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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 17:40
by Ильхом Т.
And another thing : anyone read the book "Happiness is freedom" by the same Gale Dvoskin ? I eyes walked quickly, there is sort of also applies to the Sedona Method. Is in my queue to read this year, along with Anatoly Tikhomirov("Juggernaut"), Larry Nims ("BSFF") and the Sedona Method, respectively. Worth reading or is there the same as in MS ?

P. S. On Cuba, this book is ...

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 17:53
by Dimas
Ilkhom T.
Very worth it!!!especially Larry Nims ("BSFF") and the Sedona Method, respectively :)

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 20:21
by Ильхом Т.
Hello, Dimas ! Like you on any forum (on this or not, I do not remember) wrote about the beginning of the practice of BSFF. How's it going ? How many are practicing ? What helped ? And if you don't mind, leave your ICQ number for faster correspondence here or send me a mail tirhome@inbox.uz - you need to consult with a practicing BSFF. Thanks in advance !

Or you can write me on ICQ 445806008...

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 23:13
by Dimas
Ilkhom T.
You know,on the one hand want to disappoint You,nothing intelligent to say about BSFF can not,as postponed studying at the time.I for the past 4 day 2 of the workshop, Philip M. (son Zivorad slavinskogo),he is now in Moscow before the end of the week.So,I took "equilibrium"-the use of technology modification of the experience to different aspects of life,that is, removing the negative charge from ANY life experience (the same goal is followed by a method Sedona as far as I know)...I also practiced Sedona,but to feel the release did not work too much,I can't seems correct to apply the technique,although for 3 weeks I went everywhere and asked yourself questions.Here, on the contrary-I really FEEL a few minutes of use of technology-like a stone off the shoulders,that is, the release happened and I PHYSICALLY felt,I even broke laughing uncontrollably at one of my studies,had to leave the auditorium,some on the contrary cried.In General, I am delighted,but as it turned out work cut out for me,I have so much in common...something to do.Yes,even held a "Spiritual choice",a technique that is considered the best in the world for setting and achieving goals,which is YOURS,and you will achieve the most harmonious for you and your entourage way technique as on the basis of the TMO.So there you have it, tomorrow purchased notebooks and pens and go! :ay :ay :ay :ay :ay :ay :ay
Oh yeah,why I wrote this...Some of the participants were professional processors and coaches,I asked them on the efficiency of certain techniques,in General, he said that the most powerful it is for emotional release in their opinion this is just TMO.
But I think that in the near future I'll try BSFF..I myself was wondering...

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:51
by ЖСЛ
Dimas wrote:although for 3 weeks I went everywhere and asked yourself questions.
what a nightmare, Gopher for three weeks - does the drain work :shock:

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:03
by Ильхом Т.
Dimas
And the only Equilibrium at the training or you can learn with just these steps, too ? Just no opportunity to go to training because I live not in Moscow and even not in Russia...

And th TMO ? Google only finds "Teoria Mwith Aboutotnoshenii"

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:25
by Dimas
Ilkhom T.
http://www.prostoyput.ru/seminars/sched ... april-2009
here view...
In principle, technical and very light,I think you can learn by yourself,but since it is human nature to complicate things, the training teaches you not to do it.Moreover, there is a lot of questions that the training will get answers.

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:59
by Ильхом Т.
The technique is certainly promising, but the question is : "How can you learn outside of training ?" Network no documents Obuasi this technique is not found ...

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 13:03
by Dimas
Ilkhom T.
And their network and no...of course you Can ask someone who owns this technique to help You in getting rid of certain problems, or even to help You to master the method itself,but certainly not for nothing :) 8)

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 13:27
by Ильхом Т.
Write to me in ICQ 445806008, please we need to talk...

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 13:32
by Dimas
Ilkhom T.
Write..))and silence))

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 13:37
by Ильхом Т.
I think the problem with the Jabberwock, in a moment answer ...

