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Post by Михаил_ » Fri Oct 08, 2010 14:47

past lives may not contain the similar level of development the elements of the given time (e.g. cable networks) and are typically of the incarnation is not perceived too much details (only the most significant events, not trivial), and can be seen in any order - ie you can jump to another time or the end of the memories, and so on. Chronologically linked events "as of now" is probably a parallel branch. There all very similar, but the details are slightly other, including, for example, some of the streets originating probably shifted for some years, and so on.
For example, I still busy with the telecommunications and used the equipment here is not found. You can of course be blamed on the vagaries of the subconscious, but judging by a variety of symptoms and documented cases of other people - most likely the translucence of the other branch.


And about what to do - so why not be content with the fact that "neighboring" world's dream has been realized and even the relationship with him is. Well, or make it a hobby. For example, the same sujok, if we talk about "being a doctor" can be mastered with the Amateur level and there is so much material available - for years enough...
And progressive is the modern medicine on the order.
So that the output can always find creative.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Fri Oct 08, 2010 15:07

рыжая wrote:Can you explain what this means? The tonal is out of Castaneda?
Yes, the tonal from Cascandy, but there is slightly limited (or so I understood :?), so I took in quotation marks.
If you take, for example, clinical psychological practice, then there is just everything there, and powerful sposobnosti to visualize and voices and feeling all sorts of... Expanded vision (at least outside the Cabinet, the rest is just untestable :)), for example, quite common in the acute stage of schizophrenia and have been described in the case histories. Navedenie (on perfectly normal people) hallucinations are also not uncommon. Sometimes you can help people by teaching them to distinguish reality from imagination, then that researches of the category of "disease" into the category of "ability." Some do learn (as my good friend, born and raised in a family of schizophrenics). But still, life is not easy - they are too different from the other (to talk to and share is usually not with whom) and "ability" still often break through self-control...
After talking with a few of these tightly compensated comrades and listening to their stories about themselves, reading litrature, :) and from my very limited experience :oops: I can only assume that the vision (as well as visualization, as they go hand in hand) is good to high beta checotah. At these frequencies there is a "emotional intensity". Personally I have it (the heat :)) very very exhausting physically. I even many years after his first experiences in "this business" like the plague and was shunned by these States, has not yet learned through Mashin and their drive to keep stable alpha state. But still, a quick "jump" back and forth I still haven't learned, and the ability three days after "this" holds a high pressure and an elevated heart rate. :? Maybe the young and coming off at first hands, but a heart attack of stroke wander somewhere nearby... By the way, my same good friend also very happy with the alpha training on machine (and behavior can be seen that the alpha on it is very beneficial), but again began to complain, what is worse "sees"... :?<

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Fri Oct 08, 2010 15:10

рыжая wrote:What can I do? Give up the dream of becoming a doctor impossible, is the most important part of man, to become a doctor - it is impossible, for example, to operate people need the fingers And the person they are not. Mission impossible.So the only psychiatric hospital or Pepa or sleep all the time?
A doctor may be impossible, but a healer-it is possible at any age to become. Maybe the question motivted and motivations are buried?

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Post by рыжая » Fri Oct 08, 2010 15:31

Михаил_ wrote: And about what to do - so why not be content with the fact that "neighboring" world's dream has been realized and even the relationship with him is.
To live in the shadow of a neighboring world, You would, Michael, signed up to it?
About sujok how about the compensation clear.

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Post by рыжая » Fri Oct 08, 2010 15:38

Андрей Патрушев wrote: Some do learn (as my good friend, born and raised in a family of schizophrenics). But still, life is not easy - they are too different from the other (to talk to and share is usually not with whom) and "ability" still often break through self-control...
After talking with a few of these tightly compensated comrades and listening to their stories about themselves, reading litrature, :) and from my very limited experience :oops: I can only assume that the vision (as well as visualization, as they go hand in hand) is good to high beta checotah. At these frequencies there is a "emotional intensity". Personally I have it (the heat :)) very very exhausting physically. I even many years after his first experiences in "this business" like the plague and was shunned by these States, has not yet learned through Mashin and their drive to keep stable alpha state. But still, a quick "jump" back and forth I still haven't learned, and the ability three days after "this" holds a high pressure and an elevated heart rate. :? Maybe the young and coming off at first hands, but a heart attack of stroke wander somewhere nearby... by the Way, my same good friend also very happy with the alpha training on machine (and behavior can be seen that the alpha on it is very beneficial), but again began to complain, what is worse "sees"... :?
Andrew, very sorry for this Your friend. Imagine how he has to fight with heredity, trying to stay within the realm of "normality".
It should, whether from Your post that You are able to "see"? Or what do You mean by this concept? And Your friend? And isn't ability don't go on the contrary, at very low frequencies?

