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Post by МерКаБа » Fri Aug 27, 2010 20:54

Fortunately and unfortunately, everything is an illusion ))) this is reassuring )))

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Post by Dimas » Fri Aug 27, 2010 22:42

МерКаБа wrote:fortunately and unfortunately, everything is an illusion ))) this is reassuring )))
"You pretend, and I do not pretend.." (an old Soviet cartoon) :)

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Post by Смелый » Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:33

About the Insider. Here the main question - why did he do it? It is private, not advertised to the General public clan. At least so it is being heralded. Leak out eliminated. Otherwise, worthless to this clan. And if he leant out of it, so it was necessary to not only him but also his entire clan. That is, it was dosed release of the necessary information. Or, misinformation. Someone like that.
And about the structure of the world and the future of mankind, can not bathe. You can not guess. And on maps makes no sense to quit. All under the control of the Supreme and other Forces. As soon as we want to leave the cards (or take other similar actions), these Forces - here as here. And card need we slipped, and the picture is best of them in our conscious or subconscious draw.
In the esoteric many good books, but to rely on any - to stay in their own development. The truth is likely somewhere in the middle. Probably knows our Soul. The conscious and subconscious - are not assistants. In one of the books in the series of the ascended Masters, is the following thought: "We (the ascended) have reached unprecedented heights and excellence in its development, knowing that only a few knows, but even WE can't penetrate their thoughts to the Creator's plan."

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Post by Dimas » Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:17

Bold
Yeah, so in my opinion you need to study the Bible :)

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Post by Логик » Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:20

Dimas wrote:yeah, so in my opinion you need to study the Bible
Out of the frying pan into the fire!

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Post by Dimas » Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:23

Logik
well :)

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Post by Смелый » Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:49

I hesitate to ask: "And what the Bible has told us from the sky by Fax sent?"

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Post by Dimas » Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:07

Bold
And hto knows?! :)

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Post by Смелый » Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:25

Dimas wrote:Bold
And hto knows?! :)
I am about the same.
One time I was practicing next lesson. Hanging out in the room, feel the frustration. Approach the bookshelf at random, without looking, remove from the shelf any book at random, open any page, read an open place my. Dissatisfaction passed, coming in any sense. Maybe the Bible makes sense to try the same study. Time came to mind. And read it all.. I personally Have my brains this language is not recycled.

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Post by Маг.нет » Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:39

Смелый wrote:Suitable for a bookshelf, at random, without looking, remove from the shelf any book at random, open any page, read an open place my.
Interestingly, I often FIND the ANSWER to your question, not direct, in analogy (example of the question to the model information received from the book).

And the Bible is exactly what I read... (like answers to any questions of being, often described in metaphorical form).

Sincerely, MAG.no

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Post by Dimas » Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:45

Bold
Well, some are just so and use as a book I Ching...Sitting alone a few minutes, BAM, open and read a random text saying very much agree with the thoughts and position in the world that is..or ask the question - down the scheme :)
But it's still not a conjectural book.And read it like a novel or belletristika not worth it. Usually the Bible (specifically New Testament) is read for the year, every day a small piece, just a few absetzen, read, comprehended, in some churches there are even recommendations as to what the day to read. Better to do it every year, and then the Scripture will begin with time to reveal their secrets commensurate with experience and level Seeker.

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Post by Смелый » Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:57

In this case, I have very little life experience and level Seeker. But in any case, if someone has a craving or desire to obtain something from the Holy books, whether the Bible, the Koran, the Talmud, or anything else, if you have a craving you need to satisfy. Random nothing happens. Advisers in this situation - people who are willingly or not willingly, trying to bring down a specific person with his or her specific Way.

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Post by Dimas » Mon Aug 30, 2010 13:07

Bold
I think it is not necessary to perceive all human-advisers undesirable elements, and Vice versa. "Need to leave with him, drop the unnecessary". It often happens that then go and gather the most "unnecessary" :wink:

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Mon Aug 30, 2010 13:17

Dimas wrote:yeah, so in my opinion you need to study the Bible
go ahead
we will miss you .... :cry:

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Post by Dimas » Mon Aug 30, 2010 13:22

Humpty Baltay
This is you trying to hook me? :)

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Post by Люда » Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:42

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The Bible was written by Holy men of God led by the Holy Spirit.
For the very brave?..!all manner of blasphemy will be forgiven men but the blasphemy against the Holy spirit -no

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Post by Смелый » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:49

Люда wrote:bold
The Bible was written by Holy men of God led by the Holy Spirit.
For the very brave?..!all manner of blasphemy will be forgiven men but the blasphemy against the Holy spirit -no
Who is against. Wrote and wrote.
Then who wrote the Koran who wrote the Talmud?
Why do different people worship different Holy books?
What in Your opinion are the main?
And again, where did You read that I wrote the blasphemy against the Holy spirit? I just asked the question: "what is the Bible from heaven via Fax sent?"
Well, no, no. Another source of origin. Does not act as the opponent of all religious teachings and beliefs. On the contrary, I hold my own, but to extend about it will not.
Kstati enlighten: "What does "Holy Men of God?"
As it is not entirely clear.

