"Birds fly under my feet..."

[елей]

if I understand you correctly (I am unfortunately still not familiar with all this terminology), we are talking about consecutive hit. ie, before you deck and you draw cards one by one. and here the situation in which you get the flash (picture) with proper form, and then shuffle the deck, select a random card and get what they anticipated.
the question is whether you affect the situation, or she at you?

[рыжая]

the question is whether you affect the situation, or she at you?

And let's assume neither one nor the other, and the third.

[к-13]

the question is whether you affect the situation, or she at you?

And let's assume neither one nor the other, and the third.

Also like this one better...

[елей]

ie you assume that the us and the situation affects a third thing?
I like it but in this case, the question arises, why?
I'm inclined to believe that this mechanism is mathematically precise and there are no coincidences. if I anticipate the result of stupid cards, so maybe later will be information that really will benefit, and it's not just me?

[к-13]

if I understand you correctly (I am unfortunately still not familiar with all this terminology), we are talking about consecutive hit. ie, before you deck and you draw cards one by one. and here the situation in which you get the flash (picture) with proper form, and then shuffle the deck, select a random card and get what they anticipated.

It is possible and so. You can take a partner, even in the next room takes a card and writes a sequence, and You write his. I like to "work" with ordinary playing cards can increase the complexity criteria is the minimum complexity of "color"(1 of 2), a little bit harder "suit"(1 of 4), more difficult "alphanumeric value"(1 of 9 or 13, depending on type of deck), and finally aerobatics in the definition of "specific cards" from deck(1 of 36, 52, 54..., if you use a partial deck, standard deck, jokers, a blank card). I've always had a deck of plastic cards "Industrial One", there were moments when I could in a very short time to spread the deck face to his two piles by the color of the suit, allowing only 4-5 errors. Then I abandoned the practice when flooded side effects...

[к-13]

, ie you assume that the us and the situation affects a third thing?

Rather the situation from time to time exists independently of us. But the information flows a little ahead of the event and can start to make predictions, sometimes quite accurate...

[к-13]

I'm inclined to believe that this mechanism is mathematically precise and there are no coincidences. if I anticipate the result of stupid cards, so maybe later will be information that really will benefit, and it's not just me?

I assure You it will pass very quickly once You a couple of times to see the real pictures of the outside of the cards...

[елей]

K-13
and yet, the current situation (even in spite of ourselves), someone or something controlled and has its own specific logic. so the fact that you are able so valiantly to interact with a deck of playing cards needs to be justified. have you ever thought about why it is given to you?

[елей]

I Assure You it will pass very quickly once You a couple of times to see the real pictures of the outside of the card..

please explain why real pictures of the outside of the cards is to influence my opinion?

[к-13]

and yet, the current situation (even in spite of ourselves), someone or something controlled and has its own specific logic.

Rather something. The script of course there is, it's not karma, but something similar in fact, I like the theory about C. Earl's metaconscious(even a few personal facts to confirm its there).

so the fact that you are able so valiantly to interact with a deck of playing cards needs to be justified.

This is certainly not a fact))) With some practice and perseverance, so can anyone. But not any it reallyneed.

have you thought about why it is given to you?

Then that one time I really wanted one.

[елей]

Then that one time I really wanted one.

beautifully and convincingly

[к-13]

beautiful and convincing

And what is wrong? I worked in this direction, and very active. Have You ever for a long time had a purpose? Not some vague, like world peace, a very specific and definite. Such to which you want to strive day and night, and everything else on her background fades. I was so. And then began the picture, from which I felt really creepy. At the initial stage, you cannot see what you want, when you want. It turns out quite the opposite - at the most inopportune moments, you suddenly come to vivid images, and not that horrible, as most clearly emotional is death, for example, their own or loved ones... It's not just a number (although they sometimes emerge - mine, for example, 14 Aug 2019.) - this is the way - as if in parallel are present here and there. You kind of like the artist, must understand. Only it's not just pictures - it's feelings - pain, fear, other emotions... Maybe not as much as the media, but not much weaker. It's not just me that out of a group in which we were engaged, almost all dropped out... And the worst thing is that no specifics - just a hint, like a mockery...