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Post by рыжая » Fri Oct 08, 2010 15:46

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рыжая wrote:What can I do? Give up the dream of becoming a doctor impossible, is the most important part of man, to become a doctor - it is impossible, for example, to operate people need the fingers And the person they are not. Mission impossible.So the only psychiatric hospital or Pepa or sleep all the time?
A doctor may be impossible, but a healer-it is possible at any age to become. Maybe the question motivted and motivations are buried?
Actually, when I wrote about the doctor's dreams, I was looking for an example of something that people would like to be, but his ability in this life. The proposal to make sugioka or healing, it is appropriate, it is possible to compensate in many other cases. But imagine something else. For example, a person wants to be able to teleport. In reality it is not. But in dreams, Yes. Or take any other paranormal ability. Here ,Andrew, me more about motivation and motorowych possible? With any edge You approached this question?

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Post by Dimas » Fri Oct 08, 2010 15:46

I can assume that the vision (as well as visualization, as they go hand in hand) is good to high beta checotah
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PS. A very nasty condition, reminiscent of the I'm crashing from the stimulants or hyperactivity. In such States, the picture did come alive, and IMHO not healthy for the brain.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Fri Oct 08, 2010 16:16

рыжая wrote:Andrew, very sorry for this Your friend. Imagine how he has to fight with heredity, trying to stay within the realm of "normality".
Frankly, laughed honestly, :? - he can spare any... Yes, it's nice to see people and situations "through" and whosoever uses it for their benefit (I was with him all the time have to be alert :roll: ). The only thing that consoles is the fact that by nature he is still mostly good (as a woman :wink: )... Of course, it can be difficult, but he learned to cope.
рыжая wrote:And do all the abilities do not go on the contrary, at very low frequencies?
I would say that they operate at low frequencies, but implementation require a very high...
Most likely, this is not the whole truth...:) While slim concept (model), easy to check in practice, I have not developed. :?
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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Fri Oct 08, 2010 16:21

рыжая wrote:Here ,Andrew, me more about motivation and motorowych possible? With any edge You approached this question?
Well, if this is a hypothetical example, here to talk about. :? The question is simple: what he wants to be a doctor? - his deep, perhaps hidden from him, desire, motivation, and how he explains it to others, and self - motivation.

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Post by Михаил_ » Fri Oct 08, 2010 16:36

Андрей Патрушев wrote: I would say that they operate at low frequencies, but implementation require a very high...
Most likely, this is not the whole truth...:) While slim concept (model), easy to check in practice, I have not developed. :?
I'm probably still gonna buy a decent EEG....
generally, when I have a vision, no of the described phenomena with Overdrive and beta, at least I don't feel it, on the contrary, much like a deep alpha, but the video feed worked sucks, ie I have, everything is perceived as through a microscope - remotely and as would be reduced and the whole background of other signals the world is perceived as an outright hindrance, so as to keep long and hard and it easily breaks down into bugs, once or twice, literally... but if it is not rape specifically, but just to use casually, then break no time, but it is called literally at any time on the go, and no sense of ISS in General, soon comes some relaxation.
state promotion and fast pulse, too familiar, and I know when it occurs on the machine - this is the real cases of mobilization possibilities, not perceived dangers, etc., I in these moments to be very, very careful, because you can do anything and it really materializes. Ie, maybe this is related to visualization-materialization, not with perception. I have very and usually at a decent distance to the danger as the alarm. Usually causes the desire just hard to "change route" to leave the version where there is a danger of a radical (a transition to another immediately, feeling calm).

