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Post by Малика » Wed Sep 15, 2010 21:56

Novik,I agree with You 100%.

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Post by Воффка » Thu Sep 16, 2010 0:27

Wow you are divorced...

By the way, the Bold, do You broadcast as a preacher, and somehow are constantly trying to PROVE that Your point of view is the truth. In my opinion this suggests that You are not sure what to say. So why to prove?

P. S. Yes, even if You were sure, anyway, why argue? Just to share my opinion impossible?

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Post by Смелый » Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:36

Новик wrote:I admit there were a couple of times Whales in the lectures for another Silva that there is so people actually have to offer "sticky"
Novik, very interesting! Where were you on the Silva and who have many degrees, or stages passed?
I personally in 2004, from Vladivostok I flew to Dnepropetrovsk to Roman Borsuk. In principle, techniques like. But the problem is that I used the method myself, but the state could not enter. Couldn't get into it and the training. But without entering into a state, as You know, these techniques, by and large, a sham, taking money from people. In the end, I this method is not overpowered and left him alone.
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Post by Новик » Thu Sep 16, 2010 12:01

Bold
Took Vasilchenko Valeriya Center like called: "solution Center"
Passed the basic course....
Here is how you have described and I have this method in principle, the only Cho took this technique "the Creation lab"
I thought in the beginning that I just haven't gone but then read the reviews of Neti and as you can see there are many....
For yourself generally come to the conclusion that it is necessary to try the method which is reproduced more than a dozen years and a hundred is better)))
IMHO Silva method I think worked well for the Silva and those whom he personally taught....
The way to Silva studied at IGATE autotreninga also in General ochem but nothing more than Silva.

And not long ago worked with hypnology although expensive but the effect is immediately and the face got a lot of things interesting... and enter into a trance quickly and almost always well and there you know you can hold a job that you need
PS.
That's not like any doberti training in ZYQ

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Post by Смелый » Thu Sep 16, 2010 12:38

Новик wrote:And not long ago worked with hypnology although expensive but the effect is immediately and the face got a lot of things interesting... and enter into a trance quickly and almost always well and there you know you can hold a job that you need
I'm a year or two ago I realized, why not enter the state. At the age of 16 years I left eye two thin sliver of the reed. And I realized that when I close my eyes, then left in a closed state is compressed, as if in fear of another blow. In his head like boulders in the brains roll. Plus the damage to the left eye - the problem with the potential of the right hemisphere. I then did an experiment. Wearing right eye the bandage and activation of the right hemisphere decided to go with an outdoor one left eye. After an hour I realized that I was blind because the left eye with a load of alone quickly sat down. Removed the bandage after a couple hours everything returned to normal. Then wanted to go on Your way through the meeting. But here we have a good specialist on hypnosis - tight. However with the beginning of ispolzuya SP physically feel that ajna as if began to expand. And tonight realized that my so-called kogerentnoi the state of the two hemispheres of the brain. Felt the two halves of the body. Wait, and then I'll actually go look for the meeting. Because, sometimes, spontaneously, accidentally in the status entered, the buzz is extraordinary. But as soon as we began to realize that I was trying to hold it all quickly went away.
Thanks for the tip.
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Post by Dimas » Thu Sep 16, 2010 13:03

Novik
Not as advertising, but for business use - can you recommend a meeting?

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Thu Sep 16, 2010 13:20

hypnology is of course good....
if phantom is not.....

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There are no freebies....

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Post by Смелый » Thu Sep 16, 2010 13:24

Шалтай Балтай wrote:hypnology is of course good....
if phantom is not.....

PS
There are no freebies....
For persistent occurrence in alpha-status and ability to stay, for the assistance of meeting - not a freebie, but the free GIFT of HEAVEN!
Good luck to everyone!

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Post by Новик » Thu Sep 16, 2010 16:18

A little bit about your experience of hypnosis will tell well in sravni his seminars that I passed:
So, "learning" in IGATE(led on coaches with Muslimi diplomas, fool) and Silva I reached of course something that well, it relaxes to cause heat cold pain relieve but what is the TRANS(meaning it caused me persistent TRANS) and work in it as does not understand and most importantly couldn't feel it....
How much you want to re-read books, etc. and go through training but if the trainer does not have the skills of hypnosis(psychic a well, etc. this all depends on what language you speak) that all this at best is relaxation and nothing more.
The easiest example is the Silva we tried to develop a catalepsy of the arms 6 of 8 people failed this like the other two did well, like it or not dunno...
Session hypnology gave me catalepsy in 5 MIN!!! and after the session I've reproduced it a couple of times at home.

In General, the difference is that in these training sessions I was more telling as there is in the TRANS and what should I do to get there and with the help of hypnosis brought me to the TRANS(easy and not navasheva) gave out i.e. I bought a "REAL EXPERIENCE"
well, she taught us how to reproduce this EXPERIENCE.

