Diary. My impressions, feelings, experiences with light, sound.

Александр_ · Post by **Александр_** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:35

http://www.vuzlib.net/beta3/html/1/27169/27268/
http://ariom.ru/wiki/Pxova

this is a link where you can read more about pove.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:46

I read a documentary essay on British traveler to Tibet .
there he described a conversation with people years meditating in caves in search of God.
so the first 10 years, they're invisible.
then 10 years sometimes God appeared sound , then visually .
then another 10 years later they not only saw and felt the presence of God , but could communicate with him !!! so they spent the rest of my life !!!
IN DOING SO, THEY RECOGNIZED THAT IT'S JUST A HALLUCINATION ....

the book is very interesting , I forgot the title and author's name ... read it in the paper , a very long time .

аурик · Post by **аурик** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:03

Гость wrote:IN doing so, THEY RECOGNIZED THAT IT's JUST a HALLUCINATION ....

They also recognize that the world is just an illusion....)))

аурик · Post by **аурик** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:05

http://www.buddhism.ru/info/ole-plan.php

Любитель · Post by **Любитель** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 13:20

Alexander, how is it that on the forum You write fairly regularly, and on messages in the PM not responding for weeks? It is from unwillingness to speak, or from lack of time or for some other reason?

Александр_ · Post by **Александр_** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 23:52

Oh, sorry, completely forgot to look there.

Евгений Кош · Post by **Евгений Кош** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 15:29

Евгений Кош wrote:Friends,
tell me books on visualisatie..
my situation is that I can pick up the resulting image and more Menne with him "manage" .. but also really see the "orange basket" ( i.e., to implement it your items) - nifiga does not work.. ( I only imagine. but you really look like on the photo does not work (but it only "picked up" from passing in front of the eyes images) ))
can someone a good book on visualization ever read and it helped him - share the link.

The intention thing is serious.
Now have experience of visualization.. that I wanted

however "screen" happens to be a little..

in the process a couple of times of rendering.. (pictured yourself sitting on the next chair) - suddenly jumped consciousness to the point where it was a couple of seconds.. (initially this desire nebylo.. just wanted to introduce\you to visualize the setting of the room from another point) - the feeling is very unusual..
the feeling of two bodies.. there is now consciousness and the second sense where the physical body.. a vision from the point where you were.. but sometimes the vector of direction of vision did not coincide with the initial designs.
the second projection also feel like the legs are on the floor and hands on his knees.. just everything is in duplicate..
sit on a chair which has a short back .. and when you feel in 2 places ( where the physical body - there feeling away as if on the second plan) that the physical body sometimes begins to move out a hundred chairs and I am afraid to fall and it returns me back..
Lying on the couch while these outputs did not work.

Александр_ · Post by **Александр_** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 23:12

Eugene Kosh
you wrote about the screen.

the screen is what you imagine or see directly ?

Евгений Кош · Post by **Евгений Кош** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:15

the screen is what you see directly as a separate picture.. it like goes from imaginary to real, and once moved, you see as if really looking at him ( though Galazov closed).
appears at the beginning of a little white dot.. then she uvelichivaet and the white point of the image is visible

Александр_ · Post by **Александр_** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 20:14

very interesting.
and the images of these do you never change ?

I will explain what I mean.
the thing is that when I imagine something, I see it in General, but when you start to look, that's what I'm looking at becomes clearer, and everything around it blurry.
ie to cover the entire picture is very clearly not go out, how about you ?

and how'd you come by that ?

Александр_ · Post by **Александр_** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 20:15

very interesting.
and the images of these do you never change ?

I will explain what I mean.
the thing is that when I imagine something, I see it in General, but when you start to look, that's what I'm looking at becomes clearer, and everything around it blurry.
ie to cover the entire picture is very clearly not go out, how about you ?

and how'd you come by that ?

Александр_ · Post by **Александр_** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 20:17

very interesting.
and the images of these do you never change ?

I will explain what I mean.
the thing is that when I imagine something, I see it in General, but when you start to look, that's what I'm looking at becomes clearer, and everything around it blurry.
ie to cover the entire picture is very clearly not go out, how about you ?

and how'd you come by that ?

