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FOOD.VEGETARIANISM.
Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 21:52
by Алексей C
This topic is dedicated to nutrition and its impact on practice(spiritual,including practice with a mind machine).Personally, I fully support lactovegetarians with the spiritual and physiological point of view...I Want to hear the views of the participants of this forum.

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 23:07
by Dimas
I eat everything and feel great..

From a physiological point of view my body more like when I'm a little hungry constantly.So I find it easier to think and easier to focus.
Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 23:33
by Алексей C
I from the meat as it is not on its own lost the habit I guess.Very rarely eat fish,eggs(every 1-2mesyatsa).Basically kislomolochny.Although I think that to make the food not worth it-it's very distracting.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 0:45
by Ирина Яковенко
Good evening! An interesting topic was opened, Alex, thanks. I'm a vegetarian and a year on the raw food diet. Was once active masuelli:). I think that it is difficult to overestimate the influence of diet in the development of Personality. All brilliant:) really simple. The power I have significantly increased energy, endurance, materialization of thought, clarity of mind, speed and flexibility of thinking, children's ease in the body formed:), have increased confidence and trust in yourself, unconditional love and tolerance for people, motivation and easy-going:), shaken a universal truth, there was an interesting quality, to constantly challenge, analyse and verify information, opinions, knowledge from the outside. There was good flexibility and is gone in a sense, the need for immutable basis, for which hold that defended. When the logic reacts - may not be immediately there is a feeling of anything is possible, you just don't know it yet. I like it, I love to live in an Era of constant Change:). In my opinion, the most significant jump is the rejection of poultry and game and fish. Everyone creates the world in his image. However, I believe that it is foolish to use the developed system of power-someone, sometime, for someone under unknown circumstances. In his passing, I have relied on your body that he is wise and best of all (books, people, professionals, artists) knows what I need at the moment, while accumulating information about all sorts of approaches, opinions, experience, and gradually in the diet was introduced more useful (and favorite new discover) products. My transition was easy and joyful and exceeded all my wildest expectations.
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 0:56
by Алексей C
Irina,here's a question.I tried to switch to a raw food diet,but the body responded with a powerful weight loss,constant weakness,dryness of the skin and tormozhenie thought processes...even Though I did not want neither meat nor milk....When diversified food(kislomolochny,cereal, etc.) feel normal.

Actually the question...You never experienced it when switching to a raw food diet,and if you felt any time this happened?Thanks in advance for the answer

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 1:25
by Ирина Яковенко
Alex, through weight loss, weakness, dry skin, still very strong, constant hunger and a great desire not to stray too far from the fridge:), the transition are many. I am no exception, except that of weakness I almost was not (sufficiently high energy level before the transition), all these symptoms are temporary, all will be restored and weight including, it comes in the optimal, in terms of different, I have somewhere around 4 months. Didn't you just wait, when the cleansing crisis, and went back to my old diet. A crucial role in the transition to a raw food diet play enough of a motivating goal (what it was), attitude and belief in yourself, for some books, the actual experience of other people with such Luggage You'll be able to achieve what you want:). In addition, if initially there is no internal readiness to proceed immediately on the raw food or have doubts, then just include in the diet more raw foods, primarily fruits and vegetables, and the second start to remove harmful products, or a whole group each month. Choose according to their own feelings first 2-3 product or group, and not eat for a month, especially if they do not pull, not brittle,do not wait for the deadline, get another product. For derived from the diet products pick a substitute, for example, meat is replaced with nuts, sweet dried fruit, fruit, etc. the products Output in groups can take several months, and even years, from my own experience - little by little deduced only once, and then began to quickly pull entire groups without straining the body. Why it happened, I think that the body began to clear and become more to choose the right products for himself. Important psychological point is that the products are removed one by one instead of all at once and it's stretched in time, reduces the importance of. But if the importance is at a low level, and the emotional pressure is weak, painful:) thinking less and not want to eat so often:). And yet, in this period of time to broaden their interests, make your life more colorful and rich, then the importance of the food will decrease by itself. So, basically, we are tied to it just because of the fact that, in principle, obtain in life a little joy from other sources.<
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 1:43
by Алексей C
Thanks for the reply.Well, the food I set under him a long time...I don't eat meat(not because of pity,but from the point of view of the toxicity of the product),don't eat bread,products containing sugar,salt,eat a lot of vegetables, fruits,cereals,dairy products can sometimes include in the diet fish and eggs(for acute needs),med.About the raw food diet...I don't impose my opinion,but the transition to such a diet may result in failure.For example, B12 deficiencies may become apparent only after a few years,but it will manifest by bleeding in the brain(stroke)and 100% anemia.Of course it's strictly yours.I based all the same on scientific medicine(physiology),she's not once saved the life

