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Re: Egregores

Post by Ольга Лагуза » Thu Apr 14, 2016 16:14

мимоходом wrote:And if all what I said is not true - what is the difference of this website from religion, faith or sect? Why the cult's egregore, and the website no?
I think here on the website, too much diversity of interests at least for one of the EGREGORE.

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Re: Egregores

Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Thu Apr 14, 2016 16:31

мимоходом wrote:That is, the animals are fully on the program of the egregore, created by the Creator. And the people in sects are working also on programs, but egregore created by people.
Exactly, and the people on the program Egregores ,because of the program of the Creator was replaced by its own rules))But there is also a self-cell , it's like Tribal , territorial and others, although initially when appears in that cell for three persons , it is still possible to consider the Association , and already introduced there rules and regulations, we can say that the steel rules of the Egregore, which is now filled with its Charter, so to speak. Egregors of Animals or cells even so natural , the Creator is written))And people rules and laws have come up in these egregors themselves. If everyone adhered to the same Law -do not do to others what you yourself do not want, no rules would need from the outside , but to live in harmony with the Creator and in the environment.
мимоходом wrote:What, then, is man different from animal? Perhaps consciousness... Conscious person in the program will not work, I guess.
Created religious Egregors it is because the unconscious was 90% and the conscious , become smart and some are cunning of mind )) and formed their own Egregors how to use and harness are not reasonable )))To some extent justifies, kind of like good intentions, and even of the Inquisition))was.
мимоходом wrote:in Other words the whole point of consciousness. Someone it is less, the person involves himself in a cult and managed by its collective unconscious (which is formed by the leader of the sect). And someone more consciousness - that at programs of sect misses and generates your program.
Conducted research on involvement in sects and in different kinds of structures, who can not say, but the person I personally know, myself he checked in on how the involvement (and not just because of curiosity) and how to reflash the man just a week, by appointment under various pretexts, force , different opiates , herbs, and gases. To finally there not broken and that then to tell, asked for 5 days like , not find it , and after five days , if he's not back , pull out , and if necessary with Riot police, and came out with a Riot))))otherwise do not let go.
A conscious guide not really needed, only sotovarischi and companion , to share his memories ,experiences and listen to the other .
мимоходом wrote:And if all what I said is not true - what is the difference of this website from religion, faith or sect? Why the cult's egregore, and the website no? If you criticize that such a word is necessary as in alcoholics anonymous to take and to admit "I'm an alcoholic", or "I'm the egregore, the sect". And then to criticize. Yourself )))
Religion in the sauce of virtue often kolechat soul more than prison. In prison immediately clear-the law strictly requires obedience. But religion in any , first, we will help you , and then you must!!! And the Creator he is not in religion and not in the Church , mosque , pagoda , synagogue...He is in us and there is a subconscious , it is the program Creator and our experience of using this program .
Any entity is, the Egregore ))) and our website is,the Egregore, formed by the readers , users on a voluntary basis. ))No one forced to buy makes to the house and the door does not ring and does not say:"Buy from us and you will be saved !! And only our product, you will be lifted to the seventh heaven , much to the angels. And Heaven VM will provide , and further here and there happy life" Site , it's just advertising engine sales and most importantly the ability to communicate on interests , knowing myself and helping another to learn , on a voluntary basis. No one calls or offers goods, because we deliver quickly and the goods are better)))
Everyone chooses what to use.
The only site is the Egregore , formed not only by the sellers and the authors of the product, and us ,users. When I too was just a user.
To get involved, whether in full "obedience" to the Egregor , or rather author of their goods, matter, the knowledge all here to help)))
From my own observations work not only here, people need communication , and often "access to a body" the author considered what he was going to use purchased right. Do not argue, maybe so, but if the author is quite clearly explained how something works, then access to the body can not gaiditi)))
If this course is not specific practices that verbal is difficult to pass, and Yes, the team practices more powerful prorabatyvayutsya, adding up the energy and mind of the audience.
And Yes, often the Word totalitarian is needed , with strict control , provided , however, that is not controlled ...then of course you can say a lot , just ask the question and who is not controlled? and who managed and totalitarianism-is not freedom...and blablabla ...
And freedom she won in the tribes of Africa , Indonesia and go with bare bottoms and nothing they don't need, eat potikha each other for what looked askance ...stole a cow. No moral basetest. Although....there are some conventions, and they have.
And here it makes raspyleniya , since they are so free , why not developed? Yes, because their Last wants, they of NZ Land)))the Survival rate is large , in the nature , not littered tekhnogennoi. Who so poor or happy or annoying guards?
In passing, I will not argue with you and prove nothing, because your truth is always higher without ernichane on my part.
But if we consider the tribes ,at the level of the primitive , something like that thinking arises , but not for the same scheme that they and the animals egregors work ?
Can't exactly say, not really talked to them, no experience. those who spoke , saying : first ,some time had lived in their midst that they are very advanced in nature and conscience pure from them , the mind is not technogene, and the mind is clear)))
And the second telling-the primitive-level monkeys. Disagree with both sides. different tribes and different geographically, and different Egregors to run. And of course rules and regulations depend on there ..so to speak of the degree of development of the "Management Company ")))the Egregor .<

