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Battle meditation, military status
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 15:15
by ЗОМБИ
Does anyone know about this something.
Heard A. Kochergina is the meditation "I died today" - what and how to meditate is not known.
Please... on the topic of combat and combat...
For more technical material and clear recommendations... so and so.
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 15:32
by ЗОМБИ
Affirmations???
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 17:42
by Идущая вперед
Berserker (Berserker) — the Viking God Odin before the battle, caused himself to rage.
The battle had a great power, fast response, insensitivity to pain, madness. Did not recognize the shield and armor, fighting in their shirts, or naked to the waist. The sons of king Canute — the Berserkers — have sailed on a separate ship, so how do the Vikings feared them.
One could do so that in battle his enemies blinded or failed, or they were filled with fear, or their swords became little sharper than a stick, and his men went into battle without armor and was like mad dogs and wolves, biting their shields and were compared with the power of bears and bulls. They killed people, and they were not to take neither fire nor iron. This is called to fall into Berserker rage.
Odin's men went into battle without coats of mail, and they were like wild wolves. They bit their shields and were strong as bears or bulls. They kill the enemies when they themselves did not take neither fire nor the sword; it was the fury of fierce warriors.
Once they have reached adulthood, they were allowed to grow their hair and beard, and only after killing the first enemy, they could put... Panties and the other went with her hair. In addition, the most daring wore the iron ring, and only the enemy's death frees them from his wearing. Their mission was to precede every battle; they always formed the front line.
Dressing up in bear skins, perhaps, was the reason why warriors were considered in these skins of wild and invincible. But why were they furious and raged? It is possible that they fell into the power of something like magical ecstasy and felt that they possessed a fierce animal spirit. This assumption is reinforced by the description of fury of the sagas of the Yngling. Where the wild warriors are called "Men of Odin". One (the southern Germanic Wotan) is largely similar to these warriors. One of his aspects is the God of War, "Mr. Rage". He wakes up in the German soldiers of military courage, the courage, the endurance, ensures that the best soldiers were in his squad in the final battle of the end of the world. As Wotan he leads the wild hunt (wilde Jagd), which is noisy night storms and which nobody can detain. The other aspect — he is the wisest of the Gods, gifted with such powers that no one not dedicated and does not dare to wield as artfully as he did. Shaman, Keeper of knowledge, religious and secret mysteries. Master of magic, which are animal spirits, master of wolves, and ravens — animals the battlefields. If he sits in Asgard, then near his feet sat the wolves Geri and Freki, ravens, Hugin and Munin, who tell him all the incidents of the world.
The alleged faith of the Berserkers in the obsession with animals, the "animal spirit", is quite normal. Ethnographers have confirmed that in other countries it happened. If the spirit possesses you, he doesn't feel pain nor fatigue. But when this state ends, the possessed into a deep sleep.
Chemical exposure
Have made other attempts to explain the "Berserker rage", where the source of this power is not transcendent power. Intoxication, attacks of rage, hallucinations, and subsequent fatigue could be caused by chemical substances, namely muscarine, a poison mushroom. Today we know that people in cases of poisoning by Amanita wildly fighting around them, they are excited, they are visited by delusional thoughts. In the others and doctors, they see fantasy creatures, gods, spirits. Toxic effect ends after 20 hours, and then people sink into a deep sleep, from which they in most cases only Wake up after 30 hours. Researchers know why people after eating toadstools look like this: chemical processes arise from hallucinogens similar to LSD, muscarine one of them, changes the speed of the impulses of the nerve endings, causing a sense of euphoria. But it could be the opposite effect because of the large amount, bad trip (literally a "bad trip"), which may end in death. However, the amazing coming changes due to this substance, which arise initially only one person, and then apply to everyone. At any techno party it is possible to observe a similar effect. The behavior of a man who took a hallucinogen, rhythmic music, repetitive clapping, pritoptyvaya result in the same state and others. This synchronization is carried out by activation of the characteristic of the body neurotransmi system, which is similar to the action of drugs. Thus, there is dynamics, which can be called "collective ecstasy." Assuming that the Berserkers knew it, and only a few leaders "encouraged himself doping" of the mushroom. They definitely knew what effect he has on people. Göttingen Professor of psychiatry Hanskarl Launer: "the fly Agaric is playing with the initial time the exclusive role of the mythological funds for subarctic and Arctic spaces. It was used by tribes living here for the ecstatic practices". However, still no exact proof of this theory. In any sources, no mention of such uplift forces. While there is irrefutable evidence of the use of Amanita peoples of the far North (Chukchi tribes).
Some authors suggest that the Berserkers belonged to certain secret associations or those families that knowledge of the mysterious forces or "plants of power" passed down from generation to generation. Others believe that there were enterprises Berserkers "masculine unions", and that the manifestation of the Berserker rage was a test of courage that was required each young man to when joining the adult Union. Many primitive peoples it was possible to observe such rituals with dancing in masks and ecstatic States. Inexplicably, however, this theory remains that in any of the Scandinavian sources, nothing like this exists.<
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 20:24
by ооо
so we do without Wikipedia!

