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Post by художник » Fri Jan 23, 2009 13:22

Eugene Kosh
In General I work with the pendulum stars :) ( it seriously), as the answers you receive. Just wanted to discuss how to feel about all this. I think Alexander is not against this topic in your post

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Post by художник » Fri Jan 23, 2009 13:31

Евгений Кош wrote: if this is to model visually
Opportunities like that didn't come to mind. Will need to try.

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Post by художник » Fri Jan 23, 2009 13:44

If anyone is interested view - http://www.nnm-club.info/forum/viewtopic.php?t=83634
I have where that is, all four parts if you need perezalil on "people"

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Post by Александр_ » Fri Jan 23, 2009 14:03

The pendulum had to work.
But it did not agree with him.
A lot of false positives.

Need to work very hard.
Here's my buddy Igor, the fan worked for three hours a day.
And now he says that maybe without the pendulum do.
Talks about a sort of feeling that rises inside, if something goes wrong.

By the way artist nice you have a thing with the ladies and a dog.
Catchy.

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Post by Евгений Кош » Fri Jan 23, 2009 14:21

I gave the titles of books, which you can learn.
well, myself in addition :)

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Post by Евгений Кош » Fri Jan 23, 2009 14:23

Александр_ wrote:Talks about a sort of feeling that rises inside, if something goes wrong.
quite.. in itself I feel.

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Post by художник » Fri Jan 23, 2009 14:25

Александр_ wrote:But it did not agree with him.

A lot of false positives.
I meant in terms of discussion. But how much we can rely on the accuracy of the answer about what future events from his subconscious(superconscious)? And as far as our assessment of those responses is correct? :)
Александр_ wrote:by the Way the artist cute you have a thing with the ladies and a dog.
This series of works, written in order to suit the interiors.

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Post by Евгений Кош » Fri Jan 23, 2009 14:27

художник wrote:I meant in terms of discussion. But how much we can rely on the accuracy of the answer about what future events from his subconscious(superconscious)? And as far as our assessment of those responses is correct? Smile
IMHO, my proposal this discussion to do after studying the material.. and the conversation will be more productive :)
take a search on Amazon and the author itself ( starting with her first book to the last). Books volume, but the technique is working.
then it will be possible to discuss the nuances :)

http://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/268684/
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Post by Александр_ » Fri Jan 23, 2009 14:28

At the seminar on the pendulum, the specialist told me that to answer questions can not only subconscious, but also the spirit which we sit.
So he taught safety.
But its lack of bulkiness.
In General I thought it was interesting.
But information about what we can communicate anyone, I remember as quite logical.

Beam I have.
It way too says something similar.

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Post by Евгений Кош » Fri Jan 23, 2009 14:35

Александр_ wrote:In the seminar on the pendulum, the specialist told me that to answer questions can not only subconscious, but also the spirit which we sit.
So he taught safety.
But its lack of bulkiness.
In General I thought it was interesting.
But information about what we can communicate anyone, I remember as quite logical.
see more :)
of course, if a pendulum to work with the letters ( like make up words) that this practice I do not approve of.. but at least a "Yes-no" is another question.
but!
the main goal in the other.. and that there is no difference - the pendulum, or sensations, or the images.. the main goal is that the method of training to weed out the ( possible) influence of "external" forces that often appear as a reaction of the subconscious and achieve sustainable channel of communication with the subconscious.. and it doesn't matter what happens, the pendulum, or something else ( how to set up the system). And that without investigating this issue ( in practice) and will be in ignorance -- whose wishes you fulfill, whose influences you are exposed :)

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Post by художник » Fri Jan 23, 2009 14:40

Eugene Kosh
In a nutshell these books "Multidimensional medicine. The self-diagnostic system and self-healing of human" focused on medicine or have a broader focus? All the same, the material is large :) :roll:

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Post by Евгений Кош » Fri Jan 23, 2009 14:44

художник wrote:Eugene Kosh
In a nutshell these books "Multidimensional medicine. The self-diagnostic system and self-healing of human" focused on medicine or have a broader focus? All the same, the material is large :) :roll:
The book is focused on medicine, BUT ! :) there is given an interesting model of man in which you may engage not only in medicine but also in celesta understanding.
multidimensional medicine is more than medicine that you think.
Except my approval of this book is more very difficult to say, because it is necessary initially to read to fully understand what it was about.

