About the system Bronnikov
Freebies never sought . All I know I got the blood and sweat. On "the cube" there are good books that relate to the suggestion (to start ,read bull. He laid out the mechanisms of hypnosis and suggestion on the shelves.).
And Bronnikov and stand the same series as Norbekov . Trash! As if they didn't reklamirovat their methods are nothing new and revolutionary, they did not create . They gave the old , long before they known techniques , just put any mysticism, crap and any other nonsense .And now wad posing as academics academies non-existent or, at best, they founded academies . Reveal a little secret to register this Academy, many do not mind , go to tax and register a legal entity . It can be called even though the Rescue Fund of the Earth with the help of the Egyptian Pyramids.
Unfortunately, now these crooks a dime a dozen. These magicians , psychics, sorcerers, etc. People they are no good . Play the human belief in miracles.
And Bronnikov and stand the same series as Norbekov . Trash! As if they didn't reklamirovat their methods are nothing new and revolutionary, they did not create . They gave the old , long before they known techniques , just put any mysticism, crap and any other nonsense .And now wad posing as academics academies non-existent or, at best, they founded academies . Reveal a little secret to register this Academy, many do not mind , go to tax and register a legal entity . It can be called even though the Rescue Fund of the Earth with the help of the Egyptian Pyramids.
Unfortunately, now these crooks a dime a dozen. These magicians , psychics, sorcerers, etc. People they are no good . Play the human belief in miracles.
sonic
So I do not write that you have created. Just took ready-made and brought to normal view. For example, there are school textbook English - and there are Dragunkin. There are accounting Ponomareva is "accounting in 14 days". There is a textbook for high schools on the schedule is "Drawing on the right hemisphere of the brain" by Betty Edwards. Here and there the same in General knowledge. But if playing on the classic books I never mastered, here is doing on living and creative - I began to draw and to speak English, began at last to understand the accounting. The difference in efficiency from a book.
Similarly, there is the qigong - tons of books, semenarov, video courses. You need years to study with experienced coaches. And there Bronnikov. The same thing, but the results within 3-4 months. I would say it is very fast.
I have absolutely no difference as he calls himself let him at least "Academy psychic Teletubbies". I thing the result.
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Not so in the case of faith. There are several forums on Bronnikova, including Amateur, all people write that the system works. If I have a shred of doubt I'm not going to waste your time and money.
So I do not write that you have created. Just took ready-made and brought to normal view. For example, there are school textbook English - and there are Dragunkin. There are accounting Ponomareva is "accounting in 14 days". There is a textbook for high schools on the schedule is "Drawing on the right hemisphere of the brain" by Betty Edwards. Here and there the same in General knowledge. But if playing on the classic books I never mastered, here is doing on living and creative - I began to draw and to speak English, began at last to understand the accounting. The difference in efficiency from a book.
Similarly, there is the qigong - tons of books, semenarov, video courses. You need years to study with experienced coaches. And there Bronnikov. The same thing, but the results within 3-4 months. I would say it is very fast.
I have absolutely no difference as he calls himself let him at least "Academy psychic Teletubbies". I thing the result.
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Not so in the case of faith. There are several forums on Bronnikova, including Amateur, all people write that the system works. If I have a shred of doubt I'm not going to waste your time and money.
The effectiveness of the system Bronnikov documented not confirmed.
What people write about her positive feedback, too, can be explained. I would like to know how effective this system is . If in 90-100% of cases -it is super! If from 80 and below , it is a common statistic. Here we need systematic research. Bronnikov did not during the existence of their system. Of course he can complain about the machinations of the official science, on the enemies, etc. But so do all "mages" and similar audience. They earn money on the credulity of the people . And they ,Oh I don't want to lose my flock, making a profit. In the end , he could himself with his own money to conduct studies or to find a sponsor. But for some reason he still didn't. The usual pseudo-scientific Scam.
