Vopros about self-development and self-improvement.

ниска · Post by **ниска** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 20:29

Hello.... Please tell us more from this phenomenon as self-improvement.... I'm interested in EVERYTHING : what it is... and what it eats...
Thank you...

Post by **Андрей Кабанков** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 22:33

This is for everyone who improved,what would be a successful Manager,who aspires to become enlightened,someone from the sheep wants to be a wolf.
The change itself in the direction that feels right,probably is self-improvement.
How many people,so many ways.In the process of self-development and ways and goals may change.

ниска · Post by **ниска** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 15:27

It is clear that each wants to advance in his direction... But please describe to me the process.... Is that come new thoughts or perspective on certain things changes.... I do not understand the very nature of this process...

Thanks in advance!!

Post by **Андрей Кабанков** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 16:27

There is an inner need for transformation,begins osculates the meaninglessness of existence in the form in which you exist,start searching some of the ways that will lead to this transformation,after the transformation of course change old views and new thoughts.
Maybe Toto next will be the catalyst for this process,but I think that soil should be done in humans.

ниска · Post by **ниска** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 23:19

expected a bit more, seemed like you can just "take" knowledge from (out) \
(for example, understanding a language that you never learned)

Димитрий · Post by **Димитрий** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 13:04

Purely IMHO... there is Nothing we have to improve - we need to samorazvitie... Everything was attached there, just need to recreate, and most importantly, to recreate Who you Want to Be...

Триалект · Post by **Триалект** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 23:55

"Just to take" IMHO will not work. And master for free (i.e. without effort) language or something too, will fail. It is rather like trying to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, which constantly pulls back.
In order to begin to pull itself out of the swamp, one must first understand that you are sitting in it, darling. This is the most difficult and simultaneously decisive. Realizing this, you feel very powerful tangle of emotions. Are these the emotions, and forced to seek a way out of the hopelessness of existence. Starting to look for a way out, you begin to receive assistance from the environment (it used to be called signs). Well you stamp down this path, discovering new aspects of yourself. Or not stomp.... Bo bent in this way is also a breeze, and I know of several artists who either was drunk or fell into the power of your ego and now work only for him. In General, no guarantees nothing, and if not pinned vserez - live as all, it's easier and safer.

ниска · Post by **ниска** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 15:45

Freebies you do not want...

I'm interested in the path of development...

Here is written about "the swamp", "signs", and so on, BUT it's all abstract!!!!! Please give examples... I understand that not everything can be described with words, but Physical actions in the process of SELF-development, self-IMPROVEMENT is still there... Isn't it?? For example woke up... or woke up))))) I looked in the mirror, and so on)))

And how to understand that you are sitting in a Swamp.... You know, beautiful expressions to write every can, but to be a teacher - alas!!

WAITING FOR A RESPONSE

Post by **Андрей Кабанков** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 16:10

Start with the bookstore.I would recommend the books by Osho.In them you will find a lot of things,unless of course the soil is ready

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Only a few of those who are for something came to have a need for someone to teach.

Триалект · Post by **Триалект** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 18:37

Osho is a good start, I support, although most all started with Ouspensky, "In search of the miraculous".
But Andrew is right, the soil should be ready. If you have just an academic interest, long you it will not last. In order to durably and effectively work with you, you categorical rejection of his actual mode of existence.
You will often find that you speak in a strange language, and want specifics. The reason is not that you want to mess with brains, and that in language there is no necessary concepts. This is a very serious barrier, but if you manage in some way to seep through it and purchase your own experience that goes beyond everyday life, you will understand what people are trying to say - and almost never can say what I want.
And if you want the physical manifestations - take Robert Bruce's "Astral dynamics" and try out the exercises of the rocking of the secondary chakras, in particular, plantar. Sensations will not find it, and more than three minutes of effort is not required.... And that's just majonica of what is hidden.
The path of infinite, and this path must be the goal, not a desire to rake in the dough or to establish family life. And such that I woke up, looked in the mirror, whispered a mantra and brightened - this, sorry, does not happen.
And please note: no teachers. Everyone who declares himself a teacher, we can record the scammers. Be yourself as a teacher, do not shift responsibility on others. You are responsible for everything that happens to you.

Валк · Post by **Валк** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 1:12

Dialect
Thank you. From these messages and my heart is nice

ниска · Post by **ниска** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:50

Thank you...
And You are to strive for? And what made? And I will be more insistent, Sprache-is it worth it?
Mindmachine like that can help?