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Post by Новик » Thu Sep 16, 2010 16:29

Dimas
A hypnotist has one big disadvantage, they are very good. dear guys... It's not Silva for 5000r :).
Who could recommend is:
Mikhail Romanovich Ginzburg
-Blinkov Alexander
But they were not... expensive
I pass the training, students Ginzburg type: "Masterskaya soul and body" Their prices are much terpimee...+ specialists, you can say in the subject one has ZYQ some stage 2рую like so many things it is possible to find a common language...
Humpty Baltay
And about phantoms for more? did not understand what was meant?
And by the way hypnosis is not a freebie, it is necessary to plow if, after this course has to score and not to train all will be gone

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Thu Sep 16, 2010 16:51

Новик wrote:And about phantoms for more? did not understand what was meant?
How long have You had the meeting?
Don't want to program, BUT
Hypnotist can create as phantom memories and phantom emotions.
Hypnosis is one of the most effective methods of treatment of certain (especially mental) diseases. However, moving away from him. Phantoms. Fears, dreams... anything...
every method has possible side effect.
free cheese only in a mousetrap.

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I want to make a mistake
Went to the meeting - and great.... that's cool....

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Post by Димитрий » Thu Sep 16, 2010 17:09

Шалтай Балтай wrote:
Новик wrote:And about phantoms for more? did not understand what was meant?
How long have You had the meeting?
Don't want to program, BUT
Hypnotist can create as phantom memories and phantom emotions.
Hypnosis is one of the most effective methods of treatment of certain (especially mental) diseases. However, moving away from him. Phantoms. Fears, dreams... anything...
every method has possible side effect.
free cheese only in a mousetrap.

PS
I want to make a mistake
Went to the meeting - and great.... that's cool....
Golden words! az
IMHO, after the session still needs to be "othodnyak" such as dreams... For yourself say. And these dreams that already wrapped shirt! In my opinion, this should be pre-prepared... if possible... can appear anywhere. :shock:

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Post by Новик » Thu Sep 16, 2010 17:50

Humpty Baltay
Dimitri
I don't know about something, we probably say different....
I took Ericksonian hypnosis, very soft it(therapeutic to speak)
If you are talking about directives or regressive that is another matter...
Passed a month ago, no I'm crashing was not...and why should they be then?
Generally, it is worth to understand
1)That people with different "baggage" come to the meeting if there really is a psycho problems then probably there might be changes that can be specific but that's what you have "baggage"
I didn't go for the treatment of psychotic diseases are therefore all exactly I had
2)the hypnosis should go prepared(well that's my IMHO)
I myself hypnology said that 1/3 of the people after the first session does not come any more why? Because they are not ispytyvali nor the fact that the TRANS and banal relaxation and often happen "level"( in the form of twitching body parts, difficulty breathing, crying, etc.), with me, everything was easy with him well after al, MM, CDs Patrushev I think this is not udivitelno...

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Thu Sep 16, 2010 18:02

hmm... interesting.

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Post by Смелый » Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:36

Add about the meeting, although he is still not addressed, ever.
Here we started with the theme of entering into the alpha State. It is practiced on the method of Silva and as aptly noted Novik, there's more to tell, as it should be, but the state is not administered. I spent money and flew to Kiev, because I was sure that I (maybe through hypnosis) enters into a state, and then I myself will develop. In General, some frustration. But I got now because I know what an alpha state. Sometimes I cling to it. This usually happens before awakening. The boundary zone between sleep and wakefulness. This state, with nothing to confuse. Experience an extraordinary fly. Age would not climbs. But personally, I have an interesting thing happens - you receive idea, I'm in the alpha state, it is necessary to resist and then it all starts to melt. Generally, entry into the alpha state, a very useful thing for adjusting your subconscious. And here rightly said Novick, it is necessary to plow. This is my evaluation method, but its effectiveness and especially the feeling in it, better than anyone here I think can tell Novick.
Novik, maybe share it with the sensations of being, possibilities, and maybe some examples of what I did than myself helped. Personally, I have a curiosity, already captures the spirit. Roma Borsuk teaching, itself in a state not included, does not know how. And You are the first person with whom I communicate and who says that he can enter and work in this state.
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Post by Dimas » Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:52

Dimitri
Dim, the point is that any more or less effective the impact of the first indirect sign of the successful work of this change of dreams. And the stronger the "folded shirt", the work was better. Moreover, in most cases, the plot of the dream, you can evaluate the quality of exposure. For example: was here this morning at 12 psychiatric hospital (for work :lol: ), there took the disk with the prog one, listened to a couple of days at night, as recommended, and now...earlier in the subjects sleep was often present fear and was a frequent "escape" and "hiding", now there is a tendency to "meet the problem", sometimes even to provoke a conflict situation from my side. And these dreams are usually very vivid and memorable.
PS AUTUMN EVENING is very good, could not resist and tried it yesterday, yummy :ay
P. P. S. to Enter the alpha state is much easier than this writes the majority. And if they are still correct techniques were given and properly explained to all - finally price they would not. :)

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Post by Новик » Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:54

Bold
OK, if there is interest, I have not a lot to tell about their experiences... Well, with Silva like understood so that its lower(although there are still thoughts that may not be in the method problem and the coaches)

I wanted to tell more about what I think those coaches and meeting with whom I spoke about the concept of alpha Status and MM...
Let's just say they treat this with prohladnoy
About alpha As according to them it's just a name brand(same Silva) and that as Takasago CONSTANT alpha state while you work(practice) no... it is constantly Prague on their frequencies...
In General they are more impaniruet concepts such as "TRANS" and "status" And that all his it with the specificity.In General, in our terms they do not accept...