What people write about her positive feedback, too, can be explained. I would like to know how effective this system is . If in 90-100% of cases -it is super! If from 80 and below , it is a common statistic. Here we need systematic research. Bronnikov did not during the existence of their system. Of course he can complain about the machinations of the official science, on the enemies, etc. But so do all "mages" and similar audience. They earn money on the credulity of the people . And they ,Oh I don't want to lose my flock, making a profit. In the end , he could himself with his own money to conduct studies or to find a sponsor. But for some reason he still didn't. The usual pseudo-scientific Scam.
sonic
1. There is no negative feedback system Bronnikov, on any of the sites. That is, do not, can imagine.
2. Here you are in favor of qigong believe like. Do you know how effective is it? And if God forbid 80% and below, that do not? As well because the usual statistics and the need of a systematic study of qigong to carry out. Now believe that the effectiveness of qigong, not more than 40-80 per cent, as well, and Bronnikova, as indeed any system of training at all. It all depends on regularity of classes, abilities, fatigue, nutrition, fenders graphics and so on.
1. There is no negative feedback system Bronnikov, on any of the sites. That is, do not, can imagine.
2. Here you are in favor of qigong believe like. Do you know how effective is it? And if God forbid 80% and below, that do not? As well because the usual statistics and the need of a systematic study of qigong to carry out. Now believe that the effectiveness of qigong, not more than 40-80 per cent, as well, and Bronnikova, as indeed any system of training at all. It all depends on regularity of classes, abilities, fatigue, nutrition, fenders graphics and so on.
Karil, I am not an ardent supporter of qigong. Simply , this technique has been studied by different experts, which concluded that psihofiziologicheskie processes taking place during the lessons on the system in people who are regularly engaged in , and not from case to case. Ie people who are regularly engaged in efficiency of about 100%. From Bronnikova results unstable , i.e. today, 100% tomorrow 10 -20%. This variation can be explained but only from the point of view of statistics (a normal occurrence). If you looked closely forums Bronnikova, how many people have written that they are STABLE,every-day show results close to 100%?
Unfortunately, at the moment there is no ideal system that would give 100% result within a relatively short period of time. I recently ordered DreamStalker. Want to check out my theory. If possible, it will be Super, no - I'll keep thinking. Just say nothing to him, and similar stuff , it has nothing to do .I am ,if I may say, purely scientific interest.
Unfortunately, at the moment there is no ideal system that would give 100% result within a relatively short period of time. I recently ordered DreamStalker. Want to check out my theory. If possible, it will be Super, no - I'll keep thinking. Just say nothing to him, and similar stuff , it has nothing to do .I am ,if I may say, purely scientific interest.
Carilo, by themselves, Wasps don't interest me . I am interested in the REM phase. I would like to note , I'm interested not from the point of view of any "esotericism"and from a purely practical point of view. To be honest, at the time, I was fond of Castaneda, the Deir, even a "fancy" system like DFS. Anything except "suction cups", "vampires" , "other realnosti", subsidence of the floor in these systems no. Intimidation +mythologizing is a great tools for manipulating identity in the worst of its version.I've talked with people who called themselves "masters", "professors", "instructors" of these systems. They even showed different certifications that confirm their titles . The wretchedness of their knowledge , complacency visible to the naked eye. After that, I vowed not to communicate with such people and such "knowledge". All these systems are well-organized Scam.
sonic
I was also interested in. But I had some problems with the OS. Wasps was rare after them like a dusty bag hit, all day with a blunt head. And in the case of a good OS - a different consciousness. There is not I like I, but rather a child or animal that perceives the world and acts immediately, but can not plan or evaluate. So I fall and have to grab a branch. I understand that sleep, but I only have to stop and think to go according to the script, I immediately Wake up. One more thing - Wasps are very short - a minute or two. That is, if I planned to go for a spin and fall in a dream, it looks like. I realized that sleep - twisted, then went to the mirror looked at myself, went to the kitchen tried to fall and all the dream is over. Non-lucid dreams as long (exchanged a few words and looked around and all the following night), but at least the plot is so seem more intense. Plus dreams overlap each other and therefore a bit Dlinnaya. Wasps do not impose because Wake up, and the fact that they are rare, I already wrote.
