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Post by Dimas » Fri Sep 17, 2010 14:40

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Yes,no, about theta is regardless of man,is the fact
Watched some movie about meditation so there govoriti scientists udovalos for you to record theta from yoga and then only at intervals of a few minutes.

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Post by АК » Sat Sep 18, 2010 0:30

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All the same, I approach this not from the mystics, and the processes that go on in the brain. And the pictures I believe the secondary factor.
Inspired some thoughts...

(c) "And our brain, our heads are not fools?" :)

As I understand it, to a full understanding of what is consciousness and how it is interconnected(?) with the processes that go on in the brain, quite far.

As an illustration, a lecture by Tatiana Chernihiv
"As we think? Language diversity and Cybernetics of the brain."

http://www.polit.ru/lectures/2009/11/24/brain.html

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Post by Смелый » Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:38

АК wrote:Inspired some thoughts...

(c) "And our brain, our heads are not fools?"

As I understand it, to a full understanding of what is consciousness and how it is interconnected(?) with the processes that go on in the brain, quite far.

As an illustration, a lecture by Tatiana Chernihiv
"As we think? Language diversity and Cybernetics of the brain."
When I was in school, first heard that the universe is infinite. I then could not sleep, my mind could not embrace the concept of infinity. Everyone was looking for the border of the Universe. Even physically feel bad. Because he studied physics, remembered the structure of the atom. An analogy. In the atom the nucleus. There are protons, neutrons and electrons. It all revolves around the nucleus. Several atoms together make a molecule. Molecules make up matter. But of a substance, for example, a cow, a horse, a fly, a flower, a man and t..D. the Sun is the core. Planets rotating around it — the same protons, neutrons and electrons. That is, the solar system, the same atom. Just great. Next to other star systems are atoms. Star systems are atoms, grouped, make up molecules, molecules make up the stellar substance of which in turn consist of star horses, flowers, sheep, flies, people, etc. Those people, animals, insects consisting of stellar systems — atoms, very much. My brain not been able to reach those values which were opened, but he found a logical explanation of how infinity, and calmed down.
Not a fool our brains our heads. Within us is the same infinity and emptiness, and outside. We have already proved that the distance of the atoms between the nucleus and the protons and neutrons — is enormous, relative to the size of nuclei and protons and neutrons. Therefore, atoms are in fact composed of empty space. Once they are empty, then we are the void. So, our density is a Chimera.
I had, or a dream, or some kind of fly. I'm in some empty space. As if in space. But it's not. No body, no nothing, only consciousness. But I feel through the movement of energy. It is in the window, if you blow into it from two sides at a time. And here is the movement of energy here and there, I FEEL. That is, there is a feeling is the consciousness that is aware of the feeling. And there's no body. Nothing but vast space around. It was 6 years ago, once, and not repeated more. Explanation can not give.
Man is so complex that we can't imagine. It is known that each organ has its own consciousness. Try in a relaxed state to talk, for example with their liver. She will definitely respond. Own consciousness and have cells. About DNA, I will not even mention. At the above link I read that consciousness and possess neurons that are functionally able to realize any.... don't even know what to write here.
Eastern practices recommend that a person in his development to go inside yourself. It seems that (as investigators) connection with newly disclosed circumstances (there is new knowledge and most importantly technology) for successful development it is necessary to increase their own energy, by applying different products on one side and various practices of cleansing the physical body from the other side. I think Thomas Mann said the following words: "By and large, the only difference between people is their energy. Strong will, firm determination, clear purpose, can be almost anything. And that these are great people, from nicocig."
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Post by Смелый » Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:30

