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Re: Red terror

Post by Тяфа » Thu Mar 01, 2012 19:59

Barely finished reading the article at the first link, I'm afraid to sleep bad... :shock:

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Re: Red terror

Post by Петр Петрович » Thu Mar 01, 2012 20:49

"Twice Jew of the Soviet Union" Solzhenitsyn interesting figures in his "two Hundred years together", anyone who actually... well, in the beginning he promised to conduct a study to 2000 year, but delicately stopped in 1994. Well he wrote on his deathbed, and so it has survived even the late 90's early 2000s :?

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Re: Red terror

Post by Сканер » Thu Mar 01, 2012 21:59

Still difficult to bring myself agreeing with you...... does not work, tried, but not obtained.

In these days of retreat, humiliation of the nation, when in poverty and hunger, the Russian people when the Russian Government considered the Russian national interests(I wonder hopping in the Russian government), what can we say about the rest of the world, us, Russian, more important than ever, need to raise our children Russian nationalists(to say that I already called the Russian antisemitsm), passionately and devotedly love their nation, consciously proud of his nation, who understand that not only the holidays and winning ways of the nation, but the ordeal, as it is now, which can be overcome only relying on the power and strength of the national spirit. But in order to love their nation, justifiably proud of it, to empathize with its long thorny path, the path of brilliant victories and bitter defeats, - for this you need to know your nation.

Was telling me today that stealing is a Russian trait to drink vodka Russian trait, but I can say one thing, Yes you will go to hell with that. For what Russian does not love this spirit, and this can not be broken......Will remain unconvinced....... About the genocide of the RUSSIAN PEOPLE why it is little to say.

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Re: Red terror

Post by Андрей Патрушев » Thu Mar 01, 2012 22:39

Nationalism and patriotism are two different things. Nationalist praises his nation, treating others contemptuously, and the patriot is proud of his homeland and seeks to work for the good...

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Re: Red terror

Post by Логик » Thu Mar 01, 2012 22:46

Андрей Патрушев wrote:Nationalist praises his nation, treating others contemptuously,
Your true. It's you against Nazism confused. A nationalist loves his nation, the Nazi Presne no other except their own.
Андрей Патрушев wrote:patriot is proud of his homeland
Nationalism does not exclude patriotism.

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Re: Red terror

Post by Сканер » Thu Mar 01, 2012 23:50

Me today at work called the cosmopolitan, in principle I agree, but not when pressed my race, my people and my earth, not even hiding behind any bright ideas for a better tomorrow. And again I repeat we all (races) fly in the tar-Tarara, and there will not be vaigasi will be current survivors.

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Re: Red terror

Post by Шалтай Балтай » Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:50

there's an old saying: "Keep your feet warm, stomach in hunger, and your head in the cold".
Keep your head in the cold doesn't mean you need in winter without a hat walk, it means don't go on about the emotions. To be a "hot guy". Ie you should always remain calm and sober, keep the mind in balance.
Those people who are "ready teeth down his throat to grab", it does not matter they are right or not, has lost the coldness of reason. No matter what stories you tell, only your reaction to them. If you have lost the mind control, got carried away, got stuck, fell ASLEEP, then you were under the influence, i.e., become the victim of someone's manipulation.
Understand, those people -- or entities that are manipulated live by the manipulation of the consciousness of other people they have NO values, NO bindings. They will take advantage of anything just to possess the mind of others. Whether it is nationalism, capitalism, (anti)Semitism, is absolutely still.
political events are not those internal causes that are attributed to them. The political sphere is woven from the myths. This is the web, which fall into unsuspecting flies get their information from television and Newspapers, controlled by the worldwide international organized Jewry.
a little about the Jews:
after finishing this book, I know that you will attempt to juggle the statement that, say, I indicted all Jews. No, and I repeat, I am not indicting all Jews. How can I press charges against the Jew, who, say, was born in 1970 and studied in an ordinary Soviet school, if today he did not become a hard-core Zionist. I indicted only those Jews who directly or indirectly work to the benefit of, or contribute to the black world plans of organized Jewry, which is hard to build global concentration camp called greater Israel, and struggling pressurizes the Jewish world revolution. I once again remind you the important quote Disraeli – Lord Beaconsfield, which I cited in the course of the book.
this is a quote from Stoleshnikov.

From myself I will add. You forget one fact, which I am trying to convey in the next branch (Wave genetics). The Jews did not THEMSELVES have decided that they are God's chosen people. It is SAID to THEM. Ie it WAS NOT THEIR CHOICE. The choice THEY have MADE. Definitely, use them.

