Sedona Method

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The thoughts that arose when reading Your inquiry, Summer:
1. there is no "right" or "wrong" release. All of it happens in different ways, with varying degrees of intensity and sensations of body
2. I absolutely agree with You that in Sedona - this is the basic acceptance, Your words:

to Let go means to give emotions to do what she sees fit, i.e., to stop controlling the situation, and hence already implies non-resistance to those processes that are happening to us, to put it simply, you need to let go of the reins.

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And let everything be as it is.

In this regard, a small comment from Lester in the interpretation Dvoskin: "letting go is not about giving up", which means to not let go still throw you do anything. I love the method because it really allows us to "incorporate" its active position and all you do - it's congruent to you, your values, what's important to you.

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Can I have too much neglected the case - I suffer from depression for 3 years, apathy, fatigue, indifference to life, fatigue, depression, isolation, bad mood, aggression, fears accompany me day to day.

You described the situation is very often the result of what is very much wanted but a little that comes out of it. This could happen for various reasons, both objective and subjective. To deal with this situation and for each there is its own algorithm "visits". Throw in a few ideas and see which one is closer to You:

- the process of "diving in" to his apathy - just sit and take it without letting go, dive as deep as it is possible for you (without releasing!)
- the process to identify the "heart's deepest desires" - the most intimate of your desires. This is a powerful exercise that allows you to "pull" something, sometimes even yourself can not admit it and thus move. Is performed by the conventional algorithm.
process want to change the situation: the feeling that one of the things you depend on that much you want something to help get out of current state. The result? Savethem in the swamp even deeper! In this process it is important to remember that it ends on the question: can I make what you want to change (ie again to accept the apathy, etc.)
- take a look at my website, view article http://www.selfcoaching.pro/sedona-method-1/ - this and other category of the Sedona Method, sign up for a webinar on self-coaching. The letter will be only one (I'm not spammy), but in the future You will be able to obtain information about my next free webinar. Hold going within the next month.
Good luck!<

[Летняя]

Thanks for the response! Why so long did not answer - thought said and tried on themselves. Decided to take the dive into the feeling, although it is not uncommon for me, practiced at one time (started then quit and so 10 times thought not help, but then I had the alternative - the Sedona Method, and now it's gone .. ) So we learn! Most interesting is when I start to experience unpleasant feelings, they scatter to the corners and pull them out very difficult, the intensity is reduced and the feeling that I feel nothing at all (and therefore thoughts come to mind that does not work), but we must continue. Just even as a shame that during the day goes through me such an uncontrollable flow of all sorts of feelings and emotions (fear, anger, and resentment), and when remain the evening in silence, alone it turns out that to worry there is nothing
The other way I do not. Let's see what will happen next

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Hello, Summer.
A familiar situation using the method You described in your message. I know about the method more than 3 years and tried to apply it. But the results can not boast. For all the practice there is a sustainable understanding of some processes of my psyche, but no more. Be sure to read E. Tolle "Power of now". That's all I remember offhand from his book: if you feel the inner emotional discomfort, it is resistance to something. This feeling, which he defines as "suffering." It is precisely noticed. How many times have I noticed that neither fear nor sadness nor any other emotion does not cause such a nasty condition, as it is the resistance to them (emotions). Practicing in Sedona for example ,I sometimes missed one that would just detect this resistance, well, that is (can not choose the exact word) sitting out state (I ?, no, not that) and all of a sudden in the soul as a response - here it is. And all resistance lost emotions, and the emotion is experienced of course, but quickly and with such feelings as resistance to it. (Messy writing, but I don't really know how to describe the internal state) But not always. Usually find resistance and nothing. This series of questions at the Sedona doesn't give me anything and doesn't help. Sit and suffer (resist). And reading OSHO ("Fear") are: "do Not try to get rid of anything. Try to understand what fear is. And if you have fear, accept it. He's here. Do not try to get rid of it. Do not attempt to create the opposite. If you have fear, it means you have fear. Accept it as part of your life. If you can take it, he was gone. Fear disappears after the acceptance; if the fear is rejected, it grows." And these words: once you have IT, then You have" something in me changed. For myself, I realized that the question is : Can I afford to let it go -not working. It is for me from the category - to let, to rid, to get rid of, and this is again the same resistance. In this, when reading Your description is making, I very definitely saw that I use myself - if there is resistance, so there. Point. And do not twitch. How much this feeling is in me, nobody knows. And I don't know. How much will so be it. I'm not controlling it and not controlling it. There are no such possibilities in humans. And who says that has learned control - simply lying. But it's me, maybe someone different, but that's what I read about dealing with emotions and internal States - no one writes clearly. Write to: ask questions, dive etc. But how? what are the feelings this person is experiencing? what am I doing? After all, if you experienced something, you describe it can (albeit ugly) , but you can always understand it or not. Why am I writing this to You? Because of Your post on the adoption caused in my response. And I understand that with different nuances, but we go around one way. The same difficulties, the same bumps.<