Новик wrote:demAs you described everything correctly it's your specialty, I have another....
Although what you described about the same I experienced on HOLOTROPIC
And about the discussion of theta IMHO it is still too early to say we have to work as it seems to me not one year...
Watched some movie about meditation so there govoriti scientists udovalos for you to record theta from yoga and then only at intervals of a few minutes.
And YOGI this almost all his life meditating...
I know about the state which says demAs. It well develop in Trantsendentalnoy meditation founder Maharishi. Good stuff, useful. And most importantly, after the meditation there is a lot of energy. I wandered back, I thought will help with the development of Silva. It turned out that is different.
By the way, the Screen that opens when you master the method of Silva's, internal. It hangs inside the skull. As if from the reverse side of the forehead. And the Screen of the Computer, which open on Bronnikova is the outside of the head, hanging in front of a man. And consequently, more energy is needed to open it. When I passed the first stage of Bronnikov, then we were engaged for two girls who have already passed all the stages, the screen of the Computer they had opened and they came for a new first step in order to pump up the energy. At the end of the exercises on the opening Screen, the coach asked all the about the results. Opened only two or three. I don't have. As I now understand, because of an injury of the left eye resulting in youth and accordingly subfunctions because of this, the right hemisphere. For the second time, the Screen is also not open, but these girls have to say (and in a state of exercise, because in deep trance there is not included) that the Screen I opened and hanging in front of me. At the end of the attempt I got to talking with them. Tried to find out, is there any practical use for the material world in the opening Screen of the Biocomputer. As Silva tried to overpower (the word for master) for that would be through the implementation of necessary positive attitudes
in the subconscious mind, to achieve some success in lateralnom the world. They said that each has its own boutiques, before going for the item, sit down, open the Screen the Computer ask the question about what goods they need to buy that in the future would this product quickly sold. The answer was in the form of text running across the Screen. She thanked me, folded the Screen and went for the goods, which are then quickly implemented.
So, if you have a goal, then it can come in different ways, it would be a desire and persistence.
By the way, there is a good phrase : "the Winners, which not many do. All the rest - want to want!"
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Post by Михаил_ » Sat Sep 18, 2010 12:57

essentially still where hangs the screen, even from the outside - he's building a consciousness, and a text is just a way to visualize information using a familiar set of images (i.e., the connection with their perception of the library), you could tie the appearance of sound or smell, but the perception is more complicated and makes no sense.

The difference in schools including the fact that from the ancient history of our planet these biocomputers different versions remained as dogs are not cut. All a bit different. Although perhaps the authors of the known methods of create their own from scratch, but most likely hang a copy of which is pulled out from the past. That's why the difference in appearance.
Fakticheski a biocomputer - a set of connections and experience, i.e., some pattern of information processing in one or other way. (there is another management is with them).
I'm not really a fan of this hardware, though sinful, not being a fan of the second version of BJ he hung up a light screen, though there TO it, as if external. Well judging by the fact that especially reviews there is no mention of it (i.e. he doesn't see almost anyone), the degree of its manifestation is weak.
Actually I wanted to get around the problem of the screwing action. structures of consciousness, placing them on the outside.
I haven't seen a version of biocomp from Bronnikova (well, I have an Allergy to it for some reason, believe that not objective can be but nothing with him can not do, perhaps for reasons that I cannot understand and to explain to the level of logic, maybe some old hooks up to a personal - not clear to me. ) But those that have seen other, different from each other well, although similar.
The best story to awaken what is already there, only with not having to put a new (well, I would say not to, but I can be wrong, keep quiet). another question is how to awaken. There's the same BM for some amount of time doing the disks to Wake up biocomp, and then began to make its entry-replication, making sure to hit the target first rare and it is not effective.
Just the thing is communication and information processing methods with some hard presets. The presence of two semi-active structures of this type may give slightly strange effects switching it to one then to another.
As a joke - "you rock, you pull over", the full functionality in our time is not documented, who is there that has previously done.<

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Post by Смелый » Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:24

Михаил_ wrote:essentially still where hangs the screen, even from the outside - he's building a consciousness, and a text is just a way to visualize information using a familiar set of images (i.e., the connection with their perception of the library), you could tie the appearance of sound or smell, but the perception is more complicated and makes no sense.
Understand, Michael! I'm stubborn. Four times up in the material plane. And each time I fell. Was able pochesyvaya your head and questioning yourself: "Well, you once again stepped on the same rake. How so?" I got bored in the end and I decided that after all this is the system, and there are reasons why I suck. I decided to look for them. After the esoteric (the good people suggested). The more I read, the more I find the reasons I fell face flat on the asphalt. I realized that these signs and the reasons could be endless, and you need to do something. Came to the conclusion that everything that is ruining my life, is unconscious. And you just need to persuade him to change his setup to a more positive. And now I have not become accomplices in the esoteric world. Because people are going there, are, well, I don't know the meaning of life, finding themselves, etc. (I had a clear setting with any practices that do not Deplete me, to take place in the material world, that is, spirituality is just a utility tool). Associates did not and had to dig. A lot of things tested, invented, but in that time I realized what distinguishes successful people from ordinary ones. Now very clearly, I emphasize, very clearly, I control the emotions do not fit into the positive attitudes of successful people, and at the same time showing something more to work with. By Bronnikova and Silva, I asked only because it was at hand. Other tools were not. If tomorrow it will be something else that will help me to alter my unconscious attitudes in a more positive and will help me become more successful, I have tomorrow and will start. (Although it make not enough). The line: "I was blinded him from what was, and then went and fell in love" - not for me. I know what I want and what to achieve. Take another technique, try it fits. And there have been many useful techniques I have used that hasn't gotten me anywhere. Though, who knows. Because it was a more serious reason, which I drowned. I believe that I got rid of it, but lost a lot of time, and torn down a connection. Business does not stand still. Stop in business is death. You Michael have of course had a much larger and extensive knowledge. Perhaps you can tell me anything else useful in terms of reprogramming the subconscious mind to more positive attitudes? I would be very grateful.
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Post by рыжая » Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:18

