loosens the assemblage point

[Александр_]

Does anyone have any ideas how to shift the assemblage point ?
With the use of machines , or some sort of good practice ?

cacti do not offer !
as well, and a different chemistry.

Interesting just the same.

[Лилка]

So, in Castaneda for a couple of Xinjuan all described..... like. no?

[Dimas]

Alexandr
Cacti do not offer,and they say Salvia was used by the shamans to this spec of zbaracki not to undermine,and what shift
PS I am in no way inclined to use in any manner any plants other dissociatives.

[Лилка]

Dimas
what say those who have tried?? offsets?

[Dimas]

Lilka
Slip the wrong word....

[Евгений]

...We are against the killing of their different body chemistry, we are for the natural non-prohibited product that helps you to understand and know what would likely every person deep down...

Who cares-http://www.sayno.ru/

[Guest]

Alexandr
while the visualization did not try? The main thing for myself figuratively to understand what the "assemblage point", and then experiment! However do not forget that you can "shift" back will not be able to return as it was, and then to others - you shizofrennik.
Proper visualization is a powerful tool.

[Савл]

Proper visualization is a powerful tool.

Teach me that wisdom!?

[Лилка]

um, visualization.....
is there somewhere a separate Temko entomu question I think!!!

[Путешественник]

Oh, well, not much everywhere you look Castanedas things to discuss . With this approach, you your assemblage point in a madhouse will move

About the Salvia, I actually know people with it, moved the assemblage point (or the roof:) ) to the extent that so e...and (forgive me) and left. Apparently, FOREVER. And the method of use adopted in a whole of civilization (Smoking, usually Smoking extracts ) is simply idiotic immature junkies, IMHO. Even the most powerful shaman hardly dare to smoke the leaves (about extracts just do not say anything) this plant is considered sacred. But if we decide, remember that the leaves of this plant is traditionally chewed, and fresh, and the number is counting strong shaman performing the duties of a doctor and a priest. Self-consumption of this plant is an easy and cheap way to experience ISS, but also quite dangerous to think about. I would not dare...

[Александр_]

Cacti not offer,and they say Salvia was used by the shamans to this spec of zbaracki not to undermine,and what shift

The Teun Mahrez wrote that is just uncontrolled use of plants of power - and destroyed their civilization.
And highly not recommend to use them, even occasionally.

[Александр_]

So, in Castaneda for a couple of Xinjuan all described..... like. no?

maybe I forgot
I want to know what people tried, what the result was.
but it seems to me that I abruptly Castaneda will be in oak.

[Александр_]

...We are against the killing of their different body chemistry, we are for the natural non-prohibited product that helps you to understand and know what would likely every person deep down...

Who cares-http://www.sayno.ru/

me too.
just would like without any product whatsoever.

and the site will look, thanks !

[Александр_]

and in the visualization did not try? The main thing for myself figuratively to understand what the "assemblage point", and then experiment! However do not forget that you can "shift" back will not be able to return as it was, and then to others - you shizofrennik.
Proper visualization is a powerful tool.

and it is possible from this place more in detail ?

let us first look at what you call visualization, and then steps go ahead.

for me, the visualization is a representation of something.
is this what you mean ?

and also, I have noticed two types of visualization.
you can see on the internal screen, as it were, the imagination, and you can see almost with our eyes, but it is much more difficult and harder.
here you are what kind of imaging ?

[Александр_]

Who cares-http://www.sayno.ru/

the website looked, the design is beautiful.
but I'm a little not about that.

we have a powerful tool in the form itself, and the cars...

I wonder maybe someone already machine something like this invented how to implement.

[Александр_]

Self-consumption of this plant is an easy and cheap way to experience ISS, but also quite dangerous to think about. I would not dare...

the same Teun mahrez warned that using plants may be irreversible for the person changes, not allowing him to continue the path of the warrior ....

[Лилка]

Alexandr
the result - works!!!!! what can I say more?..............

[Guest]

Alexandr

for me, the visualization is a representation of something.
is this what you mean ?

and this, too, but what I meant is the ability not only to see the picture, but also to feel its smell,taste and touch. If you have any experiences with OC, the feelings should be the same as in the real world. Emotions, too. If you work with the image,and remain as though on the sidelines, a bystander, that visualization might work, but maybe not. But if you "merge" with the image and act there as the main character of the scenario, the visualization works 100 %.

and besides, I have noticed two types of visualization.

personally, I think that this is not the kinds of visualizations and different "screens".
but for me it does not matter what kind of screen to use, which opened there and "work".

[Лилка]

using machine or some sort of good practice ?

MEGASTRESS better just blows this point to hell... and no "pipe weed")) and some not worth it))))... that is, not lying))... well, in General, is not smoked!!))) ... and chewed!!)))

[Александр_]

"merge" with the image and act there as the main character of the scenario, the visualization works 100 %.

never such as the wasps were not.
I'm talking about the reality of the senses.
well imagine, but so like a dream - no, definitely no.

everything seems a bit unreal.
you know what you imagine.

the absolute definition could not be achieved yet.

it seems to me as the others.

but if anyone things differently, I invite you to tell us how this happens, and how you did it.

