This forum destroys faith in God!

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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:45 pm Georgy Grachev, Igor Melnik

MANIPULATION OF THE INDIVIDUAL:

The organization, ways and technologies of information and psychological impact...

The truth is that such proceedings are pending against each state. And against America as well as against the Soviet Union. State its role in the globalization process is already simple repertuarchik otigrali. Now, according to plan (which the author otnyut not a performer by the name DULLES), they must be destroyed. Replaced by the universal state in the planet.

By the way, who saw the original plan DULLES? In what year did the speech and where? And the quotes that much, and where are unknown.

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Well...it is easy to come to this conclusion otherwise the cow would not give myself to eat at the worst...

Dimas you never cheated (analog - tried to eat)? Especially in his youth? And what did you do in order to avoid being cheated (ate)? All people ever cheated, even on the little things. But all people have the consciousness and intellect... But not everyone can resist the hype.
The cow is also doing everything in her power and if she ate that's not a sign that she has no consciousness.

Interesting, let's all become in the world according to you. After some time, don't want any leader or shaman of the tribe to take a little more power, an extra wife, etc.? And off it went again.

No, it will not appear (see MOP Right)
http://www.tartaria.ru/Obshestvo/histor ... /Kopa.aspx
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Копное_право
If you read, we will continue to talk about it. If not, that's your business, but further discussion needs to stop.
I have my position fairly clear and outlined in detail.

the point is there in human nature.

Yes, everything is normal with human nature.

We are all different, someone talented, someone smart,someone is an idiot (sorry),someone lazy or sick with something, little

This is all that you have described is the result of socialization in society. Just so people than not are sick. The disease is the source. The laziness is the source.
Everyone from birth is genius and personality. But after socialization, especially after learning in school, not everyone.

So You did specifically to change the world?How do You see it?Communism?or what?

If you are on social order, see higher - MOP right.<

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Now, according to plan (which the author otnyut not a performer by the name DULLES), they must be destroyed. Replaced by the universal state in the planet.

Who is the author?

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Who is the author?

If I had known...would have written.
All we can see is concrete action to implement the plan. Therefore, a plan exists.
As an example:
As proved by the existence of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, without having the original of this Covenant? Just checked the German and the red army in 1939. written in the copy of the Covenant (as far as I remember, it was a slide of microfilm). Actions and written entirely coincided.
Later, under Gorbachev, the Soviet government acknowledged the existence of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.

[Dimas]

Logik
Yes,I read - not inspired. You understand that in the modern world it is a utopia.

This is all that you have described is the result of socialization in society. Just so people than not are sick. The disease is the source. The laziness is the source.
Everyone from birth is genius and personality. But after socialization, especially after learning in school, not everyone.

Yeah, You saw kids who did not passed the process of socialization? I would, to put it mildly, a genius is not called. What they were left to themselves, the society they were not raped "his" upbringing. And personality of the man is in the process of socialization and education. I do not like Wikipedia,but it's easier http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Социализация
There I saw the featured comrade Trekhlebov...Hmm..I read his "Finist. Clear Falcon Russia"...Absolutely agree with the right. enforcement bodies for what seemed to him for inciting ethnic hatred. The second half of the book - Frank Nazism, veiled...Yes there is..nothing veiled.

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If I had known...would have written.
All we can see is concrete action to implement the plan. Therefore, a plan exists.

the plan (Prophecy) exists. Does this mean that everything else written in the book of Revelation, etc. too, right? What is it then for the powerful force that takes this plan? Egregore, which controls the people who are in the "unconsciousness" state?
A higher power? A race of powerful men? Aliens? Angels?
Maybe demAs executes the plan? By the way in the office hangs an American flag...
And he even mentioned about Nokia, the managers of which (a few people) manage the entire production process, being in a small office in Nokia... and the beaver is just a cover...

And why globalization is the plan, a mixture of races - the same plan but the Second Coming is a hoax?

[Dimas]

maybe demAs executes the plan? By the way in the office hangs an American flag...

damn..caught

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yeah,I read - not inspired. You understand that in the modern world it is a utopia.

Nor what utopia do not see here. If this society existed in reality and not in fantasy writers, so it can be built again. Our ancestors lived for thousands of years. Yes, you need to choose either life in modern society, or life in the community. You can't sit with one ass on two chairs.