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Re: Egregores

Post by мимоходом » Thu Apr 14, 2016 16:36

A physical manifestation of the egregore is sex, power and money. The sex was okay, most sects have practiced it in one form or another with the cultists, of course for mass enlightenment (Tantra in a group of more than 2 people of the same sect). With the government all too clear - the hierarchical organization of any kind where there is a knowledgeable leader (or MAG), which is based on self-similar. And the money is understandable especially. All sects have a monetary goal. No matter - press followers apartment in donations or to sell "mark" for money.

Remove these three incentive - and the egregore is nothing left )) And what's left? Well, first you need to remove the excess, and then look at the remaining.
I Think here on the website, too much diversity of interests at least for one of the EGREGORE.
everyone thinks so - they say, Oh, he is out of egregors. And his entourage also out. But all the others that are not included in the environment - they are under the egregore. 8)

PS I also do not argue, just lay out your vision :)
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Re: Egregores

Post by Ольга Лагуза » Thu Apr 14, 2016 16:47

The EGREGOR should be the core leader, the center (depending on certain circumstances). A good example of this would be the atom as a centre of force, the aspect of electrical phenomena, that is the energy center that is active and releases energy, heat or radiation as the sun is surrounded by planets – electrons.

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Re: Egregores

Post by Ольга Лагуза » Thu Apr 14, 2016 16:53

мимоходом wrote:everyone thinks so - they say, Oh, he is out of egregors.
I didn't mean that wrote. Out of the egregores, that is equivalent to the working out of karma, the study of all the aspects of the planets your horoscope is being in the center of the wheel of samsara, and that is not without egregor. In another case, at what stage and what the egregore you (I) are, what we serve, how such ideas and how tall they are.

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Re: Egregores

Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Thu Apr 14, 2016 16:54

Ольга Лагуза wrote:Egregor (al-Greek. ἐγρήγοροι, "guardians") — in occult and new (non-traditional) religious movements — the soul of things, "mental condensate" generated by the thoughts and emotions of people and gain independent existence.
Yes , I also think that soobrazheniia in the cell "condensate" in the form of energy , samorazvitie , filled and supported , but don't forget about Degregoria structures, which are subject to Egregors and their cheecky-honey comb filling and support this Egregore.
And above-has its own Hierarchy))
And Olga, you are the first about Egregors then started a conversation. Bold, he's already ahead of you a few topics about different kinds of Egregors created and as its understanding and development , have been opisyval their experiences and knowledge. so here Is a guide of what thought forms are and how they can fill, control ))) thinking correctly, he will understand what I mean above about the manual is written)))
And everyone here on the forum you can keep track of who and what Egregor which way directs))) And when pulling .
Have you not noticed this??????

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Re: Egregores

Post by Ольга Лагуза » Thu Apr 14, 2016 17:01

ЛИЛИЯ-Р wrote:AND everyone here on the forum you can keep track of who and what Egregor which way directs))) And when pulling .
Have you not noticed this??????
I try to be attentive to the world, but not always it turns out to be impartial in judgment.

in passing
Only Lopez thinks that he is outside any of the egregore.

