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This message is for those who are lost and forgotten. Now do you believe in drives and other crap, and God is forgotten. Just Wake up.

Савл wrote: Now do you believe in drives and other crap

Yeah, and even worship them.

Савл wrote:and God have forgotten.

And you, judging by your nick, the Jewish God serve?

mdyayaya...circus

Well, gentlemen, the believers in the "CDs and other crap" , let's come up our religious holiday. I propose to declare Holy the day of the expulsion of the merchants mindmachine "Mirage" from our forum. Our faith must be pure!

Yes, and "Mirage" is not a true mindmachine!
True machine - Photosonix!

Damn, I forgot my sacred instrument InnerPulse laying right on the floor!
And sometimes I step on it! (trample feet):shock:
It is a sin? Patrushev I'll be punished?

Logik
Yes, in General them out and no one was banished. Just why to provide a commercial free platform for advertising? Even more so for advertising in such an ugly way, as a mass mailing to participants of our forum through private messages.

Oh,Dimasyou cult won't build! The basis of the cult - myths and legends!
I have started writing a legend for the future of the flock, and you ... all so prosaic... eh.

Logik
Well..forgive me for God's sake! won't do it again

Савл wrote:This message is for those who are lost and forgotten. Now do you believe in drives and other crap, and God is forgotten. Just Wake up.

It is not necessary to make CDs and mind machines idol.You can just use them.This does not prevent you to believe in anything.
Or God in whom you believe does not allow you to listen to CDs?

In my opinion MM machine only faith in God. In that make the mind purer, so to speak. Give peace of mind which is necessary for faith in a Higher power. Anyway a trained brain is the best tool for understanding God, and revealing his soul. Otherwise it is not faith in God, and stupid bigotry has nothing to do with spiritual development is not available.

Ашот wrote:In my opinion MM machine only faith in God. In that make the mind purer, so to speak. Give peace of mind which is necessary for faith in a Higher power. Anyway a trained brain is the best tool for understanding God, and revealing his soul. Otherwise it is not faith in God, and stupid bigotry has nothing to do with spiritual development is not available.

Fully support. Do not see any contradiction, discs just a tool, not a subject of faith or worship. Nothing prevents, for example, to pray the prayers listening to disc Focus — it just has to help them to gain a deeper focus on prayer.

By the way, the Vatican officially endorsed mindmachine original Teslar Watch in aid of the monks in prayer...

Purely IMHO, the topic is deeply mistaken... On your experience I would say - on the contrary, over time of self-discovery man recognizes his I-ka, and discs T. Patrusheva (God grant him mega summer ) for me is a kind of turbocapitalism... WITH MM the first time I felt the effect of deep meditation... by the Way, and monks what dobivayutsya? And to be honest, maybe I was somehow different look on Religion, but clearly my Faith is not exhausted in the Church I'm not sawing the brain szukam-girls "Mlyayayaya again pinned in skirts, and even Amazonia"...Can we reverse faster Wake up and someone is waiting to have him kicked? And it so happens that those who develop their mental abilities are sleeping? So the count, Ali to burn anyways!

Ashot! Respect to you! Totally agree with you! I can't be persuaded that there is a Supreme intelligence,namely God. I do not believe in Darwin and the big Bang theory! I recently watched a movie in which the experiments were carried out with random chemicals.So, nothing is contributed to the accidental development of life! And all learned people know! All experiments always led to the same-this can only create God! Even take the DNA of any organism! As such a matrix may eventually appear? Had an experience with the sphere in which there was a vacuum. It periodically appeared and disappeared electrons!

People don't believe in CDs, they trust the disks. That is nonsense what. The person believes that he will never see, and if seen and knows it, he begins to trust this. Faith and trust are two different things. The author is a fool. In General, in my opinion, to believe in God is also silly. How can you believe in something that never saw. Faith blinds the man, she prevents him to see what he's got on under your nose. Faith is based on the policy, another way to control a man. Someone said, can't remember who the Buddha was a great atheist, but the most divine.

In the belly of pregnant women talking two babies. One of them is a believer, another an unbeliever

Unbelieving baby: do You believe in life after birth?

Believer baby: Yes, of course. Everyone knows that life after birth exists. We are here to become strong enough and ready for what awaits us later.

The unbeliever baby: It is nonsense! No life after birth can not be! You can imagine how such life could look like?

Believer baby: I don't know all the details, but I believe that there will be more light, and that we may be, we do to walk and his mouth.

Unbelieving baby: What nonsense! It is impossible to walk by and there is a mouth! This is really funny! We have an umbilical cord that feeds us. You know, I want to tell you: there cannot be life after birth, because our lives – umbilical cord – is already too short.

Believer baby: I'm sure it's possible. Everything will be just a little different. It is possible to imagine.