Евгений Кош · Post by **Евгений Кош** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 14:05

I have these images as if in a white screen ..
the screen starts with white dots, which is becoming more and more.
on each side of this point is darkness.(eyes closed)
about you look tried..because somehow holistically perceive the image from the screen.. and when I want to examine some detail, just enlarge to full screen the right place "pictures".
fully maximize the screen on all the field to date has not worked.

how come?
don't know

just thought about it that way

Александр_ · Post by **Александр_** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 15:11

interesting.
I look also tried, but except for colored spots, which I interpreted as the projection of light through the eyelids, there was nothing else.

interesting, and about the Bronnikov technique have you heard ?
they are there, too, with the screen working.
maybe it's the same screen ?

Евгений Кош · Post by **Евгений Кош** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 15:47

I specifically bought a lightproof mask...
and what bought:
at some point (after a certain period of meditation) I started following through 10-15 minutes of the dive I started to hear the squeak, growing as if overhead was included white light that I saw.. ie as if brought to the top of the head (front ) bulb.. I thought it was my eyes lifted and I see the light in the room..
well, I bought a light-tight mask, had curtained the Windows and lay down to meditate.. and BAMS still the same.. squeak.. and the white spot in the center between the eyebrows which then expands .. it turns out that the upper part "with closed eyes" "sees" light and the lower dark..
squeak is growing a white spot increases and then the squeak disappears and I begin to see in the white spot the different "pictures".. and sometimes there is only the light and all.
in General the audit showed that this is not ever and not any light source (external) and something else.

about the colored spots.. I had them before the emergence of white spots.. and was a few months..
I even about it on the forum wrote that when you start to hear the Massage of the brain or healing.. in the middle of the dark screen appear colored spots.. then when I started looking at them was that they have a certain structure.. they still shimmer with each other.. and that depends on what you listen to.
then they stopped appearing, but I began to see white light.

About Bronnikova heard, even bought a couple of CDs.. but not yet simulta in his system.

Князевский · Post by **Князевский** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 18:08

Евгений Кош wrote:I bought a lightproof mask...
and what bought:
at some point (after a certain period of meditation) I started following through 10-15 minutes of the dive I started to hear the squeak, growing as if overhead was included white light that I saw.. ie as if brought to the top of the head (front ) bulb.. I thought it was my eyes lifted and I see the light in the room..
well, I bought a light-tight mask, had curtained the Windows and lay down to meditate.. and BAMS still the same.. squeak.. and the white spot in the center between the eyebrows which then expands .. it turns out that the upper part "with closed eyes" "sees" light and the lower dark..
squeak is growing a white spot increases and then the squeak disappears and I begin to see in the white spot the different "pictures".. and sometimes there is only the light and all.
in General the audit showed that this is not ever and not any light source (external) and something else.

about the colored spots.. I had them before the emergence of white spots.. and was a few months..
I even about it on the forum wrote that when you start to hear the Massage of the brain or healing.. in the middle of the dark screen appear colored spots.. then when I started looking at them was that they have a certain structure.. they still shimmer with each other.. and that depends on what you listen to.
then they stopped appearing, but I began to see white light.

About Bronnikova heard, even bought a couple of CDs.. but not yet simulta in his system.

about how You flooded!

I have a light too, but from MM just in my head, and I say that the pineal so says about himself.
also, I said that meditation should be strictly controlled by the teacher, otherwise you perinephric the psyche and in the future it may lead to sad results.
what do you think colleagues?<

Александр_ · Post by **Александр_** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 19:30

Князевский wrote:also, I said that meditation should be strictly controlled by the teacher, otherwise you perinephric the psyche and in the future it may lead to sad results.

I agree, safety needs to be.
here's where to find it ?
there are so many tools and rules of use ..........

Александр_ · Post by **Александр_** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 19:39

Eugene Kosh

interesting experience.
so communicate and don't even know what specialists are near there.

and while practicing some of the meditation there was this spot ?
any, any particular meditation ?
auditioned if some discs or discs that are listened to separately ?

Князевский · Post by **Князевский** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:00

Александр_ wrote:
Князевский wrote:also, I said that meditation should be strictly controlled by the teacher, otherwise you perinephric the psyche and in the future it may lead to sad results.
I agree, safety needs to be.
here's where to find it ?
there are so many tools and rules of use ..........

http://arupa-manas.narod.ru/BASE/rerich/PSICHISM.RAR
there is a ban, but there are no rules except one - the teacher should be always.