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Re: Egregores

Post by Ольга Лагуза » Thu Apr 14, 2016 17:07

мимоходом wrote:a Physical manifestation of the egregore is sex, power and money. The sex was okay, most sects have practiced it in one form or another with the cultists, of course for mass enlightenment (Tantra in a group of more than 2 people of the same sect). With the government all too clear - the hierarchical organization of any kind where there is a knowledgeable leader (or MAG), which is based on self-similar. And the money is understandable especially. All sects have a monetary goal. No matter - press followers apartment in donations or to sell "mark" for money.

Remove these three incentive - and the egregore is nothing left )) And what's left? Well, first you need to remove the excess, and then look at the remaining.
You are a bit collectively represent the Egregore. Each egregor physical manifestation is the materialization of the idea, which is the head, that is, You just mixed a bunch of different egregors, and took into account the lower manifestations.

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Re: Egregores

Post by мимоходом » Thu Apr 14, 2016 17:14

Can you give an example egregors without these manifestations?

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Re: Egregores

Post by Ольга Лагуза » Thu Apr 14, 2016 18:40

мимоходом wrote:can you give an example egregors without these manifestations?
I'll try it. Take for example egregor of Love, again, is so marked, in fact it can be Eros, son of Zeus, i.e. the Archetype, not about that right now. For ease of understanding we can take the triangle the top of which there Will be Love in the highest degree of understanding, to God, to Motherland, to Nature, to everything, most importantly, without ego, desire to enslave and other lower selfish kinds of love, which also belong to this egregore but are on the levels below. To this egregore we include sex of course, and one that is committed to reproduction, and that for those and perverted sex will also be relevant to this egregore but all this will have its own tier and lower down, the harder and less less spiritually. To take sexual energy and chakra when she is in Muladhara chakra, will be one effect, when it is in other Manipur, anahata in it will love, in AGANA wisdom, etc. tantric followers practiced the sublimation of the higher energy centers, chakras, to siddhi.

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Re: Egregores

Post by Ольга Лагуза » Thu Apr 14, 2016 19:01

For example: Abesalom Underwater, there is a great difficulty - "Returned to the occult, or the Story of slim seven". There he relies (uses) and the Rose of the World Daniel Andreev, and the assemblage point of Carlos Castaneda, and the Archetypes and Egregors and a lot of other things. Synthesis. So, there he takes initially three main egregor. First Brama Pluto, the quality Will. Second, quote, better the one who said it not say:

Second Main egregor (Vishnu is God the preserver of the world, God the son, the planet Neptune) is the key word PERCEPTION. In its higher manifestations is divine love, mercy, compassion and grace of God; on the social level it is the people, or public opinion, on the individual — the inner life, especially of emotional States and affects. Black teacher here — the Great Harlot Fakery, the second person Gagtungr. The main temptations — selfish distortion of reality (especially a lie), various low meditation (including alcohol and drug trances) and strong emotional States.

The third Main egregor (Shiva is God the destroyer of the world, God the Holy Spirit, the planet Uranus) is the key word ACTION. In the higher manifestations of this is the Finger of God, a miracle, i.e. any direct intervention of God in earthly Affairs. On the social level is the power of the Executive, individual practical activities. Black Teacher — Ucarp, Great essestial demonic plan (in other words, the Builder of intrigues) is the third hypostasis Gagtungr. The main temptation is the Third of the egregore is a foolish activity, vigorous action with your eyes closed (though often with the best intentions), bearing in fact, the chaos and destruction, creating a new karmic knots, thickening and darkening world.

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Re: Egregores

Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Thu Apr 14, 2016 19:04

мимоходом wrote:a Physical manifestation of the egregore is sex, power and money. Sex all clear
Egregor trade for example, where is the sex? Here's the money equivalent of time and energy spent by the organizer of the "store" author's "works ",the buyer who spending their time and energy to purchase. You can certainly marketing and its techniques to correlate to power indirectly, ie power over the minds of people for promotion.
мимоходом wrote:to Remove these three incentive - and the egregore is nothing left )) And what's left? Well, first you need to remove the excess, and then look at the remaining.
If you remove the sex , "out", not only all mankind )),)but all living things. This is the Egregore of reproduction of all life on earth. In passing, you are against all life on earth))???