That means the knowledge that is now revealed, has NOT forgotten about them. They lay in the wings. And began to raise them just now.
SOMEONE is VERY NECESSARY.

The more ardor you approach the assessment of this knowledge, the closer THAT SOMEONE towards their goals.<

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Re: Red terror

Post by Андрей Патрушев » Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:00

Humpty Baltay
Here and I about the same. Somewhere "saber-toothed mole" somewhere to dig, and as that wrapped, so cutting start living innocent people, sparing neither children nor women nor the elderly...
Let Your wild imagination about my values and reason will lead You to something constructive... :wink:

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Re: Red terror

Post by Шалтай Балтай » Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:16

Андрей Патрушев wrote:Let Your wild imagination about my values and reason will lead You to something constructive...
You see, we are already fighting. Why own but?
Or Your intention boil down to the fact that would call this provocative topic?
What are the efforts? You can just cover up.......
I look at it all and realize that these guys who mess brewed, likely to have them.... happens.....

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Re: Red terror

Post by Андрей Патрушев » Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:25

Humpty Baltay
The attempt is not counted. :?

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Re: Red terror

Post by Андрей Патрушев » Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:42

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In fact, if you believe Wikipedia, :) nationalism encompasses all the manifestations and currents, based on the priority of the nation, including Nazism. :?

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:47

And then there's Collegiate dictionary:
nationalism 1. Ideology, politics and socio-psychological installation, based on national exclusiveness and national superiority, interpretation of the nation as a higher form of society. The construction of the selfishness of any nation in the rank of state policy; chauvinism.
2. A protective reflex and a powerful national instinct of self-preservation at the grassroots level, when the nation is in danger (in the beginning of XX century in the USSR and the beginning of XXI century in Russia) . The love for their nation and caring for her on an individual level.

nationalism-but only Ideology and politics, propagated the idea of exclusivity and privilege of one nation against the other that leads to ethnic alienation or confrontation. Nationalism is disgusting that destroys the beauty of life, and this beauty, in fact, is nationality (Prishvin) . Synonyms: chauvinism Related words: nationalist , nationalist (nationalist Congress) , ethnocentric (nationalistic speech) Etymology: From French nationalisme ‘nationalism’. Encyclopedic review: Nationalism resists the penetration of other peoples on its territory in any form. Its characteristic feature is the lack of interest in material culture and the conviction that material culture only by the power of spirit and the development of spiritual culture , it is possible to overcome any difficulties in social development , including class contradictions. Nationalism in its extreme forms of political practice can not only preach our culture , but to impose it by force on other peoples , often by conquest. In multinational Federal States, the nationalism of the dominant nation , vzaimopronikayut with the nationalism of a small nation , creates a series of unsolvable problems.

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Post by Сканер » Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:58

Шалтай Балтай wrote:Understand those people -- or entities that are manipulated live by the manipulation of the consciousness of other people they have NO values, NO bindings. They will take advantage of anything just to possess the mind of others. Whether it is nationalism, capitalism, (anti)Semitism, is absolutely still.
All for it, found it within themselves and within many, but many consider it part of himself, but in vain.......
Шалтай Балтай wrote:From myself I will add. You forget one fact, which I am trying to convey in the next branch (Wave genetics). The Jews did not THEMSELVES have decided that they are God's chosen people. It is SAID to THEM. Ie it WAS NOT THEIR CHOICE. The choice THEY have MADE. Definitely, use them.That means the knowledge that is now revealed, has NOT forgotten about them. They lay in the wings. And began to raise them just now.SOMEONE is VERY NECESSARY.
Again, all for it......The chaos that is happening in the world is quite orderly, however if not look 100 years old, and live in tysyacheletii. There is an ongoing war against humanity, not an individual race. Degradation of humanity is called progress, current it nichrome not good, is the destruction of the genotype.
Андрей Патрушев wrote:Here and I about the same. Somewhere "saber-toothed mole" somewhere to dig, and as that wrapped, so cutting start living innocent people, sparing neither children nor women nor the elderly...
So just begins with them already in progress, in the schools, sell drugs, guzzle beer, and tonics are normally or became, I in 12 years was offered heroin and that was ' 94. What is happening tin.. And what this does, the government indulges, the destruction continues........so cutting start living innocent people, sparing neither children nor women nor the elderly this is already happening, but not explicitly......<

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:00

Андрей Патрушев wrote:And then there's Collegiate dictionary:
and who was this dictionary, let's read the names......

