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Scientology - the religion of madness.

Intelligence work is not always apparent. It is possible that Linguistic school attended by the thirst for knowledge the boy, is a gathering of personal data and sentiments of a certain stratum of society, with the aim of further action against him.

Lafayette Ronald Hubbard not only invented a new religion Scientology, but also created an intelligence Agency, successfully cooperating with the CIA.

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Scientology is banned in Moscow and Russia in 2015.

The Moscow city court has forbidden activity of the Moscow community of Scientologists
the Moscow city court granted the request of the Ministry of justice on liquidation of the Scientology Church of Moscow. About this Agency city news "Moscow" said the court.
"The court satisfied the claim of capital management of the Ministry of justice on liquidation of the religious Association. Judge Mikhail Kazakov decided that the organization did not comply with the provisions of the Federal law on the freedom of religion," - said the Agency interlocutor.

Earlier it was reported that the basis for liquidation of the Moscow community, the Ministry of justice sees the discrepancy of the Charter to religious organizations the law "On freedom of conscience" and in violation of the stated limits - "the organization is in the territory of St. Petersburg, although as a territorial sphere of the activities specified in the Charter of Moscow".

Representatives of law enforcement agencies October 30, 2015 raided the office of Church of Scientology of Moscow on Taganskaya str., 9. These investigations, according to media reports, was carried out in the framework of the initiated earlier criminal case about spying on the members of the Church and are connected with the application in the office of recording devices and cameras.

Dianetics and Scientology (Scientology) - a religious-philosophical trend founded in the USA in early 1950-ies of XX century by Lafayette Ron Hubbard.
Moscow regional court in 2012, acknowledged some of the books written by R. Hubbard extremist and banned their distribution in the territory of the Russian Federation.

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CONCLUSION a COMPREHENSIVE MEDICAL EXAMINATION
RF state scientific centre for social and forensic psychiatry im.In.P.Serbian
of June 30, 1999
Humanitarian Centre of Hubbard.



A real comprehensive medical examination conducted in accordance with the decree of 23 March 1999 the investigator for particularly important cases of the Prosecutor's office, northeast district of Moscow the lawyer of the 3rd class Bisenkov V. in connection with criminal case No. 220706 on the facts of rendering of the NGO “the Humanitarian Centre of Hubbard's” Scientology and Church services to citizens on the purification program, and the introduction of the ideas of L. R. Hubbard in medicine.

The complex of the Commission included: head of the expert Department GNTS of social and judicial psychiatry.In.P.Serbian Dr. med.PhD, Professor F. Kondratiev, Chief therapist of the health Committee of Moscow, M. D. Prof., Chief therapist of the health Committee of Moscow candidate.med.Sciences, associate Professor Yu. p. Boiko, candidate of med.Sciences, senior researcher state research center for social and forensic psychiatry im.In.P.Serb V. G. Vasilevsky and T. A. Smirnova, head of the city organizational-methodical Department of psychotherapy and medical psychology of the Committee of health of Moscow N. E.Kyrov, the doctor expert of Department GNTS of social and judicial psychiatry.In.P.Serbian I. Vinogradov.

On liability for knowingly false expert opinion according to article 307 of the criminal code of the Russian Federation members of the Commission warned.

The experts raised the question: “is it possible infliction of harm to health of citizens in the application of techniques used in the Humanitarian Centre of Hubbard and Church of Scientology Moscow?”.

Materials, submitted to experts for examination, contain Hubbard's books and pamphlets written on the materials of these books, which set out the main provisions of Dianetics and Scientology and approved use recommended techniques. In addition, the experts presented the printouts of lectures “Group auditing: Acceptable Pressure, group pressure”, “Session group auditing”, the booklet “Additional methods of care for illnesses and injuries” and two videotapes, “Introduction to Scientology. Film-interview with L. Ron Hubbard” and “How to use Dianetics - videopreteen on the human mind. A video based on the book L. Ron Hubbard's Dianetics. L. Ron Hubbard and four audio cassettes in the block “Dianetics. The lectures and demonstrations. L. Ron Hubbard”. Additionally, psychiatric experts examined were the specific materials relative participation in GSA Borisova E., and Saltykova, O., and documents marked “confidential” showing the names of persons held, the procedures of purification (Purif) and the date of the event: borisenkova I. V. (1998), the Breusov V. P. (1999), Vorobyev, V. E. (1998) Grishina L. N. (1998), Ishmatov A. R. (1998), Chadin A. N. (1998), Shamov V. V. (1999).

Experts from the presented materials follows:

The basic tenet of Hubbard's teachings is that the world is doomed to destruction. While in the expert literature in Intrusive advertising form States that Ron Hubbard developed the only possible way to salvation. In Dianetics he gave way to “the disclosure of unused intellectual abilities and brilliant opportunities.” Hubbard understands human sanity as a data Bank, which is the only one able to solve all the problems, if provided with complete and correct information.

The work of Hubbard explores consciousness through the functioning of two parts, the “analytical” mind, which is responsible for the solution of life problems, and “reactive” mind. “Reactive” mind keeps sensitive recording painful events, the so-called “engrams,” which are a hindrance to solving life's problems and cause psychological conflict. Accordingly, the purpose is to remove these “engrams”. The result of the application of the “purification process” assumes the appearance of an individual with superhuman abilities, free from any physical and mental problems (disorders) - the so-called “clergy”.

According to the teachings of Hubbard, beyond body and mind, there is the so-called basic element of personality - “theta”. He represents the human spirit or life energy and has supernatural capabilities: thetans can leave the body they inhabit, and exist without any physical body outside of the physical universe. This spirit or life energy must be understood so that we can move to a higher level of existence, where we will not influence any life conflicts and troubles. This is the way to achieve the state of complete spiritual freedom or the state of “Operating thetan” This state is achieved once the person has passed the state of “clear”.

The teachings of Hubbard argues that attaining the state of “Operating thetan” is the key to immortality, because “Operating thetan”, can control physical matter, energy, space and time. Thus anyone who uses Scientology technology can become self-determined, truly godlike super-being, unbound by the dimensions of time and space as “Operating thetan” is instilled in the body, and is not far away.

The meaning of Hubbard's doctrine follows the provision that the world in its present form doomed to destruction, and those who are not Scientologists, do not have a chance to achieve personal immortality. Salvation is possible only through the application of the proposed saentologichesky psycho. It always instilled the idea that only “Clears” and “Operating thetans” will survive the destruction of the planet and to do “Clears” and “Operating Titanov” can only Scientologists - so fatal to not be a Scientologist. Thus Scientology creates a sense of fear and exploiting it to sell the PA succumbed to such advertising their courses and training programs.