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Post by Михаил_ » Fri Oct 08, 2010 16:44

рыжая wrote:
Михаил_ wrote: And about what to do - so why not be content with the fact that "neighboring" world's dream has been realized and even the relationship with him is.
To live in the shadow of a neighboring world, You would, Michael, signed up to it?
About sujok how about the compensation clear.
perhaps because of the circumstances and some deep memories of the past I have to live with much more serious "difference" and nothing.... quite a cheerful feel.


Just having the desire to have surgery for example and having communication with the parallel where it is developed, it is possible to feel not a shadow, but rather a more complete and holistic - can be in one life to have TWO favorite things at once - how cool is that? Just implement some very resonant direction and you'll get two in one :) solid pros.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Fri Oct 08, 2010 16:48

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Yeah, me too, a very similar picture...
I have suggested that the "magical" (not his real name) vision is a survival mechanism, is fixed genetically and triggered strong emotions. And it is not entirely clear - most of these emotions are a necessary condition for its implementation, or just "trigger" and is it possible without them?
And the rest of the vision, really more like alpha and had stable manifest when I got rid of most internal conflicts (just seems like the level of noise and interference is decreased).

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Post by рыжая » Fri Oct 08, 2010 16:52

Well, glad that You are amused.
So You say that Your friend, all resulted in extraordinary shrewdness and ability to manipulate?
Андрей Патрушев wrote:the Only thing that consoles is the fact that by nature he is still mostly good (as a woman :wink: )... Of course, it can be difficult, but he learned to cope.
Women - kind?

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Post by рыжая » Fri Oct 08, 2010 16:58

Андрей Патрушев wrote:
рыжая wrote:Here ,Andrew, me more about motivation and motorowych possible? With any edge You approached this question?
Well, if this is a hypothetical example, here to talk about. :? The question is simple: what he wants to be a doctor? - his deep, perhaps hidden from him, desire, motivation, and how he explains it to others, and self - motivation.
An example about a hypothetical doctor. But a problem like this in my life related dreams I have. So, it is not hypothetical, but very serious for me.

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Post by рыжая » Fri Oct 08, 2010 17:05

Михаил_ wrote: Just having the desire to have surgery for example and having communication with the parallel where it is developed, it is possible to feel not a shadow, but rather a more complete and holistic - can be in one life to have TWO favorite things at once - how cool is that? Just implement some very resonant direction and you'll get two in one :) solid pros.
Probably cool, Michael. But I feel differently and it's very sad.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Fri Oct 08, 2010 17:06

рыжая wrote:Well, glad that You are amused.
So You say that Your friend, all resulted in extraordinary shrewdness and ability to manipulate?
Yeah, it's just a masterful manipulator. And he's a great pick-up...
However, it is difficult to refer "it" to "extraordinary pronitsatelnomu" when he at the first meeting detailed in the details and colors talks to you about your life, about the occupation (and past occupation, too), parents (so much detail), about his wife, about other women... :?

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Fri Oct 08, 2010 17:08

рыжая wrote:
Андрей Патрушев wrote:
рыжая wrote:Here ,Andrew, me more about motivation and motorowych possible? With any edge You approached this question?
Well, if this is a hypothetical example, here to talk about. :? The question is simple: what he wants to be a doctor? - his deep, perhaps hidden from him, desire, motivation, and how he explains it to others, and self - motivation.
An example about a hypothetical doctor. But a problem like this in my life related dreams I have. So, it is not hypothetical, but very serious for me.
Try prorabotal it according to the method of Tamara and Conery Andres "Core transformation" (this book).