Триалект · Post by **Триалект** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 21:53

Allow me to keep my achievements with me. They are not intended for publication. I'm grateful to fate and myself for everything that happened, forgive for pathos.
If you have to ask, is it worth it, the answer is in the question: not worth it. IMHO the person really comes to himself, only completely disillusioned with all the rest, and in this position these kinds of issues simply do not arise. And if you try to calculate the correlation of investment with profit, it means you have no real self-knowledge, and something else - the advanced features of advantage in the struggle for existence, something else, but not the awakening itself. Self-knowledge is not a business promotion, where you put something and get something. On the path of self-discovery can easily be in the nuthouse. No one guarantees anything. Doing it from despair, from realizing the meaninglessness of existence. To come to me, need to go through a personal catastrophe, through death. If you do not know this feeling, I don't think you seriously can have self-knowledge. Read Osho, he'll explain it much better than me.
The mind-machine will help. Chaotrope will help. Help reading. All that will lead you to a meditative lifestyle. Most importantly - learn to watch myself. How to do it - you will find in the books.
But the group, any guru, there is all sorts of institutions, schools, circles, clubs, and similar gathering should be fully and unconditionally avoided.

ниска · Post by **ниска** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 22:01

Well... let Your achievements will be a mystery to me, which I myself could ever decide...
In Your opinion, to come to self-knowledge, you must lose EVERYTHING? And to start being left alone with itself????
I'm not really clear why this may occur: In fact "the world" in which you gradually immersed (can't find his name) he was not created by man, and "nature"... So why did you go mad from the knowledge of this world if in my opinion it is the best that could offer for humanity "nature"!!! Or the modern man is so asleep, so stupid and so materialistic that he in wonder Lessons of Self-discovery!!! ?????

Thank you... the Questions never ended...))

Триалект · Post by **Триалект** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:50

We are not talking about to lose something because we have nothing and we have nothing to lose.
I don't know why people are losing the ability to live or why they are back to the destructive way of being. Just experience shows that this happens with those who are beginning to return to himself, often enough. That's why I hold the opinion that there are no guarantees on this path.
If you like to know what "modern man", then self-knowledge would be useless...
You see, questions lead nowhere but to new questions. Self-knowledge cannot come by answering questions or asking them. In fact, the issues is a waste of time and energy both for asking and for answering. The only thing that will carry you forward is your personal experience.

Post by **Андрей Кабанков** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:22

I have nothing to add,all I wanted to say has already been written Dialect

ниска · Post by **ниска** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:44

Thank you all... I still Nitsche not understand....

Евгений Кош · Post by **Евгений Кош** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:25

if you trust yourself, then at the right time, you will begin to understand.

Everything will be

ниска · Post by **ниска** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 23:26

it's like a thin quiet inner voice??? which tells you, and you still do not listen and live after the match the Yankees with another rasseyannyi views of himself that knew in advance the score, BUT not put on totalizator...

ниска · Post by **ниска** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 0:44

Lately'm starting to notice THAT, have I got my body!!!! is this normal????

Триалект · Post by **Триалект** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 15:34

Your body is not you. A tiny voice is also part of the ego is also not you, but a trick of your mind. Your true self, at least according to Osho, is a mirror that reflects everything it sees. Is the observer. And all that says inside, that is anything that uses words - it's not you, it's superficial.

Евгений Кош · Post by **Евгений Кош** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 17:16

Триалект wrote:Your body is not you. A tiny voice is also part of the ego is also not you, but a trick of your mind. Your true self, at least according to Osho, is a mirror that reflects everything it sees. Is the observer. And all that says inside, that is anything that uses words - it's not you, it's superficial.

So you get a mental disorder.

It's all you, you yourself did what you are going through.
Acceptance of responsibility for your life is the first step to achieve WHOLENESS of self, not of incoherence about what you write.

Триалект · Post by **Триалект** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 19:32

Евгений Кош wrote:acceptance of responsibility for your life is the first step.

Of course. Everyone is responsible for everything that happens to him.
However, the detection of a false "me" and the ability to distinguish them from the "I" does not contradict the true responsibility for myself and does not necessarily lead to schizophrenia. Those "I's" that we operate in everyday life, are the fruits of the influence of other people, that is, are not our essence. They are all sorts of internal and external chatter. The same eternal essence of the man utterly speechless.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:43

Dialect
start thinking for yourself.
then makes sense to talk.

Триалект · Post by **Триалект** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 18:58

Anonymous wrote:Dialect
start thinking for yourself.
then makes sense to talk.

I'm afraid no one able to think for themselves. Everything is just repeated in one form or another heard or read somewhere.
And about sense, you're right. No sense to talk and can not be.