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 22:00
by Dimas
ЖСЛ wrote:
Dimas wrote:although for 3 weeks I went everywhere and asked yourself questions.
what a nightmare, Gopher for three weeks - does the drain work :shock:
Unfortunately does not.I, too, because nearly a month to read a play with it-zero effect,nothing felt.Talked recently with a fairly large number of people who used the TS-not a single positive comment I have not heard,although people did everything exactly by the book and even BOUGHT protocols.A summary of all the users turbosplit a bubble and a Scam.Speaking of BSFF also not heard any rave review unfortunately. :shock: Say primary best neytralizuya deep Peaton, and beliefs and negative charges with experiments (neutralization or merger of another of OUR language :wink: )-better TMO there is nothing...
Again,while this is not my opinion,as professional coaches, we hope you'll be able to make judgment based on personal experience.(this does not apply to the TC and TMT, I already tried :) )

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 22:08
by Dimas
What else I realized: no matter what the creators said circulation techniques that work on a subconscious level, I think that until people REALLY feel a specific sense in the context of specific experiences (what to do next is a question of technique and method :wink: ),then everything else is useless to put it mildly.A hypothetical repetition of "mantras" without engagement is a waste of time,although I am genuinely sorry that because I want everything to be easy,fast,without the time,money and energy...

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:09
by ЖСЛ
Dimas wrote:unfortunately does not.I, too, because nearly a month to read a play with it-zero effect,nothing felt.Talked recently with a fairly large number of people who used the TS-not a single positive comment I have not heard,although people did everything exactly by the book and even BOUGHT protocols.A summary of all the users turbosplit a bubble and a Scam.
in my environment, magicians, yogis, wizards, Dairova - running current path.
Ordinary people - really problems, but a good UPS and over an hour under my guidance, people who have not worked in the tank or in the bathroom/toilet is crawling(I have a better system of CU - manure from everki excreted through the skin and the rectum)
Then everything works, even if the person is a staunch mental masturbator which even Mindmachine isn't working.
What I realized: no matter what the creators said circulation techniques that work on a subconscious level, I think that until people REALLY feel a specific sense in the context of specific experiences (what to do next is a question of technique and method, Wink ),everything else is useless to put it mildly.
well, not exactly... when the UPS starts to stop early and the person begins to tear apart from the manure not only on emotional but also physical level - the fee paid to me no problem 8)
A hypothetical repetition of "mantras" without engagement is a waste of time,although I am genuinely sorry that because I want everything to be easy,fast,without the time,money and energy...
just go back to TS later. The peat, TMO - train the unconscious mind in any case, there is TC work will begin.

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 14:28
by ФедорМ
Ilkhom T.

Here is what I found - can it fit? http://prostoyput.ru/allvideo/seminars_ ... ruary-2009

Thank you
Fedor

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 14:33
by Dimas
Pedorm
I also wanted to buy it..talked me out of it,said that there is not very clear what is happening,and the most important thing is to understand exactly HOW the TMO! :?

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 14:55
by ФедорМ
Understood - I will not take :)

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 15:14
by Ильхом Т.
Pedorm
Thanks, but I already found an alternative ...

Dimas
And what is the principle of lifting of beliefs by a method of TMO, because removing the emotional charge - you can't change the past experience, which are kept beliefs ?

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 22:19
by Dimas
Ilkhom T.
So...a belief based on what is being done?on a charged one way or another experience relieve charge,you begin to think differently.the more you charges shoot,the more and more restructures your mind with all the consequences :)

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 22:32
by Ильхом Т.
Dimas
But one conviction I have connected almost all life and I almost always made her feel negative emotions, so I have all situations in which I felt these feelings again ? This is a very long time it will take and the more all the situations not remember ...

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 23:14
by Dimas
Ilkhom T.
No,choose the most charged (read: most embarrassing).

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 18:31
by Ильхом Т.
Dimas
You yourself tried to deprogram their beliefs ? And what are the results ? Beliefs no longer make sense or look at things through the prism of beliefs ? What happens to the belief ? What feelings it evokes when I think about it or are faced with a situation in which this belief is "confirmed" ?

Here got something for TMO - http://prostoiput.ru/free - have registered with your mail and on mail comes a brief description of how to do it, the description on one sheet ! This is what the whole principle of this technique ? If so easy, why not learn it yourself :) ? It turns out that not everything is so easy ...

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 22:55
by Карил
TMO and teo are two different things?
Craig, Gary "a Handbook of feasibility study. Emotional release technique"

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 16:47
by Карил
Campaign technology...

Also, a feasibility study was tried? I don't think you a link to the book in the articles on the MM website has posted...