[Летняя]

It's really very interesting that we found each other! It somehow soothes and helps in the sense that I'm not alone in this problem, because mostly all turns, and you're like a spell, running around in circles and nothing happens. It's a shame Nitsche well, we'll figure something out. More. With the Sedonas I broke up and return to not going, I've had enough of this dressing) Tired of fruitless attempts to solve has their personal problems by this method. Apparently not all it does: someone is immediately, effortlessly and most importantly - the problems are solved and it is not fiction, and someone .. anything at all no matter how beysya. Maybe there is some kind of predisposition.
I definitely can say that the resistance in me enough (childhood suppressed their emotions, I don't know why I decided that to show their feelings - bad-bad, became transformed into a robot , then started to debunk this myth, and then I covered the depression that will not let still). But the most interesting that I have 100 times understood and accepted all this negativity in me, I think it's little I hide from yourself (unlike most people who live in the illusion of their goodness, landmarks, etc.), when I get angry with the person, I'm not trying to suppress this anger and don't think it's bad, it's fine, it's just the emotion and everything, sometimes I hate people and not scared of it (although he was in shock), just the main point is to let go of these States - you become yourself - accepting, understanding, loving. I read somewhere that emotion is just energy, it is not evil and not good, just the energy that we need freedom (and we need it too, of course ).
E. Tolle I read somewhere six months ago. Both books are devoured. Liked Yes. But then again a lot of theory and almost no practice, clears the brain specifically! To be honest, I don't really believe, writes and talks very beautiful and inspiring, but in other books they write about the same thing.. In fact, he proposes to understand his philosophy mindbut it is useless, do not say much myself - I'm not angry, I'm not scared, I accept myself or I deserve better etc. there is little change, almost nothing. How many truths sit in our heads, but for some reason we live as we always lived and do not do what will bring us closer to happiness.

How many times have I noticed that neither fear nor sadness nor any other emotion does not cause such a nasty condition, as it is the resistance to them (emotions). Practicing in Sedona for example ,I sometimes missed one that would just detect this resistance, well, that is (can not choose the exact word) sitting out state (I ?, no, not that) and all of a sudden in the soul as a response - here it is. And all resistance lost emotions, and the emotion is experienced of course, but quickly and with such feelings as resistance to it.

I understand you I also happens, and therefore understand apparently) Yes, I too noticed a thing! We are afraid of our emotions because we consider them uncontrollable, believe that they can cause us irreparable harm, and we are very scared of them, they scare us and we believed them flee. And if you capitulate to, say, fear, suddenly no longer afraid of what previously disturbed and was out of balance. It's funny It turns out the people around fleeing from unpleasant experiences when they have to go to meet them and they will dissolve without a trace, like the morning mist. With strong emotions (as paradoxical it may sound) I cope it turns out, with a slightly pronounced things worse. And in conditions such as lethargy, apathy, laziness, indifference, dislike not going to work, emotions first do not manifest themselves, and secondly not transformirovalsya though you burst. Here I think how to solve this problem.
Hiring, and what brought you to MC?<

[Андронавт]

With Sedonas I broke up and return to not going more

I apologize for interfering. Please leave your MC, just put it down for a while. MS is only a means for spiritual growth and may You not yet ready for its development. Go do something else. What? And for those that come across by accident. In this case, there are no coincidences. I had the same thing about two years I did the book was not opened, but every time I saw her, felt that She was waiting for me. And now, already as 2 days, I didn't break up.
And I was engaged Multidimensional Medicine, went to Vipassana, saw our Holy Fathers( suggest),
went to the pilgrimage-that's what I remember.
Breakdown, suggests that You go to a higher spiritual level, but your ego resists that crisis. And I assure You it won't last. Make the most of it.
Here, something like this. Your message I'm not saying anything, just thoughts on paper.

