Sedona Method

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 20:02

Екатерина Е wrote:nope, checked again.
There is no anger. There's apathy, sadness, fear, anger and lust. As well as pride, courage, acceptance and peace. All, all nine, as one!
But anger - no.
And joy - tozha no.
So here!
And the needs of the current three Tama.

Despite the fact that I'm trying out this method to retrieve more or less works.
But still - why??

I'd like to understand, however, why these are selected and those that I counted - no?

Ah, so the anger there is a part of anger.

And joy can be part of multiple. There are large scrolls on each emotion that man can feel...
And needs what's wrong? You have them how much?

Honestly - what's the difference how many of what? Bad systematics (in my opinion, the Sedona is quite good

) it's better than nothing. Practice for the proposed scheme at least three months, and then to invent.

Екатерина Е · Post by **Екатерина Е** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 21:04

Андрей Патрушев wrote:Practice for the proposed scheme at least three months, and then to invent.

Andrew, in my opinion is not the best answer - "but you first learn/work/ stay with me, and then..." Well, and so on.

As someone with a distant relationship to science, I'm just wondering WHY the author could have put all it in such a handful, and not in any other. Interested in You in particular because You are the most competent and yet affordable specialist in this matter.
It was possible at all limited to just a "plus" and "minus". And all experiences of any human decompose on these poles.

About needs I simply noticed that it seems to Maslova (without the base, which is understandable). But there is no expression. Again the question - why?

If this secret is unknown to You, correct (IMHO) so to answer.
If there are any grounds for such classification, we would like You to tell me them.

Classification I work professionally (in business), and I know that for different tasks the same old can spread in different ways. Here's the problem-interesting.

You may have seen in my rather naive question is some kind of trick? So its no Tama

Just I want to know what the author was guided. Again I repeat that the position of "I am not the author - I don't know" would be considered quite distinct.

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 15:02

Екатерина Е wrote:
Андрей Патрушев wrote:Practice for the proposed scheme at least three months, and then to invent.
Andrew, in my opinion is not the best answer - "but you first learn/work/ stay with me, and then..." Well, and so on.

As someone with a distant relationship to science, I'm just wondering WHY the author could have put all it in such a handful, and not in any other. Interested in You in particular because You are the most competent and yet affordable specialist in this matter.
It was possible at all limited to just a "plus" and "minus". And all experiences of any human decompose on these poles.

About needs I simply noticed that it seems to Maslova (without the base, which is understandable). But there is no expression. Again the question - why?

If this secret is unknown to You, correct (IMHO) so to answer.
If there are any grounds for such classification, we would like You to tell me them.

Classification I work professionally (in business), and I know that for different tasks the same old can spread in different ways. Here's the problem-interesting.

You may have seen in my rather naive question is some kind of trick? So its no Tama Just I want to know what the author was guided. Again I repeat that the position of "I am not the author - I don't know" would be considered quite distinct.

Black cat in a dark room may not be...

3 months is a kind of constant. Three months to fully manifest the effects of any methodology and people change as much as possible. Also, if the person is no longer engaged, then for 3 months it ends and you have to give yourself a new "kick ass".
Schemes and classifications are good, but they only work in certain contexts, and give the illusion of understanding...
The brain, "understanding" is very different (much harder) from that of "recognition".<

Екатерина Е · Post by **Екатерина Е** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 16:51

Андрей Патрушев wrote: of the month - a kind of constant. Three months to fully manifest the effects of any methodology and people change as much as possible. Also, if the person is no longer engaged, then for 3 months it ends and you have to give yourself a new "kick ass".
Schemes and classifications are good, but they only work in certain contexts, and give the illusion of understanding...
The brain, "understanding" is very different (much harder) from that of "recognition".

Thank you. A lot of value.
I do. But in addition to some logical resistance, which is relatively easy to remove by the same method, there is a deeper something.
Because of specific training since childhood, the brain just refuses to do, if you do not understand. Well, this feature for me. What can you do - physics parents (dad is a Professor and theorist, mother - experimenter, PhD.-MD), 2 degrees plus the degree of PhD.-MD

My husband says that if my brain not to feed the task, I will first begin to eat themselves and then others.
Here in this I dig of classification and conceptual apparatus. Although I admit that if you relax on this subject, all will go better. Until it comes out.

For myself, I decided that the feelings, at least, NOTHING terrible will happen if the same pattern will act and with what classification, is not present (or I did not see).
You think I don't make mistakes?
Needs yet such problems are not present. Maybe just less this have.

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 16:59

In my opinion, the method is flexible enough and, really, nothing terrible will happen.