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Post by Евгений Кош » Fri Jan 23, 2009 14:46

художник wrote:All the same, the material is very voluminous Smile Rolling Eyes
Yes, body..
because the model needs to be spelled out in detail, otherwise there will be "white spots" which will work as it is not clear.. and this is not knowledge and ignorance :)

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Post by художник » Fri Jan 23, 2009 14:55

Eugene Kosh
Thanks, I'll try to find

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Post by Александр_ » Sat Jan 24, 2009 0:17

Евгений Кош wrote:see more
of course, if a pendulum to work with the letters ( like make up words) that this practice I do not approve of.. but at least a "Yes-no" is another question.
I wonder where I wrote about the word ?

I in practice have worked with a pendulum and realized that even the technique of "Yes-no" will not succeed without the groundwork of skill.

And the time for development of skill a lot.
And later I wrote about it.

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Post by Евгений Кош » Sat Jan 24, 2009 16:33

Александр_ wrote:I Wonder where I wrote about the word ?
then you will arrive in Odessa :)
- and where I wrote what You said about "words"? az
Александр_ wrote:And time to develop skill a lot.
the question is - what does not require developments? (regarding self-development)

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Post by Александр_ » Sat Jan 24, 2009 18:33

Eugene Kosh
Sorry Jack, shoot the breeze there's no time.

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Post by Евгений Кош » Sun Jan 25, 2009 18:23

Александр_ wrote:Eugene Kosh
Sorry Jack, shoot the breeze there's no time.
Completely.
Now, we recall the basic question with which I wanted to share:

"I can say that MM's time to transfer to the rank of the secondary and start using made Smile
In particular - quite effectively you can take care of your health at the level (to start) removing any acute conditions ( headaches, etc). "

It is really impossible.
And some cases ( a) even like fiction.
The main thing clear to find and find out what hurts and where, and preferably at least a guess on what ( if pain in the "region" and not understand what hurts you and so to work, but I have the effect was smaller).
Next, clearly indicate that's what's bothering you and tell my subconscious to start the process which will remove this "fail".
I have it running at least in one case out of 3. the rest feel that a simple description of the symptoms, just not enough (inner feelings tell you that you have to dig deeper).

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Post by Евгений Кош » Mon Jan 26, 2009 16:14

as food for thought

http://lemyakin.narod.ru/Fks/mrg.htm

an interesting explanation.

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Post by Евгений Кош » Mon Jan 26, 2009 16:37

very interesting idea
"Lucid dreaming should be practiced in the final period of sleep, when testing the Soul finished. Focus on the images of dreams increases material density and prevents the destructive action of sensual images. Transferring attention to the images of sensory perceptions contributes to their material density and stops the dream. Should not shy away from unpleasant dreams. You need to learn how to suppress them in my sleep. Awakening should practice in achieving the desired goals in the plot of the dream with a positive emotional attitude. In this case, the memory RF will keep the software installation successful conclusion. All in all dreams we need to strive for a favorable resolution of problems and to be active in this direction. The accumulation of such programs emotional quality of dreams will rise"

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Post by Александр_ » Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:29

master would Wasps to start ...