MOP the right and healthy family are inseparable.
The present society is doing everything to destroy the family.
Healthy family is the first enemy of the system. Parents can teach values to a child is different from imposed by the system. Children first listen to their parents, then everyone else. These are the laws of nature. Parents can teach what is safe to move to slaughter for unnecessary imposed ideals is not worth it. What system of government is the enemy, not a friend. What the Motherland and the State are two different things.
It is for this big effort to destroy the family. From the range of tools is enormous. From "Sex, drugs and ro-n-roll" until the enactment of special laws. To see more fatherlessness, a woman in a modern society is entitled to destroy the family, leaving the children to themselves. On the right of the father to sneeze. Already there are crowds who want to educate your child obedient cog in the system - the hospital, nursery, kindergarten, school, Church. The role of the father in the upbringing of the child in this case niveliruya.
To deprive a child of parents educating them as you have is very old. The Turks, on bolkanah, during hostilities, massacred all the local people. Left only boys that age are not yet able to remember parents. One of these boys was raised by the most fierce warriors loyal to the Sultan, not knowing no mercy to adults nor to children. So brought Janissaries.

yeah, have You seen the kids who did not much frightened, but the process of socialization?

If you live in a society, the socialization process can not be avoided. I'm only against the fact that it was conducted, the methods that are performed now. And most importantly involved parents.<

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There I saw the featured comrade Trekhlebov...Hmm..I read his "Finist. Clear Falcon Russia"...Absolutely agree with the right. enforcement bodies for what seemed to him for inciting ethnic hatred. The second half of the book - Frank Nazism, veiled...Yes there is..nothing veiled.

The nationalism is there. And Nazism there. Are two different things.
For me, it's better nationalism than the mixing of Nations and imposed tolerastov. Don't want to feel "common humanity a lie".
Law enforcement, long in the service of those against whom Troehler struggling.

The mixing of Nations is needed globalizers process. To the people lost their nationality. Lost roots.
Blood always does not know to which nation he to stick.
It is always a conflict of the difference values of the two peoples. From everywhere he is persecuted. It is easier to inculcate globalizers values. It is easier to feel a "citizen of the world". Common humanity a lie. Welcome to a world state! There is such waiting.

[Dimas]

Logik
Yeah, well what can I say, You understand, the more questions I have.

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What is it then for the powerful force that takes this plan? Egregore, which controls the people who are in the "unconsciousness" state?

A higher power? A race of powerful men? Aliens?

Accurate and reliable answer to your question I have. Most likely the aliens are capable of voploschaetsya on earth among those in power and have the ability to preserve your memory.

And why globalization is the plan, a mixture of races - the same plan but the Second Coming is a hoax?

Globalization is the ultimate goal of the plan, a mixture of races - a stage, a necessary condition to achieve the result. And the promise of the second coming is to the people nor any countermeasures are not taken.
Christ will come and fix everything, it is destined. Nothing else to do.

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Nationalism is there. And Nazism there. Are two different things.

Interesting, but where is the line?

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Interesting, but where is the line?

In short, the protection of its national interests - nationalism.
The imposition of their national interests of other Nations,
to the detriment of their own interests - Nazism.


Nationalism is the love for their nation. Her roots and culture. And if there is a conflict of Nations - it is necessary to decide and not tolerastov. Protecting national interests is the only way the nation's survival as a nation.

And Nazism - the announcement of the nation above others. (for example - we are God's chosen people). And the announcement that existing other Nations must serve the higher nation. The five books of Moses is a good example of "tolerance" God's chosen people. Works Russianism ethnic strife no one believes.

[Андрей Патрушев]

Interesting, but where is the line?

In short, the protection of its national interests - nationalism.
The imposition of their national interests of other Nations,
to the detriment of their own interests - Nazism.


Nationalism is the love for their nation. Her roots and culture. And if there is a conflict of Nations - it is necessary to decide and not tolerastov. Protecting national interests is the only way the nation's survival as a nation.

And Nazism - the announcement of the nation above others. (for example - we are God's chosen people). And the announcement that existing other Nations must serve the higher nation. The five books of Moses is a good example of "tolerance" God's chosen people. Works Russianism ethnic strife no one believes.

It means "beat the Jews - save Russia" (to which openly calls Trekhlebov) - this is the nationalism??? The announcement of Russian elected (though not by God) nation (in fact all of world history has gone from the Russian) - it is nationalism???

