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Post by Нетрезвый Сурдопереводчик » Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:05

the gospel of Barnabas,and the apocryphal,at Svinicki published in the book "the Apocrypha of ancient Christians."this author I read from the Soviet era,with publications in "science and life".the more I read all of these terribly advanced apocryphal writings,the more understand-why they were discarded.spread is not Ho--not the format here,and to sense something.
Kabbalah is not a sect. turn in Judaism, from old Testament Judaism(which is nothing wrong,a pure religion the knowledge of God and communion with God) to the Babylonian views happened in the time of Rabbi Akiva.he was not a Jew but a foreigner-a proselyte.about 124 ad, formed part of the Talmud.most Kabbalistic ideas ,as mentioned above.borrowed from the beliefs of the inhabitants of Babylon,in the notorious "Babylonian captivity"(where Jews lived more than sour).now something called "Judaism",actually is cabalistic Talmudism."no recorder" users of this book call it "an Encyclopedia of human stupidity",and when commenting on the main text is not important urtext,namely comments to it,then the--the comments to the comments etc. in this book, a lot of convenient things,for example,a Rabbi can marry a girl aged 3 years and 1 day,with the same age is allowed to oral-anal molest girls and boys starting from 3 years(the exact place in the book can on request),extra-marital affair with a non-Jew is not considered cheating husband(wife) in litigation between a Jew and a Jewish newreel the court should in any case point to the truth of the Jew ..and more interesting az :lol: az :lol: az az

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Post by Guest » Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:15

Шалтай Балтай wrote:In Russian, even do not look
And why not look? :?

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Post by Нетрезвый Сурдопереводчик » Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:16

Anonymous wrote:Dimas

You are confusing education with spiritual development.
That's when the schools will teach the "law of God" - then go to school is not worth it.
by the way,under the tsarist regime were not forced to teach the Law of God.after all, he is the Law only for Orthodox Christians.I know how it was--my grandfather was in high school.then an atheist could be unprofitable.for admission to any educational institution(school,Zemstvo school,Realschule,gymnasium)required an extract from the parish register.they were conducted either in churches or in mosques or synagogues or temples(Yes,Buddhists no one was caught).but an atheist entrance was ordered at all.Yes, and it was not them that are open atheists.as for the baptized,by virtue of the fact that the Synod was a state,any citizen of the Russian Empire,the Christian religion,was obliged every six months to come to confession in his parish.if this does not happen-citizen automatically got registered in the secret police.and for followers of other faiths was no direct supervision.learn the history :o
PySy:communication style can be seen even "with the Guest",so the "--show your face!" :roll: bi :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: 8)

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:34

Хозяин wrote:the more I read all of these terribly advanced apocryphal writings,the more understand-why are they rejected
The more I talk to Christians the more obvious it becomes that they are simply brainwashed.
just look at Zeitgeist
everything is painted in detail.
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:36

Anonymous wrote:
Шалтай Балтай wrote:In Russian, even do not look
And why not look? :?
and what is a complete translation of Barnabas in Russian?
link!

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Post by Dimas » Tue Jan 26, 2010 13:29

Шалтай Балтай wrote:
Хозяин wrote:the more I read all of these terribly advanced apocryphal writings,the more understand-why are they rejected
The more I talk to Christians the more obvious it becomes that they are simply brainwashed.
just look at Zeitgeist
everything is painted in detail.
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
Look wider. Wonder WHY was released this film, whose money and for what purpose..? 8) :wink:

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Tue Jan 26, 2010 13:39

Dimas wrote:Look wider. Wonder WHY was released this film, whose money and for what purpose..?
well?

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Post by Dimas » Tue Jan 26, 2010 14:19

Humpty Baltay
what "well"?... I asked the subject for reflection :lol: to chew everything something need?

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Post by Жека3000 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 14:36

Dimas
well, with what purpose and on whose money do you?

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Post by Dimas » Tue Jan 26, 2010 14:49

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Nope... :lol: guys,well, use your imagination...In our world, nothing is done just so, if someone something funded, then somewhere is someone who needs it :) Conspiracy theory, X-fils, etc...but this time... :wink:

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Tue Jan 26, 2010 14:51

Dimas wrote:Жека3000
Nope... :lol: guys,well, use your imagination...In our world, nothing is done just so, if someone something funded, then somewhere is someone who needs it :) Conspiracy theory, X-fils, etc...but this time... :wink:
simply put You, Dmitry - nothing
You just show off :o

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Post by Dimas » Tue Jan 26, 2010 14:54

Humpty Baltay
Of course, as always :lol:

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Post by Нетрезвый Сурдопереводчик » Tue Jan 26, 2010 14:54

gentlemen,learn to use the Internet.at least the search engines.immediately after the release of "spirit of Time"(the translation is incorrect,because "geist"-- rather,"Ghost",rather than "spirit" in the sense of "Russian spirit" :lol: :lol: :lol: ) there are at least 2 website "antizeitgeist",where as authoritatively explained that the whole film--satanic-Masonic notions.there was even a website where stranica was divided in half and left the arguments "for"and the right "against" :shock: :shock: :cry:
this is what I am....the film was shot people.books are written by people.when shooting oriented to different audiences.you can make movies about gangsters,but to compare "Snatch" and the TV series "spider Web" on NTV's impossible due to the fact that the first film--a masterpiece,and the second collected on the knee cooking in the desire to cut more. bablosa(I am familiar with a professional film Director,you know--how does the shooting).most newfangled knijku type "takes ideas that are not pleasant to God" are written for not very competent izotermicheskoi audience.God will not mocked. for example,produced a study of the "gospel of Judas",in the style of the text,the handwriting on the manuscript material on which it is written--this is a typical Manichaean text.again,time appears Judas(Mary Magdalene, etc.), as it is believed that for readers of the Bible--not an empty sound.and if is not empty,then the Bible says that in betraying Christ,Judas came into the Temple,threw the pieces of silver(they had bought the land where still exists a cemetery) in the middle of the Temple,then went and hanged himself.when he wrote his Scripture--my brain can not cope with this task :lol:
to write such dirt will be in the future.here only to write a book like the Bible,which is read already the 2nd a thousand years--vrjadli someone out :D :D :D :D

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Tue Jan 26, 2010 14:58

Dimas wrote:Humpty Baltay
Of course, as always :lol:
and why did You do it?
how long have You got?
want to talk about it?
8)

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Post by Dimas » Tue Jan 26, 2010 14:58

for not very competent izotermicheskoi audience
:ay Almost what I wanted to say.

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Post by Dimas » Tue Jan 26, 2010 15:00

Шалтай Балтай wrote:
Dimas wrote:Humpty Baltay
Of course, as always :lol:
and why did You do it?
how long have You got?
want to talk about it?
8)
Yeah, but You forgot to create the initial trust relationship, which means beforethese issues...if pritenduyu therapeutic effect 8)

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Post by Нетрезвый Сурдопереводчик » Tue Jan 26, 2010 15:08

Шалтай Балтай wrote:
Хозяин wrote:the more I read all of these terribly advanced apocryphal writings,the more understand-why are they rejected
The more I talk to Christians the more obvious it becomes that they are simply brainwashed.
just look at Zeitgeist
everything is painted in detail.
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
I watched it,and watched even all the anti-Zeitgeist.and why? explain--why am I brainwashed,not you?all signs-you.because I'm driven by my faith,and you-fashion.plus,it looks like when you "pop stung" :lol: ..or someone in your family.
generally,if you criticize faith as a phenomenon,why not try to carugati Muslims,Hasidic,Catholic?I already asked this question a few pages back,but also squeal in response ,heard nothing.to me,despite the fact that I position myself as an Orthodox Christian,do not like much of what happens in my Church.the priests at Maybach dealers cigarettes from the temple,pedophiles and homosexuals and vyhlaseni.them-a minority.but they are like everywhere(parish among Brahmins anywhere in Varanasi such "bakshish-Swami" too, enough,the mullahs are sitting in the Istanbul brothels and marry-divorce clients with prostitutes...well,that edit was not :) :) ),masked to do their own little gesheft.
but,the thing is that I do not believe the priests in the Maybach.I believe in God.there's a big difference.in the canonical documents of the Church says:"pop--is the same person as you and me.Takako had exactly the same responsibility before God,as an ordinary layman.and responsibility in this World all people are unique".every,the actions or brings or separates himself from God. very well you can feel it when you get it in a state of "near death".there's the whole "husk",all izotermicheskoi sediments disappear...say "mother!"and then,when really pressed,will say "God!"...I wonder why....<

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Tue Jan 26, 2010 15:10

Хозяин wrote:of the Lord and learn to use
immediately obvious
the owner
teacher
chuvstvuete?
want someone to learn something?
how long have You got?

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Post by Dimas » Tue Jan 26, 2010 15:13

we immediately see
the owner
teacher
chuvstvuete?
want someone to learn something?
how long have You got?
Like in that movie.."Sam, you idiet?"... :lol:

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Post by Нетрезвый Сурдопереводчик » Tue Jan 26, 2010 15:22