In short, the practical application of these problems is not impossible in principle.
Bronnikov I was interested because I hope to learn how to be in Osoboe/polosovoi the condition of not falling asleep, just closing his eyes and starting to see guided imagery (picture-sensations-smells). So we probably want the same thing.
I was also interested in. But I had some problems with the OS. Wasps was rare after them like a dusty bag hit, all day with a blunt head. And in the case of a good OS - a different consciousness. There is not I like I, but rather a child or animal that perceives the world and acts immediately, but can not plan or evaluate. So I fall and have to grab a branch. I understand that sleep, but I only have to stop and think to go according to the script, I immediately Wake up. One more thing - Wasps are very short - a minute or two. That is, if I planned to go for a spin and fall in a dream, it looks like. I realized that sleep - twisted, then went to the mirror looked at myself, went to the kitchen tried to fall and all the dream is over. Non-lucid dreams as long (exchanged a few words and looked around and all the following night), but at least the plot is so seem more intense. Plus dreams overlap each other and therefore a bit Dlinnaya. Wasps do not impose because Wake up, and the fact that they are rare, I already wrote.
In short, the practical application of these problems is not impossible in principle.
Bronnikov I was interested because I hope to learn how to be in Osoboe/polosovoi the condition of not falling asleep, just closing his eyes and starting to see guided imagery (picture-sensations-smells). So we probably want the same thing.
Carilo,I don't know "burn out" my idea or not. Maybe you'll find that it's empty and has no benefit. I think I know the weak spot of Grimstalker and , in principle, what you describe is normal. In no other way can the majority of people . In order to get steady and stable Wasps some light and sound signals are clearly insufficient. It is necessary to introduce something else. I would think. About managed images can say the following. As far as I know, this can be achieved without the system Bronnikov, ispolzuya highest level of autogenic training. I think you should do it .
sonic
Maybe you need to look elsewhere. Today for example happened. Went to bed in the afternoon from 4 to 6. Before a week had not slept and was very tired. Pretty quickly fell asleep. And whether the room was cool, whether the street is noisy, but I got a few OS/Polesov. I saw the Internet pages from Safari and everything was so detailed, colorful and clear that it was possible even to read the text. However, as soon as I tried to read, the REM immediately gave way to a semi-slumber. So it was two times. This proves once again that energy and ability enough, even for a brief Wasps. But consciousness and as I can not manage. But I honestly have no idea how to learn it, but to try and try again and again.
About Bronnikov joke. I recently started to get better. Well I am going on the escalator and begin the bell to swing. The person above me on the step begins to get nervous and turn around. Several times already had. Or in a crowd of people stop to push and try to circumvent whenever possible, usually hurt. Well, maybe my face changed when I do a bell, but the escalator from the back I see.
Another point. Food tired on the bus, tired eyes droop. Decided to do the "heaviness-lightness" and voila. In the head freshened, and his eyes opened. Action as from Phenotropil. So just like that, without any chemicals, without coffee, just one imagination changed state. The truth is I have enough for 10-15 minutes. But still other techniques I this effect never received. From the same fit just a nervous condition, but not the vigor. From mindmachine, even from the beta sessions, if I'm tired, then fall asleep and all. And here on you - fresh. So you have nothing to Bronnikov swear. And it is a single workout, when I finally begin to engage in the group all the effects will increase significantly.
Maybe you need to look elsewhere. Today for example happened. Went to bed in the afternoon from 4 to 6. Before a week had not slept and was very tired. Pretty quickly fell asleep. And whether the room was cool, whether the street is noisy, but I got a few OS/Polesov. I saw the Internet pages from Safari and everything was so detailed, colorful and clear that it was possible even to read the text. However, as soon as I tried to read, the REM immediately gave way to a semi-slumber. So it was two times. This proves once again that energy and ability enough, even for a brief Wasps. But consciousness and as I can not manage. But I honestly have no idea how to learn it, but to try and try again and again.