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 21:10
by ЗОМБИ
Well, again, talk about plants force and excursion in the history...
Techniques and methods... I have such a condition was achieved once. Getting in the face of 90 pound of fat.
And now to run and beg to have it a couple times punched me while I set the anchor as it is impossible. And indeed anchors is not yet well understood in practice.
I remember
Kamui gave the technique of holotropic breathing method Sib shamans. Maybe it will fit? But I did, because I don't know why (but on house periodically strum

).
ZHSL argued that it is a distillation of the psyche. IMHO, obtained from holotrop state should be tocalibrate to combat.
XS... how...

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 23:04
by Guest
it is actually terrible to lose something , health , money (life ) if you have nothing to lose you're the perfect warrior ...
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:00
by Guest
Jim
ask the thugs ... and those who nezadumyvayas about the consequences of the acts or resorts to a knife who have nothing and nothing to worry about or to lose one and steeper . everything else is from the evil one .
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:01
by Guest
ZOMBIE wrote(a):
Techniques and methods... I have such a condition was achieved once. Getting in the face of 90 pound of fat.
And now to run and beg to have it a couple times punched me while I set the anchor as it is impossible. And indeed anchors is not yet well understood in practice.
Anchors for the weak my mind-all of this Opera-they needed only to by repeating simple actions (such as figs in pocket Smile ) vosproizvesti (desirable) state, the former at the time of their performances. Ie if it comes to opportunities in the face and a possible answer is to put later, we can only use (if Ani).
The General theme is good -- though, because personally, I can't even imagine how this way to grow, and with the other hand -- I can assume that among users there are people in this part of the advanced... ie not believing in a "distillation of the psyche" (to discuss such phenomenon, it would be necessary to begin to determine formally) join-not a miser, share, please...
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 13:17
by ЖСЛ
ЗОМБИ wrote:I Remember
Kamui gave the technique of holotropic breathing method Sib shamans. Maybe it will fit? But I did, because I don't know why (but on house periodically strum

).
ZHSL argued that it is a distillation of the psyche. IMHO, obtained from holotrop state should be tocalibrate to combat.
XS... how...

Damn, well take you Shlahter, everything is...
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 13:43
by ЗОМБИ
ZHSL
I don't like the Shlahter, he's fat
I will not live at practice yelling (as I recall from Shlahter two types of distillation:to shout and poke yourself in the arm with a sharp object (about objects - from the words of the classmate-hand combat)). Have Kochergina in training yelling, but we have not decided.
Damn, maybe into the forest where to go to prioratise, anchors ponastavili and gut? Although the case of the punch in the face seems more effective.
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 14:56
by ЗОМБИ
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 15:04
by Раджа
See "war machine" Taras. There is like to be in a trance, identifying himself with anyone you want (the author itself represent a cyborg terminator, as on the cover ).
Say a good, working technique.
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 15:18
by ЗОМБИ
that's not the problem. When a critical situation roof flies instantly.
And I have adequately trained fighting.art training, so as not to maim anyone... not isvladimir injuries in General nenavesti.
It turns out the double-edged sword damn it. MNU tuzyat, and I'm ashamed...

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 16:34
by Guest
ZOMBIE
and you eat muhomorchiki

well, trample
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 16:39
by ЗОМБИ
Guest
Repeat for the umpteenth time to KILL in training nobody should.
And you offer me a fly agaric, and what I'm going with this as to do. Moreover, it is chemically caused and pernicious. While buds with pechenocnae muhomorchiki not overtake in the urine and kikoski.
The more chemicals I no way.