[Guest]

...never such as in the wasps was not.
I'm talking about the reality of the senses.
well imagine, but so like a dream - no, definitely no.

everything seems a bit unreal.
you know what you imagine.

I never cease to be amazed how everything is real in my OS, even more real than in real life.This is caused by brightness of colours, greater contrast and sensations more vivid, intense.
I have two stages in the OS. The first is when I begin to understand that sleeping and dreaming, at this moment sleep patterns normal.But once I realized and then immediately transition to another stage. Before it was like a bullet pass through a corridor or pipe and release at the other end .Then started actual colorful OS. Out of it also passed through the pipe(channel). But lately, the transitions become very soft, just after I understand that sleep, I know that now the door, I quietly walk in, sometimes even instead of a door, only a doorway, crossed which I find myself in the OS.The output from the OS is also through the doors.

Maybe it's the fact that you and I have different views about dreams. You think they're your imagination, and I consider them the real world.Is my inner world,the world of my unconscious, where part of my holistic I play your performances for certain scenarios and in some scenery , and there is a world of collective unconsciousness.

Most interesting is that in lucid dreams you can go through the wall and at the second attempt it hurts to even bump and bump pop up on his forehead.

[Александр_]

understand about wasps is clear.
what do you mean by visualization ?
not wasps do the same ?

[Guest]

is clear about the wasps clear.
what do you mean by visualization ?
not wasps do the same ?

I think I already explained about visualization, but about the OS mentioned because I have seen a certain similarity of feeling.And when dealing with people who had the OS, I found out that they are also experiencing feelings similar to mine, so I decided to give you an example to better understand.

The OS and the rendering is not the same thing.

Now once again read the "letters" your post

never how the wasps were not.
I'm talking about the reality of the feelings.
well imagine, but so like a dream - no, definitely no.

everything seems a bit unreal.
you know what you imagine.

the absolute definition could not be achieved yet.

it seems to me as the others.

but if anyone things differently, I invite you to tell us how this happens, and how you did it

and understand where the Shoe pinches, I "missed" in the underlined sentence part "how"and I realized that everything else relates to issues in the OS. So the answer was, not get caught.

Now I will answer on the subject, the brightness of the visualization I achieved through regular training.It took me 4 years. At the very least 2 times a day to visualize in a relaxed state!
Initially I tried a lot of different techniques from different sources, don't even remember what books and what sites. I only remember that the first time I read about visualization norbekova .
And after 2 years I was without any of the techniques by itself out if I achieved a certain degree of relaxation.
That's the whole secret. Yes, still unable to advise when the first bright visualization to put "anchors", then it will be easier to enter this state in later times.<

[Александр_]

Oh!
Just wanted to know !!!!!

Actually, I thought that to reach absolute reality, while rendering impossible...

But if you're saying that this is so, then of course on that work.

I have a few questions :
1 how much total time per day do you devote, and what for you was the criterion of success of training, especially in the beginning.

2 what exercises were you doing for the development of visualization and what was especially effective ?

3 did you tie the visualization to relaxation why is it so important ?

[Guest]

Alexandr

1 how much total time per day do you devote, and what for you was the criterion of success of training, especially in the beginning.

I had a powerful incentive to engage in visualization , serious illness from which it was necessary in that whatever was to get out. Visualization came to me, as nothing else I'm just not able to do was lay in bed, tortured by pain ( from the pain meds I refused).
So for three months I nearly only and did that visualized interspersed with the laptop search the Internet for different methods of visualization.
The criterion for successful imaging was then the weakening, or even at the time of disappearance of pain. It strengthened my faith in the efficacy of visualization.

Now when I'm perfectly healthy, I spend a visualization of at least 2 times a day, before bedtime and in the morning after waking up.

2 what exercises were you doing for the development of visualization and which were especially effective

Most of my first exercise then, which was proposed by Norbekov, imagine a lemon. Itself surprised from the oskoma and abundance of saliva, which arose, although the idea of lemon was barely visible on the internal "screen".
In General, you should have asked what exercises I did!
In the principle plus, minus the effect of all were almost the same.
As your exercise, I sought out on the Internet, you will find them there.

One thing I want to mention that at first I began to work out when rendering emotions, especially sharply I reacted to pop-up pictures causing me fear. Heart started beating hard,muscles clenched, caught the throat, his hands became cold. Then I began to carefully "observe" the reaction of my body on the weaker emotions that accompany a particular pattern visualization.

Over time, I could of chuvstvovat a whiff of cool breeze, and smell and taste.

But the brightness of the pictures, now that I think about it, the first came during the practice of recapitulation.

3 did you tie the visualization to relaxation why is it so important ?

I'm not tied, so there! I'm not every visualization "feel in all its glory"! Most often it is "partial". When I looked up, I realized that the whole thing is in what altered state I reside. The deeper the relaxation, the better the effect.
Complete visualization happens to me most often in the morning immediately after waking up.
Even for vivid pictorial rendering I think is very important, "the predominance" of the right hemisphere of the brain over the left. The Lefty is very easy to present a picture on the screen before my eyes in all its details. Not for nothing the most talented artists draw with my left hand.

For lefties, I am not, so, too, are constantly engaged in synchronization of left and right hemispheres of the brain ( 3D pictures of hemisync, and now acquired MM machine DP , where there is a special session to activate the right hemisphere )<