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Стоимость энцефалографа

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5 500 р. (DreamStalker)
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6 700 р. (как InnerPulse)
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Post by Экко » Fri Feb 19, 2010 15:10

what if you connect the magnetic head (from VCR) to the power amp and then to the oscilloscope?

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Post by ХБ » Sat Feb 27, 2010 16:12

Good afternoon, dear participants of the forum. I absolutely do not understand the medical equipment, but you need to learn next - maybe you have some organizations who sell used:
1) EEG system,
2)biofeedback system (with an EEG, GSR, plasma RGD
3) EMG

If You have some information and could You please provide it to me, I would be very grateful. My address nekomrjaz@mail.ru

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Post by Триалект » Sun Mar 21, 2010 19:18

Continue to tell us about your experience with Atlantis. After commercials 60 sessions with standard protocols for increasing alpha at C3-C4 and Fp1-Fp2 wrote Frau Klein that say, do not see any change in myself and I'm asking for other protocols. She didn't answer. Then I wrote to the forum of the manufacturer of the device quite frustrated letter. Literally: "the money that I invested in the device and in seminars on the work with him, I was a lost investment." It hurt. I got four or five responses, approximately with the same statement that, say, one to work with this hardware is useless, you need a qualified mentor.
I found myself a mentor. It is the therapist named Roy Vasanta, lives in Heilbronn, not far from me. He is the author of the book "Gehirn-Training mit EEG-Neurofeedback", I read it and liked it. Went to see him. The consultation lasted 5 hours and cost me 400 euros. He took off my QEEG with 19 points of the skull in different modes of consciousness - relaxation, the calculations in the mind and perception of the text by ear. Then we looked at the behavior of my brain during this QEEG. It turned out that my right front powerful center of the Delta is the result of the brain injury 22 years ago. That is, clusters of neurons in this place works in a very slow mode characteristic of deep sleep, and they remain in this mode when you need to actually go into beta, for example, making calculations in mind. Further, I have a whole brain activity was concentrated on the right, that is, the emphasis on holistic emotional perception of the world to the detriment of sequenziale-logical thinking. The left hemisphere is almost not working in any mode. And most importantly: in all modes, I strongly prevailed alpha. This gives the effect that everything in life is like half-asleep to care, a kind of constant chill. Trouble concentrating, memory problems, difficult to work under stress, immediately there is a reaction "yeah you go dance."
Conducted training of coherence for about twenty minutes - alignment of the activity of the left and right hemispheres. It was good. In the middle of training there was a feeling quiet stay in yourself in the here and now. On the subsequent display of the frequencies of the brain was clearly visible as somewhere in the fifth minute resonance of the left and right hemispheres began to grow, I heard during the training as the unit has become often high to ring. But it seemed pretty elastic bands worn on the skull (I have quite large), so that the head ached, and training I brought to an end somehow. At the end on the record was some artifacts.
Now Vasanta says the need to buy additional software called Bioexplorer, because with the native software from a Brainmaster'it doesn't work. It is 425 green. Then will have to go through his training to work at home. It's still 700 euros. In General, an expensive hobby as I predicted Frau Klein....<

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Post by Триалект » Fri Apr 02, 2010 0:26

I decided not to go to Vasant, and went to one of his students. And she showed me on the fingers, how to work with the Atlantis. It closed two small holes in my knowledge, which does not allow for effective session. I won't go into details, it is simply not necessary. Now, with new knowledge, I spent three sessions. Feeling extremely positive, results are visible almost immediately. Finally, the real work begins! :D Now I will conduct a daily session of twenty minutes, and in three months go and take a test QEEG to determine follow-up strategy - which is what part of the skull to train up and what is down.
Yes, but the advice this woman has cost me 50 euros.

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Fri Apr 02, 2010 10:19

Триалект wrote:Now, with new knowledge, I spent three sessions
Keep up to date, if possible
It inetersno
Details also make
For example, this woman is a consultant on what issues?
You, as I understand it from Germany?
Interestingly, in Russia there are such experts?

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Post by Триалект » Mon Apr 05, 2010 0:54

Will continue. The second and third session I spent in one day - very much I like to control the brain. It was a mistake, I overloaded the brain, and a day and a half later the headaches started. Two days I had to take pain pills.
Woman prokonsultirovatsya me, is a therapist, it's in Germany, something that corresponds to the level of paramedic, there is not a doctor, but has the right to treat people. Her name is Sylvia mull, her site is here: http://www.neurofeedback-zentrum.de/
I'm such specialists is unknown. But I know that the Russian doctor Yuri Kropotov has a very interesting research in this field in Norway. He is from St. Petersburg, to attend his seminars cost a lot of money, but I guess it could be very interesting. Here is an interview with him: http://www.inauka.ru/psychology/article54941.html

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Post by АнтонБ » Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:09

On the subject of the survey:
Those interested can already purchase the device at a price InnerPulse http://www.emotiv.com/apps/epoc/299/
EPOC Headset for $299. There is a SDK for interfacing with their applications.

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Post by АМЕА » Sat Apr 24, 2010 21:40

Dear enthusiasts-yourself EEG, I want to remind that the electrodes through the gel you plan to apply to yourself or your neighbor on the head necessarily associated with a conditional block of the patient and then, via a particular port to a PC that is plugged in...