Approval of Scientology, only that it is the only way to salvation, essentially requires unquestioning obedience from its followers and acceptance of Scientology doctrines. On the “course communication” during the “editingrow” this requirement establishes the methods developed for systematic implementation and uncritical acceptance of the ideas of Hubbard and the suppression of all independent thinking.

The statement that Scientologists have the only key to salvation, and its members represent the best of humanity, leads to an opposition to persons priemlemom this doctrine, to the breakdown of previous interpersonal relationships and includes the traumatic factors. The use of a specially designed Scientology group of terms contributes to the isolation of the adherents of this Church from society.

Among the proposed methods the key of Scientology is “auditing”, demonstrated in the most complete form in the videotape “How to use Dianetics - videopreteen on the human mind. A video based on the book by L. Ron Hubbard Dianetics” In this “videopetite” outlines habarovskoe representation of the “mechanisms” of consciousness and inspired the adoption of a special “efficiency” of its methods of influencing the mental state.

According to F. V. Kondratiev, V. G. Vasilevsky, T. A. Smirnova and I. G. Vinogradov, the mental state of the person undergoing the procedure “auditing” should be defined as “a temporary state of consciousness characterized by narrowed its scope and sharp focus on the content of suggestion, which involved changing the functions of individual control and self-awareness”, i.e. literally identical with the definition of “hypnosis” given in the dictionary of Psychology (Moscow, 1990, p. 79, “Hypnosis”) and in other sources. In confirmation of the opinions about the possibility to consider “auditing” version of the hypnotic suggestions, in addition to said state of altered consciousness in which the client is during a session of “auditing”, one should indicate the characteristic techniques of hypnotherapy state of rapport contact, both during the hypnotic session between the hypnotized and hypnotizing. This contact is of the characters of the video has a high degree of selectivity of perception due to narrowed in a hypnotic state of consciousness, which is explained by the presence hypnoides-phase States of the cerebral cortex - relatively weak verbal stimulus (i.e. a verbal formula of suggestion, gipiemme) becomes more significant, stronger influences coming from other sources.

Boyko Yu. p. and Kyrov N. E. having considered the submissions, revealed the following: the procedure of “auditing” is done by two members of the “pre-clear” and “auditor” in the guide, to evaluate, and in fact the leadership of the latter. “Pre-clear” (a bidder seeking to acquire the state of “clear” - a state of purified consciousness, or deliverance from the influence of the reactive mind) follows the principles of the auditor, is answering his questions. Following the prescriptions of “auditor” “pre-clear” is consistently implementing the ten steps in the procedure.

1-stage. Lying against each other in a sitting position, “the auditor” teaches “pre-clear” the need “to know everything that will happen.” Inherent in the procedure “auditing” the distribution of roles among the participants suggests a tangible hierarchy - “the auditor” takes a leadership role, directs the “pre-clear”, encourages, gives team.

Guidance “auditor” are in the affirmative, stating form. Intonation inherent quality of directivity.

These features of the 1st stage allow you to regard it as preparing for learning “pre-clear” suggestions from “the auditor”, as it provides the implementation of the “pre-clear” instructions “of the auditor”.

2nd stage - the “auditor” offers to “pre-clear” close your eyes, combined with a comfortable sitting position and focus on the voice of “auditor” leads to deprivation of the visual and motor analyzers, and as a result, promotes the specific allocation of zones of inhibition activation (according to I. P. Pavlov, A. A. Ukhtomsky) in the Central nervous system “pre-clear”, which is characteristic for the so-called phase States of consciousness.

The 3rd stage is dedicated to the “installation cancelled” It contains a Directive demanding the abolition of “any suggestion” at the end of the procedure, “auditing”, but its essence is not only a recognition of the existence in the procedure “auditing” component suggestion, but an attempt to “auditor” to prevent the possible development of action effect of suggestion for the time frame of the procedure. This phenomenon delayed the implementation of the suggestions, typical suggestions made on the background of altered States of consciousness.

4-th, 5-th, 6-a and 6-b the steps in the procedure “auditing” suppose to “pre-clear” “find last event”, resulting in adverse effects on well-being “pre-clear”, the reconstruction was not previously aware of its parts and, finally, reducing the negative emotional charge that accompanied the events with a positive reaction as a result of the revaluation of the past and liberation from symptoms. By itself, the so-called “search incident” and the reconstruction of previously unconscious of its parts, is done through methods aimed at the management of behold tive images in the subjective space “pre-clear”, that is, through visualization, that is widely used in various psychotherapeutic techniques.

It should be emphasized that visualization is possible as a result of the control processes of attention, memory, emotional reactions, allowing the subject to make himself or certain other sensations, perceptions, avoiding critical evaluation of it. This type of control (by means of a flow of information, avoiding criticism) is, depending on the orientation, nothing more than a suggestion, or autosuggestion.

It should also be noted that required (for steps 6-a and 6-b) procedure of “auditing” the need to return to more historically earlier “incident” that took place in the life of “pre-clear”, it corresponds to the achievement of the age regression suggestion used in various embodiments of auto - and hetero-suggestive therapy.

The reduced emotional charge of “incidents” and formation of positive emotional reactions (joy) as a prerequisite for the transition to work with an earlier “accident” during the procedure, “auditing”, or for suspension of work and transition to work with an earlier “accident” during the procedure, “auditing”, or to pause the operation and the transition from imaging to date, and “awareness” can have the interpretation as a cathartic experience, and acting out as a component of positive reinforcement of good practices (techniques from the Arsenal of psychodynamic, art therapy and behavioral therapy).

It should be noted that steps 4 - 6-b, having a defined algorithm shifts the moment of immersion in the surveillance images of visualization of the moment of verbalization, of course corresponds to the method of visual reproduction of the memories, suggested by V. S. Obinim in 1986.

Significantly, the note “auditor” to “pre-clear” the need is not so much to indulge visualized memories as “to feel in the past”, which gives special status to the state of consciousness “pre-clear” in the sense of a modified spatial-temporal identification.

Important detail technology “auditing” should recognize the differentiated approach to the use of so-called modalities (visual - question “auditor”: “what do you see?”; auditory - “...what do you hear?”), that is certainly in many other parts in common “process auditing” techniques of neuro-linguistic programming (NLP).

Stages 8, 9, 10, dedicated to “...move in now...”, “...the abolition of suggestions, commands,”, “...the return of full consciousness ...the environment...” are nothing but the activities of participants in the procedure for exit from special state of consciousness, characterized by narrowing its scope, focusing on content, not relevant to the present time, space and environment, changes in the functions of individual self-control, which corresponds to Transavia state of consciousness.

