The legalization of short-barreled (COP) of military weapons in Russia

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Считаете ли Вы целесообразным легализовать продажу и скрытое ношение боевого КС в России?

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Re: Legalization of short-barreled (COP) military weapons in Ross

Post by Андрей Кабанков » Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:27

Yes, I am calm and so :)
Take the example of me, with my weight of 68 kg and I am well physically developed, but I will never make it with two or three opponents, weighing a hundred kg, not because I'm afraid it's just beyond the physical possibilities for me, although I was engaged in melee combat with an instructor that trains special forces soldiers.
Having a weapon in my case a knife, I will be able to resist such enemies, even with weapons. These skills I got spending a lot of time and effort.
Since the completion of my training it's been a lot of years, a weapon I did not use even once, although I have it almost always.
No fear that I will attack I don't, idiots do not consider myself too.The weapon is just an amplifier of my physical and fighting qualities, and that's all.
Probably you have never beaten just so, and I sometimes, just for the fact that my future wife was living with me in one area, and I dared to go there.

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Post by Практик » Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:41

Andrey Kabanov
Take the example of me, with my weight of 68 kg and I am well physically developed
And the growth rate?
you Probably never hit, and I happened, just for the fact that my future wife was living with me in one area, and I dared to go there.
Yes, the theme is familiar, but it is better still to take correct patsanov :)
And without weapons to resolve various misunderstandings

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:37

Смелый wrote:I think Andrei Patrushev, a lot of things can tell.
On the one hand, I absolutely agree with You, and my personal experience, Your findings only confirm, another, again, there are different situations, :? especially when with the family somewhere in the nature go...

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Post by Андрей Кабанков » Mon Mar 05, 2012 13:47

Practicesgrowth 180.

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Post by bofara » Mon Mar 05, 2012 14:48

When the situation is hopeless, one against a group with no money, You only have one "bare hands". And you have no choice, you can't leave... You know they will beat "good", even if you pray, even if you cry ...

I think the only correct approach in this case to choose one person from the group and focus on him trying to cause the man to maximize damage in any case, You will be beating well enough to be able subsequently to recover that group, instead they left You lying half-dead on the road. And the one who rushed You all selymi be as a label then, as a sign for the police or Your friends / unless of course You are, alive and conscious/. In a hospital or in another place they will look for it, they can track the whole group later.

In Bulgaria some time ago there was a series of abductions of large /Bulgaria/ business people or their very close people-relatives for ransom. The cuts on the fingers, ears ... and other for the edification, if you svyazyvaetsya with the police or something myself doing. When they kidnap, they put someone and put a bag on his head. If you develop a vision of /for example, Denisov/ You can help yourself a lot later, when they released against ransom, so that you can find them ... :shock:

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Post by Смелый » Mon Mar 05, 2012 15:18

Андрей Кабанков wrote:Yes, I am calm and so :)
Take the example of me, with my weight of 68 kg and I am well physically developed, but I will never make it with two or three opponents, weighing a hundred kg, not because I'm afraid it's just beyond the physical possibilities for me, although I was engaged in melee combat with an instructor that trains special forces soldiers.
Having a weapon in my case a knife, I will be able to resist such enemies, even with weapons. These skills I got spending a lot of time and effort.
Since the completion of my training it's been a lot of years, a weapon I did not use even once, although I have it almost always.
No fear that I will attack I don't, idiots do not consider myself too.The weapon is just an amplifier of my physical and fighting qualities, and that's all.
Probably you have never beaten just so, and I sometimes, just for the fact that my future wife was living with me in one area, and I dared to go there.
We are talking about different things. In Your case, first You've practiced - and then having the skills and the training began to carry a knife. When the tiger enters the village, all the dogs with tails between their legs silently sitting in the booths or rush into the house. You have this case. A potential criminal and he reads You a more expensive to contact You. But here speech about other. On the legalization EN masse to have a weapon. This mass of citizens are not prepared either physically or psychologically. That untrained person is not able to adequately assess the situation and act in it. But he has a compelling argument is a weapon. And as a consequence, the overestimation of their abilities and capabilities. And "the effect of the slope" as a consequence.
You think if they legalize weapons - all citizens rush to arm themselves EN masse? The first criminal to be armed and about, structures and individuals. Will increase the crime situation in the country and then the citizens EN masse begin to arm themselves. That will even try to predict. In America, citizens are basically law-abiding. And what is happening. At us in the country to break the law - business as usual. Today we are not afraid to cross the street on red light. Ride on sidewalks. Throwing trash anywhere. Insulting, rude and so on. Day after tomorrow we will calmly and without hesitation to pull the trigger. We have such a mentality. Because, "Voroshilov sharpshooter" in our favor. And anyone living better than us is something Dracula and the right to life has not.
About Beale. Beat, but very little. I'm just a supporter of a peaceful solution to problems. bofara rights. Any thing is always possible later to get it. If you try.<