.And on account of the influence of meat on energy and pollution energy channels this nonsense(if you eat any food with gratitude),giving up meat is essential in many exercises for the development of the will and thereby of peace,but it is only an initial and temporary step

And this is purely my opinion

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 1:46
by Ирина Яковенко
Dimas wrote:I eat everything and feel great..
You are young, Dima, so have not felt the impact of "eat everything", but it is easy to see in the future where it may lead, one has only to see how the live many elderly people, because God forbid. My grandparents – long-lived, but they live the last 20 years, in continuous diseases, not to see or hear, and quietly to myself and sometimes out loud dream of death. I am in no way judging Your lifestyle, it's Your choice and Your right, just genuinely wish to make an informed choice, understanding of cause and effect, though in this matter they are usually strongly stretched in time (youth-old age, Zdorovie-disease). To be free (in the broad sense of the word) and to live a conscious life, wouldn't that be a aim in the diet is also important, is not what is prepared for You at home, in a restaurant or cafe, and what exactly You want, this is the time and the more You wonder "are there really hungry are You now?" (and let the watch show 14.00), "what I want to eat?", the faster You will learn to hear and listen to your body and food, as the ancients said, will be for You not only joy, but also the only cure. Over time, this attitude will affect other aspects of Your life, clearer will be the understanding that refusal to choose, we are always responsible, though not always are aware of that that we do not have a lifetime to run once dug a rut that we choose to work for his uncle or to create your own business, be responsible for your life or be a victim, with whom and how to live, what to wear, how to spend free time, etc. And let us from childhood hammered stereotyped patterns of behavior, but in adulthood we may choose, if we realize that the choice is always there and sometimes it starts with these simple changes in lifestyle.
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:00
by Алексей C
Ирина Яковенко wrote:My grandparents – long-lived, but they live the last 20 years, in continuous diseases, not to see or hear, and quietly to myself and sometimes out loud dream of death.
I know elderly people(80-90лет) which are still healthy and active and eat almost everything.(well, except for all fast-food stores,McDonald's

).The point is not that you eat,but how you receive that life.You can eat an Apple and think that it is poison and really poisonous and can be eaten fried steak thinking that it will bring huge health benefits and it will help