Thus, according to Boyko Yu. p. and Kirova N. E. the procedure of “auditing” is an eclectic mix of suggestion, autosuggestion, visualization, inducing the trance state and performed in the background such for the purposes of personal transformation.

The development of the “pre-clear” an altered state of consciousness makes the procedure “auditing” requirement for participation of the psychotherapist or psychiatrist that nowhere in the material presented is not specified. Part of a doctor of the corresponding profile should prevent the involvement in the procedure “auditing” of persons with contraindications (persons suffering from overt or latent forms of mental disorders with the risk of development of paroxysmal disorders, etc.) that would avoid possible harm to their health.

Obligatory participation of a doctor the corresponding profile in the procedure “auditing” is dictated by the need to manage the qualified state of a person in an altered state of consciousness for the prevention of spontaneous transformation of his state of consciousness, underestimation of the consequences of the use of the effect of deferred suggestion, or unreasonable use.

Of particular note is the presence in the submitted materials about the “editingrow” special instructions to the authors of the PA's disassociation from the use of suggestive techniques that, however, is nothing more than one of the clear techniques to overcome the possible “pre-clear” the natural psychological resistance of certain percentage of policy contained in any act of heterosuggestion.

You need to pay attention to the typical form of organization and flow of the material contained on the videocassette “Dianetics”. The imagery, the metaphors, the brilliance, the combination of video and audioread, textual and drawing material, skillfully placed accents, consistent and didactically justified recurrence - all this, along with the availability, allows us to treat the videotape as an effective promotional product, far surpassing in its impact on the consumer simple objective of informing and carries a big charge of persuasion, bordering on compulsion.

In General, the procedure of “auditing” is a method, not had the official approbation, and therefore is not permitted.

Based on the above the Commission comes to the following conclusion.

1. According to Boyko Yu. p. and Kirova N. E. the procedure of “auditing” contains elements of self-hypnosis, suggestion, visualization techniques implemented on the background of trance state of consciousness. Reliable information about the use the procedure “auditing” techniques of hypnosis in the submissions is not available. According to F. V. Kondratiev, V. G. Vasilevsky, T. A. Smirnova and I. G. Vinogradov “auditing” can be considered a variant of hypnotic effect.

2. “Auditing” is a method of influence on the personality, not had the official approbation and, therefore, cannot be permitted. Use the procedure “auditing” of auto-suggestion, suggestion, visualisation on the background of altered States of consciousness is contrary to the following paragraphs of the Order of MH and MP of the Russian Federation from 13.06.96. No. 245 “On regulation of application of methods of psychological and psychotherapeutic influence,” namely; p. 1 - “to prevent the propagation and use in rehabilitation, prevention, treatment and rehabilitation are not allowed MZ and MP of the Russian Federation of methods of psychological and psychotherapeutic influence,” p. 3 - “application allowed, MZ and MP of the Russian Federation of methods of psychological and psychotherapeutic influence is allowed only if the license for this type of activity in healthcare, with careful selection of patients for individual examination”; p. 4 - “to work on the methods and techniques of psychological and psychotherapeutic influence permitted professionals with training in psychiatry, narcology, psychotherapy and medical psychology and has received in the prescribed manner a certificate for specified professions”.

Note: for a more specific answer to the Prosecutor's question “about the possibility of harm to the health of citizens in the application of techniques used in the Humanitarian Centre of Hubbard and Church of Scientology of Moscow” requires more direct examination of complex psychological and psychiatric Commission of persons seeking after exposure to Scientology techniques for psychological and psychiatric assistance in health institutions, as well as in the Center of rehabilitation of victims of nontraditional religions in memory of A. S. Khomyakov or psychological-psychiatric office at a counseling Center for victims of totalitarian sects and occult sake St. John of Kronstadt. St. John Of Kronstadt.

The experts presented materials on Saltykova O. contain information about repeating her self-analysis with a clearly negative evaluation of their behavior. Part of the materials represent the results of the Saltykova “editingrow”. A comparison of the results of a study of retrospective self-assessment Saltykova their behavior and experiences with the data its self-analysis of this behavior allows to make an assumption about the development of nes as a result of “editingrow” signs “of the disorder-type dependent personality” (ICD-10, F60.7).

Borisova E., a student of the Humanitarian Centre of Hubbard (1994), passed the procedure of “auditing” and independently carried it out in 1997 in the Spring of 1998 she was hospitalized in a psychiatric hospital in connection with the development of her psychotic state. These materials allow us to speak about temporal relationships of mental disorders with held “atitinkama”, the judgment about the direct or indirect cause may only be installed upon receipt of additional data (medical history, a comprehensive expert study of the CoE's mental state).

Information is presented on completion of the “cleansing Program” suggests that the consent for its passage given voluntarily after appropriate psychological “processing” customers. In terms of the “Agreement on the principles for the programme of purification” is specifically stipulates that the client “voluntarily agreed to the passage of a religious rite known as “purification Program” aimed at freeing the individual up spiritually from the devastating effects that having drugs drugs and toxins on spiritual essence”. The “Agreement on the principles of completing the cleanse program” dictated by fairly strict conditions. The person who decided to take this course, not only signs that voluntarily participates in the cleansing program, but “knows about the potential dangers of this Program”, and agrees “to accept any risk of injury, damage or harm” and also assumes “responsibility for any consequences” and “refuses compensation for moral and material damages, which may arise in the course of “cleansing Program”.

In the “Medical Declaration to participate in the cleansing program” paragraph of Declaration No. 2 reads as follows: “I understand that “cleansing Program” designed for spiritual assistance is not a medical treatment...”.

However, the “cleansing Program” is essentially physical exertion in running, long-lasting (several hours), stay in the sauna with high temperature (80 C.), administration of massive doses of vitamins, including Niacin drug is not approved for use in Russia, that is has a direct physical and biological effects on the body.

As can be seen from the presented documentation, the customer before acceptance of the procedure of “purification” is checked by a doctor (specialty not specified which), while only recorded height, weight, arterial blood pressure - other data medical examination no data on mental state. Despite the paucity of recorded data on all clients shall be made of standard medical conclusion; “there is No medical reason to believe that he (she) may not undergo a “cleansing Program”. Submissions also do not know who is (specialty, position) appoints, supervises and corrigiruet dosage and course duration of the mentioned methods of influence on the body.