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 18:16

The new book by G. Dvoskin and L. Levinson, "Not in money happiness" (Russian translation of the book "Happiness is free and easier than you think") http://www.koob.ru/dwoskin/schaste_yeto_svoboda

Арамис · Post by **Арамис** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:11

Андрей Патрушев wrote:Published a new book G. Dvoskin and L. Levinson, "Not in money happiness" (Russian translation of the book "Happiness is free and easier than you think") http://www.koob.ru/dwoskin/schaste_yeto_svoboda

As someone already familiar with it! What are your impressions?

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:43

Aramis
Yes,a great book... on holidays I read...if engaged,the technique certainly works.Tried to walk in the consciousness of his infinity minutes ,do as if filled with energy.

Арамис · Post by **Арамис** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 0:13

Dimas, thanks for the review. Read first take this.

ФедорМ · Post by **ФедорМ** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 16:43

Questions on method:
1. It is written that a "Yes" or "No" is given for questions - no matter. And here I sometimes don't know YES or NO... is it possible to answer "don't know"?

2. As I understand it, if the first results do not oschuschaetsya, then you just "stupid" to continue to train so to speak?

Thank you

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 22:07

ФедорМ wrote:Questions on the method:
1. It is written that a "Yes" or "No" is given for questions - no matter. And here I sometimes don't know YES or NO... is it possible to answer "don't know"?
2. As I understand it, if the first results do not oschuschaetsya, then you just "stupid" to continue to train so to speak?

Thank you

1. Can. The main question to ask.
2. Yes, it is so important to develop the ability to consciously "catch" emotions.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 3:43

Thank you

ФедорМ · Post by **ФедорМ** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 3:44

It was me
Again - thank you!

Алёна Прекрасная · Post by **Алёна Прекрасная** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 22:15

Frankly... so far, what doesn't "work" for me... I don't in terms of criticism, but rather for help:
1) Practice for about a week - no special feelings confirming that I'm moving in the right direction. Promised (I did not show

) of lightness and the feeling of liberation felt.
Question: Should we continue the result will come "to anyone" or you can conclude "for me, it's not really working" and not wasting time to find another method of "releasing/release" which immediately "the humor of the situation"? I suspect that all people possess individuality and, possibly, "truly yours" method immediately feel and "lie"? In short - maybe you should not waste time and should look for a method that immediately (within a week) will give tangible results?
Maybe this is nonsense and the aforementioned need to spend 3 months to understand "it" or not "it"?
What I did with Sedonas:
During the week, I released the emotions and/or what specific feelings:
The vast majority of unpleasant. As well as anxiety and concern for future developments and financial situation.
Looks like you have problems with the need for security.

Resistance is also released.
In the end, nothing much felt. The same issues continue to worry like before... Even a pot with a lid imagined!

And guys!

Used the standard 3 questions (Sometimes adding "if I could take...?"
Andrey Vadimovich – can I ask You to "PM"? – I have questions on a couple of pages (just warning) and I'd like to ask of the Council. Frankly I'm asking for advice, but understand that you're busy, etc.

Sincerely,
Fedor

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Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 13:18

Алёна Прекрасная wrote:Frankly... yet, that does not "work" for me... I don't in terms of criticism, but rather for help:
1) Practice for about a week - no special feelings confirming that I'm moving in the right direction. Promised (I did not show ) of lightness and the feeling of liberation felt.
Question: Should we continue the result will come "to anyone" or you can conclude "for me, it's not really working" and not wasting time to find another method of "releasing/release" which immediately "the humor of the situation"? I suspect that all people possess individuality and, possibly, "truly yours" method immediately feel and "lie"? In short - maybe you should not waste time and should look for a method that immediately (within a week) will give tangible results?
Maybe this is nonsense and the aforementioned need to spend 3 months to understand "it" or not "it"?
What I did with Sedonas:
During the week, I released the emotions and/or what specific feelings:
The vast majority of unpleasant. As well as anxiety and concern for future developments and financial situation.
Looks like you have problems with the need for security.
Resistance is also released.
In the end, nothing much felt. The same issues continue to worry like before... Even a pot with a lid imagined! And guys!
Used the standard 3 questions (Sometimes adding "if I could take...?"
Andrey Vadimovich – can I ask You to "PM"? – I have questions on a couple of pages (just warning) and I'd like to ask of the Council. Frankly I'm asking for advice, but understand that you're busy, etc.