Bold, may I ask?
Which of Your abilities You wanted to possess, in order to once and for all to take place in the material world?
Just to engage in esoteric practices in my opinion this is not the direction. You need to develop real skills, the DPJ start analyzing what You already have. On the way we will deal with the subconscious that You can develop the skill to perfection. But You apparently are not afraid to plow. Can you imagine exactly how everything should look? Or just want something that will help me earn money?

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Post by Смелый » Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:45

рыжая wrote:Bold, may I ask?
Which of Your abilities You wanted to possess, in order to once and for all to take place in the material world?
Just to engage in esoteric practices in my opinion this is not the direction. You need to develop real skills, the DPJ start analyzing what You already have. On the way we will deal with the subconscious that You can develop the skill to perfection. But You apparently are not afraid to plow. Can you imagine exactly how everything should look? Or just want something that will help me earn money?
You know, one of the most valuable skills is the ability to enjoy the success of others. Regardless, Petya, Vanya, Kolya, anyway. People got a decent amount of money - you are happy. The other, bought a car, the third apartment, cottage, tour, trip, boost in your career. You rejoice with them, even if you don't know these people, I saw on TV, or heard. That this state will lead to success. And the success don't have to rank or graduating. Michael already wrote about this. You need to push the limits and blur their boundaries. Personally, my problem was that in the 90s and the beginning of 2 thousandths, I niceplace experience, when substantial sums of money, frequently changing cars, trips, I pulled for them in the form of someone else's envy, criminal assaults, raids, and various law enforcement agencies. Including the threat to kidnap the son. And probably subconscious formed a programme that to be rich and successful is a bad thing, it brings with it problems and negative experiences. And esoteric practices I needed in order to negotiate with the subconscious to change the installation. But there was very strong energy-loss to a certain individual, with the installation of cash-strapped existence. Now it is in the past, but when you do not know about, I don't see why a signed contract in which you and the companion shall receive a monthly 150 000 dollars of Commission for two for 17 months - is crumbling. And this is not an isolated case. After every failure, a few days come to life again.
Anyway, I think this way. If I do it now, and I want it, I mean it in the moment, not matching (that does not mean that I sit and do nothing). The Principle Of "Internal - External". I can't change your surroundings. But I ultimately can alter yourself inside. Then my environment will change in line with my inner beliefs. And therefore constantly looking for various methods and ways, trying to transform yourself. Guided by two principles:
"If today I do what most other people do not, then tomorrow I'll have something that most other people will not have." - author unknown to me.
"Even if it fails, at least she will know him when he would take the liberty to do great things, and so he will never find a place among the cold and timid souls who did not know neither victories, nor defeats." - Theodore Roosevelt.
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Post by Маг.нет » Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:30

Смелый wrote:If I do it now, and I want it, I mean it in the moment, not matching (that does not mean that I sit and do nothing). The Principle Of "Internal - External". I can't change your surroundings. But I ultimately can alter yourself inside. Then my environment will change in line with my inner beliefs.
For example, I look a little different, if I do it now, and I want it, so either no time or no place, or me this is actually not necessary (or harmful might affect other aspects of life, or "empty"). The principle of "Internal - External", also see it NECESSARILY as a bilateral process (aka the "current" does not exist or is very weak). "Adjusting itself" - I correct the environment, "adjusting the environment" - I correct myself. Ways to adjust the environment a lot, for example the principle of "all in one" when involved in some process elements are allocated a certain (limiting elements) balanced system, which employs this principle (the principle of the egregore). To do this I: 1. allocate (closed circle), 2. share common (reveal the similarity of the elements of the system quality), 3. feel element of the system, 4. start the momentum of the Trend (noting the qualitative characteristics of changes), 5. see the spread of this quality in the system.
This is one way. Works for me!
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Post by Михаил_ » Sun Sep 19, 2010 16:25