In the process of implementation of “Programs” populated with “daily report”, which highlights the complaints of the patients in the sauna, when running, reactions to Niacin. As a rule, all patients except somatic complaints order have been complaints asthenic series (malaise, dizziness, sleep disturbances, headaches), and some “foggy mind” and “unclear thoughts”, apathy and affective disorders. In some cases, recorded strange customer comments; “this morning, I realized that this body was dangerous, there was always a lot of pain and little strength, whether to deal with him?” (Vorobiev, 24.12.98). However, all patients after the passage of a “cleansing Program” positively evaluated (without comparison and specification) the results.

According to L. B. Lazebnik, or in one case out of 7 submitted for examination was not submitted medical documentation confirming the existence of the indications for therapy with “Niacin”, there is no documentary confirmation of absence of contraindications to therapy. The appearance of complaints of itching, redness of skin that were noted in all seven cases, as well as the joining of the complaints that apparently testified to the worsening of patients of chronic diseases, the presence of which was not verified in the process of solving the issue of appointment of Niacin, did not lead to recommended in such cases elimination of the drug or reducing its dose. None of the patients who have had the above symptoms, have not received the recommendation to undergo an examination in a medical facility.

Thus, the experts presented the materials do not contain information about the indications of a “cleansing Program”. Carefully and in detail stipulated the contractual relationship, precluding the claim about the emergence of various forms of disorders and harm themselves but indicate the possibility of their development. According to experts, the health risk is especially important in the absence of the necessary preliminary and ongoing medical monitoring. All of this points to a clear violation of the Order of minzdravmedprom from 19.06.96. No. 254 on “the assumption of propaganda and the use of methods of detoxification, the other stemming from the teachings of R. Hubbard's methods of Scientology and Dianetics in the practice of health care”

comprehensive Expert opinion of the Commission: the application of techniques used in the Humanitarian Centre of Hubbard and Church of Scientology of Moscow, can cause harm to the health.

The head of Department GNTS them. V. P. Serbsky, Dr. med.PhD, Professor F.V. Kondrat'ev.
Chief therapist of the health Committee of Moscow, Dr. med.Sciences, Prof..
Chief therapist of the health Committee of Moscow, Cand.med.Sciences, associate Professor Yu. p. Boiko.
Senior researcher, state scientific center im. V. P. Serbsky,PhD. med. Sciences V. G. Vasilevsky.
Senior researcher, state scientific center im. V. P. Serbsky, PhD. med. Of Sciences T. A. Smirnova.
Head of city organizational-methodical Department of psychotherapy and medical psychology of the Committee of health of Moscow, N. E.Kyrov.
Psychiatrist expert of Department GNTS them.In.P.Serbian,I. Vinogradov.

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ERICH FROMM
Dianetics: the searchers fabricated happiness.

"New York Herald Tribune Book Review" 03.09.1950;
Translated from English by A. M. Rutkevich

Never before had the people not interested in the psychology and art of life as it is today. The fascination of books about this is a symptom of the serious concerns of the human and not only material, sides of existence. But among the books on this subject are not only satisfying the need for intelligent leadership, but those that attract readers, eager to fabricated happiness and miraculous healing. "Dianetics" - the last in this series of books, and the author uses all the components of the formula for success, and with amazing lack of any embarrassment. "The creation of Dianetics was the cornerstone for a Person, comparable to the discovery of fire and superior in importance to the invention of the wheel and the bow". The author [Lafayette Ronald (Ron) Hubbard] claims to have discovered not only "the only source of all kinds of neurosis, psychosis, criminality and psychosomatic illness" but also therapy that can heal all these diseases. "Dianetics cures, and cures without a miss".

The author first presents the General theory about the structure of the psyche, and then on this Foundation builds a theory of mental disorders and the technique of their treatment. "Man is motivated only by self-preservation". He wants to survive for himself, for sex, for groups and for mankind, and each of these "appropriate subdivisions of the dynamic principle of holistic" is called "dynamics". The author distinguishes between the "analytical mind", "perceives and retains experienced data to guide the body according to four dynamics," and "reactive mind", "memory and retains physical pain and painful emotions, trying to direct the organism solely on the basis of response to these "stimuli". If the analytical mind, compare with an exceptionally powerful calculating machine, thinking through similarities and differences, then the reactive mind thinks in identities alone.

The concept of the reactive mind is the basis of the theory of mental disorders and their treatment. In moments of intense physical and emotional pain the analytical mind is not working, and delivered in the presence of "unconscious" persons words accumulate as "engrams". These "engrams" is not available for the normal process of memories. Without realizing it, the man is determined by the contents of these "engrams" - similar to the behavior of someone who goes post-hypnotic suggestions received during hypnosis. "If the devil ever existed, he created the reactive mind... He does nothing, but at the same time creates everything that we find in any list of mental disorders: psychoses, neuroses, compulsive and repression From it... the person may be arthritis, bursitis, asthma... and so on, the whole catalog of psychosomatic diseases... Engram is the sole and exclusive source of variance and psychosomatic diseases."

Dianetics therapy follows from these premises. The patient ("preclear") is sick because of "engrams" urge him to do so. When vospominani ("returned") all important "engrams" - especially relevant to the antenatal period, the patient is permanently released ("cleared") from all "aberrations", it is superior to the average man by his intellect. The therapist ("auditor") contributes to this "return" of "engrams", leading the patient to a state of "reverie". If I will count from one to seven your eyes will close. You realize what is happening. Auditor "slowly and clearly" believed until the patient's eyes are closed. Then, during the "reverie", the patient said he "returned" to the early periods of his life, until the moment of its conception. After his "return" back to the present. "Engrams" need a lot of time to speak, until they "erased" permanently.

Despite all the fantastic claims of the author, it's hard to find anything original in his theories, but new words for a mixture of poorly understood and digested Freudianism and experiments for regression in the era of hypnotism. Other truly "original" words cannot but cause amazement. So, we hear from the patient the words the doctor [allegedly] told them a pregnant mother's or the father's words said to his mother immediately after conception. Reading this history, one wonders: did not want the author to write a funny parody on certain psychiatric theories and the gullible public?

Hubbard Book difficult to seriously consider as a contribution to the science of Man. But it should seriously be considered a symptom of a dangerous trend. Whether she's just a very simplified early popularization of Freud's theories, it would be something harmless.[...] "Dianetics" doesn't know nor reverence for the complexity of the human personality, nor her understanding. The man is a machine and rationality, value judgments, mental health, happiness are achieved through the work of the engineer. "In an engineering science like Dianetics, we work, pressing buttons". Doesn't need to know or understand, you want to apply Habarovskiy the theory of engrams. If someone does not accept this theory, then he must have ulterior motives, or he is at the mercy of "denier" which is "every engram, forcing the patient to assume that the engrams do not exist." So simple. If you read a book by Hubbard, then you know what you should know about man and society, because you know which buttons to press.