Unbelieving baby: But there had never been back! Life just ends with birth. And in General, life is one big pain in the dark.

Believer baby: no, No! I don't know exactly how it will look is our life after birth, but in any case, we will see mother and she will take care of us.

Unbelieving baby: Mama? Do you believe in mom? And where is it located?

Believer baby: It is everywhere around us, we dwell in it and through it and move and live, without it we cannot exist.

Unbelieving baby: nonsense! I have not seen any mother, and so obvious that it is not.

Believer baby: I can Not agree with you. Because sometimes, when everything calms down, you can hear her sing and feel how she strokes our world. I firmly believe that our real life begins only after birth. And you?

The eternal debate... and everyone has their own answer...<

Alexander, great!

I read a lot of apologetics, but it even will copy itself!

Андрей Патрушев wrote:by the Way, the Vatican officially endorsed mindmachine original Teslar Watch in aid of the monks in prayer...

Linden!

And you, Andrew, Paul shined a call:
1 my Brethren! not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation,
2 for we all stumble in many ways. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, able also to bridle the whole body.
3 Now, we vlagen the bit in the horses mouth, that they may obey us, and we manage their whole body.
4 Behold also the ships, no matter how great they are and no matter how strong the winds rush, a very small rudder, wherever the pilot wants;
5 likewise the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Look, a little fire how great a lights!
6 And the tongue is fire, the embellishment of iniquity; the tongue in this position is set among our members, that defiles the whole body and wasplay the circle of life, being himself wasalaam from hell.
7 For every kind of beasts and birds, of reptiles and sea animals acromedia and tamed by the human nature,
8 and tame the tongue no man can: is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.
9 with it we bless our Lord and Father, and with it we curse people made in God's likeness.
10 Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing should not, my brethren, these things ought so to be.
11 doth one hole source sweet and bitter [water]?
12 can, my brethren, can a Fig tree bear olives, or a grapevine figs. Also, one source is not [can] to pour salt and sweet water.
13 who is Wise and understanding among you, prove it's actually a good conduct with meekness of wisdom.
14 But if in your heart you have bitter envying and strife, glory not, and lie not against the truth.
15 This is not wisdom descending from above but earthly, sensual, devilish,
16 for where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.
17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peace loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere.
18 the Fruit of righteousness is sown in the world those who keep peace.
(Jas.3)

So, I can call perfect? No? - read p. 1<

Saul
And You,I presume, preacher,or so...?

Saul,
that religious psychosis escalated? Sometimes...

Autumn in the yard.
The crazies - aggravation.

Saul
Tell me! What's the purpose? Well, whether You believe in God and believe! You made your choice, let others make their own!

You, by the way, all in one basket and throw God and religion and the personification of propagandirovat You religion - the Bible! You ask, faith in what exactly (of the above),in Your opinion, is destroying this forum.

Here, Жека3000there's you answer:
http://www.mindmachine.ru/viewtopic.php?p=36571#36571

Tell me! What's the purpose?

Will try to catch you by the collar (or other location) of the baby that will pop up on the road to the stream ruthless machines?

Савл wrote:'ll Try to catch you by the collar (or other location) of the baby that will pop up on the road in the ruthless flow of cars?

How you have a big sense of self-importance. You (Christians) it is called pride.
Here, you are not blind, bespokoinyi kittens, and reasonable people acting consciously.

The only thing you have mind is to quote the Bible. This eliminates the need to think for yourself.

Логик wrote:How you have a big sense of self-importance.

+1!

Логик wrote:Here you are not blind, bespokoinyi kittens, and reasonable people acting consciously

+100!

Жека3000 wrote:

Логик wrote:How you have a big sense of self-importance.

+1!

Логик wrote:Here you are not blind, bespokoinyi kittens, and reasonable people acting consciously

+100!

Et it is necessary, and! Each other show up and see! That's hilarious! I have been reading Castaneda and come about CDA to sculpt anywhere!

Or, how can you say to thy brother: brother! let me take the speck out of your eye, thyself not seeing the beam that is in thine own eye? Hypocrite! first remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye. (LK.6:42)

Anyway, I came here not to debate atheists (Hercules, Mlyn, Castaneda's ). One really chooses is the gift of God - freedom of choice.

Some of the believers like I used to, got here in error.
so call believers in God, those who are in the Church: Test yourself.

Савл wrote:Et it is necessary, and! Each other show up and see! That's hilarious! I have been reading Castaneda and come about CDA to sculpt anywhere!

You is amused? Weird! Inadequate response from You!

You laugh, but do not forget that You have to laugh at you can!

Do not understand the fanatical belief in the rightness of Your fantasies! And the obsession to get "the middle" of the swamp!