Yes ))) In fact, scientists also want to say "I don't know what it was, but let's suppose that was so...". Because scientists are the same ones looking for the truth people like us.So? I correctly formulated?
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Wrong!Ольга Лагуза wrote:Alexander, so You still for the explosion, and the absence of a Creator? Or I not correctly understood You.
I have not yet made conclusions. I talk to readers, as an examiner I Igor. Thus, participants see the entire chain. Not bare the insights and all the logic. And Igor with his meticulousness does not allow you to fantasize and engage in meaningless and empty jungle.
We are in the beginning.
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At the beginning of the activity period, says the secret Doctrine, because of obedience to eternal and immutable law, is the spread of this divine Essence from outside inside and from inside to outside; and the phenomenal or visible world is the end result of a long chain of cosmic forces consistently Pref-duced in the movement. Also, when the return to the passive state, there is a reduction of God, governmental entity, and the previous creation is gradually and consistently dissolves. Visible World razloga is, its materials are dispersed, and the single "Darkness", once again alone, lies over the face of the "Abyss". Driven meta-odds of the secret books, clearly carries this idea: "the Exhalation 34] "Unknowable Essence" Roda-em world, and inhalation causes it to disappear. This process continues forever, and our universe is just one of an infinite series, having neither beginning nor end." .
And what about for example the numbers regarding the creation of the world in the process of the Big Bang? The numbers are in the base form, they direct the sound. Number lies at the root of manifestation of the Universe, its harmonic proportion among the first direct differentiation of homogeneous substance into heterogeneous elements.
And what about for example the numbers regarding the creation of the world in the process of the Big Bang? The numbers are in the base form, they direct the sound. Number lies at the root of manifestation of the Universe, its harmonic proportion among the first direct differentiation of homogeneous substance into heterogeneous elements.
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Well. And I'm who?Смелый wrote:We are at the beginning.
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Bold - author, I'm probably acting science Advisor, and you will be the expert on Blavatsky and theosophy ))Well. And I'm who?
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Great! Told me someone keep this topic, in collaboration with you!мимоходом wrote:Yeah ))) In fact, scientists also want to say "I don't know what it was, but let's pretend that that was so...". Because scientists those looking for something people like us.
But now I'm starting to make assumptions. Before it was just the facts and thanks to Igor, I have not lost. Now we're going in the Subconscious and in the Unconscious and who knows where else.
Here we refer to the model name and its conventions. ALLEGED CONVENTION!Смелый wrote:Thus, it is possible to recognize that the model name of the Universe the "Big Bang" is not fully consistent with the model, is conditional and in this case, random
In fact, there is nothing accidental in this world. All natural. But that's only a different, often directly opposite to the laws. It all depends on who writes them.
What is not manifested in our world, but extremely powerful Force, organized this name: "the BIG BANG" This Power of those who govern our lives and our destinies.
What She has achieved in the end?
1) have glossed over the process of creation, having withdrawn the understanding of creation in a strange jungle.
2) Put the Creative Power in a bad way. A sort of sad sack, Demoman and spy, have done God knows what, so much so that I had someone (after all, nowhere does it say that the Creator after the explosion, everything was collected, the slightest hint) to collect and glue.
3) Made us in the subcortex and in our collective unconscious, a global idea that ANY CONSTRUCTIVE ACTION STARTS WITH DESTRUCTION! After all, according to the proposed model is. First blew, and then began to gather and create.
4) Our Subconscious, knowing that there is a law: "DESTRUCTION = CREATION"allows us, if necessary, to destroy, to blow up and kill. Thus, we have given carte Blanche for the war.
5) Led us to the path of reasoning from the understanding that "the UNIVERSE has ALWAYS EXISTED AND WILL ALWAYS EXIST!" And that is why all the arguments and theories about the creation of the Universe - are meaningless. Mind games. We've learned that we have the time. Here we are there in the Universe looking for it. As a point of reference. But in the Universe, no time. Time is on Earth.
Let's stop there.
Igor, your analysis. So, what's wrong in your understanding? Is the logic here?<
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Yes, whoever you want!Ольга Лагуза wrote:Good. And I'm who?
Here Putin has no wife! Prokhorov! Or legislators, for example. And the way elections almost on the nose.
Blogger! VIP journalist. Yes, plenty of them around, all.
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of course ))) the vector of the destructive forces directed opposite to the vector creative power. Very well written "She" with a capital letter - as it is, She with a capital letter.so, what's wrong in your understanding? Is the logic here?