Problems of values or conscience does not exist. If "engrams" is erased, then you have no conflicts. All the great teachers of philosophy and religion unnecessarily wasting time. No problem, that would not have been the result of teams going from "engrams". There is no use of reflection on the problems if you know the opening Hubbard. Although the author says that "philosophical foundations" of his work make the Scriptures "of the ancient Hindus", proceedings of the "early Greeks and Romans", including Lucrezia, the works of Francis bacon, the researches of Darwin and some of the ideas of Herbert Spencer, it is hard to believe.[...] Opening, according to whom "self-preservation" is the only purpose of life" is not an expression of the spirit of the "ancient Hindus" or "the early Greeks", but - of coarse biologism for which all ethical values are subordinated to the urge for self-preservation (if these values generally remains at least some place).

what is worse, as it is written "Dianetics". A mixture of known number of simplified truths, half-truths and blatant absurdity, propaganda technique overwhelm the reader with their greatness, infallibility and newness of the system of the author, the promise of unheard of results attained by the simple following of "Dianetics"- here is a technique that leads to the most calamitous results in the areas of proprietary medicine and politics. In relation to psychology and psychiatry it will not be less harmful.

This negative view of "Dianetics" is not a consequence of the fact that the reviewer thinks that the current methods of psychiatry are satisfactory; there is a valid need for new ideas and experiments. Fortunately, this is realized by many psychiatrists and psychologists engaged in the search for more effective methods to achieve the level of unconsciousness (for example, "Looking-in" test Schlesinger). But the premise of these searches should be the strengthening of responsibility, criticality and clarity of mind of the patient.

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Post by ИвановичАИ » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:48

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a Few words about Dianetics.

Ron Hubbard founded, in fact, another mystical teachings, interspersed with rhetoric about mental health. Scientists have long proved that his magical measuring device "colors of life", in which a person, is an ordinary galvanometer. Sam Hubbard in 1978, has been prosecuted for fraud under the guise of "Dianetics research" and was sentenced to four years in prison and large monetary fines. His followers aggressively hammered into the heads of his disciples with the same ideas in regard to spiritual reincarnation, ESP, etc.

-What is an engram, which constantly writes Hubbard?

It's like a bad "imprint" in the brain, negatively affecting its ongoing activities. Hubbard and his followers argue that the attainment of mental health a person must get rid of all his engrams.

And how to relate to this perspective?

Many members of the sect repeatedly "liberated" from engrams by using electric current, but their life has not become happier. All ended with the usual "brainwashing" and escape from reality.

-it turns Out that all of Dianetics is built on mysticism and deceit?

Not all of it. It has sensible ideas, borrowed from psychoanalysis and neurolinguistic programming, but they are constantly interspersed completely wild mystical gobbledygook. Yes, otherwise such groups can not be.

Yet man is not completely fool, he is comparing, in the words of Mark TWAIN, "the mermaid" and "seal", can see the absurdity of the case, in which it was involved. Not casually modern psychologists refer Dianetics to the category of "cults of unreason". It is time to understand that such groups are not interested in the attainment of truth, and in the admission to its ranks new members who become cannon fodder.

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The Ministry of health and medical industry of the Russian Federation dated 19.06.1996 №254 “About the abolition of the “Methodical recommendations “the Program of detoxication”


In order to adjust the normative base of the Ministry of health and medical industry of the Russian Federation in accordance with the current legislation I order:

1. The heads of health authorities of Russian regions, heads of health institutions under Federal jurisdiction, including scientific research, medical and educational, nullifying approved 5 August 1994 Deputy Minister of health and medical industry of the Russian Federation V. K. Agapov “Methodical recommendations “the Program of detoxication”.

to avoid propaganda and the use of methods of detoxification, the other stemming from the teachings of R. Hubbard's methods of Scientology and Dianetics in health care practice.

2. Control over execution of this order reserve.

Minister A. D. Tsaregorodtsev

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Pseudoscience Dianetics

Hubbard has demonstrated hypnosis on the stage in 1948, Soon after, he wrote to his literary agent that has invented a new project, which in many respects can become a salable commodity. Creating a hybrid of the techniques of hypnosis with the old methods of Freud, from which he quickly refused, Hubbard "gave birth" Dianetics. Modifying without any additional "research" technique of hypnosis, he published the book "Dianetics: the modern science of mental health".

Book Dianetically "Dianetics" is a mix of written in the so-called Newspeak. In this case gross incompetence Hubbard in medicine generally and in psychiatry in particular is downright striking. Actually, the whole Newspeak and pseudoscientific terminology Hubbard needed only in order to cover up their ignorance and to present as great discoveries have long been known or even already put in the scrap ideas and theories. The same purpose is the fact that the book is written in an extremely authoritarian tone and with great fanfare.

In a lecture given in 1909, Freud told about the invented method for detection of traumatic memories. Patients were asked to recall all the earlier and earlier the "chain" incidents in my life, as long as they will not release the emotional "charge". Hubbard is not only the idea, but even bother to change the number of terms of Freud. Freud later abandoned this method as it was too time consuming and also could not identify the main traumatic memories. In fact, even if at first Dianetics sometimes and brings some relief, it often leads to the dangerous belief that fictitious events are true. Hubbard took Freud's method, and added some ideas from very popular in the time of the book Karibskogo "General semantics" and founded the whole system on the assumption that the initial traumatic event happens to a person in the womb. The last idea that Hubbard borrowed from the books of Otto Rank, Nandor Fodor and George. Segera. Hubbard also claimed that people can remember the sensations in the womb up to the moment of conception (so-called "sperm dream"). It was also borrowed from Fedora written about "prenatal memory."

Hubbard redefined the existing term "engram", calling them a traumatic incident with a person in an unconscious state. In the book "Dianetics: the modern science of mental health" stated that, "erasing" these engrams, the person is exempt from samoopredelenie, obsessions, neuroses, and diseases such as heart failure, poor eyesight, asthma, colour blindness, allergies, stuttering, deafness, sinusitis, hypertension, dermatitis, migraine, various ulcers, arthritis, nausea and vomiting of pregnancy in the morning, cold, conjunctivitis, alcoholism and tuberculosis. Soon Hubbard said that by using his system you can be cured from leukemia and cancer. Of course, Hubbard never gave any scientific evidence for his incredible claims.

People understand that all the statistics Hubbard, pure fiction. Subsequently, his son from his first marriage told me that most of his writings, Hubbard wrote in a condition of narcotic intoxicationalthough Hubbard himself told his friends that his hand was guided "Empress" and he wrote "Dianetics" by means of "automatic writing" for a few days.