Keep in mind that any medical EEG unit has galvanic isolation, or must connect through a transformer of the type BCTE, which in itself is worth 500 green... otherwise, you can ostrich a "alfaria" that will not find it, despite the temporary incapacity of the Sayano-Shushenskoe HPP :shock:

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Post by Триалект » Sun Apr 25, 2010 17:31

What a mess you tell....
My EEG is powered from USB.

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Post by НЭК » Sun Apr 25, 2010 17:42

Well but USB-then this is the wire that connects the socket with Your head. By the way, Your EEG it is not self-made, like, there's the whole safety must be observed.

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:29

АМЕА wrote:Keep in mind that any medical EEG unit has galvanic isolation, or must connect through a transformer of the type BCTE, which in itself is worth 500 green...
If You're talking about epoc headset. then:
neuro-signal acquisition and processing wireless neuroheadset.
АнтонБ wrote:Wish can buy the device at a price InnerPulse http://www.emotiv.com/apps/epoc/299/

EPOC Headset for $299. There is a SDK for interfacing with their applications.
In fact, the interesting thing :-)
I'd like to try
I wonder how it looks in work.

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Post by Макс Верховцев » Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:48

And we have the specialization courses at the Department of neurology to know it not?
But for that kind of money on the house to hire a teacher can be!

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Post by Доктор ЗЛО » Mon Apr 26, 2010 13:10

No, it's not about Headset, it's wireless, you see. Wireless devices and devices of low voltage and self-contained in the interchange is not needed. I'm talking about is your gun, warn of dangers of hitting the El. current. What's the difference - USB or something else?

Eyes see where where the wires go. Trace from socket to head and provide a short circuit or wrong voltage supply in the switch Board in the performance "the class enemy".... I think that your USB is only 5 volts going? :(

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Post by Экко » Sat Jul 17, 2010 20:43

I also have the desire to collect the device.
on the forums say that this is not Amateur level.
But the principle is: the input from the electrodes is up to 100 mV, then the case is enhanced diff. welcom really like to watch the waves is unknown, but those who have oscillograf lucky, your sound card probably will go too.
By the way: a conventional radio has a sensitivity of somewhere within these limits, it is worth zadumatsya

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Post by Протокоп » Wed Aug 11, 2010 17:35

Anyone interested in exploring the depths of the subconscious,

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for further uselessness of this superprimer BioWave (EEG, EOG, EMG) - I'll give in good hands for a fee. you cost me 23 thousand wooden at all costs. want for it 15. The kit includes the device itself, the digitizer(Converter) and special gel for ECG, EEG, REG, EMG, etc. all the software can be downloaded from the manufacturer's website + no problems with customs clearance, delivery from abroad, etc.

I am in Moscow next 2 days, then 10 days of leave to Ukraine.
write on soap - for_maps@mail.ru

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Wed Aug 11, 2010 17:50

Протокоп wrote:for the further uselessness of this superprimer
and why, if not secret

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Post by Тапка » Thu Aug 12, 2010 0:04

Join issue.

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Post by b612 » Sat Sep 18, 2010 14:15

Also I want to try to solder EEG
AD8220 we have expensive 300r but there is a domestic 140УД17 50p
Anyone here anything already soldered?

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Post by Экко » Mon Sep 27, 2010 16:17

b612 wrote:Also I want to try to solder EEG
AD8220 we have expensive 300r but there is a domestic 140УД17 50p
Anyone here anything already soldered?
Yes, I tried to start to solder an EKG, but on the radio said that chips AD**** they have, and never will be, so do not sell because they are for special equipment. So just to invent

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Post by Протокоп » Fri Oct 08, 2010 16:49

Humpty Baltay
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early work was connected with the study of sleep, what was needed was practical confirmation of theoretical conjecture.
now retrained, and therefore do not need any more the device.

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Post by фрагмент » Sun Oct 17, 2010 17:02

He very well belong to Monroe, to me effective, but it's time to revise or correct relevant to that method. I believe that the light wedge has not converged on the brain, and hence the EEG. Here's an example:
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Examples like this, thousands of that suggests that the brain is the seat of consciousness, and therefore abut in control of EEG rhythms is not worth it. Although recently he was going to find theta rhythms in certain States.And indeed was an ardent follower of this topic.So got in.
Think wider and in different directions. :)

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Post by Тапка » Sun Oct 17, 2010 19:04

fragment - at the moment, neither EEG nor even a normal device reflecting what is happening in the body we have.

Have dreams and prospects ,creating the schema, and the constant waiting for parts from web shops ))

EEG,EMG,EOG is at least something that will allow us to at least begin to explore.

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Post by Тапка » Sun Oct 17, 2010 19:13

b612 - AD8220 .8627.8224 is designed specifically for amplification of biosignals .

I personally Patriotic details to use will not-and AD8220 AD8627(2pcs) cost nearly 1500 . But not for EEG use them I will - but as primitive biosilicon .

EEG will be buying the device Nanobelt 4 channel with radio channel of information transmission ( in the future).

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Post by фрагмент » Sun Oct 17, 2010 20:28

How about theta rhythms? What it seems to me this is one of the indirect signs of diminishing ego.

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Post by Тапка » Mon Oct 18, 2010 2:48

Protocop - it is possible more in detail about the sleep study ???

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