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Post by Логик » Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:16

Люда wrote:the Bible was written by Holy men of God led by the Holy Spirit.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:14

Люда wrote:bold
The Bible was written by Holy men of God led by the Holy Spirit.
For the very brave?..!all manner of blasphemy will be forgiven men but the blasphemy against the Holy spirit -no
IATA scribe 8)

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Post by Раймис » Thu Sep 02, 2010 20:32

Шалтай Балтай wrote:Yes pile
http://www.insiderrevelations.ru
There's the same translation?

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Post by Михаил_ » Tue Sep 07, 2010 13:57

Шалтай Балтай wrote:
Dimas wrote:hmm..intuition...what are the criteria for evaluating the correctness of the intuitive material
interest
take card - playing.
not working.
I checked many times.
I had trained up to 90% in the old days gorbachevskih VIP courses. It was many years ago and old MS was in shock.... my wife had a 98% accuracy.
And a former colleague of mine had 99-100% gorbachevskih not on color maps, and the playing deck of cards. Ie they saw the exact map, not only the suit or the color.
Why not working ? because the skill to see that on paper this is one perception. This is useful..... but:
1. dealing with the past is one thing.
2. working with the future is another.
3. the vision of the present and the nose is the third
and reading something purely informational, not associated with events or objects of the material world is the third.
The result is on the cards I think now rolled much worse you can go to the second floor, remember where the roll of the deck on the shelf to check it, but laziness.
I already know which is worse.
But he has developed other qualities of vision much better.
Mistakes in life become smaller, but the "window dressing" can not arrange.
By the way, the above mentioned friend of mine was forced to go to underground way of life because of the fact that played in accurate intuition, though not their.... in the experiments, it was proven - it works and it's not a trick. But when he predicted the prospects for the business and he invested, and as a result not only lost everything, but he's so aggressively began to take away business that had to flee leaving everything behind. That is getting into the top ten.
There are plenty of examples of when associative links working not only on logic but not of interpretation in a sense of intuitive perception, can play with us interesting jokes. In other words - read one, and is perceived as more. Many times I saw people.
One thing is for sure, long sessions with the cards it is obvious to me as a whole helped, but they were only a weak starting mechanism, and only much later I realized what is wrong with them.
Everything else, we rarely totally unbiased writer. This adds jokes to the process of intuitive perception. As a personal view of the world.
For example, three people read the same information and talk without hearing each other what you see. They see close - descriptions coincide in General, but at the level of ABSTRACTION. And in the details of their consciousness the perceived colors in the next associative chains.
Examples like: "I see him behind the large panel in the chair" and the other "I see him sitting on a large stone in front of the rock." Both the same info a few different Sens and a clear example of the inaccuracy vision is not perfect.
At the level of simple intuition that (mistake) happens.
So not only is easy to be deceived, but to make a special trick, which will deceived many. It's real.
So intuition intuition, but the man is not only her and use all his qualities, at times and logic to critically assess what is happening. I know people, which is precisely the logic was spared, almost taken too much swinging intuitive perception.<

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Post by Михаил_ » Tue Sep 07, 2010 14:01

Dimas wrote:Bold
Well, some are just so and use as a book I Ching...Sitting alone a few minutes, BAM, open and read a random text saying very much agree with the thoughts and position in the world that is..or ask the question - down the scheme :)
But it's still not a conjectural book.And read it like a novel or belletristika not worth it. Usually the Bible (specifically New Testament) is read for the year, every day a small piece, just a few absetzen, read, comprehended, in some churches there are even recommendations as to what the day to read. Better to do it every year, and then the Scripture will begin with time to reveal their secrets commensurate with experience and level Seeker.
I recommend to think why and what there happens. It is a well-defined information process, which determines the effects.

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Post by Михаил_ » Tue Sep 07, 2010 14:08

Смелый wrote: Who is against. Wrote and wrote.
Then who wrote the Koran who wrote the Talmud?
Why do different people worship different Holy books?
What in Your opinion are the main?
Each contains its own model..
The world consists of the amount of models, and the separation of different - gives pole and improves opportunity management.
Stronger reading is embedded in a specific model.
Why model is the only method of control.
One person has freedom of choice within the General trajectory of the world, it cannot fundamentally change the world if it is not already mortgaged most optimal energy trajectory (i.e., the principle of direct rolling from the hill, not on a plan there's that). The world's too big compared to one person.
But if people will write a very popular book -it can dramatically change the world, affecting masses of people who will be involved in the process, their weight will be commensurate to the changes.
However, most of the even very brilliant books are not considered Holy Scripture.
Therefore, in this case we are dealing with authorized (i.e. approved by someone) systems changes the world, operating from different angles and run at different times.
The difference between a popular book and a Bible in depth a large group of people in a new picture of the world. For us now it is covered with "history", but it just appeared, and the depth of the planet's history much, much more.....