The way it is, the main question is only how to perceive it. It is possible for example so: consciousness builds, she breaks, consciousness makes, it destroys, consciousness creates, it hurts... On all fronts she is guilty - the scientists are mistaken, the meaning concealed, bodies are destroyed, people are getting older, everything reversed.
But you can otherwise take It Metaphorically... like an ocean where there are waves. Consciousness is a small piece of the earth formed and it is building sand castles on the beach. All this sunshine, all-around gold, and on the shore, slowly rolling waves... Bliss and grace ))) And that the consciousness is playing in sand castles and then went to the quiet hour, and when I returned I found that the waves washed away the castle... It's not a reason to be angry, you can build a new one. It's just a sand castle of fantasies. Today it is possible to build so, and tomorrow differently. And wave all failed creations will wash away and you can try even better. Something like that...
All just my perception.
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A connoisseur is a bit much for me, but, in any case, I for theosophy, and to the theory of explosion wary.мимоходом wrote:Bold - author, I'm probably acting science Advisor, and you will be the expert on Blavatsky and theosophy ))
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Well, fine!мимоходом wrote:Quote:
So, what's wrong in your understanding? Is the logic here?
of course ))) the vector of the destructive forces directed opposite to the vector creative power. Very well written "She" with a capital letter - as it is, She with a capital letter.
Move on!
From the foregoing, we conclude. Creator, Creative Force, someone very skillfully lied. Will not even try to rehabilitate, but simply to clarify, as it looks really. I will now quote excerpts from some books. This is not written by me, but my thoughts are very in tune. The book itself I will not be called. But I've pointed her in the library club.
"Everything on earth is made from one original substance, which is the cause of all things in our world.
a Series of new shapes and creatures replaced the old, but all this kaleidoscopic diversity eventually returns to Providetwo (Matter) – a single original source of all existence.
Stocks Shapeless Providesto from which are composed all around, truly inexhaustible.
this substance is all seen by us the universe, and not only it. Even the space enclosed within the visible creatures and filling them, as well as the space that separates one thing from another, all eventually penetrated and filled with Providesthem, this formless substance, the basic building material of all things, flesh and blood of the whole sublunary world. May be thousands of worlds similar to our universe, but even then the original substance will remain inexhaustible.
Original Providesto of the universe is inherent in living, creative force through which the universe is blazing its magnificence, always surprises us with a wealth of forms and manifestations.
Formless Substance, possessing the mind has mental capacity: she thinks. She lives and strives for a better life.
Natural impulse and an essential property of life seek to prolong life. This reflects the desire of the mind to expand its horizons, the desire of consciousness to the steady expansion of its borders and its desire for a more full expression. The universe, containing a variety of forms, created by Formless Living Providesto taking one thing after another form, in order better to Express myself.
Here just stop and ask the question: "WHERE IN the above QUOTES SAYS ABOUT the EXPLOSIONS AND the POSSIBILITY to BLOW up AND KILL their own kind?"
So where's the Creator? In these above quotations me, or in the Big Bang model, allowing for war and murder?<
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the entire universe is a Great Living Organism, one great Mysterious Power, continually directed to life and wants to reveal himself more fully. Nature was created in order to move to life; she wants to prolong the life as it is.
This is again from the same book. No need for the Creator of something out there to blow up. He is under more confined.
And now back to where it all began today. And see what I can do with this to improve myself.
We with some certainty already know that everything around us is Energy. We are composed of this Energy.
We now know that this Energy - Minded! And that's why we Energoinformational Entity. But, we remembered that this Energy is constantly moving. No movement - no Energy.
But the movement is carried out, on a spiral trajectory. We feel weak, because clogged different blocks, tubes and a variety of limiting beliefs and attitudes.
Suggest some simple practices that enhance health and increase our energy Potential.
Every day drink spring or other pure, natural water. Before use, each portion of water for about a minute whisk/screw mixer or blender. The energy of the water takes the torsion, a spiral trajectory/shape.
Water slides in our guts and in our internal state, not so much her into a separate body. Swirling water, like a corkscrew, screwed all around, purifying and vitalizing all the way up to the intercellular and intracellular space.
The author of this method, Yuriy Krasnov. He also invented supertoplivo.
This is again from the same book. No need for the Creator of something out there to blow up. He is under more confined.