Bold, well, I recommendations were given - plenty to read artistic literature. It has more information than the esoteric, the main thing she was given more extensive and understandable way, normally rests on existing experience.
Sin different than spirituality - the constant referrals by Leonid Filatov the tale "to the what-not-can-be". Not knowable-multidimensional :)
In addition, it is very difficult to describe our simple world with complex causes such as one theory.
It's too much all mixed up.
Here you see the same Zelazny, have a wonderful and well-known cycle of the Chronicles, which is very good and shows some aspects of the world and a pole of power. And from different sides. Ie there is little not important things, just few people understand the richness of the text.
But he's got for example "the Demon Lord" is a lesser known piece, but showing some other, no less real aspects of the world.
But quite another picture showing the world the work "Bridge of ashes" (in another version of the translation of "Bridge of ashes") is not less vital, although described there world is not like the first two worlds.
And what is it? all three - a solid reality of life, but how could it be described in one esoteric theory? Yes way.
Well Burislav Servest somehow tries, but it is very technical and confusing exits. At the same time he, in my opinion, a little strange as is, all to escape somewhere to think.
Porridge here. For a long time created. She is actually affected. Therefore, a simple understanding does not go any way. And any action of an individual with a purpose "and I will stand tall" bumps into different nails in the ceiling.
And if one studied, then a dozen others out this theory out. And objectively there is no fault of the individual.
It is just a feature of what is happening.
The most valuable my knowledge is the practice. She never tries to drag me into the bosom of a single theory. Practice diverse :)
There are plenty successful in life (in all qualities)people who achieve their goals as practices. Though often due to the fact that at the start, was lucky to pass by nails.
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Post by Смелый » Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:34

I live alone and take for its development only what I think is useful at the moment. Tomorrow find even more useful, use it. And old, something to leave, something discarded. And art books, I never felt leadership in action. Although, there is one. For me it is useful is the book of Richard Bach "Jonathan Livingston Seagull."
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Post by Новик » Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:10

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Bold
I'm assuming that all the same it is necessary to have certain minimum abilities that would like to realize themselves in this world:
entry into the TRANS( in the alpha differently)
-visualization
Once mastered these two skills then if you really have the desire to plunge into the world of esotericism and the idea to these skills(person must be financial independent or at least more successful).

And all this esoteric no more than fiction for skukusa intellectuals...

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Post by Смелый » Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:15

Новик wrote:And all this esoteric no more than fiction for skukusa intellectuals...
Смелый wrote:(I also had a clear setting with any practices that do not Deplete me, to take place in the material world, that is, spirituality is just a utility tool).

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Post by Смелый » Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:24

Новик wrote:I'm assuming that all the same it is necessary to have certain minimum abilities that would like to realize themselves in this world:
entry into the TRANS( in the alpha differently)
-visualization
And what I'm writing here? Call to practice spirituality, to make the study the main business of his life?

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Post by Маг.нет » Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:23

Новик wrote:And all this esoteric no more than fiction for skukusa intellectuals...
Someone that wants...
I'm looking for sometimes esoteric or allegorical interpretation to understand "principles". Is find... understanding.
With regards to Alphas and visualization is also one way to see it. In the alpha can be "accessible" in various ways and not necessarily in alpha for a Long time... it turns out only recently learned that it is called alpha :) Visualization... and not the fact that mandatory, you can "know" in another way, without visualization...
So here I am none such, do not judge strictly :)


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Post by рыжая » Mon Sep 20, 2010 13:32

Новик wrote:red
Bold
I'm assuming that all the same it is necessary to have certain minimum abilities that would like to realize themselves in this world:
entry into the TRANS( in the alpha differently)
-visualization
Once mastered these two skills then if you really have the desire to plunge into the world of esotericism and the idea to these skills(person must be financial independent or at least more successful).