[Андрей Патрушев]

If the analogy, each tool designed for a specific group of operations (sometimes even one). I'm not saying that Sedona can be used during the depression, but methods such as Gold Heart (EFT) or Energetic NLP, depression, IMHO, cope much more effectively.
Besides, we must not forget that "deep" problems, according to some psychologists, tend to "resist" change. In fact, it, IMHO, is about the worldview (beliefs and values) as a whole. For example, let's say for the game - if one is convinced that the "wind" blows from what trees sway, to get rid of the "wind" he will exert all their efforts to "trees", while you can just "dress" is warmer, or to build a "house"...
Why, IMHO, the "target", "wholeness", "healing", "unit" have the same root cell (the cell)? Because most complex phenomena in this world (and psyche) systemically, that is, a WHOLE is something consisting of separate cells that are in the system cooperation, that is not a simple sum of the individual parts (simplistically - 2+2=5). There is a saying: "the Problem is a function of the system." In other words, the specific system interaction inside the WHOLE results in a certain state, for which we make a value judgment: "This is a problem." At the same time, probably, in any case, you can allocate a certain aspect (specific cell - cell), (who) will be key in the formation of (and solution to) this "problem." Thus, the "goal" - this is the key cell. Typically, the effort needed to influence the key cell is minimal.

[Аничче]

Good day! Sorry if sadow question, but is there any one in the presence of an audio course with sedonas in Russian? Thanks in advance!!

[Аничче]

And Hello again...and this "gazebo" actually alive? I want to ask a question to Andrey Patrushev and all who practice the Sedona. Practice slowly "Sedona method" by the book Dvoskin. The question arose.
How do you think can be a form of need for approval - "the need for Samooborona".
at the moment, for my actual question, understand what need underlies my 1st "life issue". I now think that this "desire to hurt" inside me on the confusing situation is not the one species described needs...if only the "need for approval" - but there and endorse that no one but myself...the situation does not describe due to the large confusion. if necessary, I will explain.

[Андрей Патрушев]

Anicca
Hello.
As psychologists say, all depends on what You reference.
People with internal reference wanted to spit on external approval, they are important to do as themselves like, and they recognize the approval only from themselves.
Accordingly, people with external reference it is exactly the opposite.

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Anicca
Hello.
As psychologists say, all depends on what You reference.
People with internal reference wanted to spit on external approval, they are important to do as themselves like, and they recognize the approval only from themselves.
Accordingly, people with external reference it is exactly the opposite.

Thanks for the reply! I in the context of your explanation apparently with a mixed reference? once the need for external too often popping up..
Another question...almost dochel a book, apparently now going to embark on 2ому circle for more in-depth study...as stood in a stupor, campaign books often began to arise a series of questions to the needs of "could I let go of need for approval" What does that mean and how to work with it? I understand just if you let go of the need, then let the roots of the problems (according to the tree limit) - and when I release the feelings then let go of the leaves that quickly grow back. But the feeling is that something specific with which to work NOW,to let go, to feel. And the need seems to me something abstract...as "to make/to let" some abstract design, then?))))))

[Андрей Патрушев]

I in the context of your explanation apparently with a mixed reference?

C. G. Jung, in the Prime of his creative activity were to developed personality typologies (hereinafter called "Socionics") as to the children's toys coming to the understanding that man is a complex multilevel system of the psyche, physiology, and information, not amenable to standardization...

And a need seems to me something abstract...as "to make/to let" some abstract design that?

Sedona Method works, at least on two levels:
the first is that here and now;
- second memories. - Where-nibud in a quiet place and remember all the times when I was in need for approval (and first of all "basic emotion"), and remembering - go.
In each method given a particular sequence of actions. And this sequence is not given to casual (and often, only the sequence and is a method). Often, not having a certain sequence it is impossible to understand, and even do something worthwhile after the relevant paragraphs...

[Аничче]

thank you for your answer.)

[Леонгард]

Is a special computer program developed by the method FR. Shapiro: http://psyberia.ru/soft/eyemover

How to install this app and have any support?

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Is a special computer program developed by the method FR. Shapiro: http://psyberia.ru/soft/eyemover

How to install this app and have any support?