The main thing is to let go of all troubles and take life as it is

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:05
by Ирина Яковенко
Алексей Семенов wrote:I do not impose my opinion,but the transition to such a diet may result in failure.For example, B12 deficiencies may become apparent only after a few years,but it will manifest by bleeding in the brain(stroke)and 100% anemia.Of course it's strictly yours.
Thank you, Alex, for your opinion and concern. As for B12, almost all sprouted grains and seeds have B12, but to be honest not particularly bother about it, I fall asleep/Wake up happy, healthy, energetic, harmonious and for me this is the only measure of correctness of the chosen path, and if the body is something not to miss, it will signal to me about it:) will make adjustments:). I believe that the raw food diet internal readiness is very important, just here for the arguments and the arguments of reason not uedish:). Many running solely through the mind, knowledge in addressing this issue will eventually manifest as inferiority (especially at a subconscious comparison of your life and other people) that they can't afford to eat, what "eyes" you want. Such solutions need to Mature:).
And at the expense of scientific medicine, if you recall the story, Noah's ark was built by Amateur, professionals built the Titanic:). To each his own!
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:21
by Алексей C
Consumption of plant-based B12 with shortages aggravate vitamin a deficiency.Modern medicine makes many mistakes,but the benefits it brings not enough.I'm probably not specifically written...the Only good think With physiologist R. Minvaleev. The only scientist yogi,who wrote a lot of dissertations and other works at fiziologii and what is most interesting is the only scientist who defended a scientific work on the physiology of yoga...about the medicine,he bodysee preference to the treatise of Tibetan medicine chzhud-shek.I fully agree with him.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:23
by Ирина Яковенко
Алексей Семенов wrote:I know older people(80-90лет) which are still healthy and active and eat almost everything
I agree with You that there are healthy older people, but don't cut your ear – healthy older people, as often seen in our time? Also agree with You that it is sooo important that in the mind and how we perceive life. Simply by power we help to purify the body, whose integral part is the head), in a healthy body - healthy mind:)! The food we eat has an impact on the thoughts that come to us after that:).
Алексей Семенов wrote:Can you eat an Apple and think that it is poison and really poisonous and can be eaten fried steak thinking that it will bring huge health benefits and it will help
But this is not under the power of many, it's important to have a certain set of qualities and strong energy.
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:40
by Ирина Яковенко
Алексей Семенов wrote:Use of plant B12 when shortages aggravate vitamin a deficiency.Modern medicine makes many mistakes,but the benefits it brings not enough.I'm probably not specifically written...the Only good think With physiologist R. Minvaleev. The only scientist yogi,who wrote a lot of dissertations and other works at fiziologii and what is most interesting is the only scientist who defended a scientific work on the physiology of yoga...about the medicine,he bodysee preference to the treatise of Tibetan medicine chzhud-shek.I fully agree with him.
I will not argue on this issue, You had an interesting experience I shared it, and if it is I wonder how I will impact the raw food diet:), you can write, call me in 3-5 years:), my contacts are at the bottom. In the world there are people who eat only solar energy, spatial energy, and it does not drink, do not eat and live well. Sometimes it is more to trust than scientific treatises:), we are all unique.
I like that idea from the article Berezovsky: "Fools only the treasure is given" - recorded in the text of the popular saying of the poet Ershov. This is a surprising observation, it seems at first glance, utterly illogical, absurd, but it's true. Why a treasure and wider taking - wealth - are "fools"? The very stupid have one interesting property, from any cause, he's not thinking about all the upcoming challenges, obstacles, barriers that are "smart" in advance will put on his mental journey. Because of this, the national "fool" complex is simple. But, it would seem that it's a private matter: can't see the wall - does not mean that the forehead will not trasmessa! But - what a miracle! - "fool", not seeing the wall, passes through it, without even noticing, and not only in the story - very often in life. The success obtained by his itself - apparently, wall, well-labelled "smart" really was an imaginary, samosoznanii in consciousness, illusory. This property - the loss of fortune, especially commercial, such nature is not an accident and not "podsazhivanie heaven." The world is dependent on our ideas about it, and the more spiritually refined nature sees itself in the world of obstacles, the more their (in her own order!) occurs."<
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:38
by Алексей C
Thank you Irina for Your answers

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 21:42
by Dimas
Irina Yakovenko
Well..rather, I look young just

and I certainly in October tridtsatnik banging)))My personal opinion is that people need to eat what you want,to food fun and not be in any case Perd a sense of guilt for something "not" eaten...In my experience it is important first and foremost related to something more than the material embodiment of that something...

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 21:56
by Алексей C
The main thing that was tasty

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 22:00
by Ирина Яковенко
Dimas
Oooo, Dima, You are truly wonderful look young:), happy for You. In the matter of power great strength are habits that actively are laid in childhood, in order for something new to want, it is necessary to have an idea what the taste is new is trying it is desirable not once. Italian cultural studies Montinari in his work brings the recipes of one of the siege of Milan, during which the defenders of the citadel were cooked fine (as reported in the chronicle) salads made of thistles and dandelions. The dandelions were only Belogorka parts so as not to disrupt the delicate flavor tones of the salad. Due to hunger (albeit ambiguous it sounds "thanks") in Italian included the mass of finds, preserved in times of abundance: the same light salads of wild herbs, add in flour, bran, etc. a conclusion from this history one Include fantasy, Lord! Without trying something new - not the rate!
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:17
by Dimas
Irina Yakovenko
Yes,of course,agree with You,Irina...you need not be afraid to try something new,and it's not just food