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Post by Практик » Mon Mar 05, 2012 17:30

Andrey Kabanov
  • Practices,height 180.
IMHO 10 kg would not hurt :) Yes to half, shoulders left))).

For weapons it happened that I talked a lot with people "otmorozhennymi" therefore, my experience is that there is not something good in it on the streets!
To whom the case was stated, who then Bosko prolamine because of this weapon.
Of course we live in a wonderful country where money decides much , but if you carry a knife and God forbid they speak good(especially true noticed about the work not of the brain and instincts i.e. cases can pile up hoo with a knife)
If PTS need to choose(IMHO): gas balonchik or Shocker for the eyes

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Mon Mar 05, 2012 17:59

Андрей Кабанков wrote:I prefer the knife.Quietly and efficiently in the melee.
but the real experience is?

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Post by Воффка » Mon Mar 05, 2012 18:15

Practices
Well, you compare or a folding knife what size and weight or a stun gun with a balloon :) Shocker so even the heaviest thing to carry is always necessary probably or guardian to be or really too much to wait for the attack. And how is it to be in the summer in shorts and t-shirt, the balloon is visible from about a Shocker at all... And the knife just yet and you can hide in a pocket, or clipped over the waistband under the shirt. Only in my opinion this is more of a hobby and love to man's toy rather than a real need. Good thing "Guevara" if you know how to use it, also very compact.
With BJ tools and other technologies sold on this site, in my opinion, it is extremely difficult to get into such a situation. Such a situation is seen and felt they are very good, exactly like the path of traversal.

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Post by Андрей Кабанков » Mon Mar 05, 2012 18:19

Have experience of sparring with a variety of people of different complexion and combat training,instructors, knife fighting,fighters of special forces,just Amateurs.
Psychological qualities allow to transfer this experience to the real situation,without any complexes about it on my part,but I hope that I'll never use.
Go to school NB a few classes,see what it is,he will appreciate it "quietly and efficiently" :)

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Mon Mar 05, 2012 18:28

Андрей Кабанков wrote:Has the experience of sparring with a variety of people of different complexion and combat training,instructors, knife fighting,fighters of special forces,just Amateurs.
Psychological qualities allow to transfer this experience to the real situation,without any complexes about it on my part,but I hope that I'll never use.
i.e. on the street did not cut it....
and I was a fool - cut.
good easy (he) escaped with non - penetrating, it was lucky that that idiot knew the cops, so when I brought said told me the hammer. Thank God the COP - norms. man, (I wanted to say no to the Jew :lol: )
my choice - KS.
the knife - the worst weapon. they can't fire a warning shot. in 99.999% it is more than enough.
got a knife - kill.

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Post by Андрей Кабанков » Mon Mar 05, 2012 18:35

Well,as correctly noted by Voffka,everyone chooses their own toys. :ay

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Mon Mar 05, 2012 18:52

Andrey Kabanov
oconoce to Spasova then went, respect az

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Post by Андрей Кабанков » Mon Mar 05, 2012 19:43

I went to see him sparring with their instructor,the author of the SAVIOUR,they had one class ,rated the school as very good.