About Bronnikov joke. I recently started to get better. Well I am going on the escalator and begin the bell to swing. The person above me on the step begins to get nervous and turn around. Several times already had. Or in a crowd of people stop to push and try to circumvent whenever possible, usually hurt. Well, maybe my face changed when I do a bell, but the escalator from the back I see.
Another point. Food tired on the bus, tired eyes droop. Decided to do the "heaviness-lightness" and voila. In the head freshened, and his eyes opened. Action as from Phenotropil. So just like that, without any chemicals, without coffee, just one imagination changed state. The truth is I have enough for 10-15 minutes. But still other techniques I this effect never received. From the same fit just a nervous condition, but not the vigor. From mindmachine, even from the beta sessions, if I'm tired, then fall asleep and all. And here on you - fresh. So you have nothing to Bronnikov swear. And it is a single workout, when I finally begin to engage in the group all the effects will increase significantly.
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Doctors know not. And unfamiliar in the first unchecked and the second of the money asked. Well pay you will get one OS so what's in it for me, then he will not learn.
Maybe I'm all rowing the same brush, but I think hypnosis is one of the variants of the OS. I've read about cases where during the OS image from the dream was superimposed on the picture from half-open eyes.
Doctors know not. And unfamiliar in the first unchecked and the second of the money asked. Well pay you will get one OS so what's in it for me, then he will not learn.
Maybe I'm all rowing the same brush, but I think hypnosis is one of the variants of the OS. I've read about cases where during the OS image from the dream was superimposed on the picture from half-open eyes.
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Carilo , the hypnotist might like to teach you giving the installation what would you enter a state according to their action is the key ... and out for example in 30 minutes !
probably had a spell on people ?
try it and you will have or magic item is the key in hypnosis or spell !!!
very interesting ... could you describe if possible ...
Yes, there is such technique the key ... used by special forces to survive and concatenati power ...
this type of self-hypnosis - autohipnoza or auditory training ?
probably had a spell on people ?
try it and you will have or magic item is the key in hypnosis or spell !!!
very interesting ... could you describe if possible ...
Yes, there is such technique the key ... used by special forces to survive and concatenati power ...
this type of self-hypnosis - autohipnoza or auditory training ?
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Carilo
Yes, the system Bronnikov good for the first year began to change in me and around me, and harmonious.
Respect and Zhong yuan Qigong, trying to practice... but it need a lot of self-organization (at least for me)... very noticeable effect of the physical body... and to practice meditation...
And great help from TSF, I would say - ambulance
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Yes, the system Bronnikov good for the first year began to change in me and around me, and harmonious.
Respect and Zhong yuan Qigong, trying to practice... but it need a lot of self-organization (at least for me)... very noticeable effect of the physical body... and to practice meditation...
And great help from TSF, I would say - ambulance
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armor , IMHO , is trying to build a computer on the gears ...
a lot easier and faster by faith ... strong faith creates in the brain an emotional pole and the purpose for internal cleansing and behavior ...
like people have kitten t have a need from the emotional poles of education .... but on the contrary Kotenok give birth to children in order to create such a pole ... or the child can create a pole of sadism ...
hypnosis isn't training ? too bad that with a sharp mismatch with the internal suggestible can go rejection ...
a lot easier and faster by faith ... strong faith creates in the brain an emotional pole and the purpose for internal cleansing and behavior ...
like people have kitten t have a need from the emotional poles of education .... but on the contrary Kotenok give birth to children in order to create such a pole ... or the child can create a pole of sadism ...
hypnosis isn't training ? too bad that with a sharp mismatch with the internal suggestible can go rejection ...
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Cariloif you have a success system Bronnikov is good. But don't forget the result should be about 100%. I can hardly imagine what a "bell pump" is and how it can affect the other person, keep going , this is interesting. but it may be that it was an accident or a coincidence. Therefore, there needs a systematic study. Imagine. how many people can be themselves something irritable or worried for any reason, and you were just at this time near them.The more Takao place as subway with its carrying sposobnostju. I think it is a simple statistic. Group classes, of course is more efficient because there will be a mutual suggestion to the members of the group.[/quote]
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if to continue your thought that love is the same as pedophilia ... the mechanism of one ?Anonymous wrote:WellГость wrote:a lot easier and faster by faith ... strong faith creates in the brain an emotional pole and the purpose for internal cleansing and behavior ...))
that's how sects for example
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sonic
Bell has no impact on the other person... it is very good for normalizing blood pressure... the other person might just not comfortable (somehow people can feel on a subconscious level), because the person develops a field is increased and compacted.