And now back to where it all began today. And see what I can do with this to improve myself.
We with some certainty already know that everything around us is Energy. We are composed of this Energy.
We now know that this Energy - Minded! And that's why we Energoinformational Entity. But, we remembered that this Energy is constantly moving. No movement - no Energy.
But the movement is carried out, on a spiral trajectory. We feel weak, because clogged different blocks, tubes and a variety of limiting beliefs and attitudes.
Suggest some simple practices that enhance health and increase our energy Potential.
Every day drink spring or other pure, natural water. Before use, each portion of water for about a minute whisk/screw mixer or blender. The energy of the water takes the torsion, a spiral trajectory/shape.
Water slides in our guts and in our internal state, not so much her into a separate body. Swirling water, like a corkscrew, screwed all around, purifying and vitalizing all the way up to the intercellular and intracellular space.
The author of this method, Yuriy Krasnov. He also invented supertoplivo.
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Thus, there is no sense to talk about the Big explosions and so on. There Is A Primary, Creative Thinking Stuff. We consist of it. Because she's bigger and stronger than us, she thought, stronger than our thoughts, and to execute and to do we will that conceived It!
But now we understand that there is Another Force, very much interested in the fact that we didn't really know, and either not fulfilled or were fulfilled only partially, the fact that conceives the primal Force.
The second Force acts, it affects us by influencing our Consciousness, from within. So I would argue that for self-development, the best way to turn to face him.
I'm ready to suggest something having a purely practical significance, but already feel the emptiness in front of him. So, if anything, later.
But now we understand that there is Another Force, very much interested in the fact that we didn't really know, and either not fulfilled or were fulfilled only partially, the fact that conceives the primal Force.
The second Force acts, it affects us by influencing our Consciousness, from within. So I would argue that for self-development, the best way to turn to face him.
I'm ready to suggest something having a purely practical significance, but already feel the emptiness in front of him. So, if anything, later.
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I don't know! But She's mighty! Weaker than the first, but nonetheless. But what is the worst thing on Earth, its influence is very great. She is brilliantly smart. To constantly crank out such brilliant information, and not just combinations. The most brilliant of them is the one we've just discussed.мимоходом wrote:what is the second force?
We pointed out that there is a Creator, but the Creator put some kind of klutz. Making, well at least not very sophisticated and strange actions. At the same time, very cool veiled, that these actions, at least in the form attributed to him, the Creator did not commit.
Came Up With God! That's really strange person. And all the suffering sent to Him.
Announced that God is one, but made a few religions, the worshiper, the one God. Here's adherents, and began to share this non-existent, one God. Apart to tear, biting his throat to each other.
The genius of this fiction is that putting on the stage of this one God, this Power is left in the shade. It would be like there! There are issues and problems - go with them to God.
The question of what our problems are largely the result of actions in ourselves, of This Second Hand, well retouched.
A creative Force, she had only to build and build. To help us in our creative efforts. But fight she does not know. Not sharpened by these actions.
All we have inside, is solved according to the principle: "SOMEONE CALLED, AND CALLED!"
But not so easy it's done. We are masters of martial arts kind of fighting is mental. This is the highest level not just a martial art, and the personality of the fighters. They went into the game, looked at each other, stood in a fighting stance, bowed to each other and parted. One of them won.
In this battle, fought not by soldiers. Fought Personality.
Now! to WIN the SECOND, the DESTRUCTIVE POWER is the MOST STUPID OCCUPATION THAT you CAN THINK of! It's strong and alone each of us, not to win.
She is just waiting that we got in a fight with Her.
But to win It adverse actions in themselves, only calling for help yourself, the Force of the First Force Creative! But I already said that the First Force, to fight and to protect us will not. What's the point?
Remember the aforementioned Eastern masters of martial arts. They are not fighting physically, but fighting mentally. How this relates to the possibility of victory in ourselves, the Second Power through the Power First? Yes all is very simple! Later today I will continue this way.
Well, it's unlikely. Our Consciousness is very weak. Weathervane. Rushing here and there.мимоходом wrote:and the third is our consciousness?
To become a Personality, like the aforementioned masters of martial arts. They are not rushing, confident, each of them knows that he is strong and BEHIND POWER!Смелый wrote:So I would argue that for self-development, the best way to turn to face him.
I have a good friend. He's a champion whether Kung Fu, or karate, even the Soviet Union. To him, here in Russia, attended by the Abbot of the Shao-Lin. Look at his fights.