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Post by Владимир Никонов 2 » Mon Mar 05, 2012 22:21

The main art is not to get into a dangerous situation. If got, it wrong.

And fight against company makes no sense. Need to run.

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Post by Смелый » Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:01

I'm trying to push to the next. Internal - external.
Example. There is a certain door. Behind it lies something you need. The door is locked. You need to insert the key and turn it. Hence, the problem is the key. Where can I get it if that's what's behind door you need? So. The key to opening the lock and essential, is the man himself. Personal qualities of an entity. Physical, psychological, chemical, biological, subconscious, genetic, etc. In General, the set of qualities. Match - get. No, either get out, or go and domerite necessary. And presumably, the kind of qualities should follow the path of the study itself, its internal state. In other words, that would change your external world you must first change your inner world.
The presence of a weapon provokes wearing it at the uncharacteristic actions by creating situations. Probably the effect of Egregores.
During class in one of the schools I have gained some kind of power protection. And now I have no thoughts on how to protect themselves. I just live and go about their business. Consciously used it only twice. First time in a day or two after installation (in a situation not very threatening but nonetheless. Probably the Egregore of a school and arranged for verification of effectiveness). For the second time in slightly more serious situation. The person against whom the used - left in full neponyatka. And the rest of the time I even do not remember about it. But situations are not. Probably the Subconscious mind works with her. Advice on where and what school give - I will not. Look for yourself. Either arm. If you want to.

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:24

Андрей Кабанков wrote:Well,as correctly noted by Voffka,everyone chooses their own toys. :ay
another provocative question Mona?
walking in the evening on the street. I see that in the alley a group of suckers with raskolniki bits (I can say Tajiks, Russian can - all the same), rape the girl.
Your actions?
I've been reading the views expressed in this topic, so I understand that me neither for man nor for a man not think, I think that if I give the weapon to start firing in all directions.
Probably will pass.
I will help them - these same "pundits" and aces knife fight and devour me (on the bench will send).
there is no feeling that it is my people. just some people
there's even enrolled in a situation do not get..... all the smart.....

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Your reaction I know.
Why climb with a knife for 3-4 people with sticks.... Niu Niu......
I'd have looked the part .... :) Gad I right? :lol:

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:49

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if the strap can fall and guosen chnlove 10 plugging

in General, of course a gun is a good thing in caring hands

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Post by bofara » Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:51

In the city where I grew up /now live in another place now almost every home has at least Makarov. When celebrated New year strelba machines heard. :? People have a lot of weapons, there are extra-legal weapons workshops /for example, when buying a gas gun from a small gun store, except when You don't strangers of witnesses, You are asked if you wish to change it into combat with live ammunition.
In this city, crime is normal for the country border. No attacks on others because they don't know what those other weapons can take out navstreche. :?

PS and bombs used for "angler". but these bombs makes them less a charge for "human" to have the opportunity to just "stun" the fish, and then save it in the pool for consumption fresh. :lol:

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Post by Смелый » Tue Mar 06, 2012 13:02

Шалтай Балтай wrote:
Андрей Кабанков wrote:Well,as correctly noted by Voffka,everyone chooses their own toys. :ay
another provocative question Mona?
walking in the evening on the street. I see that in the alley a group of suckers with raskolniki bits (I can say Tajiks, Russian can - all the same), rape the girl.
Your actions?
I've been reading the views expressed in this topic, so I understand that me neither for man nor for a man not think, I think that if I give the weapon to start firing in all directions.
Probably will pass.
I will help them - these same "pundits" and aces knife fight and devour me (on the bench will send).
there is no feeling that it is my people. just some people
there's even enrolled in a situation do not get..... all the smart.....