Scientists have conducted rigorous scientific scrutiny offered by the Hubbard method, which revealed its complete scientific failure. Since then, Hubbard held a big grudge against psychiatrists, psychologists, journalists, and actually on the whole not accepted his teachings light.

Revenues began to decline, the fans dissipated, besides crumbling second marriage with Sarah Hubbard. Wife accused him of causing her beatings, torture and many other things, and Hubbard responded in his style: he took their little daughter to Cuba and hid there. From there he wrote denunciations to the FBI that his wife is a Communist. To get the child, the wife eventually took the claim out of court.

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Ivanovichiyou have so much PR the cult of Scientology here have thrown you and the candle in Church will not save you.
You understand, a passionate and destructive sects that either you've not spent the salary of CIA losers from samurovi, or, at the very worst, caught the hand of the copyist Dianetics, Lafayette Ron Hubbard, secretly think to ride almost forgotten the book in the same order - prozombirovat readers and to cash in on finding their salvation from thee invented for them horror stories.
Typical sectarian treatment - first scare invented a non-existent problem, and then begin to offer salvation from it . But not for nothing, of course. Not for nothing.

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ЕвгенийР wrote:Ivanovichiyou have so much PR the cult of Scientology here have thrown you and the candle in Church will not save you.
You understand, a passionate and destructive sects that either you've not spent the salary of CIA losers from samurovi, or, at the very worst, caught the hand of the copyist Dianetics, Lafayette Ron Hubbard, secretly think to ride almost forgotten the book in the same order - prozombirovat readers and to cash in on finding their salvation from thee invented for them horror stories.
Typical sectarian treatment - first scare invented a non-existent problem, and then begin to offer salvation from it . But not for nothing, of course. Not for nothing.
You the man from a strange... Started in his first lines Dianetics to propagandnih, and when you caught and pointed out to you that you are a zealot and your brothers cultists freaks - immediately regrouped and began to blame me for this... Even know what the CIA (did you ever decipher, maybe it's a CIA unit, where you were trained).
And it would be better you shut up, without the benefit of your comments is still there.

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Ivanovichito promote?
You have your Scientology opus in the first lines of his writings read is simply a retelling of Dianetics sauce remake.
And as you pointed out that Scientology is an old invalid command parasites, capable of nothing in the last 70 years, there also started to play kettle and drive you masking fog.
But here you have not coped.
Lit is the loser.

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ЕвгенийР wrote:Ivanovichito promote?
You have your Scientology opus in the first lines of his writings read is simply a retelling of Dianetics sauce remake.
And as you pointed out that Scientology is an old invalid command parasites, capable of nothing in the last 70 years, there also started to play kettle and drive you masking fog.
But here you have not coped.
Lit is the loser.
How would you not disguised Scientology sectarian chudilova you for your writings immediately obvious :-)
Eat more of your sectarian shit, maybe you'll feel better


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Ivanovichiyou're a hard-nosed master.
By hook or by crook in the ears is Scientology trying to ride.
Calm down already, just not rolling.
Reason Past to the Future dragged, so much so intricate that at first do not understand what the conversation.
The conversation about the same - about the fee for the rescue.

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ЕвгенийР wrote:Ivanovichiyou're a hard-nosed master.
By hook or by crook in the ears is Scientology trying to ride.
Calm down already, just not rolling.
Reason Past to the Future dragged, so much so intricate that at first do not understand what the conversation.
The conversation about the same - about the fee for the rescue.
Incompetent Scientology, read science can then stop advertising your sect and Dianetics. Show this article to your friends Scientologists, even the science of reading, not your fucking Hubbard

About the physiological mechanisms of "psychological protection" and unaccountable emotions.
E. A. Kostandov

(Physiological Mechanisms of "Psychological Defence" and Unaccountable Emotions. E. A. Kostandov)
Central scientific research Institute of forensic psychiatry, Moscow