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Post by Евгений Кош » Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:21

Александр_ wrote:master would be a Wasp for a start ...
after I satisfied myself that Wasps (no dimera) - very steadily happen from the power of desire ' intentions, I still left them alone.
In the waking state for me is very much interesting so much that just not to Havo night, try to give your body a rest :)
When in the OS, first didn't know what to do there, because it was not ready, the second said "Wasps will be carried out only by my desire without desire - not want," and walked out of the Wasp.
Now more interesting is another.
In dreams I try to sharpen the "core I", that is what would never dreamed of trying to deduce the situation in a positive way. It's not the OS, because there is always the presence of a scenario which sometimes are pressured and when the situation begins to steer in the positive - I felt this pressure. (this attitude in the dream, I started to create unconsciously, and as if something from the depths of the soul gave the impetus to not be a doll in your sleep, and to exercise your mind and awareness of inner feelings which are pushing me towards a particular action and awareness, their critical minds and what is going on and how it will affect me ( in the scenario of sleep))
I have a feeling that it is more valuable than Wasps..
For Wasps there is a very high mind control that does not apply special efforts and to develop their consciousness and in a dream scenario, that's where the real work on the development of consciousness (I would say - awareness of understanding )of their actions in terms of the scenario of the dream.

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Post by Александр_ » Tue Jan 27, 2009 12:49

You're right.
I agree with your development strategy.

But the situation with scenarios - and do not you think that there is some material that still need to work to remove the leads. Then maybe the subconscious and will not simulate such scenarios.

I think this is the reason.
Will work out those situations that are repeated in a dream, will become free automatically.

By the way about what to do in the Wasps - did you read Michael's Rainbow ?
His first book on Wasps ?

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Post by Евгений Кош » Tue Jan 27, 2009 14:12

Александр_ wrote:But on the situation with scenarios - and do not you think that there is some material that still need to work to remove the leads. Then maybe the subconscious and will not simulate such scenarios.

I think this is the reason.
Will work out those situations that are repeated in a dream, will become free automatically.
Sasha, I thought so too until a certain time.
Then, in the same dream it's the realization that in dreams ( a bit easier model) comes as the experience of the past and predicting the future with a proposal ( programming) behaviors and the same realization has occurred a clear understanding of the depth of my soul that my development (development of consciousness) is full and more harmonious if I participate in the act of creation of the scenarios and their sleep and at that moment I felt something new , some new versions of their awareness and even felt it at the level of the senses of the body I felt a surge of energy and realized the owl consciousness (if I may say so :)). I felt the support coming from the depths of yourself and the joy :) (this is seen as a sign of proper promotion )
Further considered the situation in the dream and realized that a dream is likely to repeat that the consciousness in a dream also exposed to the complexes (the same) as in the waking state and I made a choice in a dream is exposed to the effects of these systems here on this subconscious again and again ( by the way this was rare for me) were given the same dream again, so I finally feel that I'm not a conscious choice and manipulation of the complex. And! now I noticed how to calculate hidden complexes :) in the dream, I feel ( now rare) reaction to what is happening and can fly to perform - if the soul responds to what I going to do now.. and as soon as you feel the internal support, then you know that this is my.. and as you begin to feel pressure ( this seems like something makes postupaet so and not otherwise) and feel the emptiness inside, or even sometimes discomfort, then you know what it is caught on the complex. Then after sleep from this situation bring in the mental cinema and begin to spin to find the ropes that you can pull this complex and to understand it.
Александр_ wrote:by the Way about what to do in the Wasps - did you read Michael's Rainbow ?
His first book on Wasps ?
Rainbow read, but in terms of methods of joining Wasps, but then left alone books because I began to turn my way.
And what to do about the Wasps, I quietly hear from the wife, I have a Rainbow reads :)
For me now interesting development in terms of improvement ( although my wife says that a rainbow in the Wasps also this topic), but to me they are interesting in bodrstvovaniya to "on the go" to take your questions, before reaching the stage of OSA. IMHO it's more current in terms of speed of interaction with them.
Also of interest in terms of creating the "tools" of consciousness :)<

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Post by Александр_ » Wed Jan 28, 2009 0:54

excellent results.
looks like you decided to dig a little deeper.

you don't even know what to advise.
it would be interesting to observe but what to add ...

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