So, once we discussed with him as he prepares to fight. He said, the next unbelievable thing.
I said, getting ready to focus all by himself. Not Consciousness, namely one's entire Being. Then comes some point, not informed me, I turn around and see behind the Dragon. The dragon bared, mouth red, eyes burning, and claws, eagerly goes through the lime trees and has a tail on the floor. Well, are you ready? Ask. In response, the Dragon just nods.
Well, I'm ready! Then without options. Victory for us. ALWAYS!
Now he is no longer fighting. Trains between.
To grow a Dragon - a Creative Force, is the only Way.
can'T WIN the STRENGTH of the SECOND (It is always in us will be present and waiting in the wings/moment), AND to INCREASE the STRENGTH of the FIRST!
And then, as the old weights, swinging a counterweight against each other. With plates and weights. Side weights heavier, and more substantial.
Thus, more than 50% of our Consciousness captures a Destructive Force - It controls us.
More than 50% of our Consciousness holds the Creative Force - we live and act in life, in line with the Creator. Between these Forces are not fighting. In us on the inside, too. The struggle is FOR OUR MINDS! FOR OUR SOULS!
People will be able to increase the Strength of the Creative, will continue to constantly focus and act in line with the Creator - that he is already a Person.
How? A difficult question. But the little answers I have.<
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Probably correct to say about the person not the essence, and Being. Quickly you concocted, the brain is not even warmed up, what's the point?Смелый wrote:we Energy-Essence
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Here comes the isolation, what a chain. One force, second force, third ..... If to speak from the point of view of force, this Force is Consciousness. That's what You call strength, in fact the quality of these three qualities is everything from mineral to man, the three gunas are everywhere. Tamas - inertia, Rajas movement, Sattva harmony.Смелый wrote: Thus, participants see the entire chain.
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This is the moment then the recall! And I, in this example, will tell you what Your problems are. Okay?Ольга Лагуза wrote:Here is the isolation, what a chain.
You somewhere read, or invented themselves? What name? These names You come up with or someone took it?Ольга Лагуза wrote:If talking from the point of view of force, this Force is Consciousness. That's what You call strength, in fact the quality of these three qualities is everything from mineral to man, the three gunas are everywhere. Tamas - inertia, Rajas movement, Sattva harmony.
Themselves invented - You honor and praise! Took from someone, and then my ideas stick in other people's frames?
You are at the right place!
I will say more! I really like the saying: "EVERY CRICKET stick to HIS LAST!"
For me, there is no authority. The great authority for me - it was me! It I so, for the future!

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It is Your concern. Rather, Your brain. But my brain thinks otherwise!Ольга Лагуза wrote:Probably correct to say about the person not the essence, and Being.
I wrote here in the forum quickly. And I thought for a long time. Years. Note, thought,Ольга Лагуза wrote:Quickly you concocted, the brain is not even warmed up,

and not cooked.

The meaning of that text, which I have set out above. But everyone understands everything differently. So far as his capacity.Ольга Лагуза wrote:what's the point?

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Thank you. And their problems can you tell? And that "other people's" problems everywhere, its usually not visible.Смелый wrote:And I in this example, will tell you what Your problems are. Okay?
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The last thing I would like to invent something, on the contrary, I want to know what is. The system of Evil, among other things, works on the principle of distorting the essence of it, leaving the usual form, existing, replacing the contents.Смелый wrote:this is where You read, or invented themselves? What name? These names You come up with or someone took it?
Themselves invented - You honor and praise! Took from someone, and then my ideas stick in other people's frames?
You are at the right place!
You relied on the sources cited contents, the big Bang theory is also not Yours, you have to understand. So what's the charge to my address? We have their/others ' Knowledge, there are pioneers, people who are able to understand, describe and prove available. You said that You are in tune with something, but I tune it, and here the gallery of images that You posted???
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When people think independently, it is commendable, moreover, if he thinks correctly, he can always find a reflection of the essence of their thoughts in the already existing esoteric literature. The thinker is first and foremost a philosopher, the philosopher does not have to be a researcher, but the researcher must be a philosopher.
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Ольга Лагуза wrote:the System of Evil, among other things, works on the principle of distorting the essence
Ольга Лагуза wrote:Oh, when people think independently, it is commendable, moreover, if he thinks correctly, he can always find a reflection of the essence of their thoughts in the already existing esoteric literature.

