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ВинтерФрост wrote:if anyone needs used the Pharaoh's cylinders made in Kovtun can sell in St. Petersburg for 3500 R.
Sell because friends crazy gave another set.

but also difficult to understand who poddelki who the author is ,who the right part of the manufactures who buy better
"Wands Of Horus"
http://www.wands.ru/index3.html

рыжая wrote:

рубен wrote:http://www.metapowershop.ru/product.php?id=37

Shungite harmonizers for healers

advise me to buy here from shungite or cylinders Kovtun to buy me ?

I also wonder what experienced comrades has to say/ says that one cylinder of shungite, the second from soapstone /Who knows what it is?

Do none of the experienced can advise

Ruben
You have to ask on the discussion forums about these cylinders and not here
PS.
In his hands he held them for me as complete garbage....

I then did some digging and found out an interesting feature. Kovtun wrote a book. Conducted research. Other authors Gorbunova, Uvarov when describing the effectiveness of their products refer to the SAME documents. Photos selected pieces from the book Kovtun. But let them other products, and therefore it is necessary to investigate separately. It is impossible to attribute the conducted research themselves just like that. This made me to write to MS Gorbunova. Let's see what she will answer. If you do not answer - so it means a lot. And the questions asked in the forehead and to the point.
Answered. It's pretty cute. Here already spoke about the benevolence and effectiveness of this office.

One portal provides the rods to the Heat (I'm in frenzy full) Range of rods, the cost is higher - all 500.e. I got excited right after writing about fake information need to check.

Pavel1
Tell you, I have the cylinders Kovtun already 2-3 years... do Not waste their time and money (as well as all the other "rods", "poles" and so on:) )
In the beginning, kind of like feel their action (although it may be a trivial placebo effect, which can truly create a man wonders), then when you stop paying attention to these "side effects", they disappear with the same success can hold any two pieces of pipe...so I imhuetsya at least

Dimas wrote:Pavel1
Tell you, I have the cylinders Kovtun already 2-3 years... do Not waste their time and money (as well as all the other "rods", "poles" and so on:) )
In the beginning, kind of like feel their action (although it may be a trivial placebo effect, which can truly create a man wonders), then when you stop paying attention to these "side effects", they disappear with the same success can hold any two pieces of pipe...so I imhuetsya at least

I would agree with you if I knew more about it. Let it be my mistake. But the experience of people suggests that it works through the years. Can these sticks work, but let's say weakens the field of the earth or any other factor, so the body doesn't feel anything. Let them even a year will work for this time, I will be able to solve his problems with his sick body. Maybe you have already developed your capacity so that the power cylinders for you is not clear and insufficient. I would recommend you gold and silver, but you know - we're not the Incas). If you watched the film about them, where the Poles of the field and draws on their experience, it becomes clear that this is not just a piece of pipe. And Polyakov I believe.

= All maybe. All may be right. The simple truth is this complicated and big.

I have a concrete research plan. What I want to do with them. Use in home, music, food, water, and physical processes. Maybe somehow tie the technology to diagnose the beam. Applications can think of a lot. Assistance to their Oldies again.

Pavel1
But for God's sake, try of course, and most importantly stay healthy if using cilindrov You will feel better, so just made them not in vain!

Pavel1

music, food, water, physical processes

Yes, but never forget that the observer ALWAYS affects the observed object and most often it is due to this phenomenon, nabludatel gets confirmation his theory, as he programmed
...I was finishing the article together with the psychologist, Stepanov V. G. of the placebo effect in modern marketing, maybe someday I'll publish it in the network with specific examples

I have a weak mind. I how many did not try, did not work. I think the cylinders can strengthen my thought form.

Pavel1

I Have a weak power of thought

I think all of it is the same, but the faith ITSELF podhramyvaet

YAY! Came fits. The effect of evening and morning classes the common denominator is this - a tingling, itching in some places, surge in hand. A good night's sleep, a steady rise. A lot of effort. The desire of thought to correctness, harmony and justice. All changes are felt mostly inside, in the consciousness, thoughts.

Dimas
At the beginning of the thread you praised the fit, and then write "do Not waste their time and money ", explain pliz. After reading your posts it is clear that your opinion can be trusted

Алхимик777 wrote:Dimas
At the beginning of the thread you praised the fit, and then write "do Not waste their time and money ", explain pliz. After reading your posts it is clear that your opinion can be trusted

I also asked to justify their opinion about the use of cylinders. Looked through all the reviews of the demos and decided to buy it and there is such a negative message. Email - why? Is it worth buying?

Ludimila

Write - why? Is it worth buying?

Certainly not worth it!
I have lots of friends with the same opinions: in the beginning delight and then full negative
Better sign up for yoga or qigong and riding yourself in the content threads

Практик wrote:Ludimila

Write - why? Is it worth buying?

Certainly not worth it!
I have lots of friends with the same opinions: in the beginning delight and then full negative
Better sign up for yoga or qigong and riding yourself in the content threads

A bunch of friends is not himself. And later I to do with Your advice. It would be nice to get an explanation from Dimas

Ludimila

a Bunch of friends is not himself.

Well, of course I have them and he kept none of them, or anything....
Although there are celindra of minerals works there but not cylinders and minerals!

Yes and later I do Your advice.

Qigong can be practiced at any return!

By the way I think Dmitry is no longer working in MM(although I may be wrong)

Practices
You mean the cylinder of shungite them?

Алхимик777
These I mean: http://www.maginter.ru/product_info.php?products_id=23

Well, even in hands came across from jade, is also good!
That's the way they are: http://shop.lithotherapy.ru/product/garmonizator_5/

Not much is not the topic but very good. well drive just the energy of quartz crystals

Алхимик777 wrote:Practices
You mean the cylinder of shungite them?

no, I mean the cylinders Kovtun

Практик wrote:Алхимик777
These I mean: http://www.maginter.ru/product_info.php?products_id=23

Well, even in hands came across from jade, is also good!
That's the way they are: http://shop.lithotherapy.ru/product/garmonizator_5/

Not much is not the topic but very good. well drive just the energy of quartz crystals

I told You about fomu, and YOU about Eremu

Ludimila

I told You about fomu, and YOU about Eremu

That post was addressed not to you!

Where to buy the cylinders below without cheating. On Kovtun they cost about 6000 thousand with shipping. Saw on another site for 3800, and also on behalf of Kovtun. Can someone who bought recently and tested them?