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Post by рыжая » Fri Oct 08, 2010 17:19

Андрей Патрушев wrote: Yeah, it's just a masterful manipulator. And he's a great pick-up...
However, it is difficult to refer "it" to "extraordinary pronitsatelnomu" when he at the first meeting detailed in the details and colors talks to you about your life, about the occupation (and past occupation, too), parents (so much detail), about his wife, about other women... :?
Well, You, it, probably, in terms of manipulation, it is necessary to puff. And manipulation, if he was conscious, I think the number one rule, the manipulator does not in any way should not claim that he is a manipulator. Even if he does it purely out of love of art.
Andrew, but You link these abilities, I don't know what to call it, with another facet of his inheritance?
The one You wrote above?
For the recommendation on the book thanks. Be sure to read it.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Fri Oct 08, 2010 17:33

рыжая wrote:Well with You, Andrew, it, probably, in terms of manipulation, it is necessary to puff.
No, I'm all ready to give, and it is in vain to work like... :?
рыжая wrote:Andrew, but You link these abilities, I don't know what to call it, with another facet of his inheritance?
The one You wrote above?
Yes, he told me that since childhood, making breathtaking images with agitation, anxiety, loss of appetite and sleep, but at some point he learned to cope with it (literally, to pull away), and then realized that part of the images connected with other people, and how every child was to play with it...

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Fri Oct 08, 2010 17:53

рыжая wrote:And in the manipulation, if he was conscious, I think the number one rule, the manipulator does not in any way should not claim that he is a manipulator. Even if he does it purely out of love of art.
And what do you mean "not give"??? I've not once met, when a large head (often very stupid) turns any bastard that just a very rough and primitive flattering, and the back of the head doing all sorts of things (including and to the detriment of the head). The impression is that everyone understands that the manipulator (and he does not hide) and other manipulators in a hurry to squeal to a head on this, but the chief only otmachivanija like annoying flies... I think that without the "energy" of the binding here is not complete. In General, and a friend of mine something like that says about his actions: "hook", "pull" etc....

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Post by рыжая » Fri Oct 08, 2010 18:09

Hmm..... When I wrote not to issue, meant that the manipulator is not manipulated to give his true motivation. That is, if a primitive is flattering to do it sincerely. Manipulation high class probably includes acting talent.

Yes, but You write that Your arm does not hide it.
He's probably behind something pulls the head, to which others may not think of or reach.

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Post by Андрей Патрушев » Fri Oct 08, 2010 18:38

рыжая wrote:he's Probably behind something pulls the head, to which others may not think of or reach.
I say that my friend "see thread", "catchy hooks", "pull the strings", etc., and everything else: conversations and behavior, of course, is also adequate, but, according to him, secondary...

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Post by Маг.нет » Mon Oct 11, 2010 14:49

Андрей Патрушев wrote:Yeah, he told me that since childhood, making breathtaking images with agitation, anxiety, loss of appetite and sleep, but at some point he learned to cope with it (literally, to pull away), and then realized that part of the images connected with other people, and how every child was to play with it...
Андрей Патрушев wrote: I think that without the "energy" of the binding here is not complete. In General, and a friend of mine something like that says about his actions: "hook", "pull" etc....
Андрей Патрушев wrote:"see thread", "catchy hooks", "pull the strings", etc., and everything else: conversations and behavior, of course, is also adequate, but, according to him, secondary...
Agree, watched... With the hooks not really, this thread (manifesting as a response), but with them tied the knot and...


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Post by Смелый » Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:07

Dimas wrote:
I can assume that the vision (as well as visualization, as they go hand in hand) is good to high beta checotah
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PS. A very nasty condition, reminiscent of the I'm crashing from the stimulants or hyperactivity. In such States, the picture did come alive, and IMHO not healthy for the brain.
The pictures come to life on the opposite of hyperactivity. Edgar Cayce was known as the epileptic. And all the visions came to him when he was in the trance state after the next attack. It would be correct to assume: the higher yourself to rock in the Beta, the deeper dives where something can be in Theta or Delta. And maybe further. To know yourself. 500-600 kilometers away driving and even in difficult weather conditions, then fall without arms, without legs, and a cinema you provided.
Good luck to everyone!

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Post by Маг.нет » Tue Oct 12, 2010 14:31

The trance state, I agree. Similar effects from painful conditions (schizoid, epilepsy, etc.) may be TRANS, only unmanaged, in the main, in my opinion the difference. Swinging, do not know the frequency categories, but acceleration and deceleration is clear to me, mentally projecting "feelings" of fear, the stress, reinforcing one of the extremes of this pair, the output of the acceleration notice (stress) or inhibition (fear), and a noticeable feeling of change in the velocity of flow of time. Just pay attention...


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