Sincerely,
Fedor

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Yes, of course, you can contact the PM. On the work (not work) any method can be judged no sooner than three weeks of regular exercise.
The standard of question four:
- Could I take that feeling?
- Could I let this feeling go?
- If I let go of this feeling?
- When?<

Post by **Malvina** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 15:10

I here what question are unable to clarify for themselves.
There was a situation or a memory. I ask myself "What feeling I am experiencing now?" Select from the list, sometimes it's hard to describe that feeling, there's a whole mixture. Asking liberating questions. And needless to say the name feelings ? Or just speak to THAT feeling? How best works?

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 22:02

Malvina wrote:And I here is the question are unable to clarify for themselves.
There was a situation or a memory. I ask myself "What feeling I am experiencing now?" Select from the list, sometimes it's hard to describe that feeling, there's a whole mixture. Asking liberating questions. And needless to say the name feelings ? Or just speak to THAT feeling? How best works?

I already wrote here that I have the same thing and I don't call a specific sense, but simply say "this feeling". But when the senses are working at home, working with specific feelings.

ФедорМ · Post by **ФедорМ** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 19:37

Andrey Vadimovich,
You mentioned that you plan audio course on method? I want to say that the book I, as it is not very helpful and audiokursy Dvoskin, has had a tangible positive effect. I'm loving it. Sedona is a powerful thing!
Andrey Vadimovich, thank you, making the course a huge benefit to people will be.

Thank you
Fedor

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 15:02

Hello ! I have a question: I can not let go of your feelings, can take and this by the way becomes easier, but still felt "domestic cargo" and let go - well, no : to the question: "Can I let go of his feelings" I without thinking answer "No" to the question "if I let Go of the feeling ?" "No," and the question "When ?" "Never." Mind telling what feelings need and they give to understand the real situation and postignut me to action, even if I just feel like bestestest.... although I "believe" that feelings must be just a one-time call to action, but to convince your mind in the future, the futility of feelings - I can't ! What to do ? Or desire to release their feelings will come later ? I have been practicing the Method for about a week, but it helped that I learned to let the feelings and not fight them, but to consciously let go I never learned th ...

Thanks in advance for your answers !!!

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 15:31

Anonymous wrote:Hello ! I have a question: I can not let go of your feelings, can take and this by the way becomes easier, but still felt "domestic cargo" and let go - well, no : to the question: "Can I let go of his feelings" I without thinking answer "No" to the question "if I let Go of the feeling ?" "No," and the question "When ?" "Never." Mind telling what feelings need and they give to understand the real situation and postignut me to action, even if I just feel like bestestest.... although I "believe" that feelings must be just a one-time call to action, but to convince your mind in the future, the futility of feelings - I can't ! What to do ? Or desire to release their feelings will come later ? I have been practicing the Method for about a week, but it helped that I learned to let the feelings and not fight them, but to consciously let go I never learned th ...

Thanks in advance for your answers !!!

Hmm, and what does source do? Something You, I think, in the subject...

Maybe You did not read carefully?

In principle, it doesn't matter how You get the answer from his mind, but still...

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 15:40

Cuba I downloaded the book, according to this source and do ... And on what source we should be doing ?

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 15:48

Anonymous wrote:Cuba I downloaded the book, according to this source and do ... And on what source we should be doing ?

Yeah - the direct source.

Then I wonder how You realized from this book - what happens to Your feelings as a result of using the method?

Ильхом Т. · Post by **Ильхом Т.** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 15:51

Written above posts - my... Clarify what I'm trying to let go:I'm trying to let go of the desire to change the situation, situation and its shortcomings ! Yet I did not read the next Chapter "Key to serenity" - think the first release "desire to change", which is at the moment, then move on, but not something to let go of the desire, there is a belief that these desires are constructive, even if they are just feelings without action.

Post by **Андрей Патрушев** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 15:54

Ильхом Т. wrote:is Written above posts - my... Clarify what I'm trying to let go:I'm trying to let go of the desire to change the situation, situation and its shortcomings ! Yet I did not read the next Chapter "Key to serenity" - think the first release "desire to change", which is at the moment, then move on, but not something to let go of the desire, there is a belief that these desires are constructive, even if they are just feelings without action.

Well, well... And still: as You understand from this book - what happens to Your feelings as a result of using the method?

Ильхом Т. · Post by **Ильхом Т.** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 15:56

Андрей Патрушев wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cuba I downloaded the book, according to this source and do ... And on what source we should be doing ?
Yeah - the direct source.
Then I wonder how You realized from this book - what happens to Your feelings as a result of using the method?

Well, I think that this fact(take the example of any lack, any) should not cause feelings, both positive and negative, should not be invoked a desire to change it, and this fact loses its importance ... And what really should be ?