[к-13]

Want, I to You, in terms of the world view of the communications engineer will write the principle?))) Can try to shift it on his picture - it's easier to start)))
Know how to apply electric current in the conductor? So, You come home in the evening and tapped on the switch. The initial momentum is distributed instantly - the speed of light it does not restrict, however a modern instrument it also does not fix, but physicists say that it exists. Then begins the work of interatomic interactions - the electron chain pushing each other and the speed of propagation of current in the conductor is limited by their inertia - they respond instantly, frankly. In our case, the role that inertia plays a time, and the electron can, with some reservations, be called the background - such as other events of the scenario. Switch is the target event in the future - it has already happened, but the bulb will light up when an avalanche of electrons to the tungsten filament(that is, the operator on the time scale). In a perfect example has to be the interaction on the one hand, and the light bulb goes two wires at a time as one pushes an excess of electrons, on the other hand the vacuum is pulling them(you can draw an analogy with the events of the past), but the essence is the same - any event in the future is the tension(the same initial impulse, which is outside of time) even now. That is what and they can count. Since man has no specific sense organ for such sensations(unless you count the brain as such), he takes it in already existing channels - visual, auditory, tactile... you Can go ahead and develop an example of a before picture showing the propagation of radio waves in the environment - there the picture is somewhat more complicated, but it is not so categorical in terms of the immutability of fate)))

[рыжая]

, ie you assume that the us and the situation affects a third thing?

Rather the situation from time to time exists independently of us. But the information flows a little ahead of the event and can start to make predictions, sometimes quite accurate...

I like the way you think.
And you not probyvala to step through the fear and continue classes? In the end, it's only fear. May consider that the cost of effort does not correspond with?

[елей]

you Can go ahead and develop an example of a before picture showing the propagation of radio waves in the environment - there the picture is somewhat more complicated, but it is not so categorical in terms of the immutability of fate)))

ie August 14, 2019 may be the usual Sunny day and in your case, to flow smoothly in the 15th? indeed, on the subtle planes the range of possibilities is wider than on the physical level, right?

[елей]

And you not probyvala to step through the fear and continue classes? In the end, it's only fear.

this man is not afraid, it is a challenge!

[к-13]

And you not probyvala to step through the fear and continue classes? In the end, it's only fear. May consider that the cost of effort does not correspond with?

Yes, as such the cost of the passage practice just the same and was not... Except that emotional... it Was fun practices and a pleasant feeling in the team when we shared the experience - it seemed as if the world will reveal to us your secrets... We of 7 people, only three remained. Or rather 3 and a half and one near Omsk(three in the group were there) somewhere chemotherapy is, how violent... Fear is also not, per se, at least in Your understanding. Very scary to live with the fact that you know something, and nothing can do about it... That's how You think, how you react on the street by a stranger, whom You try to explain that very soon(but it is unclear when) his guts smear on the asphalt of nowhere? And meditate at the same time, how to live with what you had to do something, but you didn't... Think, how would You live if quite ordinary things bought for You a completely different meaning - a trivial example - the song "Pink roses" about Svetka Sokolova - so-so hit, a dance tune with a cool "Oh-Oh-Oh...", and its most developed perception perceives as almost suicidal - a very powerful emotion for her... And myself not afraid to die, even curious at times - outside I was, and the picture of the world adjusts to the positive. Moreover, such experience TV completely discourages the desire to look, which is a plus)))

, etce August 14, 2019 may be the usual Sunny day and in your case, to flow smoothly in the 15th? indeed, on the subtle planes the range of possibilities is wider than on the physical level, right?

I believe in it))) In the end, the script is purely Advisory in nature, follow it relentlessly would have been at least bored... So I made a reservation "from time to time" while I see no opportunity to make an impact, and it is likely that then the desire will not. Vadim Zeland well with the "mirror-makers of" this moment described, at least for something it can read)))<

[елей]

K-13, I'm not "prophet" but you are very nice to me
in this regard, will take on responsibility for what was said next. you will live long, interesting lives, not least because "one time I wanted it".
it seems to me that you showed a certain date for what would you have wanted to play with the space

[рыжая]

And you not probyvala to step through the fear and continue classes? In the end, it's only fear. May consider that the cost of effort does not correspond with?

Yes, as such the cost of the passage practice just the same and was not... Except that emotional... it Was fun practices and a pleasant feeling in the team when we shared the experience - it seemed as if the world will reveal to us your secrets... We of 7 people, only three remained. Or rather 3 and a half and one near Omsk(three in the group were there) somewhere chemotherapy is, how violent... Fear is also not, per se, at least in Your understanding. Very scary to live with the fact that you know something, and nothing can do about it... That's how You think, how you react on the street by a stranger, whom You try to explain that very soon(but it is unclear when) his guts smear on the asphalt of nowhere? And meditate at the same time, how to live with what you had to do something, but you didn't... Think, how would You live if quite ordinary things bought for You a completely different meaning - a trivial example - the song "Pink roses" about Svetka Sokolova - so-so hit, a dance tune with a cool "Oh-Oh-Oh...", and its most developed perception perceives as almost suicidal - a very powerful emotion for her... And myself not afraid to die, even curious at times - outside I was, and the picture of the world adjusts to the positive. Moreover, such experience TV completely discourages the desire to look, which is a plus)))

, etce August 14, 2019 may be the usual Sunny day and in your case, to flow smoothly in the 15th? indeed, on the subtle planes the range of possibilities is wider than on the physical level, right?