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Post by Михаил_ » Tue Sep 07, 2010 14:31

Dimas wrote:Michael_
Misha, what about the "Vlastilina rings" (for example)? :) Any Orc and Goblin at least (those whom we see every day on Federal channels are not considered) I'm on the streets have not yet met...Millions of people read this book, read with emotion, a lot of the book very much, took a series of films,and from the time of its writing enough time has passed... It's also a kind of program, but the world it will not move :? and these books a lot... I understand that implementation may not occur literally, but then the story of today's realities can be customized anything...
Here's an excerpt from the site on the formation of reality..nothing's happening..." present picture of the World created by the Word. In one case it was the oral sermon, and in the other Text. But I must say that the formation Pattern of the future impact that is the idea. I must say that due to the small number of original authors in the past, their work created the vectors that guide the development of humanity. At present, there are authors trying to influence the development of society, many, each of them tries to steer the process in their favor. The resulting combination of vectors forms an analogue of Brownian motion, and the influence of individual authors in the development of mankind neutralized. However, the authors have developed a series of books with the same picture of the World. despite the fact that their works are different characters, they live in the same world. In the case of the popularity of this series, its impact on society can be quite strong. In some cases, other authors support the idea of the author and are beginning to support the existence of the Universe he developed. The option of the collective work can create a strong enough vector that can change the overall situation in society."
Was created "society" tolkiyenistov, battles,etc., but the magic of that world we are no closer.
May be close at hand... and perhaps quite strongly.
The question is, what was, what has changed and what factors in this amount developed.
It is not all literally.
So the sun changed color, you have to believe the vast majority, but shocks to the world will be enormous, from the other side demonstrates how much needs to be internal changes people. Ie this to happen, first the absolute majority needs to happen in a disaster, which will be comparable with the world - the collapse of one worldview and the birth of an entirely alternative.
It's really small. Not really.
However, the problem is in numbers.
In cases when there is no collision of interests of different groups of people, i.e. the collision of different pictures of the world, there will be problems changes. As in the example with the moon.
Ie in a given area of the anomaly is possible if there is almost no one.
How will affect the community RPG-schnick tolkiyenistov?
Will. In General, it will be in proportion to their size to increase the magical component of the world - its plasticity, compressibility effects.
But what are the factors you need to consider?
1. describes the world differs from the real pretty much. To materialize it entirely on top of this it will not work, because the fans too much less ordinary people and they live in society that pushes such an impact.
2. All the magic of the world happens in the right surroundings. In this sense, some "Harry Potter" has had a much greater physical effect, because there the action smoothly and the farther the more intersect with the ordinary world, even in the area of cities.
3. in our world there are factors significantly blocking its plasticity, i.e. the variability under the influence of thought and they are introduced artificially. And on both sides. Ie this is a program of the society and models of the world instilled since childhood and purely physical factors.
The most powerful of them is the high population density, if one wants to do something, he is faced with the passive resistance of millions, in the picture of the world which this change - no. It's hard to be in dissonance with their world view. So somewhere in the sparsely populated areas to obtain visible and tangible effects of its effects easier. They should either be such that it is not surprising, and conflict with the picture of the world of others.

In other words, the influence of the same tolkiyenistov and it is significant. But it's fuzzy other factors.

Another thing is that because of the difference of the worlds described, it is apparent that they also formed his astral world, where everything happens as it is.

Mediumint my friend failed many times in the worlds of gamers, only then I realized where it goes. Bright patterns, tactile and other sensations on top. The brightness of the display - higher than in the regular world. All completely real, but the events crazy.
In doing so he never in these games are not played, only then reading the description of one anecdotal stories, I realized where I was recently and at the same time, it became clear with other similar cases with him.
Now with these virtual worlds just interesting.
Ie, these mechanisms need to understand, because they have a more significant impact than you might think.
Many people live entirely in the virtuality. We can say that we are all constantly it.
We perceive the world through sitcoms, TV, news, commercials. The city kind of screen. The reflection of the above.. It is not fully true.
As a result, many or almost all the citizens are almost completely fixed in the virtual world more than real.
This does not change the real world for a number of reasons, there are things that are not possible. Or it changes very slowly, and the world consists not only of cities and citizens.
But it affects the people themselves, their minds and health.

By the way very interesting the impact of the Internet and computer technology as quite the opposite factor - retaining the stability of the world. Why? Because this is a fantastic sized ball that holds structural connection to objects in their old zapechatlena the form (text, photo, video). and this information continuously modulates the space of the signals (transmitted high frequency communication channels).
This is a huge stabilizing factor in fixing the world "as is".<

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