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Post by Сканер » Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:17

Андрей Патрушев wrote:And then there's the Encyclopedic dictionary:nationalism 1. Ideology, politics and socio-psychological installation, based on national exclusiveness and national superiority, interpretation of the nation as a higher form of society. The construction of the selfishness of any nation in the rank of state policy; chauvinism. 2. A protective reflex and a powerful national instinct of self-preservation at the grassroots level, when the nation is in danger (in the beginning of XX century in the USSR and the beginning of XXI century in Russia) . The love for their nation and caring for her on an individual level. nationalism-but only Ideology and politics, propagated the idea of exclusivity and privilege of one nation against the other that leads to ethnic alienation or confrontation. Nationalism is disgusting that destroys the beauty of life, and this beauty, in fact, is nationality (Prishvin) . Synonyms: chauvinism Related words: nationalist , nationalist (nationalist Congress) , ethnocentric (nationalistic speech) Etymology: From French nationalisme ‘nationalism’. Encyclopedic review: Nationalism resists the penetration of other peoples on its territory in any form. its Characteristic feature is the lack of interest in material culture and the conviction that material culture only by the power of spirit and the development of spiritual culture may overcome any difficulties in social development , including class contradictions. Nationalism in its extreme forms of political practice can not only preach our culture , but to impose it by force on other peoples , often by conquest. In multinational Federal States, the nationalism of the dominant nation , vzaimopronikayut with the nationalism of a small nation , creates a series of unsolvable problems.
What's wrong with that highlighted text... Right about me..

Sorry Andrew, with all due respect to you, but for some reason this applies to the Russian and only Russian. Speaking about respect for others, we forget about ourselves, others, must be respected, and himself shit without a spoon.. Never understood this position.. or Rather understand, but what is not to like. My principle is simple: to relate to others as I would want that treated you, but a little different Treat others as they treat you....And I, my elderly relatives, plemyannikov, relatives of shit interfere just because we are Russian.... And again tell me the Russian rulers since 1910... So who and what I love and be proud of unless its a race and its government which is not and also I obvinyayut of bias, and why are other races brought up this nationalism, why they can. When children of non-Russian neighbors have said, we will kill you, is this normal?

But again, it's the people and the enemies of those who have pits, but not those that differ by skin color, I have a nephew of Metis and my sister's husband is a good man, only he understands it......And why you no... I Think if we (Russian) will break on this gonna stop.......Naive....

Here's another question, why 2+2=4, not three or five, and what is 5 or 2, the description of which is not customized to the needs.........<

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Re: Red terror

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Hmm, guys... For all are evil Anunnaki, to inspire the Jews God's chosen people, to deprive earthlings of gold to build their space ships. They feed on our energy, lower vibrations which for them are the ""delicious," so they don't give us to develop spiritually by integrating the brain need for their program. We are all under the hood, we are not free, we're all gonna die! :evil:


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Andrei Patrushev To believe Wikipedia is not always possible.
Шалтай Балтай wrote:and who have compiled this dictionary, let's read the names......
I agree. The compilers of the dictionary and their motivation is of great importance.
WHAT IS NATIONALISM?


Today in the mind of the average consumer of information is mixed up a lot, including the meaning of many important concepts, which allows to navigate among the most urgent problems of the past and present. One of these concepts is the word "nationalism". I think there are few words, which last time would have been spewed so many lies, hatred and contempt. It mixed not only with mud but also with the words "fascism", "chauvinism", "racism". The result is confusion in the minds of people formed a purely negative stance on this word. The installation of formalized Russian (formerly Soviet) dictionaries, which were called nationalism is bourgeois ideology, advocating national exclusiveness and hatred of other Nations.

That also includes that word? Whether so it is dangerous and negatively, as trying to convince the layman of the modern media, (many of whom claim to be "independent")? Is there an over the distortion of the meaning of the word malice to discredit clean and bright the idea of national revival of the Russian people and other indigenous peoples of Russia? To these and other questions will help to answer the quotes of writers, philosophers, leaders of Russian national movement, journalists and other relevant people.

Japanese encyclopedia

"Nationalism - universal adherence and loyalty to their nation."

Encyclopedia Britannica

"Nationalism is the loyalty and commitment to the nation and the country when the national interests above personal or group interests."

The American political dictionary, which by 1993 (stood 9 editions)

"Nationalism is identified with the social and psychological forces that have arisen under the influence of the unique cultural, historical factors, to ensure the unity, the enthusiasm among this people through the cultivation of a common sense of belonging to these values. Nationalism unites people who have common cultural, linguistic, racial, historical or geographical features or experience, and which ensures the loyalty of the political community".