Carilo
try using say a year of classes to come to the club for a discotheque, even in the midst of the people, you will see how they unconsciously begin to part around you.
Bell has no impact on the other person... it is very good for normalizing blood pressure... the other person might just not comfortable (somehow people can feel on a subconscious level), because the person develops a field is increased and compacted.
Carilo
try using say a year of classes to come to the club for a discotheque, even in the midst of the people, you will see how they unconsciously begin to part around you.
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And You don't confuse faith and love
Гость wrote:Anonymous wrote(a):
Guest wrote(a):
a lot easier and faster by faith ... strong faith creates in the brain an emotional pole and the purpose for internal cleansing and behavior ...
Well Smile))
that's how sects for example Smile
if to continue your thought that love is the same as pedophilia ... the mechanism of one ?
And You don't confuse faith and love
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I'm not confuse I showed you all with the same brush ...Anonymous wrote:GuestГость wrote:Anonymous wrote(a):
Guest wrote(a):
a lot easier and faster by faith ... strong faith creates in the brain an emotional pole and the purpose for internal cleansing and behavior ...
Well Smile))
that's how sects for example Smile
if to continue your thought that love is the same as pedophilia ... the mechanism of one ?
And You don't confuse faith and love
From light bulb efficiency is not 100% and nothing, use.соник wrote:Cariloif you have a success system Bronnikov is good. But don't forget the result should be about 100%. I can hardly imagine what a "bell pump" is and how it can affect the other person, keep going , this is interesting. but it may be that it was an accident or a coincidence. Therefore, there needs a systematic study. Imagine. how many people can be themselves something irritable or worried for any reason, and you were just at this time near them.The more Takao place as subway with its carrying sposobnostju. I think it is a simple statistic. Group classes, of course is more efficient because there will be a mutual suggestion to the members of the group.
Chip Breenkova manifested in paired classes. One person works with another box. The second track experience. In the body objectively something is changing, so people in the subway and reacted to me. I not only rocked the bell, I did pumping standing above the stairs.
Can you clarify for me one question. For you the influence of one person on another or on plants it is a real fact or a matter of faith?
Karil, for me, the question of the impact of one person to another - a real fact. Take for example the learning process. Here process suggestion is obvious, when students are asked to accept some facts without logical analysis,when the facts just need to accept it, for example the rules of the Russian language.The suggestion presupposes the absence of any logical analysis on the part of the person directed suggestion. About the impact on plants I'm not gonna lie, I don't know. Read what kind of plants can respond to a person's mood and can react to women when they have "critical days", no more.Regarding faith , I can say the following. Faith is irrational by nature, BUT again the process of suggestion it plays a very important role.
If you get a chance , read the book N.In. Of Zeng ,Y. V. Pakhomov, " A Psych Eval. Games and exercises" . There is described a large number of paired and group sessions without any mysticism.
If you get a chance , read the book N.In. Of Zeng ,Y. V. Pakhomov, " A Psych Eval. Games and exercises" . There is described a large number of paired and group sessions without any mysticism.
sonic
"Like... you Can..." It's a fact - plants reagiruet thinking, react to the music or the water that "listened" to music. Respond to figure clichéd plastic with the logo "Svetlitsa-super".
Similarly, emotions, music and drawing effect upon the human energy-informational level, without the participation of consciousness.
"Like... you Can..." It's a fact - plants reagiruet thinking, react to the music or the water that "listened" to music. Respond to figure clichéd plastic with the logo "Svetlitsa-super".
Similarly, emotions, music and drawing effect upon the human energy-informational level, without the participation of consciousness.