Power. To remove the power-pike,a Swan,a cancer-like in the fable of Krylov))) the Hierarchy has not been canceled!! Or would you say that their right in their family and own your Power? Well, it was before the Older kind of Power he had. To remove power each will command attempt not to comply with the order. People in fact it is not enough samoorganizowaniu until the stick will not take, will not rise , if not desired. Examples are warm countries. Climb the tree for a banana , the most industrious. But lazy , and from being the smartest, I will send another stupid and will long from bottom to Bang on the trunk , and suddenly fall to eat))) Even Lazy engine to power .)) And Power could be a big Laziness, not because it does nothing, and less himself, more shifts and on other business and responsibility. Cleverly it is designed. If the king is ruled by one person, his responsibility. although here the boyars and merchants of the neighborhood, and Holiness to polandball climbed, even more than the king himself))) Well, on the one hand and the responsibility of all of NV. This is just an older kind of took responsibility for keeping order in the Family.

And Money !!!!!!!Well, who of us now living in a technological world, can boast that he and the reader and the Reaper and the dude igrets, Tcaci, cook, engineer, Builder, confectioner, cobbler???? All in one...ie in one face))) will Pull? Time will learn all this in life , is not enough. And talent is not all it can do enough. Although, there probably is not a talent, and training time spent on detainee result in one area only, and even become a super master in their field.
No wonder that the early family recipe steel cake or kept with only the family and not passed on to others. But how skillfully it was done. Because spent their time and energy on something that you know how to do = spending money on what you want ,but do not know )))

Result. No sex-ALL died out!!!))) No power if she stood prvim paragraph , and sex would be))) it would be a lot , but the chaos))) If you remove money, each in sweat from morning to evening and I made myself what makes the car , machine, and someone else.
Otherwise it would be necessary in the years ahead to paint the action plans: when the boots already time to sew , when the shirt , and when to barrel along, and so many things to do along the way, it would be necessary.

Well photostamil power -to remove the sex and money? Why then is the power?)))
Remove the money , to leave power and sex)))))))))))))))))))))
Remove remove the sex , leave the power and money....and who is there then to leave it and the power and money? Well nobody will remain.
Unless you start packouts or amoebic reproduce(sex type, but in a different manifestation)
Oh, he wrote))
But the Word will not go away and shifted is not moved. The egregore is the Power over the "flock" And the energy of sex and money -Breakfast-lunch-dinner , and sometimes a night eating at bedtime))
And here's to more of the energy stood out and came up with the Kama Sutra and marketers that every time a new product offer, and the old saying isn't cool)))
And all this is feeding the Egregore, no money-troubles-emotion -those you food Egregors . There is money-uraaaaa, emotion Todai. There are sex -RAH ---------the emotion , the energy Todai.
I always question to myself what would happen if you remove the cold and hunger, not to eat and freeze???
And nothing )))smell the flowers in the meadow , swim in the sea ,the river.......and that's when 2 weeks of this holiday vacation , it is something I want to work, and are tired of sea-tumbled and mountains to wander all tired. No goals , no aspirations....And here Aggregor and gives a purpose, a desire, not a whip, so the carrot , under a different sauce, and that you , well, Oh how we need urgently another new super powerful phone, the car ....
The power of whom ? Sellers ? Or who this egregore in the Bud runs and licks cream???))))<

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Re: Egregores

Post by Ольга Лагуза » Thu Apr 14, 2016 19:13

ЛИЛИЯ-Р wrote:Last trade for example, where is the sex?
Prostitution. IMHO, the point of intersection of the egregors, they must all have the relationship. What do you think about this?

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Re: Egregores

Post by мимоходом » Thu Apr 14, 2016 19:37

I'll try. Take for example egregor of Love
it's not an example, but a pure abstraction. It can be an example of life? Here here considered egregors of religions or sects. A real example is? Let the egregor of love - what's his real manifestation, give examples

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Re: Egregores

Post by мимоходом » Thu Apr 14, 2016 19:39

Last trade for example, where is the sex?
You do not understand. When any initiative or idea has motivated associated with power, money or sex - it's not sincere, and artificial. Example - development of magical things ))) Background - greed. The egregore of money, or rather greed.