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 17:13
by Guest
ZOMBIE
you want one but restrict others .
or are you a warrior or just do ... if you have nothing to lose and ready to go to the end you are a warrior ... one who fears is not always in full working ... must be a soulless robot and not everyone can .
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 17:16
by Guest
that is, or you wear the bear's skin and become them ... he doesn't care about your problems and fears ...
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 17:24
by ЗОМБИ
He can't, but the partner to whom I in a fit of love wytko eyes, is somehow not up to bear skin.
Because in hand to hand combat all (or almost all) goes to the destruction or severe degradation of the opponent's body. This is not a sport.
Actually a question:
how to set yourself up for the interval between "Hello".................... and ...... "I'll finish (certainly in the skin of a deer)".
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:35
by Евгений Кош
Гость wrote:if you have nothing to lose you're the perfect warrior ...
error.
two.
You are confusing zombies with a warrior (zombie a monster, without the spirit,morals, conscience, love, respect.. only by killing it can to ensure that he had nothing valuable).
nothing to lose only zombies.
And the warrior - the one who protects at any cost that it is expensive.
between zombies and Warrior - just an abyss

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:45
by Евгений Кош
ЗОМБИ wrote:Because in hand to hand combat all (or almost all) goes to the destruction or serious degradation of the body stated
It is taught in RRB? nifiga yourself.. that is, if a fight, you have to break something..?
well then even combat karate - is more humane.. there is the original instilling of awareness and technique, which can for a long time to disable the enemy without necessarily seriously destructions of the body.
It will be necessary to posproshat Resnicow.. are they so uncreative...
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:12
by ЗОМБИ
Eugene Kosh
Well, that's the thing -- no competition, such as in Hapkido. Because the competitors would kill each other.
But working out just what goes on living people
The principle is this... any "series"is a bundle ends with a deprivation of consciousness, destruction of a limb or organ, or death. That is the end of the series is the designation (gently and with incomplete amplitude, or target, for example on the floor) the last action. For example, one or more nastupni on the face. Folding neck. If you want a change you can hit in the throat or some kind of nerves or flatten it. For example, under the arm or in the sun.
All this is done on the lying opponent. But the way primedia him in a recumbent state is also PPC. But with them is the problem, can't calculate the force (I'm afraid to overdo it).
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 13:59
by ЗОМБИ
The school has no specific diagrams, kata, etc. "...find your style..."
This is certainly encouraging, but the initial "kata" would be very helpful (well, I complain about the school).
Still not clear why there is no collective meditation and vzaimodeistvie with the spirit of a warrior (such as to yell "iiiaaaao", before it after sitting in meditacin).
But the skills the school provides (if you take) stunning.
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 15:01
by Андрей Патрушев
ЗОМБИ wrote:the school has no specific diagrams, kata, etc. "...find your style..."
This is certainly encouraging, but the initial "kata" would be very helpful (well, I complain about the school).
Still not clear why there is no collective meditation and vzaimodeistvie with the spirit of a warrior (such as to yell "iiiaaaao", before it after sitting in meditacin).
But the skills the school provides (if you take) stunning.
That to RRB (Russian hand to hand combat) does not look like. It is very very different, I would even say, humane principles, but the efficiency, however, is very high.
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 20:29
by ЗОМБИ
RRB is not necessarily terribly Orthodox System Kadochnikova.
Moreover, who said that the melee immediately use his умениt as soon as possible turn up?
Some not until the last Preminet, some go all the way to "work on the street."
Martial art is not a sport. At the same Kochergina - sport. After all, there are rules. And there's only limitations, such as eggs beating, but not much.
There are two parts to the practice: a fist fight according to the rules, unarmed combat(lame) fight without rules, but in a sparing mode.
Body protection - on request. Gloves not. Tatami no. Welcome
In addition to their own body have knives, sticks, pistols, machine guns, bare floor, playing on rough terrain.
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 22:22
by Андрей Кабанков
It seems to me that the system Kadochnikova and close to it,is effective only for those who have any basis in the martial arts.
At least production impact.I do ballet and followers, creating false impression that they can.
Especially touches the work against the knife.