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Means "beat the Jews - save Russia" (to which openly calls Trekhlebov) - this is the nationalism???

If he openly called for, for a long time would sit on article 282. But, everyone is looking for where he calls to beat the Jews, but can not find.

Ad Russian elected (though not by God) nation

What, then, elect? And for what? Specifically, quotes are?

(because the whole history of the world went from Russian) - this is nationalism???

Story from the TORAH. And Troeglazova said

All the whites of our Land called RACE, which means white, clean, bright, original. Hence the well-known Latin dictum: "Tabula rasa" ("tabula Rasa") – white, clean sheet. Therefore, there can be no yellow race or the red Race, especially black Race. There are different peoples and Nations, that is, there are "our" and "our". And because Nations and peoples have and Race one. From the word "RACE"
happened the English name of the Russian people: "Russian" (Russian), and Russia: "Russia" (rush), that is Race. It follows that the "Russian man" is one who belongs to the white people, that is to Race.
the members of the Race first inhabited this planet

And where is the crime? What's the exclusivity?And the election of whom? For what purpose?

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If he openly called for, for a long time would sit on article 282. But, everyone is looking for where he calls to beat the Jews, but can not find.

Maybe not specifically called th he a fool or what? Yes, after reading books and watching movies remains the impression.

what, then, elect? And for what? Specifically, quotes are?

Themselves below quoted, and then pretend...
But the essence of the quote is very specific - "We lived here, and then any trash fit on our land (a direct appeal to basic instincts), so is not it time already this trash to kick out of here..."

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Yes, after reading books and watching movies remains the impression.

And I have the impression that he doesn't like Jews (though to say, there is something not to love them)and lists all the possible quotes from anti-Jewish works of the old half-forgotten anecdotal and gossip. Let the people know.

And as there are books about love to the Jews. They are the best, that they are ancient-the ancient that they are the most intelligent-brilliant and technogenity. Supposedly not fair. The Jews after all, are gray and fluffy. Really not a smot on the dignity of this nation, there is only one country where they are loved. It's Israel. In other countries, they don't like. Don't like(and often openly hate) for almost a thousand years, maybe more. Maybe it's time to admit there is something?

Themselves below quoted, and then pretend...

In the above quotation, I do not see anything wrong. Well, first of profits, then what? If someone is chosen, then there is the one who elected him, to accomplish his purposes. Here Yahweh chose the people of Israel. For their own purposes. Russian was not elected, thank God.

The essence provedennoy quotes that whites were first. And nothing more. The rest of your dodumki. If you read further, know that the earth was divided among four peoples - white, Redskins, gelecegini and black. All the place have enough. None of the people was not Danno any benefits. Including benefits, the data only on the fact of belonging to his people.

, "We lived here, and then any trash fit on our land (a direct appeal to basic instincts), so is not it time already this trash to kick out of here..."

Well, if someone, especially all the trash, climbs on your land, don't you think that it is necessary to throw out? I was, at home, are doing just that.<

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I'm here for Troeglazova another complaint I have. He in his book promised to give information about the education of virtuous offspring. Read the book, and there is some advice on this subject in the spirit "to do good and not necessary bad." And I spent so much time on his book!
After that, I have great skepticism listening to Troeglazova.

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Yes, sad story...
For example, I have many Jewish friends - ordinary people, each having their human strengths and weaknesses, who can be friends and love... And the Jews I have met.
So we each other do not understand.

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And the Jews I have met.

And I have met.

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Interesting article on the topic of globalization.

Boris Borisov. Globalism and Finansist: they bring us effectiveness.

http://nnm.ru/blogs/radday/globalizm_i_ ... s_borisov/

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And the Jews I have met.

And I have met.

Well, che???
We have here in the garden collective every year Tajiks work is lovely, good fun and decent guys... And On our street Russian lives - drunk and a thief, beat his old mother, steals from neighbors, sprayed in the face with a neighbor from a container just to see what would happen... For my work, I am 12 years almost every day has seen thieves, murderers, swindlers, rapists, etc., etc., Some of them commit crimes that normal people simply can not imagine. Most of these people were Russian... And what, in your opinion, I must now draw conclusions on life???

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so what???

Using the shoulder!!!

we Have here in the garden collective every year Tajiks work is lovely, good fun and decent guys...