I believe in it))) In the end, the script is purely Advisory in nature, follow it relentlessly would have been at least bored... So I made a reservation "from time to time" while I see no opportunity to make an impact, and it is likely that then the desire will not. Vadim Zeland well with the "mirror-makers of" this moment described, at least for something it can read)))

I'm trying to understand, You have started having some vision that scared You because You had on it control?
About the smear on the asphalt and nothing we can do. I'd reasoned. Okay, I did, at some point, I began to see as someone out there will be a bumpy ride. What would I do? I would continue to learn to see why and how someone will smear on the asphalt. Remember: Berlioz fell under the tram, because Annushka had spilled the sunflower oil ... Just learning to see at this level I would approach the person and say Hey, man, don't you in such and such a day to go there-that and there-that. But wait a minute, we forget something else. You also need to learn to see the consequences from what will You save this man or not save. In short.
K-13, you have taken the first step (it was very necessary, uh, as I understand it) you did it!!!! Super, move on and most importantly You caught the algorithm impact on himself with the result, so there is still so much work to do. Don't want to have the vision to looking at a person, really, to see the options of the future developments and all the chains? Yes, it's work, perhaps for a lifetime, so what?
p/s/ do not impose. Express a purely subjective opinion on such things. But honestly. <

[елей]

Very scary to live with the fact that you know something, and nothing can do about it... That's how You think, how you react on the street by a stranger, whom You try to explain that very soon(but it is unclear when) his guts smear on the asphalt of nowhere?

Only by learning to see at this level I would approach the person and say... But wait a minute, we forget something else. You also need to learn to see the consequences from what will You save this man or not save.

the question of morality. serious question.
it seems to me that a person who knows that another person is in danger, can not go past without saying anything.
how it will perceive the information, it does not matter.
we probably like your electrons, K-13, the that push each other...
you sensors will see the death of a person, for that would give him an additional opportunity. the transmission of information is able to affect consciousness and change "course". you act locally, as he is not able to cover the overall picture and therefore the butterfly effect does not concern you. you informants - handed and left.

[к-13]

K-13 wrote(a):
Very scary to live with the fact that you know something, and nothing can do about it... That's how You think, how you react on the street by a stranger, whom You try to explain that very soon(but it is unclear when) his guts smear on the asphalt of nowhere?

redhead wrote(a):
Only by learning to see at this level I would approach the person and say... But wait a minute, we forget something else. You also need to learn to see the consequences from what will You save this man or not save.

the question of morality. serious question.
it seems to me that a person who knows that another person is in danger, can not go past without saying anything.
how it will perceive the information, it does not matter.
we probably like your electrons, K-13, the that push each other...
you sensors will see the death of a person, for that would give him an additional opportunity. the transmission of information is able to affect consciousness and change "course". you act locally, as he is not able to cover the overall picture and therefore the butterfly effect does not concern you. you informants - handed and left.

Well, Yes, logically everything is beautiful(just like in the movies show), but the reality is much less fun. The desire of such outbreaks do not occur - most often it occurs unexpectedly stunning, apparently when crossing any kind of time threshold or to achieve sufficient "tension" of the information field, especially if such an intersection coincide with the time when the brain resets the accumulated trash(usually every 10-15 minutes restarts a fraction of a moment falling into a trance, to lose extra information and switch the theme of internal monologue) - at the command of such things is almost impossible to call...
Want an example of life? I had a friend, let's call him Vova. Vova liked to drink and one girl from the village, 15 km from our stanicki, he had a motorcycle. Somehow I had in the garage(we buggy was assembled from junk - plows front suspension, rear with dviglom scooter "ant", welded frame made of profile pipes...) touched his cicetti and me as the burned - back pain, neck, blood on his hands and evening sky with clouds right before your eyes. In principle, as it went, no one doubted that sooner or later he will find trouble with injuries-a paragraph, so I got him to talk about it just did not. And after three weeks suddenly felt really want to see him(a real feeling, like cracks on the glass glass are formed before the head was trinculo), fly him, and he to a young lady your going to drive. Understand that this is a moment, the consequences of which I saw, but how to tell him? Stupidly blurt out "don't go, so I think that this will be your last ride?" - so the probability is higher that he not only did not listen to me, so I still and will trigger the projection of a negative scenario, thus pushing the incident... Tried to gently hint to be careful, called the girl, asked to call me when he would arrive(so if a long time didn't go to drive test on the highway), two of us checked out the equipment, so nothing came off... Went. After 25 minutes, stop ringing that drove fine, wished me luck, said goodbye, just beginning to get dark... And the next morning I learned that Dylan did not come to her house - the bike he put it on the curb, sit on the bench for about 15 minutes, and when he was about to go, decided to throw his iron horse in the yard and when it went, the bike flew at full speed local fans to porizatsii on the "tuned" six - the remnants flew 18 metres from the impact and in flight brought down the master. Death... it Was almost 3 years ago, but his mother is still her only obvious reason is blaming his death on me...
And now, ladies, imagine yourself joyfully skipping jumping out, not noticing anything around in the flow of unconditional love for all beings. Here You are rudely interrupted by some completely left the individual and says that today You should go where You go, as this is dangerous. Maybe not very rude, but in the context of Your situation You are unlikely to be happy with distracting people, so immediately stick him with some unpleasant label... Your reaction? Yes, at best You will send it))) I'm not interested in the consequences of the fact that I intervened - that there are other mechanisms(Your terminology - the same space that has enough lines to such changes), but the fact that I give such information, and there's nothing I can do to use it, really cramping my style.
Who said I abandoned the practice and development of skills? I just switched to the other. More interesting.<

