A couple of questions on the subject of 25 fps????????

Евгений · Post by **Евгений** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:45

What are your opinions on frame 25 in the study in.language??? The opinion is not idle. Because much has been written about photomemory, speed reading and other techniques based on similar principles(working with the subconscious) really want to hear informed opinions, but just..."quackery..." or "a very cool method..."

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Sincerely, uncle Jack.

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 14:40

Евгений wrote:What are your opinions on frame 25 in the study in.language??? The opinion is not idle. Because much has been written about photomemory, speed reading and other techniques based on similar principles(working with the subconscious) really want to hear informed opinions, but just..."quackery..." or "a very cool method..."

A real technique and really works (tested by myself). The only BUT not all of what is now the Internet is positioned under this method, works. For example, recently came is spam about studying English by this method. The site was the demo, which clearly indicated that the developers of the program do not understand neither the essence of the method or features of visual perception.
As an example, the correct technique can be a technique of Intel (which somehow no longer hear anything).

Евгений · Post by **Евгений** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 16:16

To Andrei Patrushev
Thank you Andrew for the response and advice!
I'm the type that last year wrote about the study of language and large amounts of information...with mind machines and your CDs!

Now, as vysheukazannoe, expanding approaches and strongly want to finish this issue again in a short time.
In this regard, the question arose about the 25 fps I was reading up earlier about the effect of the 25th frame, but very "much water poured" around this phenomenon. And that there is only one firm that manufactures THESE DRIVES with stored in a special way and special technique - some features of the method. It is not without truth, the ways and methods but here is how to know which ones are real (those that..more

) and which are false. I have two disk "Quick teacher" and that's the one that was advertised through the Internet. And where is the truth??? What products and where best to buy(if there is a link to an OPTION)and what to expect from this? Maybe something else will advise, in my difficult task in the spring will go again over the hill-take the exams in the second round! And this time even less, and the volume is the same and a bit more added!

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 21:15

Евгений wrote:To Andrei Patrushev
Thank you Andrew for the response and advice!
I'm the type that last year wrote about the study of language and large amounts of information...with mind machines and your CDs!
Now, as vysheukazannoe, expanding approaches and strongly want to finish this issue again in a short time.
In this regard, the question arose about the 25 fps I was reading up earlier about the effect of the 25th frame, but very "much water poured" around this phenomenon. And that there is only one firm that manufactures THESE DRIVES with stored in a special way and special technique - some features of the method. It is not without truth, the ways and methods but here is how to know which ones are real (those that..more ) and which are false. I have two disk "Quick teacher" and that's the one that was advertised through the Internet. And where is the truth??? What products and where best to buy(if there is a link to an OPTION)and what to expect from this? Maybe something else will advise, in my difficult task in the spring will go again over the hill-take the exams in the second round! And this time even less, and the volume is the same and a bit more added!

Hello, Eugene!
Vladimir Nikonov is a CD with a good program (he used). So he probably can to share with You, if very necessary.
And would You share with us your success and how You helped (have not helped, prevented...

) classes with mindmachine and discs.

Евгений · Post by **Евгений** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 23:29

Hello, Andrey!
Nice to hear from you.

Thanks for all the support you and the guests of the forum!

To tell you the truth, I don't know how to describe their victories, except that I finally got to South Africa. stayed there for 2 months, execute all documents for the exams and even managed to go on the first exam and successfully pass it by half. have fallen short due to language, this second is not mastered. What was planned - done!
Applied various techniques in an accelerated language acquisition that specifically work, with all due respect to you, call not taken. The car drove through all your recommendations, listening to CDs, drink "the pill", adhere to the "brain diet", I go to the gym and sauna, and so on. Every day was sitting and stormed books on angel move... On arrival there, the car and drives of pills left... Now a new round and slowly made podkluchil machine for hard lessons, but all the dope pills were removed completely. The number of books increased. The volume are going to peruse is not small, but there's NO other way!!! For any and all help, in word and deed and drives-I would be extremely grateful!!! To say,by the way, one of my good friend is also with me drove the car and was very satisfied. periodically at the meeting asks..."can drive?

In effect believes!!!Showed Professor and psychologist, in his "Alma," is also approved. Here are the things here. I forgot, I would like to work and operate everything else, and joined the ranks of the UN and other...that helps really don't know but I can GUESS

Once again I want to thank everyone for their help and count on to hear something extremely useful to me at a very serious stage of my development in all respects.

Post by **Владимир Никонов 2** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 18:05

And about the program-it can be, if I understand correctly Andrew, 25 fps

Then look at the beginning and end of the page
http://www.yugzone.ru/soznanie_software.htm

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 10:14

Евгений wrote:Not sure what these programs were discussed at Andrew.
Most likely on Intel or something?
Easier to ask the Andrew?
The latter, by the way the link is not working.

Yes, it is Intel, where three independent programs.

Евгений · Post by **Евгений** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 0:35

Vladimir, do you have specified Andrew drive?
How you can get hold of them?

Post by **Владимир Никонов 2** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 0:42

Евгений · Post by **Евгений** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:30

Thank you Andrei and Vladimir!
Very hope for your help and thank you for your sincere desire to help!
Waiting for your news

Сергей Михайлов · Post by **Сергей Михайлов** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 19:51

Patrushev question is about 25K

I wonder what netherdale developers techniques?

I also did a program based on the idea 25K. So it is still visible. As far as I know, this effect is only possible in the movies.

or am I wrong?

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 20:11

Сергей Михайлов wrote:Patrushev Question is about 25K

I wonder what netherdale developers techniques?

I also did a program based on the idea 25K. So it is still visible. As far as I know, this effect is only possible in the movies.

or am I wrong?