Александр_ · Post by **Александр_** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:44

I rhetorically about the rules ...

me something to shake a big problem.
so I think these rules are for thin people like my friend which from the body to leave - just close your eyes...

Евгений Кош · Post by **Евгений Кош** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:06

Александр_ wrote:Eugene Kosh

and while practicing some of the meditation there was this spot ?
any, any particular meditation ?
auditioned if some discs or discs that are listened to separately ?

I have a hodgepodge of handwritten directions..

what I usually do.
1. Every 2 days - meditation on achieving the state of "nobody nowhere no thoughts (of his)).. in this I get to myself relaxation is enough good ( about 15-20 minutes while immersed) and after immersion (once passed the stage of "don't know where my arms, legs and where I" just perceive what is happening
2. every 3rd day - practice visualizing yourself in a particular place.. trying to consider the environment.. trying to get a clear picture.. is the most energy consuming thing.. because we have a very, very hard to keep the focus of the thoughts in the stream.
in this "meditation" as soon as you feel that started the vibration switch to workouts out-of-body.
exits from the body right in the middle of the day at any time - it happened only once.. and then I noticed.. ( don't know how most) at the moment I'm doing this through a phase of\the feeling of "primaryphone" becomes sleepy and would fall through that feeling.. the feeling as if abruptly going to sleep.. but... appear with all the sensations around the point where you wanted.. but at the same time feel and the physical body, but it is sometimes for me difficult to receive sensations from two locations

on it, not to get lost in such a situation.

Александр_ · Post by **Александр_** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 20:38

clearly, it's great you have all established.
and I'm working on so that you have in paragraph 1 is written.
I came to the conclusion that the ability to enter into a trance (as described) is most useful and is the key for many types of training - well, for example, to exit the body.
I understand your 1 able focus 10 at the Monroe - body asleep mind awake.

and now I'm working on that manageable to get into this state.
don't know how you are in this state, it would be interesting to know.
and I'm just chillin', then the severity of the heat ... and rocking the astral body.
sometimes it turns out.
yesterday even started a slight vibration, but it is intensified.
what about you get into this state and how vibrations work, how it increase ?

Карил · Post by **Карил** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 23:08

Евгений Кош wrote:every 2 days - meditation on achieving the state of "nobody nowhere no thoughts (of his)).. in this I get to myself relaxation is enough good ( about 15-20 minutes while immersed) and after immersion (once passed the stage of "don't know where my arms, legs and where I" just perceive what is happening

Sitting, lying? Meditating focus on what? Or Vice versa deconcentrates, leaving all feelings and thoughts?

Евгений Кош · Post by **Евгений Кош** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:56

1.mostly lying.. but all the feelings.. I feel that in the seat better would be - sit in a chair.. I feel that it would be better in the other room on the sofa there.. and lie in a comfortable position..
2.in meditation on "perception" - just start to relax.. if you think much in the way then concentrate on the breath ( breathe under account).
in meditation, to move the attention I need in place - focus on the intention to go and "flow" which only applies to this ( this is the most energy-intensive and requires advanced ability to maintain thoughts in the right direction)
3. The vibrations are with them.. I haven't quite cope.. basically the time of "transition" I'm going through the voltage condition of rapid failure like much sleepy. 1-3 seconds.. the main thing is not to get scared of this, and to "grasp" for the stream ( words can't describe).. after 1-3 seconds as you get into full flow.. condition "navarivanija" sharply goes.. but the sensation of a condition is permanent.

Александр_ · Post by **Александр_** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 21:55

Евгений Кош wrote:3. The vibrations are with them.. I haven't quite cope.. basically the time of "transition" I'm going through the voltage condition of rapid failure like much sleepy. 1-3 seconds.. the main thing is not to get scared of this, and to "grasp" for the stream ( words can't describe).. after 1-3 seconds as you get into full flow.. condition "navarivanija" sharply goes.. but the sensation of a condition is permanent.

how do you keep the mind aware and not provalivaetsja to sleep ?