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Five to seven years ago there was a story. I worked in the newspaper and worried about the fact that the people there were smarter. They quickly focused, better understood, and their conversations I do not understand. But one thing not to know something that's fine, but the other – they do think differently. In General me it's all irritated and I tried to switch to another level of thinking. And once I got it. I'll try to describe the condition.

From morning meal in the Gazelle and suddenly realize that people around me are terribly slow. They literally sleep, slow to react, as a second to consider the change. But actually, if to think, the usual, just a little sleepy morning people. What I noticed the looks that they understand that I think faster, but can not do anything. Another feature weak/quiet the inner dialogue, the feature of the alpha waves as I understand it. It turns out one side of the high activity inherent in a beta state, another good, deep perception of the world.

At work I met a boss who in some way was the ideal for me. He also slowed, but differently. He seemed nice saw the world, but slightly turbid, i.e., a good alpha activity. And he's slow to react, bad beta. What is interesting in his gaze, I realized that the chef saw me and realized, and he liked to see me in good form. By sight – because we only said Hello.

Now the actual question. What was the condition and how it can be trained? The idea is to listen to the session after beta, alpha and Vice versa is impossible. But the state of active opiate this is a mixture of beta+alpha, at least I think so.

Карил wrote:five to seven Years ago there was a story. I worked in the newspaper and worried about the fact that the people there were smarter. They quickly focused, better understood, and their conversations I do not understand. But one thing not to know something that's fine, but the other – they do think differently. In General me it's all irritated and I tried to switch to another level of thinking. And once I got it. I'll try to describe the condition.

From morning meal in the Gazelle and suddenly realize that people around me are terribly slow. They literally sleep, slow to react, as a second to consider the change. But actually, if to think, the usual, just a little sleepy morning people. What I noticed the looks that they understand that I think faster, but can not do anything. Another feature weak/quiet the inner dialogue, the feature of the alpha waves as I understand it. It turns out one side of the high activity inherent in a beta state, another good, deep perception of the world.

At work I met a boss who in some way was the ideal for me. He also slowed, but differently. He seemed nice saw the world, but slightly turbid, i.e., a good alpha activity. And he's slow to react, bad beta. What is interesting in his gaze, I realized that the chef saw me and realized, and he liked to see me in good form. By sight – because we only said Hello.

Now the actual question. What was the condition and how it can be trained? The idea is to listen to the session after beta, alpha and Vice versa is impossible. But the state of active opiate this is a mixture of beta+alpha, at least I think so.

In fact, in the brain always has all types of waves and it can be conducted only on the ratio of their capacities and synchronization of the hemispheres. You described the condition is impossible without a strong alpha activity because this activity allows access to the subconscious mind with its incredible computing abilities. Thus, training of alpha activity, You train everything else. <

Thanks for the reply. To obtain and learn an altered state, during relaxing sessions of mind-machine I more or less learned. But now I'm more interested in the practical side. With the help of which I can cause this or a similar condition? Will it help me in this case is the mental game?

The state of relaxation that I can learn with the help of the mental games is actually a state of high alpha activity? And I'll be able to do anything, just lie with my eyes closed, right?

Карил wrote:Thanks for the reply. To obtain and learn an altered state, during relaxing sessions of mind-machine I more or less learned. But now I'm more interested in the practical side. With the help of which I can cause this or a similar condition? Will it help me in this case is the mental game?

The state of relaxation that I can learn with the help of the mental games is actually a state of high alpha activity? And I'll be able to do anything, just lie with my eyes closed, right?

It is not in a state of relaxation during AVS training, and in the increasing power of alpha waves during normal daily activity. On the background of the high-power alpha waves much better learning takes place. To quickly think it is necessary to train this ability is through regular exercise, which is now much already developed.

it is believed that this condition is included in the work of the subconscious, when threats to life, there are many cases when at war, people saw the bullets they flew and successfully evaded them.
like training there are such States, but they say that this can not get carried away

Андрей Патрушев wrote:it is not in a state of relaxation during AVS training, and in the increasing power of alpha waves during normal daily activity. On the background of the high-power alpha waves much better learning takes place. To quickly think it is necessary to train this ability is through regular exercise, which is now much already developed.

What about regular exercise is it? Where it is possible to read about them?

Князевский wrote:it is believed that this condition comes into operation by the subconscious mind, when there is a threat of life, there are many cases when at war, people saw the bullets they flew and successfully evaded them.