Yes, beautiful and decent, while they are few in percentage. Until they agree to work for nothing, you like them. Here they will start appearing more and more, as a percentage of the indigenous population when they start to assert their "rights", let's see how they then you will like it. In France, blacks and Arabs have full right swing.
I have seen Tajiks, who now do not want to live, hiring workers to work for peanuts. Prefer to sell heroin.
I saw Azerbaijani and his son in his house, enslaved people. Constantly they were beaten and forced to work for themselves for free. Slaves have azerbaycanca become Russian, let and drunken people! Become slaves in their own country! Have aliens!
After the first trial, isery went into hiding. The wife of the slave owner, continued to live in the house. The house was for the slave owners. What? Let them live. Good people!

By the way, you don't know where your colleagues coined the term "ethnic crime"? So the problem is certainly there. There are nationality, ewusie in Russia known criminal earnings.

digression

However, the media continues the discussion of the theme of Russian xenophobia and ignoring the question of ethnic crime. So in early April, in the news, and soon on national television there was a news story about the murder in Izhevsk teenager allegedly "Russian neo-Nazis". But it should be noted that this news was interpreted wrong, because before TV alerted the whole of Russia about the murder, the interior Ministry of the Republic of Udmurtia said that among the suspects are some Diamond and Rustam, and the case itself is not the nature of ethnic clashes. Good, obtained "Russian neo-Nazis", but Yes, the victim was indeed Russian. This is what happens more often – the problems of Russian media ignored, and the next incident with drug-blacks or Tajiks declared total inherent Russian xenophobia.

Ethnic and crime continues to flourish. So in St. Petersburg, according to the chief 8-go Department UBOP (the struggle with ethnic criminal groups) R. Rozhnovskiy active a number of national organized criminal groups. Azerbaijanis control the markets (creating them unfair competition and contributing to their compatriots), drug trafficking and provide trafficked labor. Armenians do fraud in banking, lending, insurance. Dagestanis steal and resell the cars, engaged in raiding. Tajiks specializiruetsya in the supply and wholesale of drugs, which retail in turn distribute Gypsies and Moldovans. Georgians make a pocket and burglary, theft of cargo transported. In addition, notes R. Rozhnovskiy is the process of introducing members of ethnic communities in law enforcement, where they later help "their" to solve all the problems with the offense.

the full text of the link below. Michael Deunov. Crime and ethnicity.

http://narodru.religare.ru/articles8975.html

And On our street Russian lives - drunk and a thief, beat his old mother, steals from neighbors, sprayed in the face with a neighbor from a container just to see what would happen... For my work, I am 12 years almost every day has seen thieves, murderers, swindlers, rapists, etc., etc., Some of them commit crimes that normal people simply can not imagine. Most of these people were Russian...

Thank God, Russian is still percentage is greater. Accordingly, the amount of any thugs seem like much, compared to other Nations.
In General, the kind of work greatly affects the perception of the world. If someone, by the nature of its activity, is constantly required to dig in the sewers (please accept without the Association of individuals), it does not mean that the whole world is shit and is of shit.
And the sun has spots. Among Russian there are geeks.
"And just as many goats in the world, where the same without them?"(Masyanya). Only they are not more than other people.


I have not seen that among all nationalities, a habit to blame his people, there's only Russian.
It is not a coincidence. It is the result of the policy pursued against the Russians. Russian can not win the war. But you can win the information war. And this war will be fought to the complete destruction of the Russian nation.

what, in your opinion, I must now draw conclusions on life???

Yes, you, mine, your insights have already made.
But if you purposefully dismissing the authorities and stereotypes have risen, "the national question", giving him at least part of the energy and time that you put into mindmachine, your opinion could change.<

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and here is to sleep consciously. What to do with the conscious unconscious? Isn't it interpreted?

I would agree with Saul. When, after the fall, God banished Adam and eve from the garden of Eden, He made people leather garments.(Genesis 3:21). In my opinion, the unconscious is the best of leather clothing. Of course they needed to make something to us, since their God has created for us, but it's still our plotnosti, and it is not conducive to spiritual life. There are more important things in life than picking in the unconscious, brings us to animals.

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Saul
I do marvel at you,how you live ,seeing and evaluating everything through the prism of your religion.

Yes, actually all live, appreciating life through the prism of their worldview. Different people can not function at all, I think.