About MM all in one voice say as "crutches" which of course can be used but no special meaning...
And that's me hooked I didn't really find in Russia any practicing coach or hypnology which would in any way used MM in their practice...

About sensations:
They I have first of all developed from my initial practice at ie if to describe it vygledit like so:
1)I rasalas fizicheski and myslenno
2)start otset from 10 to 1
3) from 10 to 5 fully "working on" the body feels most clearly otchetlivee heat in the hands and feet and easy chuvsvo animania head
4) from 5 to 1 I this condition is called phase No. 2 is already rasslablenno body I begin to immerse even more into a trance of examples, how much
Here is the most simple and effective(for me): Imagine the volume of the room where you sit, then the volume of his body(already relaxed) then the ratio of their body volume of the room(awesome feeling) and then imagine the "dissolution" of himself(his body) i.e. I myself here and now and the body is everywhere across the room...
All I am able!

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Post by Смелый » Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:08

Thank You Novik!
But I'm actually on the state. You see these pictures, when, as if a slight movement of the brain you are in CONTROL of WHAT is HAPPENING THERE? I get it, but only for a short time. Here is as picture of your state in it. There you can fly, to see an unusually bright picture, and they are natural. Not as flat as the screen and surround. And again. When I get there, the feeling is light, like the sky of clouds and no sun svetu. That this state is called the alpha State. It is. Because I tell you not about someone else's experience, but of his, though not frequent and for short-term stay. You have this condition happens?
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Post by Смелый » Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:16

Dimas wrote:P. P. S. to Enter the alpha state is much easier than this writes the majority. And if they are still correct techniques were given and properly explained to all - finally price they would not.
If it's so simple, so share how easy it is to do. And about the techniques. Technique method Silva invented cool (if he didn't, wouldn't say). And if you know how to enter the alpha State and remain there for a long time (10-20 minutes per eye), then what is given on the Silva, a godsend. There is much to do with him. There are no difficulties. Just need to be hard-nosed and consistently, repeatedly doing the same thing. To obtain the result. And vel might have some other ideas, and jump like a squirrel from target to target. There, self-discipline, anywhere as needed. Regarding discipline, I'm right Novick?
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Post by Dimas » Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:19

Bold
You describe your personal experience and "pictures" are different. One of the criteria the state has rightly described Novik is volume, You have it in the light, I have the opposite in complete darkness and the abyss, and with varying degrees of feeling very big and the infinitely small, sometimes accompanied by uncontrollable "perekryvaniem language", that is the impression that the language in the mouth rides in a circle (it's a personal experience,naturally it can only be me,for example because of kako-thread of neurosis :lol: )

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Post by рыжая » Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:22

Смелый wrote:Thank you Novik!
But I'm actually on the state. You see these pictures, when, as if a slight movement of the brain you are in CONTROL of WHAT is HAPPENING THERE? I get it, but only for a short time. Here is as picture of your state in it. There you can fly, to see an unusually bright picture, and they are natural. Not as flat as the screen and surround. And again. When I get there, the feeling is light, like the sky of clouds and no sun svetu. That this state is called the alpha State. It is. Because I tell you not about someone else's experience, but of his, though not frequent and for short-term stay. You have this condition happens?
Good luck to everyone!
You know, Brave, I was sure that this is theta. Well, because there easier to manage. But You write that alpha. Bummer.
What, then, is theta is characterized by?

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Post by Dimas » Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:27

Bold
If it's so simple, so share how easy it is to do.
No problem:
1) You must be not hot and not cold, it should be absolutely comfortable (for t*)
2) the Lying, the important thing is not to sleep,achieved by training,but short
3) Elastic band from cowards no pressure
4) Key point - focus on the breath (I feel so a lot easier), you can reverse the score, it is possible to concentrate attention on the body, causing thermoglue, etc., the main thing is to be calm and not want to enter the state,is the most difficult :)

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Post by Dimas » Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:30

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Yes, Bold has described rather Teta :) The lesions appear alpha in the brain when you just I close my eyes. Bold and ready to break into the "astral plane" :)

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Post by Смелый » Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:39

Dimas wrote:Yes, Brave described rather theta alpha Lesions appear in the brain when you just close your eyes. Bold and ready to break into the "astral plane"
It may be so. I alpha called out of habit, as Silva called it. But it is not called, the as cool. That's a lot of things you can do.
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Post by рыжая » Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:41

Dimasand what You described above, including paragraphs 1 and 3 of 2.4 is alpha?
You wrote that You too are conditions are about the darkness
and abyss. You have these transitions from alpha to the deeper state work consistently? If so, please share how You trained.

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