"Nationalism is an expression of respect, love and devotion to self-sacrifice in the present – reverence and reverence for the past and wish prosperity, glory, greatness, power and success in the future of the nation, to people to which this person belongs".

"Nationalism is the sum of two manifestations of national feeling and national identity.

National feeling is a natural affiliation of physical and mental organization. It instinctively. It is a must. National feeling born to us, and all the other feeling: the love of parents, love of children, hunger, thirst, etc.

National identity is an act of thinking by which the person recognizes himself as a part of the whole, comes under his protection and brings itself to the defense of his native of the whole of the nation."
(Professor P. I. Kovalevsky. The psychology of the Russian nation. SPb., 1914.)

"Nationalism is a spiritual fire that is building a man to sacrifice, and the people to the spiritual prosperity. Nationalism is primarily manifested in the instinct of national self-preservation, and this instinct is a state of true and justified. Don't be ashamed of it, to extinguish or suppress it; it is necessary to understand it in the face of God, spiritually justify and ennoble its manifestations."
I. A. Ilyin (1883-1954), Russian philosopher and political scientist.

"There is no such people who would not seek his life, the assertion of national pride."
L. N. Tolstoy, the great Russian writer

"Nationalism in me so natural, that it had no internationalists me he did not knock".
Dmitri Mendeleev. "To cognition of Russia" .1906

"Nationalism (national immunity) - the spiritual consciousness of the people, divine; the national instinct of self-preservation, faith in the strength of his people; the predominance of the interests of the nation over all others (the state, parties etc.) leading to the ability of the nation to deal effectively with hostile foreign elements. Only with the triumph of nationalism the people cease to be people-a donor and effectively gets rid of parasitic elements in the state."
Handbook of the Russian people, the author Ivanov A. A.

"Nationalism is the highest phase of development of patriotism, in which prevails the understanding of key truths: the nation - primary state - is secondary. I will give both definitions, which I consider to be the best and most correct:
1) "Nationalism is the love for their nation and care for it" (i.e., not just love, but love active, active);
2) "Nationalism – the survival instinct of the people; this instinct is asleep when the nation is in no danger, but wakes up to the fatal hour of testing." The first (love and care) right in respect of the individual, the second one (the instinct) – against the masses.
Nationalism – the natural state for the national elite in the history of its nation in an hour."
A. N. Sevastyanov, the ideologist of Russian national movement, chief editor of "National Newspapers".
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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Fri Mar 02, 2012 13:03

Димас wrote:Hmm, guys... For all are evil Anunnaki, to inspire the Jews God's chosen people, to deprive earthlings of gold to build their space ships. They feed on our energy, lower vibrations which for them are the ""delicious," so they don't give us to develop spiritually by integrating the brain need for their program. We are all under the hood, we are not free, we're all gonna die! :evil:


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where such infa?

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Шалтай Балтай wrote:where such infa?
genetic memory :)

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Fri Mar 02, 2012 13:22

Димас wrote:
Шалтай Балтай wrote:where such infa?
genetic memory :)
thank you.

Your genetic memory, by any chance, maybe this stuff as a thread to explain?
http://radosvet.net/8686-nebesnaya-flot ... -2010.html

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Humpty Baltay
Maybe :) Sun PU-the reactor, requiring fuel.

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Fri Mar 02, 2012 13:45

Димас wrote:Humpty Baltay
Maybe :) Sun PU-the reactor, requiring fuel.
thank you. more moprosoft no.

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Humpty Baltay
Please, please! Please contact if th... :?

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Fri Mar 02, 2012 14:05

Logik, Humpty Baltay, Scanner
What if item 2 in the above article, from the encyclopedia to read carefully?
Maybe I'm here to humiliate Russian and cutting offer??? Or deny the need for national self-realization??? Maybe enough Jews to blame, since they themselves face is crooked?

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Андрей Патрушев wrote:maybe enough Russian to blame, since they themselves face is crooked?
why not.....

Citing the above standing arguments, I admit my lack of understanding of these issues and waited for a constructive dialogue to clarify and Supplement their knowledge according to issues. Have expressed my thoughts based on life experience and observations interested in the opinions of other participants branches and your including. Sorry, your answers are not objective (as a child, you don't understand the small yet this is not the answer) ....

Andrew sorry honestly do not want you way to offend or hook..... We just don't understand each other........Can really face is crooked(the brain). So the more to participate in the discussion of this branch will not, due to the fact that opponents are twisting my words adjusting them for best formation... Thanks again....
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