In the same condition that I described in the beginning of the topic, I do not remember that I saw something beyond the normal. Just faster than normal thought.

Князевский wrote:and Like exercise there are such States, but they say that this can not get carried away

I also met with different stories about the woman provisevshy with the child i.e. holding two fingers which is not something the rope, not thread. But you never know sometimes stories. But the first time I hear about that state can be trained. Can give or a link or at least some information so that this information could be found?

Карил wrote:

Князевский wrote:it is believed that this condition comes into operation by the subconscious mind, when there is a threat of life, there are many cases when at war, people saw the bullets they flew and successfully evaded them.

In the same condition that I described in the beginning of the topic, I do not remember that I saw something beyond the normal. Just faster than normal thought.
and You just the bullet flew, and now You're not seen, this is my opinion.

Князевский wrote:and Like exercise there are such States, but they say that this can not get carried away

I also met with different stories about the woman provisevshy with the child i.e. holding two fingers which is not something the rope, not thread. But you never know sometimes stories. But the first time I hear about that state can be trained. Can give or a link or at least some information so that this information could be found?

I mean the training of quickness of the mind, they say that if you accelerate the time, and the faster the light will go

Князевский wrote:I was referring to the training of quickness of the mind, they say that if you accelerate the time, and the faster the light will go

The acceleration of fiziologii should in theory age faster, but I don't need to move fast. I need absolutely another.

And so the subconscious processes information very quickly. The important thing is to learn how this good to use in a conscious state, and not the time of the hypnosis session or meditation.

About a shortened life. Is it better to live and work on the farm, and to die never having seen besides the fields, cows and weekly drinking father? My life could be this scenario. I was born in the village... Or better still, something to achieve, albeit at great cost ten or twenty years of life.

Князевский wrote:and You just a bullet flew, and now You're not seen, this is my opinion

Here that-that, and flying bullets I do not need.

Карил wrote:

Андрей Патрушев wrote:it is not in a state of relaxation during AVS training, and in the increasing power of alpha waves during normal daily activity. On the background of the high-power alpha waves much better learning takes place. To quickly think it is necessary to train this ability is through regular exercise, which is now much already developed.

What about regular exercise is it? Where it is possible to read about them?

Yes, regular exercise is mnemonics are different, quick in his mind, Shulte tables, etc., etc....

Андрей Патрушев wrote: Yes, regular exercise is mnemonics are different, quick in his mind, Shulte tables, etc., etc....

Do. Usual exercise.

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I have one more question ripened.
Internal dialogue activates beta waves, as I understand it. But why is this activity prevents the emergence of the alpha state?

And I somehow think that the conscious attempt to present something akin to an internal dialogue and the alpha waves have no relationship. Therefore, to imagine nothing. Here these images, are the ones who came by themselves in a whole Gestalt. The subconscious need to give only the General direction of the plant, the machine – and then it should work itself out. Whether so it actually or not?

Maybe the answer, Karil!
The image can not touch words. It is in itself. For example, you can watch and think "I.." "door", and so on.
An example of this is the man, when walking along the road, he does not think like put your foot, what angle, what direction, etc. you Can look at the light and thinking "that light.." and can not think that this is the light. Still, the attention focuses on the light and without a mental support. You get to walk at all in any areas, well, not crushing something, especially not loading. Just don't load words of submission, or try to not load, there is just a sense --- but because the very understanding of the words does not contain.
What person understands? Mind gets, but not words. A person understands without words. The stomach said "I'm hungry"


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So there is a sensory level of perception of the image. And the man does not respond to external signals.
I don't like the concept of "internal dialogue" It's baffling.
Here is a response to external signals is always accompanied by this dialogue. That is the dialogue that is fact --- the external form of the reaction consciousness. The focus of his consciousness inside-the dialogue disappears, there is generally always quiet, no extra noise. And Gestalt -- the whole is there. should remove shielding external signals -- there is a dialogue.
Therefore, Carilo, I agree with you completely. These conscious attempts this. present-blanked by external signals.
My suggestion is to block all external signals, keep them to yourself. There is a kind of vacuum. And the vacuum eventually pulls the light -- and there is a real image.

снежинка wrote:Here is the reaction to external signals is always accompanied by this dialogue. That is the dialogue that is fact --- the external form of the reaction consciousness.

Not always.
Imagine (and better - looking) you're looking at something from multiple points in space.
When this state becomes stable - the internal dialogue I don't. Is pure awareness.(I don't think my result is very different from the result of other people)