When theotocopuli exposures of individual words Mak-Jini [38] for the first time found that
normal investigated - students - the threshold of "conscious" identification of swear words
("indecent" or "taboo" - words) are clearly elevated compared with the threshold of "neutral" words.
On "taboo"-words recorded galvanic skin response (GSR) during these short
exhibitions in which the investigated still could not read a word. Speculation about these "taboo"-words,
if they were made usually were not associated with the content words. It
amazing to watch, said poppy-Gini as a normal young girl with
undisturbed vision in some cases was not able to read "bad" words in
while they were clearly visible to another observer. The fact of raising the threshold identification
the words Mac-Jeanie explained as "psychological defense" as a result of existence as it
filter in visual perception, which, to the extent possible, protects the subject from
awareness of emotionally unpleasant stimuli of the external environment. It is interesting that already in this
the first work of Mak-Jeanie raised the question of the neurophysiological explanation of the observed
them phenomenon. He allowed two possible neural mechanism for the development of GSR before
"taboo"is a word understood subject: GSR is the result of feedback from the cortex
associative centers or direct action of visual impulses to the thalamus.
Described of Mak-Jeanie fact changes the threshold of perception of emotionally significant stimuli
and their effects on various human functions at subthreshold "unconscious" level
confirmed in numerous works [14; 26; 48; 49; 50; 51]. However, all these works
criticized from the methodological side [20; 21; 25; 29; 30]. Was made
the view that the threshold identification of words, as measured by the ascending process boundaries, much
depend on the frequency of their use in the past by the same entity. In addition, the person may
consciously slow down your verbal response, i.e., to refrain from pronouncing the "taboo"-
words. However, in a specially staged experiments, it was shown that the frequency of words in
the past has no significant effect on the threshold of their identification [32; 41].
Lazarus and MC Cleary [33] obtained experimentally the phenomenon of increasing the threshold
identification of emotional stimuli. In healthy adults they are pre -
developed into syllables defensive conditional response to electrocutaneous
reinforcement. After that, we measured the thresholds of visual identification of the various syllables.
It turned out that the thresholds of identification of syllables that were developed defensive reaction
clearly higher than on other "neutral" syllables, although any difference in degree of use
studied these syllables in the past was not and it was impossible to think that they suppress their
response. Fares [44] repeated these experiments and found that the thresholds of identification of syllables, on the contrary,
reduced, if they produced a defensive reaction of avoidance. Dixon and
Lire [19] noted both increase and decrease; Goldstein and Chemical properties of Malfarb [27] - only
raising the threshold tachistoscopically presented emotional words.
Dixon and Lear [19] raising the threshold of identification of emotional words trying to explain
predsoznatel (prior to awareness) the assessment imposed incentives, resulting in
changes the level of cortical activity. In the experiment that validates this hypothesis, the authors
recorded background EEG during the procedure of determining the threshold visual identification
words. One part of the study was observed a high threshold of identification of emotional words
compared with neutral words, the other lower. It turned out that the amplitude of alphaactivity,
register to identifying emotional verbal stimulus, positive
correlated with the magnitude of the threshold of identification: when a high threshold is marked synchronization of the EEG in
the occipital region, with a low - reduction of synchronicity. These data, according to Dixon and
Lira confirmed their hypothesis about the neural mechanism of threshold changes of perception
emotional words, as a result predsoznatel changes in the level of cortical activity
implemented the reticular formation of the brain stem.
Unfortunately, besides the above-mentioned work of Dixon and Lira [19], we failed to detect
studies in which physiological positions studied would be nervous mechanisms
"psychological protection" and human response to unconscious stimuli. These two questions
closely linked, because the subthreshold effect of unconscious emotional words
appears only in case of increase of the threshold of their awareness. As rightly writes Spence
[50], the perception of "no awareness" and "psychological protection", i.e. raising the threshold identification
external stimulus are two sides of the same coin.
Fundamental relationship subliminal effect of emotional words and the phenomenon of "psychological
protection" has also revealed in our research. They have been excitable
psychopathic personalities who were in serious conflict situations.
These persons with the emotionally labile character, staying a long time in a state
emotional stress, are very suitable for study
perception of emotionally significant stimuli. In these cases, significantly
facilitates the selection of verbal stimuli that cause negative emotions.
After ten minutes of adaptation to darkness was measured for the threshold identification
"neutral" (common nouns) and "conflict" or
"emotional" words related to a difficult life situation investigated.
A single word was presented on the electroluminescent screen with low persistence (1
msec). The exposure time of the word at the beginning of his presentation was known to be small (50 msec),
so the subjects could not read it. Then the periods of the exposition of the word slowly (with a pause
between each presentation 20-60 seconds) increased (20-50 msec) as long as
investigated, preliminary instructions did not say out loud this word without error.
Thus, the threshold of perception of the words was determined by the minimum exposure time,
which we need researched for his "conscious" identity. After two to four
neutral words were presented emotional word, then again one or two neutral.
Compared threshold identification of words with the same number of letters.
With the aim of identifying sub-threshold actions are emotional words during the entire procedure
measuring the threshold of both neutral and emocionalnij words on the polygraph were recorded
background EEG, GSR (Tarkhanov at), respiratory movements of the chest, pulse rate and
plethysmogram finger. The subliminal effect was determined by the difference in thresholds between the
verbal report identifying words or bioelectric and vegetative reactions.
The threshold for the identification of neutral words in our studies ranges from a wide
range from 100 to 600 msec (table). It to a certain degree depends on the number of letters in the word
and, apparently, from the typological features of the study, his past life experience
installation on a study, etc.
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ЕвгенийР wrote:Ivanovichiyou're a hard-nosed master.
By hook or by crook in the ears is Scientology trying to ride.
Calm down already, just not rolling.
Reason Past to the Future dragged, so much so intricate that at first do not understand what the conversation.
The conversation about the same - about the fee for the rescue.
You dropout of Scientology, study discoveries Pavlova is he your Hubbard stole the ideas and wrote them in your lousy book Dianetics. Learn the science, stop reading the book Dianetics, you from her brain grows dull...

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ЕвгенийР wrote:Ivanovichiyou're a hard-nosed master.
By hook or by crook in the ears is Scientology trying to ride.
Calm down already, just not rolling.
Reason Past to the Future dragged, so much so intricate that at first do not understand what the conversation.
The conversation about the same - about the fee for the rescue.
Here you uneducated fogged brain Habarovskij books
more information for enlightenment, though I doubt it will help - you're brainwashed in a cult :-)
But you straining can something before you who dedicated their lives to Scientology and reach...

lies and the facts about Ron Hubbard.

facts and Assertions

Ron Hubbard this collection does not aim to conduct a full analysis of the activities of L. Ron Hubbard, founder of Dianetics and Scientology. It was my job to find those facts that the followers of L. Ron Hubbard are issued for inventions or discoveries of L. Ron Hubbard, thereby deceiving not only his new followers, but also the General public, which is seeing other organizations and movements loudly advertised Scientologists scientific methods and tools, accepted these organizations and movements for the followers of L. Ron Hubbard. It is as if invented in 1893 by A. S. Popov transmitter for the system of telegraphy without wires would be in 1955, publicized by L. Ron Hubbard, and then in our days everyone who uses a mobile phone would be considered a Scientologist.

L. Ron Hubbard claimed that he was in 1953 came up with the name of his organization "Scientology".

Facts
The name of the teachings of "Scientology" was first found in the book of Allen Upward "New word" ("The New Word"), written in 1901 and published in 1908 in London.

In 1934 he published a book "Scientology (Scientologie): the science of the inner nature and applicability of knowledge", publishing house "Ernst Reinhardt" in Munich (Germany). This work by the German philosopher Dr. A. Nordenholz (Dr. A. Nordenholz).

Read excerpts from this book on the English site http://www.scientologie.de

Insights
The concept of "Scientology" is owned by Alain Upward (1908), and the term "Scientologie" as a scientific, owned by A. Nordenholz (1934).

L. Ron Hubbard claimed that "E-meter" (a device for measuring mental mass), is his invention.

Facts
"Electropsychometer" (later called L. Ron Hubbard "E-meter") was constructed by American physicist W. Metiznom (Volney G. Mathison) in the 1940-ies. The original device had a different name from "Mathison Electro-psychometer" to more scientific-sounding name "electroencephaloneuromentimograph" ("electroencephalograph"). The device was designed to "study the reactions of the unconscious" based on the theories of Sigmund Freud's "psychoanalytic" model of memory, and, in particular, the doctrine of the "unconscious".

The prototype device was known during the Great Patriotic war polygraphs: "Skin Galvanometer" and "Lie Detector". In 1952 Volney Matheson has transferred the rights to L. Ron Hubbard, in 1966, L. Ron Hubbard received a patent for "E-meter" (US Patent 3,290,589 issued Dec. 6th, 1966 Device for Measuring and Indicating Changes in the Resistance of a Human Body Inventor: Lafayette R. Hubbard).

Reference: Hubbard's Son, Ronald Jr., however, believed, quote: "My father obtained the rights to the E-meter in 1952 from Volney Matheson way he usually did everything - deception and coercion." The testimony of Ronald Hubbard Junior under oath in court htm">http://www.lermanet2.com/cos/rondewolf.htm

Discoveries in the field of communication of emotional States and of electric skin resistance (GSR) produced in 1888, our countryman, physiologist, Prince of I. R. Tarkhanov, a student of I. M. Sechenov. Similar experiments were conducted in the same years and abroad physiologists W. Feret, O. Vergata, psychologists W. Wundt, W. James.