One simple detail - the following text appears on the same place as the previous one and "overwrites" the previous head information.
The method is not - visible or not this frame, but a subconscious assimilation of information, but it also has its own rules. Differ materially movie?

Сергей Михайлов · Post by **Сергей Михайлов** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 23:58

Cinema has no horizontal scan.

In television, a single frame is almost like another. If scenes are very different from each other, it will be ruffle.

I thought that the fact that the eye does not see. So it was in the original.

But with this "and the subconscious assimilation of information" does not agree. Otherwise ordinary banner advertising on roads can be considered to be 25K.

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Mon May 12, 2008 9:24

Сергей Михайлов wrote:cinema has no horizontal scan.

In television, a single frame is almost like another. If scenes are very different from each other, it will be ruffle.

I thought that the fact that the eye does not see. So it was in the original.

But with this "and the subconscious assimilation of information" does not agree. Otherwise ordinary banner advertising on roads can be considered to be 25K.

In a conventional film similarly all seen. Now apply mosaic (desperanto) presentation (one frame contains only a small part of information).
With banners it is, but you have to be aware that any subliminal effect touches a man only when his brain is dominant at this topic.

Сергей Михайлов · Post by **Сергей Михайлов** » Mon May 12, 2008 9:52

On account of the dominants I agree completely.

People with pre dominant can see that even where it is not. For example, the "deeply religious" many of the actions will see the finger of God. A supporter of a "Judeo - Masonic conspiracy" will see signs of a conspiracy even in the form of pavers.

This, by the way, sleduet that the spread of messages suggestive means to one person will not be applicable for another.

Before selling 25K need to conduct psychological examination of sufferers.

What you, Andrew, think about this?

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Mon May 12, 2008 9:55

Сергей Михайлов wrote:At the expense of the dominant, I agree completely.

People with pre dominant can see that even where it is not. For example, the "deeply religious" many of the actions will see the finger of God. A supporter of a "Judeo - Masonic conspiracy" will see signs of a conspiracy even in the form of pavers.

This, by the way, sleduet that the spread of messages suggestive means to one person will not be applicable for another.

Before selling 25K need to conduct psychological examination of sufferers.

What you, Andrew, think about this?

It is not humane...

Сергей Михайлов · Post by **Сергей Михайлов** » Mon May 12, 2008 10:05

>It is not humane...

please rasshifruyte your message

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I meant that different groups of "predominancy" we need to produce different products. And in order to determine which product you need konrketno person it should be evaluated for "cockroaches in the head".

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Mon May 12, 2008 10:22

Сергей Михайлов wrote:>It is not humane...

please rasshifruyte your message

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I meant that different groups of "predominancy" we need to produce different products. And in order to determine which product you need konrketno person it should be evaluated for "cockroaches in the head".

Ahh...

And I thought that all the force You want "there" to drive...

Duck everyone, the end, and will find - it is only necessary to provide the required variety, which, incidentally, is now widespread and is being done. And then starts "the effect of psychological contagion". And then the winner is the group where more of the crazies...

андрей другой · Post by **андрей другой** » Mon May 12, 2008 10:56

Hello!
me too, this topic is very interested. I myself with the slang behind, but with German as a disagreement, but honor was too lazy. Bought a Quick course teacher on the basis of 25 fps. In is noted that this so-called. the technique of "passive learning". Technical details I did not penetrate, though, like nothing complicated. The lesson is proposed to be split into 2 periods: the passive perception of the emerging text (the words translated are objectified. speed. Mode "lines" or "pages" depending on the choice of the student), and then 45 minutes is recommended to "guess"- to learn words from the provided Glossary. Can't criticize objectively, but for me personally, during this time, the same amount of words to learn in the traditional way combined with the study of grammar. Especially me (I say, maybe others have different feelings) this work is tiring and there is a rejection to the continuation of the study. The maximum of the required 45 minutes was enough for 20. And the vocabulary-matched in my opinion absolutely oak. I think, just selected pages from the Russian-German phrase-book and inserted in the dictionary in the same form as in the offer! So the same word can occur in different variants (depending on case, number and kind), and to transfer what it sounds like, in the Russian translation of the sentence from which it is taken. It may, of course, in this sense , but I abandoned the exercise after a week and sit with the "normal" course of practical grammar.
It should be noted that there is a place to make your own dictionary and use 25 fps, but still will score right words in all cheecky!..
But I repeat, it is my impression. Perhaps someone a job and enjoy, and benefit. Since , however, I was assured by an employee of this office when he sold me the kit. Says ogogo how to learn the language already!

Сергей Михайлов · Post by **Сергей Михайлов** » Mon May 12, 2008 11:03

>Andrew, the other

I specifically collected the opinions polzovteley 25K.

Praised only sellers. Spit buyers.

андрей другой · Post by **андрей другой** » Mon May 12, 2008 13:39

I specifically collected the opinions polzovteley 25K.

Praised only sellers. Spit buyers.

well, I thought someone helped. Now money is a pity...

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Mon May 12, 2008 16:06

Сергей Михайлов wrote:>Andrew other

I specifically collected the opinions polzovteley 25K.

Praised only sellers. Spit buyers.

For example, I do not sell anything, but really benefited from the lessons with the course INTELL.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat May 31, 2008 18:31

God enough languages

STOP TALKING!!!!!You CRAZY!!!!!!!!

IMMERSE YOURSELF IN THE SILENCE OF THE POOR.ENOUGH TO SHAKE THE AIR.Live 1 week in silence and you will begin to talk.wait 2 weeks and you will begin to answer themselves.two of you just telling you

Maybe you think(or me) that there are all these people and actually

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:37

yeah-Ah-Ah....the last post-it di .. NHS...

Post by **Владимир Никонов 2** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 17:19

Read here - http://www.yugzone.ru/articles/25kadr.htm
Andrew, what do you say?

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