On the site, which rocked the program, there is an entry: "If you have Vista or Seven, try the library d3drm.dll and unzip into the same directory where is the "Integrator"." I.e. shake "integrator", unpack ( I raspokoval third) in a pre-created folder. Further, adjacent to schlau "download" is a link http://psyberia.ru/pack/eyed3d.rar pump and unpack in the same daddy and you're done. Good Luck To You!

[Андронавт]

In each method given a particular sequence of actions. And this sequence is not given to casual (and often, only the sequence and is a method). Often, not having a certain sequence it is impossible to understand, and even do something worthwhile after the relevant paragraphs...

In all methods, there are two necessary steps: 1) be aware of their negative emotion, condition, feeling,etc., i.e., to feel this state in the form of sensations in the body, emotions, thoughts...
and 2) the ability to keep my attention on these sensations for a while. In "the Sedona method" questions and give the opportunity. In the future, with the development of awareness, questions disappear by themselves. It is important to understand that there are people and emotion as separate objects. And hold attention to emotions allows us to separate ourselves from the emotions, which gives her the opportunity to pass by us in otvetnoe her GOD-given place. "Sedona method" rabotaet well (for me) with fresh emotion, in passing. If a negative experience happened in childhood and we don't remember him, then we come to the aid of various techniques with their defined sequences of actions.

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Friends had the idea to develop an app for IOS (Iphone, Ipad) on the basis of this method. But first, I would like to decide on the demand: would you be interested in an app that teaches step by step and helps to process emotions and needs? And, second question: you want this app to see?

[Хаст]

Fletch you tell me at least the principle of the application. It is not clear that it can be, and how it will work.

[Эксперт]

When using the Sedona method I'm supposed to feel something now, or I can work on old, long-standing problems?

[Андрей Патрушев]

Expert
Both.

[Эксперт]

Good day!. Practicing this method. But I don't understand how it works. So just something. Sometimes men think that this method is just garbage. Took it and came up with nothing. Personally, understood. First define the problem. There talk and emotion category. Defined in the body. Prochuvstvoval that is, the catharsis. In short, we must recognize the problem as not a part of us. And then let go. And here, too, questions. How to let go. Personally, I niznayu. But I'm doing so. Imagine this as a dark ball inside of me or some dirty ball, and I think that they vymatyvayutsya out of me. Sometimes add a blast from my body. And finally that, Nada. It seems to me there is nothing Nada. PTS is a simple method. It seems it can be modified as anyone. And sometimes works very well when doing very simple. That is just doesn't feel and just ask the same 4 questions and works great. But not for long. And Finally what if we just tell the problem and just let it go. 2 steps)). In short

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Andrei Patrushev

In their responses on the forum You often pay attention to the magic words, which I totally sympathize with You

Write in this thread because I saw Your mention of the method of Ho'oponopono, I am also familiar.

Interested in Your opinion about this.

In Ho'oponopono has the words "I'm sorry." Met an opinion, that in the Russian language the use of this phrase reduces the effectiveness of the practice, because it's a pity = to sting.

Do the same as the author of the opinion in favor of limiting the word "thank you" (desiring God Save the interlocutor), and a priority - "thank you" (thank).

What do you say about such reasoning?

[Андрей Патрушев]

Svetochek

In Ho'oponopono has the words "I'm sorry." Met an opinion, that in the Russian language the use of this phrase reduces the effectiveness of the practice, because it's a pity = to sting.

Yes, as it is this effectiveness count? I think every how it feels, and rightly so.

do the same as the author of the opinion in favor of limiting the word "thank you" (desiring God Save the interlocutor), and a priority - "thank you" (thank).

About "thank" I always want, like the monkey, to ask - "Well, and HDE it?" And the desire of salvation, perhaps, better still - people did everything they could.

[Илла]

I am not new.
Please Ob'yasnite, why the book offers situacin remember when I or someone of my friends have experienced the emotion.

I just my emotions work? It describes the study of 9 emotions.

[Андрей Патрушев]

will
Man is a social being and it is characterized by sympathy and empathy. Some people are so learned to suppress their emotions that it's hard to remember anything about himself, but it is much easier to remember others and, as a result, it is easier to adjust to my.

[Илла]

Yeah, okay, thanks for the quick reply, Andrei!
I then thought so, especially when he began to seek peace! Could not afford to find, but others could imagine, my friend.

And all these 9 emotions need to work out every day for three weeks? All 9 turns at once? Or one a day?