[bofara]

"'the Most difficult is when Wang must inform an incurable disease, or information that someone will die soon. These visions loads very her and she cries: "My soul is tired and sad:" How to tell someone that he can face pain and suffering in life ... Or his mother, that her poor child is going to die ... "

But sometimes to keep silent about a patient's condition is not suitable - Wang looks as close to some person will try every way to cure your loved one, but won't do any good because the disease is incurable and will last for many years. To not waste money wasted, she says in reality, what the real state of Affairs. Sometimes directly, sometimes subtly. Often it is just a word is decisive and the visitor remains with a smile, hope. Or he remains congested, but is already thinking about the inevitable.

"I participate in the hottest spots on the planet and see the bloodshed, natural disasters, catastrophes. You sleep at night, and I feel the tragedy of all people in the world." - Wang"'

Put here a few quotes.

[елей]

I'm not interested in the consequences of the fact that I intervened - that there are other mechanisms(Your terminology - the same space that has enough lines to such changes), but the fact that I give such information, and there's nothing I can do to use it, really cramping my style.

and you have a choice? you can ignore this information, to refuse it? other practices erase such visions? if so, then very well, because not everyone can engage in the sort of dead. but you continue to see, isn't it?
people are inherently compassionate. in my opinion any newbie surgeon is very difficult to cut a human body. fear of harm, to take responsibility for the mistake...but over time, in connection with the acquired experience, the confidence, toughness and understanding that it's paying homage to mankind, and his personal contribution.
after all, the scenario could be different (sorry, I do not feel the pain of such phenomena and perhaps do not have the right to say so, but still...)
"Vova, I have to tell you something. you have the right to listen to me but may not to. I have a gift, the gift of foresight, and because I care about you as a friend and person I want to tell you that today's trip could have very unpleasant consequences. I don't know what and how should be done but I strongly recommend on 15 min close your eyes and ask yourself the question: "do I need it to do today"...

[рыжая]

K-13, I want to understand one thing. If, in the moment, as You write, You understand that this is a moment,the consequences of which You saw, You understood that it was the last trip of Your friend, because I realized? Clearly, understood that it was a fatal moment, or rather the fatal trip (so You can see why), and You quietly let Your friend, because I didn't know how to tell him? So You stood and thought about what is necessary to save man at any cost, even to the jaw to give him, to go to recess, that is, You searched for the words?
If for example You were put in this situation. All the same, only coming to You that day and someone says: you saw what happened to your friend? You have to save him. Either you save him or die one of your loved ones.
In this situation You would need слова7 do you think You would be more resourceful?

[к-13]

Started on the farm morning Ladies, You now persuade yourself or me? You I don't think he was trying to convey that I have a bad feeling and he should not go? Or are You so sure that the feeling would never cheat? If so, then in both cases You are wrong. I even asked to go with him(or rather to withdraw, and in the morning pick up), but only made the situation worse - just before the fight didn't end like I know something about his passion, but the harder you try to hide it. I haven't seen crash, but he crashed while riding his motorcycle. I just caught an information printout on the motorcycle and had vague feelings of impending trouble. Are You such an opportunity - do what you think is right. I think the discussion on this topic closed, if you want to speculate, what would You have done, but I'd rather offered to conduct a real experiment - to try any of his friends to dissuade from something, what they really want(and really on the verge of it) when the first successfully about this opportunity - to talk-it's always easier.