What is the egregore of the trade don't understand. In General see that what I write is read as something quite different from what I wrote. Understand the egregore kettle or egregor ATM does not exist. Based on the definition of mental condensate, we can talk about the word, not emotion. Greed, deceit, lust, pride, ambition, gluttony, vanity and so on - all this is described. And people petua it, blaming it on external "enemies" - egregors. Supposedly, they are to blame. Religion especially vinovata all, and not their own state.

Observing that the egregores exist (as something with a different meaning than "the club") - no. But observations of the emotions and passions of the people, it is...

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Re: Egregores

Post by Ольга Лагуза » Thu Apr 14, 2016 19:54

мимоходом wrote:it's not an example, but a pure abstraction. It can be an example of life? Here here considered egregors of religions or sects. A real example is? Let the egregor of love - what's his real manifestation, give examples
Sects that You cited as an example, this kind of test is obtained.
What is abstraction?
Ольга Лагуза wrote:I'll try. Take for example egregor of Love, again, is so marked, in fact it can be Eros, son of Zeus, i.e. the Archetype, not about that right now. For ease of understanding we can take the triangle the top of which there Will be Love in the highest degree of understanding, to God, to Motherland, to Nature, to everything, most importantly, without ego, desire to enslave and other lower selfish kinds of love, which also belong to this egregore but are on the levels below. To this egregore we include sex of course, and one that is committed to reproduction, and that for those and perverted sex will also be relevant to this egregore but all this will have its own tier and lower down, the harder and less less spiritually. To take sexual energy and chakra when she is in Muladhara chakra, will be one effect, when it is in other Manipur, anahata in it will love, in AGANA wisdom, etc. tantric followers practiced the sublimation of the higher energy centers, chakras, to siddhi.
If You clean devoid of selfishness, love of people, to God, to nature, You at the top of this egregore, if full of lusts, whims, desires, sexual perversion, love replaces the desire to enslave the partner, respectively, then the person is at the foot of the ascent to sublime love. The best kind of example, the details of perverted sex, or the details of Bhakti Yoga. No abstraction here, no abstraction is for our own egregor, which is natural.<

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Re: Egregores

Post by мимоходом » Thu Apr 14, 2016 19:58

and why introduce the additional term "egregore" in relation to love or resentment or selfishness? Do you love egregor? Or offended egregore? Or is it the egregore makes you act selfishly?

Where is the area of your responsibility? We are not to blame, it's all egregors? )))

If for example, I like collecting stamps - what is wrong with the egregore. Just like and all. And some like nail Polish to cover - also egregor? Directly causes varnish to paint? )))

But some people like to go to Church. And someone Hiking. Right behind them egregor feet moves? Or the people themselves want?

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Re: Egregores

Post by Ольга Лагуза » Thu Apr 14, 2016 21:26

мимоходом wrote:and why introduce the additional term "egregore"
Ah, so You are just against the term, so I was not introduced, it is, and the theme for that would be closer to its understanding.
мимоходом wrote:Do you love egregor? Or offended egregore? Or is it the egregore makes you act selfishly?
It's not the right question to ask. Love or hate us, and here, depending on the first or second, what we tend to force our perception of the world, we are at varying stages of the egregore, as well as one or another egregor.
Yes, to some extent, selfishness causes a person to be selfish, disgusting pig, banditry, bandit, etc. are ALL ADDICTIVE, ONCE you TRY.
мимоходом wrote:where is the area of your responsibility? We are not to blame, it's all egregors? )))
Somewhere You have suffered....
мимоходом wrote:If for example, I like collecting stamps - what is wrong with the egregore.
It's a hobby, and on the planet not one person collects stamps, and some of their releases, people are waiting there for some anniversary or something runs there, etc., therefore there are thoughts of desire for this reason a group of people, that is, they share a common goal, and everything is an excuse for the egregore.
мимоходом wrote: some people actually like the nail varnish to cover too egregor? Directly causes varnish to paint? )))
It's a whole industry build-up, correction, coating, salons, definitely there is a connection.
мимоходом wrote:But some people like to go to Church. And someone Hiking. Right behind them egregor feet moves? Or the people themselves want?