Certificate of theory of I. R. Tarkhanov: any irritation caused to the person, in 1-10 seconds. latent period causes the first light and slow, and then all scoresese deflection of the mirror galvanometer, often beyond the scale. This deviation sometimes lasting several minutes upon termination of the stimulus. Gradually, the mirror of the galvanometer returns to its original position.

It was also observed that the electric phenomena in the human skin drastically worse with imaginary imagination sensations, with an abstract mental activity, while stimulation of the nervous system, fatigue, and other mental operations.

Information about electrical activity of the skin: Methods of registration. Measurement and study of electrical activity of the skin (aeacus), or galvanic skin response (GSR), was first started in the late 19th century when almost simultaneously a French doctor fere and Russian physiologist Tarkhanov registered: the first is the change in resistance of the skin by passing through it of a weak current, the second potential difference between different areas of the skin. These discoveries formed the basis for two methods of registration KGR: aksiomaticheskoi (measurement of skin resistance) and endodonticheskogo (measurement of the electrical potential of the skin). It should be remembered that these methods provide different results.

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IvanovichiI myself never Scientology nonsense is not read. Tried 20 years ago, but there such nonsense suffered from the beginning that to continue was pointless.
But you know so much about Scientology and so hurriedly trying to cover up the links your translucent Scientology ass, what are you in a Scientology sense, a long time there is nowhere to put the sample.
Ivanovichiyou know the size of the sample? So that's it - nowhere to put you. All stained badly disguised Dianetics in luzerskoy, most of the cave interpretation.
You do not think that if mow a simple plagiarist, it frees you from the sectarian responsibility. Quite the contrary. There is not ignorance or an honest error, and persistently pursued the intent to introduce Scientology in minds unfamiliar with the subject population.
You begin as follows on the instructions, of intimidation.

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Ivanovichi, you should not boil at Evgenii
This guy I knew in the past - we studied together at the Scientology organization.
He's always been strange to me its ryanostyu and blinkered, but when he was caught trying to molest sexually by the men in the organization, then kicked...
Apparently he was there and dicking with his Scientology, so to say tries to take revenge on all and Sundry that he was not in Delhi to do faggot... So don't answer that - this is the most reasonable ;-)

PS PM me text me I'll text you his contact details and his name so you know who is hiding behind a username and havnet here. When a person is open - from is not behaving.

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ФедорРФ wrote:Ivanovichi, you should not boil at Evgenii
This guy I knew in the past - we studied together at the Scientology organization.
He's always been strange to me its ryanostyu and blinkered, but when he was caught trying to molest sexually by the men in the organization, then kicked...
Apparently he was there and dicking with his Scientology, so to say tries to take revenge on all and Sundry that he was not in Delhi to do faggot... So don't answer that - this is the most reasonable ;-)

PS PM me text me I'll text you his contact details and his name so you know who is hiding behind a username and havnet here. When a person is open - from is not behaving.

Here's a photo of where it is in the celebration of the Church of Scientology
Thank you, pointed you to the PED... And I think what he barnyard... :-)

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ФедорРФ wrote:Ivanovichi, you should not boil at Evgenii
This guy I knew in the past - we studied together at the Scientology organization.
He's always been strange to me its ryanostyu and blinkered, but when he was caught trying to molest sexually by the men in the organization, then kicked...
Apparently he was there and dicking with his Scientology, so to say tries to take revenge on all and Sundry that he was not in Delhi to do faggot... So don't answer that - this is the most reasonable ;-)

PS PM me text me I'll text you his contact details and his name so you know who is hiding behind a username and havnet here. When a person is open - from is not behaving.

Here's a photo of where it is in the celebration of the Church of Scientology
And which he took a course the sectarians?
You yourself are still out there in Scientology?

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ИвановичАИ wrote:And which he took a course the sectarians?
You yourself are still out there in Scientology?
I'm not in that sect. Was there for work - it was necessary to track their contacts with foreign intelligence.
And this NIT, nothing special took place, just snooping around like a rat in search of a man... :-)
When I saw him, especially his mouth - almost vomit...

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ФедорРФ wrote:
ИвановичАИ wrote:And which he took a course the sectarians?
You yourself are still out there in Scientology?
I'm not in that sect. Was there for work - it was necessary to track their contacts with foreign intelligence.
And this NIT, nothing special took place, just snooping around like a rat in search of a man... :-)
When I saw him, especially his mouth - almost vomit...
Understand you.
Thank you for the info you gave in PM ;-)
And this PED... let your mouth does her thing, now it is fashionable... (EW gross)

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Ivanovichiwell done, well bredyatinu compose.
Immediately visible state training. You in what state to infiltrate something is ready?
Let me see your face.
But cook-don't cook it, and plagiarist always a plagiarist.
I first wrote to you that, according to information from members of the forum, you foolingswiping delusional Scientology seminars. And what else can you do if you always hide behind someone else? Once I started to steal from Hubbard.
Now and will - stole - relieved. Stole a lot better.
And remains in this mode only fooling, suggesting shabby horror stories. Or spending above the audience psychotropic experiments. 8)
Want to be the last Scientologist in Russia? Just look,will burden you with extra features, and then, as usual, flushed down the toilet.
The karma from phonies to be in the end launched.
Bedarf you and tear. It's easier, you do not suspect. Why the office any more problems. And make is absolutely correct.

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Re: how the Past is killing your Future

Post by ИвановичАИ » Mon Oct 29, 2018 23:58

ФедорРФ wrote:
ИвановичАИ wrote:And which he took a course the sectarians?
You yourself are still out there in Scientology?
I'm not in that sect. Was there for work - it was necessary to track their contacts with foreign intelligence.
And this NIT, nothing special took place, just snooping around like a rat in search of a man... :-)
When I saw him, especially his mouth - almost vomit...
This peda... write to me in PM, might tempt me wants to... (PAH-PAH-PAH - away from me evil...)
I scored a photo in Google and found it on the party of queers... Threw you in PM the link - check it out

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Re: how the Past is killing your Future

Post by ИвановичАИ » Tue Oct 30, 2018 0:09

ЕвгенийР wrote:Ivanovichiwell done, well bredyatinu compose.
Immediately visible state training. You in what state to infiltrate something is ready?
Let me see your face
I'm second from the left :-)

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And here I am second from the right ;-)

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Well, here almost in full growth, and without the jacket

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And you can your face show?... Or weak :-)

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