And all this esoteric no more than fiction for skukusa intellectuals...
It depends on what skills...
If in the Beginning of the movie with Leonardo di Caprio is one thing. :) So the first example off the bat, from science fiction. Spirituality can then send to the bored intellectuals or even somewhere far away. Any skill you need to develop and need to know how. But most importantly you need to be able to plow. In General I do not believe in the esoteric, I can't see her dorosla to these lofty realities. And hard to believe. Want something, really want - you need to work hard.

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Post by Dimas » Mon Sep 20, 2010 13:38

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you Want something, really want - you need to work hard.
Well...not always the case. :)

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Post by Новик » Mon Sep 20, 2010 13:40

Bold
And what I'm writing here? Call to practice spirituality, to make the study the main business of his life?
Yes, like I'm not referred to either as I don't know why you got accepted to your account :roll:
Just expressed my opinion-the position...
I will explain the programming language:
As fond samorazvitie then had to communicate with different people(I will not say I made friends but became good friends)
So when dealing with different people those who are interested(can't say practice because of pratcical I have not seen):
-Silva,
-Deir
-Wasps
-Castaneda(XS as there it can be used)

But my simple question and if you can visualize(with colors and sharp images to) and enter into a trance nor anything intelligible could not answer... Hato teoriyi and all sorts of somewhwere to throw for hours...
The conclusion made for myself( at the moment) that all these schools are in the majority that does not give me because at first it is necessary to develop skills
PS.
Bold do not look at my posts negative, it not there!

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Post by Новик » Mon Sep 20, 2010 13:46

And I add if you take self-development in terms of success in the material world:
Who are the most successful people?
This: the hypnotist, Nlper, psychologists!
ie those who PRACTICE and know analyst about: trance and trance States, hypnosis, and visualization(as a way of modeling required a number of imaginative his subconscious)..
Any successful Dairova, Silvassa etc I didn't strcol...

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Post by рыжая » Mon Sep 20, 2010 13:59

Dimas wrote:red
you Want something, really want - you need to work hard.
Well...not always the case. :)
Share. :)

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Post by Новик » Mon Sep 20, 2010 14:20

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Any skill you need to develop and need to know how.
In well with the TRANS for me, everything is all clear...
But with rendering I these courses are not met to teach it rendering without any admixture of esoterics...
In addition to CREATIVE VISUALIZATION Shakti Gawain I do stoyuschie not met yet...

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Post by Dimas » Mon Sep 20, 2010 14:32

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In some strange way it turns out to be achieved simply by changing the way of thinking... :) and the right setup to enter into the subconscious quite easily, self-hypnosis is also possible, but it requires a lot of knowledge and skills.

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Post by рыжая » Mon Sep 20, 2010 16:01

Dimas wrote:red
In some strange way it turns out to be achieved simply by changing the way of thinking... :) and the right setup to enter into the subconscious quite easily, self-hypnosis is also possible, but it requires a lot of knowledge and skills.
Well, Dimas, You are these skills developed?

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Post by Воффка » Mon Sep 20, 2010 16:27

Of course if the man at least something to eat, it these skills are to some extent developed. Because just sticking an empty head will soon end up in the hospital, if mindset does not change, and the world (IMHO)!

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Post by Раймис » Mon Sep 20, 2010 17:52

He stumbled on the material, can be be subject :?
the Current model of civilization contains a huge distortion of the mistakes of Atlantis and the subsequent priesthood of Ancient Egypt. Current players and administrators of the matrix is so overworked that he could not see anything, continuing to swim to the edge. That is unable to reject the whole rubbish of the past. In fact, the change of the name of the site containing the syllable RA means the remission of the whole basis of the knowledge that has been generated on this basis. As you name the boat so it will float.

The transformation applies the biblical project in the adjacent placer knowledge, including, and formed on this basis, the entire social system. Subsequent unsuccessful correction of the higher mind in the attempt to transform the scientific worldview and atheism Svadhistana religious ideas = also came to a standstill. In the end, remained Slavic-Aryan Vedas (SAV) with the idea of depending on the planet (nature) of the current sample expressed in words this is our land. The basic idea of the new name simple and concise, helping to release the land.

Drawing attention to the social system, government, Freemasonry, the old religious beliefs, including the above designated SAV, culture and art of the past = a person falls into the trap of lower energy-fields. This means that he potentially becomes the victim of a 3rd density. Waiver or remission of the old basis of knowledge = creates a new projection of the world. Pass there is an inner work on your own consciousness. In most cases, this means o(t)which is put all the old, formed in pain and suffering on the basis of the matrix of the biblical project.
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