Every person in their lifetime is associated with many egregors, including high. However, the higher the egregore, the more difficult direct link with it and so it is often high egregors anchoring use of the services is lower, so that people can hear high news quite clearly, but, unfortunately, not always can correctly estimate, so (naturally) attributed its origin to intermediate egregore, though, and probably will feel some inconsistency in the level of vibration received message with the usual staging of the egregore.
For example, a message his wife that she is gone forever, of course, will be perceived by her husband as the tragic news of a family egregor, and the way it is. However, sometimes this message will sound a special note, a person can guess that after the mourning for the death of a family egregor it is waiting for a new stage of spiritual development and liberation from the many shackles of heavy (with him <this egregore> maybe not related).
In General, spiritual development and destiny of a person is determined (in General terms) his karmic egregor, which, however, rarely goes on a direct relationship with the person. This egregore is shaping the contours of life's journey, sending a different person to serve the lower egregors, each time with a specific program service. When this program is executed, or not executed, but the time allotted for its implementation, over, the person gets paid for this program, respectively, offset or fail, and karmic aggregor puts it in the following egregore.
This is the General picture, which is complicated by the fact that in every period of his life, the person is not alone, but always several middle-and low egregors (of course, mostly they are the karmic egregore), and needs to build a relationship with them, based on specific conditions of its existence in them. While karmic egregor rarely helps a person in concrete situations and elections, relying mainly on his initiative and understanding of local conditions. And though sometimes, in critical situations, it still turns on and clearly translates their will on the person, however, it should be possible to study in detail the specific circumstances that put its fate, and learn to behave in the most appropriate manner, by a minimum number of energy vortices, failures and karmic knots. To do this, not only subtly to learn the ethics and requirements of each of the egregore, which the man serves, but to become a true diplomat, as the requirements of his word, often apparently incompatible. Try to acquaint the reader with such diplomacy, or a simple introduction to this subject and this Chapter.
The connection of man to the egregore is a shift of the assemblage point to the appropriate this egregore area. In other words, each egregore corresponds to some set of provisions of the assemblage point, and if it is in one of these positions, the person perceives his relationship with the egregore, in particular, its impact on themselves. Meaningful, such position of the assemblage point can be described as the state of the service corresponding egregor, or the state when a person looks at the world through the eyes of this egregor.
It is important to understand that the position of the assemblage point is controlled by the human mind, his subconscious and, generally speaking, all the thought forms with which the person currently is associated, therefore, when attempts are made conscious volitional control of movement of the assemblage point there are various difficulties, failures, and falling not in those areas where people would like to put her.
So, caring for a young woman, the person may suddenly start looking at it through the eyes of his wife, and his ardor greatly diminished — is dangerous to the family egregor last minute moved to the impassioned gentleman's assemblage point to a more sober area. If a young person is not particularly interested, she'll leave everything as is, and the contact is likely to end; if it there is some important task, she noticed a cooling, try to move the assemblage point Chevalier back, she will have (at least at a distance from the family, but for the subtle world distance tight not so essential) to join battle with a family egregor my escort, and if it is won, then the family egregor will appear a hole, but the young woman shall take, along with the return to the adoration a part of the karma family egregor its fan.
The second observation is that usually the shift of the assemblage point quite noticeable switching way of perceiving the world, and people don't notice it because they are not used to track things without giving them much importance, although in reality, as the author hopes to continue to show, this is the most important task of conscious attention, and the person who is constantly in his peripheral vision, watching in the area of what the egregore is now his assemblage point, ie egregor which he now serves and whose eyes he looks at the world this person very quickly begins to understand what the picture of the subtle world around it, what processes there are and how they materialists in the dense plan. At a high level, this means gifts of clairvoyance and prophecy, on average — just a lot more meaningful and cultural behaviour on all plans.
So, by magic, in my volition, my assemblage point came to the area some of the egregore. That means I'm "on the wire", or, as the occultists, to (information-energy) channel. This channel can conduct energy and information from one person to the egregore and the egregore to person, and these two channel States is very important not to confuse.
In other words, we can say that the entire area of the assemblage point positions corresponding to the egregore, is divided into two subfields: the first includes the position of the assemblage point corresponding to the flow of the egregore to man, the second thread from the egregore. Generally speaking, there is a third subarea, the position of the assemblage point which corresponds to the simultaneous for channel information and energy in both directions, but for the average person it is difficult, and if you need two-way communication, the assemblage point jumping of the first region in the second and back.
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Re: Egregores

Post by Ольга Лагуза » Fri Apr 15, 2016 7:36

мимоходом wrote:Do you love egregor? Or offended egregore? Or is it the egregore makes you act selfishly?