The main thing here is not to lose discretion and chuvstvo measures

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:26
by Анахата
All kind time of day!
Said, "Eat everything and do not bother" , because at the moment , I eat all that is eaten , but with Gratitude,and I haven't noticed such answers as "Other". Because there is more interesting food , like "Space"

Please do not be afraid , and to accept the fact that now there really is irrefutable evidence that the Earth has people powered by Solar energy, they are called "Green". Anyone familiar with human energy, understand that everyone has energodare-nazivaetsa Chakra, and because of this energetikam, people can absorb the Sun's energy through the Ajna (Third eye, between eyebrows) , and filling your body with Cosmic energy , lose all interest in the biological method of supply. Thank you for understanding.
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:34
by Алексей C
Анахата wrote:I haven't noticed such answers as "Other"
Thank you for the comment,really did not consider.
Анахата wrote:Because there is more interesting food , like "Space"
I agree,but it must be perfect,not have chvs(self-importance),and therefore it is unlikely that such people will sit at the computer and climb on every forums.

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:53
by Алексей C
And another small insert.
The human body is the stomach, and it means that we belong to animals, not plants, and must eat food.

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:11
by Анахата
Алексей Семенов wrote:Анахата wrote:I haven't noticed such answers as "Other"
Thank you for the comment,really did not consider.
Анахата wrote:Because there is more interesting food , like "Space"
I agree,but it must be perfect,not have chvs(self-importance),and therefore it is unlikely that such people will sit at the computer and climb on every forums.

Yes ,provided that this perfection was brought up from childhood, and when one does not know how to become one, and for this there is a kind of Knowing , ie the forums.(Though 89% of them ,solid delitanty and just dangerous people. ) I think it's clear and it's not worth continuing, though...
Алексей Семенов wrote:And another small insert.
The human body is the stomach, and it means that we belong to animals, not plants, and must eat food.

Yes, I agree, but plants do not have a Choice.
You know what I mean ?!
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:19
by Алексей C
Various energy are not interchangeable: the person needs both the sun energy and in energy of food. In addition, the food contains the "building" material for the body, which in other ways obtained can not be. In relation to the body, the human body (like any other) is in dynamic equilibrium between the processes of "decay-excretion" and "growth-income" if the balance is disturbed in favor of the first - person loses weight, in the second case, gaining weight. The collapse is permanent, if there is no receipt, to make up for the collapse - after a while (after weight loss/exhaustion) will die.Moreover, even plants feed on water and minerals are in the ground..
People tend to bother and everyone sees what he wants to see...

It is useless to convince someone and someone to argue...Eat whatever you want and live amicably and in harmony with yourself and the world around you

The road by walking.

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:23
by Алексей C
I would also like to amend.Let us here describe your approximate daily diet and personal spiritual practices(spiritual experience),I think it would be more interesting

Of course it's strictly Your

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:46
by Анахата
Nothing to argue about because anyone can see the truth with his hand. Each creates its own conditions , and adheres to them . The main thing that it brings joy .

Everyone has their own key to happiness, and for him to decide what to choose, be careful and stick to your opinions.
Alexey Semenov
Yes , without energy there is nothing, vibration is everywhere , including food and water, why not combine it in one bottle , ie to start eating the Sun ?

It's dangerous , of course _ it is important to know the measure.
Of course the body may die, but it's not the proper use of his body . There is evidence that person or a few people who already live for a very long time without food and water .
Sales -excuse me - to go to the bathroom for their holiday . This forced frigobase to food. Exhaustion , certainly, but all that can be empty , and you can fill out important to avoid. So everywhere there is a rule , Know the measure in everything.
It's fine when people finally stop starving, and start to feed on Cosmic energy.
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