates on many faces.

Re: Turbo Gopher

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 15:05
by к-13
Друид wrote:, the Main tool of this system are the "instructions to the subconscious". And these instructions and limit the wise subconscious mind, limiting=castrating him at the same time.
I think it is foolish to believe that any scribble can reshape the work of the wise subconscious - the user affect only the upper surface region of the unconscious, bordering on conscious - those are the most cluttered and ned to live normally or even interact "humanly" with your wise subconscious is only at the level of the animal, the psychological trauma and the memory of previous negative experiences... the Main objective of the TC is the clearing of blockages, freeing up space for normal interaction with this wise subconscious - the first step is a little more simple kind of the same of Castaneda recapitulation and nothing more.
And, instructions drawn up by means of words and words themselves can only partially describe "reality" (only one part of many facets, not even the whole face, and only its some part), and just not able to Express what happened (is happening).
Find the method more accurate and more versatile(not much harder, otherwise it makes no sense), people will thank You. The same images - it is also less informative and accurate way of programming...
And even increasing the number of words, we just extend "described reality". And the subconscious mind, in its normal version, usually operates on many faces.
After these words I would like to ask... is he a Druid, You know Turboslim or just superficially reviews reviewed? When in 2007 I first learned about this system, I was laughing almost to tears(it then the charge was already practiced, and I have at the time they are anything but disgust and laughter did not cause)... A couple of years, he tried(and talked to the people who actually tried, and the boasted communion to her in the purpose of self-promotion and bragging) and was very pleased that his first impression about her was built on the fact that I met a good system in the wrong place and hastily made conclusions only on the name and environment. Read "the Dawn of Aivaz" and "Invisible influence" Zivorad slavinskogo - many of these works are the basis of turbosplit. And the fact that Dmitry Leushkin chose this manner of presentation and the name - is to alienate such is inadequate as I was at that time(which form of content you can't see))))<

Re: Turbo Gopher

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 21:40
by Друид
Frankly, I do not set out to prove someone my point of view. Only available language to explain why I am against this technique. Draw conclusions only by title is of course silly. But it is possible to draw conclusions on the resonances of the system in General, which I did this later on remembered previous discussions of this technique, literate (in the subject) people who came around to the same conclusion. Yes, and even reading the wording, they seemed to me some sort of aggressive (harmful) and hard. But everyone will still go its own way. :)

Re: Turbo Gopher

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 0:49
by к-13
What we wanted to prove. Now it has become fashionable to talk about what a very superficial anatie, and hearsay...

System "turbo-suslik" is not for everyone suitable. There first few stages take up to six months, and they are essentially introductory, i.e., that only the platform is prepared for operation, without which no records of second and third level will not work is a study of emotional States(for three weeks working with the listing and underlying protocols no less), loss of polarity(the same amount of time on these lists, plus their personal in the process), the deactivation of the events of the past(with inventory lists - I like the way it was in the end more than 700 events a process Protocol can be no more than two dozen a day), the withdrawal charge from all of the people that I met during all the time that is available in memory(again with making a list, and there is some classmate/classmates/colleagues/co-workers/clients to thousands comes). We should also mention the recoil ever made manipulation of the subconscious, like a heard of affirmations(of which some have so much nakushite that it is often only by their conflicts produce a mountain of problems). That is at least six months of hard work with your notebook. And then still periodically unexamined relationships, events, people, and new ones appear constantly... not everyone have the patience for a couple of days, complete preparatory stage only a few units out of thousands - the rest are just scratching their network languages, or telling others how cool they are and how they all work, or what it all than a Scam and nothing works.
And the system works like a clock, it opens up almost limitless possibilities in the work. After the lists become a totally different person - you have clear reasons for your actions, fears, blocks, outbursts of emotion... And it is already half way to their complete control, that is, awareness.

You don't like working with words? This resource(I'm more than sure) the authority of such masters of speech as Johann Schultz(author of autogenic training), Emile Coue(who developed a method of psychotherapy and personal growth based on self-suggestion), Georgy Nikolayevich Sytin(author inscribed moods), Vladimir Mikhailovich Bekhterev, Milton Erickson and many others(there are many more, just those whose names I remember waking up), which had great results this one-sided method.

You are right. Everyone will still go its own way... if Only it really was a path, not an imitation...<

Re: Turbo Gopher

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:09
by Михаил_
Confirm the words of the Druid.
Not about "gopher".
All versions of the systems internal protocols provide experimentally recorded restrictions in the operation of proprietary algorithms of the subconscious.
There are specific examples. I'm not saying it is always and all such things are not effective and they should be avoided. Moreover, I believe that there is a huge mass of people who have such techniques turned out certain positive changes. But all things being equal will be much more useful to activate the free work mind the subconscious mind than it is to load a stack of algorithms and edit them then getting some problems.
While the reverse process and the perception of a person with a "boot" is somewhat limited. It is also specific people had so many times seen. The observation was made 10 times becomes an experimental fact. That does not exclude exceptions, but translates them into the category of a pun :) (just kidding, that phrase came out).
So to use this and similar techniques with bright effects.
But just my personal advice, especially when using tools like SS and especially BJ, like not to swim.
Because it is the way with great limitations, and its outstanding results are a great sign "brick" at the first mile of the journey.
With BJ it's NOT INTEGRATED. I.e. BJ is either a single algorithm, but only activates the subconscious mind, giving him great freedom flexible manifestations of mild cooperation with the consciousness.
But these methods try to limit the scope of the hard and primitive programs, effects which of course can someone impress, but they never are natural and then rested in a deadlock. I suspect that BJ will need to settle down a gopher protocols.
Further not participate in the discussion - there is no time.
Their opinion expressed. To argue with anyone not going.
The question studied, and even gave recommendations on the use of such techniques in extreme mode.... dismantled by people with many years of experience from my hidden resources details all the happenings and consequences, and as you can see none of the discussants in practice did not apply (apparently assessed the risks for themselves - like excess).
The one who would do something like sticks apparently just never have ideas about alternatives, which there are MANY.
Notice I did not criticize the method and don't deny that it works, but only show it to special issues. And not talking specifically about the "gopher", but the combination of such techniques.
Adiós :)<