PS
Your reaction I know.
Why climb with a knife for 3-4 people with sticks.... Niu Niu......
I'd have looked the part .... :) Gad I right? :lol:
Personally, I do not Express the situation of a specific person. I'm talking about the situation with carrying a weapon. In the sense that I am against mass weapons in General and partial armament of the population in particular. To everyone can do as he wants. And to blame him or praise is not of my business. Life is about more than fancy. I just see the General level. Let's think about something else. The girl went to work in Europe. Albanians kidnapped and sold into slavery. Sexy. Hooked on the needle. Her Soul that did not know about the consequences? The subconscious not know? Then what ...., she's forgotten? We all have our lessons. The reasons we don't know. I will now insert rows from a distribution that you receive.

Hello!

Extensive reading reader mail, become unwitting witness of how life breaks many people.
This process is very painful, and many, literally, just shouting from the heartache.

On the one hand, want to help, even for free.
On the other hand to not do this as volunteers energy field will use measures of educational influence, not to disturb him in the work with the person field holds. Their actions of the field destroys a person's Ego, despite his resistance.
The more one resists, the worse the field conditions it places.


Cruel, but better not say. People are in a situation, it is HIS UPBRINGING. You have got and you quite that also take into account or consideration. Unless of course you have a job to protect, that is another matter.
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Post by Димас » Tue Mar 06, 2012 13:14

Смелый wrote:on the one hand, want to help, even for free.
On the other hand to not do this as volunteers energy field will use measures of educational influence, not to disturb him in the work with the person field holds. Their actions of the field destroys a person's Ego, despite his resistance.
The more one resists, the worse the field conditions it places.
Then you do not pay for pain and suffering? :( What "them" the soul itself has chosen to suffer, and I'll go ka by and will not interfere with their heart to life lessons. It's so easy to justify their weakness and cowardice. On the contrary, protect the weak, we will receive a Great lesson and experience own soul?

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Tue Mar 06, 2012 13:25

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Post by Смелый » Tue Mar 06, 2012 13:35

Димас wrote:
Смелый wrote:on the one hand, want to help, even for free.
On the other hand to not do this as volunteers energy field will use measures of educational influence, not to disturb him in the work with the person field holds. Their actions of the field destroys a person's Ego, despite his resistance.
The more one resists, the worse the field conditions it places.
Then you do not pay for pain and suffering? :( What "them" the soul itself has chosen to suffer, and I'll go ka by and will not interfere with their heart to life lessons. It's so easy to justify their weakness and cowardice. On the contrary, protect the weak, we will receive a Great lesson and experience own soul?
Maybe. Even probably. If the plans of the Soul it is. Who is against.
Here I see a lot of brave men. Do not feed bread, but give me a gun to vilify and to raise a brigade of scum. Shoot over your head, stick hot, smelling of gunpowder barrel in the mouth of the bastard and look him in the eyes, feeling..... Flag in hand and a fair wind.
And maybe for something more prosaic talk. For the life of the development. And then I look at you there is a solid "hot spots" and gang areas. Solid Harlem. Only have time to turn aside and choose. In this shoot, this is scary, this bat, and this protected.
Solid field for the display of heroic qualities.

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Post by Смелый » Tue Mar 06, 2012 13:40

ЗОМБИ wrote:demAs
don't argue with Bold his nick bold :)
For that, You have a very heroic nick.
Courage is not that would plunge headlong with a sword to attack. Courage that would not lose his head in any sitatsii, to bring maximum benefit with minimal losses or no losses.
However, zombies will never understand. Because they have no brains. They decide and they perform.

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Post by ЗОМБИ » Tue Mar 06, 2012 13:47

Bold
:lol: :lol: :lol: :D :D :D
yazombie-yohimbe
ya pateral rotten head... decide for me... kill ... kill... bc
(don't forget the calculator at home, so to calculate everything... intelligence, hahaha, who in such situations cut down at all)

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in example Humptyas in the case of the rapist, who is a boxer (his son raped) zamogilie... and rightly so, anything considered, just filled up and all...
(it would be good before that of the rapist to torture... to hang out... shutyu-shutyu :cry: )
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