Where is the area of your responsibility?
You are right, you can see from this side. For us is really doing a lot of things. Man does not control virtually anything, it even does not solve, and could, but, apparently, it is the prospect of the distant future. Know for example how the person "sees"? Or to take a person with impaired musculoskeletal system, he will not be able to tell myself to get up and go, to say what you can, but the action to do not, because it is not from him, it depends. We do not control not the body and nothing more.

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Re: Egregores

Post by мимоходом » Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:15

Here, in the next topic the author had already successfully uses manipulation bi Finds new friends on the principle of similarity of the zodiac, is looking for supporters to attack for example the same fanatical author of the other topic or this nasopalatine me bc

How many hundreds of times watching this scenario :lol: It is about the stereotyped and automatic, just in Temko about egregores, where are you refused to take responsibility for what you think, feel, want, saying that it is the egregore of all controls. Actually the way it is, you're absolutely right. Otherwise, where these well-worn patterns, through which Wade almost everyone without exception

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Re: Egregores

Post by Ольга Лагуза » Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:50

мимоходом wrote:together with them to attack for example the same fanatical author of the other topic or this nasopalatine me
Who are You, what would You attack?
мимоходом wrote:Here, in the next topic the author had already successfully uses manipulation bi Finds new friends on the principle of similarity of the zodiac

I am studying and astrology in particular, are also interesting to me to observe people, and you have to clarify.
мимоходом wrote:How many hundreds of times watching this scenario :lol: It is about the stereotyped and automatic, just in Temko about egregores, where are you refused to take responsibility for what you think, feel, want, saying that it is the egregore of all controls. Actually the way it is, you're absolutely right. Otherwise, where these well-worn patterns, through which Wade almost everyone without exception


You don't stay on the same scenario, and it was only him and have to watch all more or less conscious life :lol:

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Re: Egregores

Post by Ольга Лагуза » Sat Apr 16, 2016 11:45

мимоходом wrote:Here, in the next topic the author had already successfully uses manipulation bi Finds new friends on the principle of similarity of the zodiac, is looking for supporters to attack for example the same fanatical author of the other topic or this nasopalatine me bc

How many hundreds of times watching this scenario :lol: It is about the stereotyped and automatic, just in Temko about egregores, where are you refused to take responsibility for what you think, feel, want, saying that it is the egregore of all controls. Actually the way it is, you're absolutely right. Otherwise, where these well-worn patterns, through which Wade almost everyone without exception
This is Your interpretation of events. I have my own version, and I will announce it, so be it. Your dissatisfaction happened sooner than it may seem at first glance. Namely, in one of those areas where you appealed to the outside ignoring the inside. And about the manipulation You are talking is not casual, because it was her party than uncomfortable. You have experienced the internal pressure, but since this process was not quite understood You, he found his outlet in the form of Your behavior, and You have shown yourself completely. And now You don't want to take a right attitude to the situation, started the morning with the same notes, and trying to blame the cross on others. Yes, the man You mentioned, he has immunity, that is manipulation and hypnosis is not effective, that person may allow the manipulation of very close people, and that within its consent. And this is not manipulation, it's "shakhmaty"

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Re: Egregores

Post by Артфан » Sat Apr 16, 2016 14:22

мимоходом wrote: the next topic the author had already successfully uses manipulation Finds new friends on the principle of similarity of the zodiac, is looking for supporters to attack for example the same fanatical author of the other topic or this nasopalatine me
Five years read the Bold, with the year You read. Both read quite fascinating. It is a pity that cooperation has not taken place... Moved into the exchange of blows. And the theme of the Creator and the Big Bang is just gorgeous...

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Re: Egregores

Post by мимоходом » Sat Apr 16, 2016 16:35

And now You don't want to properly treat the situation
And the right attitude to the situation is to do as you like? Assent, admire )))

And if not assented - then incorrectly reacted to the situation?

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Re: Egregores

Post by Ольга Лагуза » Sat Apr 16, 2016 17:15

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