by the way,can you explain why--I understand why all the Apocrypha was thrown out of the Canon.first,not at the Nicene Council.translating this stupidity,you only demonstrate your.the fact that discarded the Scripture did not differ from "Catherinedale"(read this,huh? :lol: ) or from the "Gherardeschi".the fact that the initial preaching of Christianity was among dostatochnykh peoples,until "the Greeks",the Jewish proselytes of Greek origin.moreover,in Rome the preaching of Christianity was received with enthusiasm.what another God on the altar--it is possible to drink and have sex in his glory. az .moreover,the Christians themselves were perceived to cheer.required only one thing-to worship the idols.but it's not about that...due to the fact that almost 100 years after the preaching of the gospel the Christian community was stewing in his own juice,trying on Christianity, their beliefs.
but:
Hebrews 11:13-16 "these All died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and rejoiced, and said of himself, that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth; for they who say such things show that they seek a country. And if they had been thinking of the country from which they came, they might have had opportunity to have returned: but now they desire a better, that is, an heavenly; Wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for He hath prepared for them a city"
1 Peter 2:11-12 "Beloved! I beg you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul, having your conversation honest and virtuous life among the Gentiles, that they for what they speak against you as evildoers, seeing your good works, glorify God in the day of visitation".
and:
" for we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of darkness of this world against spiritual wickedness in high places" (Ephesians 6:12).
..smart,but of course :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by Нетрезвый Сурдопереводчик » Tue Jan 26, 2010 15:40

Шалтай Балтай wrote:
Хозяин wrote:of the Lord and learn to use
immediately obvious
the owner
teacher
chuvstvuete?
want someone to learn something?
how long have You got?
I am including the teacher.taught many.well that's immediately obvious.and I love the details.I'm here to teach no one wanted. there are curiosities for such exercises.a lot of people with a ruined psyche,personality...yet here I do not have(starting from the startposteru)questioning my faith-I on these topics was silent.the point was to stick out. simple:once kicked,it means care.time care means to understand that "everything is real"...

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Шалтай Балтай wrote:and what is a complete translation of Barnabas in Russian?

link!
I thought maybe the translation is wrong, and therefore not read. :?
http://www.agni-yoga.net/BASE/hrist/index.html

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Post by Guest » Tue Jan 26, 2010 16:15

By the way, all transfers with a distorted sense. Specifically it was done or not I do not know.
Take the punishment allegedly on the cross (pagan sign) - well, there was a penalty in Ancient Rome! Not nailed criminals to the cross with nails.
It was one of the most painful executions in history. People did not die from loss of blood. A man was tied to a pole hands up and he died a long and painful few days from the heat and flies, and the guards gave water to man did not die prematurely, and suffer a little longer. Also, any citizen could walk up and spit in the face of the offender, so the place of execution was guarded by soldiers, to someone out of compassion, not killed as a Martyr.
And as Moses lifted up the serpent ([rod, pole] literal translation) in the wilderness, even so must be lifted up the Son of man...John 3:14.
So what does the symbol of the cross with nailed it nails the person can only guess - either through ignorance translation done...

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Post by Нетрезвый Сурдопереводчик » Tue Jan 26, 2010 16:29

Anonymous wrote:by the Way, all transfers with a distorted sense. Specifically it was done or not I do not know.
in the Apocrypha and in many liturgical texts of Christianity is the crucifixion used the phrase "hanging on a tree."it Yamalo rather allegorical than practical value.in fact,the crucifixion was used as a binding(for the elbow and waist) and nailing(places of joints of the hands to the wrist joint and foot with his ankle.this is due to the mechanism of the penalty.pain,flies,birds and humiliation(for the ancient Jews was a shame to be in public without clothes)--not important.death comes from suffocation.the body sags down(nailed hands and feet tied and elbows-waist create a direction)aperture trampolinist,breathing stereotype about an hour or three is lost and people have to catch up on the hands to inhale and exhale.not Zra on the shroud of Turin and on the remaining beams of other crosses for crucifixion,the place where the cross was placed neck and the base of the skull all cheroot of blood-the man from poslednie tried to breathe,pulled himself up,not noticing that broke the back of the head and neck on the crossbar.the bar usually played for a stake.as soon as the forces left executed in a matter of minutes, it was death by suffocation.invisible to expedite such a death interrupted the ankles.
translations,Yes,it's a sore spot.from Hebrew to Russian is generally very difficult to translate word for word-literally.each translator contributed something of their own...there's a good book on this subject:"the Jewish issues on the Book of Genesis",the author Jerome,incidentally,is the translator of the Vulgate

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Хозяин wrote:my profession including teacher
It Is A Diagnosis. I would also dabavil, finished prepodovatel or a teacher on his head! This post just describes you
Хозяин wrote:(I am familiar with a professional film Director,you know--how does the shooting)
Wow! I remember as a child reading the product mishkina Kasha, there is also the character "knew" how to cook porridge. Saw Mama cooks. He knows... That in addition to hearsay about what you do not do you know? Try to take at least fifteen minutes of video, then talk the language...
Хозяин wrote:a lot of people with a ruined psyche,personality..
In someone else's eye is always the mote noticeable than the log in your own!
Хозяин wrote:while is not(since the startposteru)questioning my faith--I'm on this topic is silent
When your girl here was beaten, you were not here in sight. Would be immediately unsubscribed. But you need to be sure to stir the fire was extinguished. Well, get another, sorry chtoli?
Хозяин wrote:actually,if you criticize faith as a phenomenon,why not try to carugati Muslims,Hasidic,Catholic?
We still you one enough, for entertainment. Who came to us, he gets. The way you wrote the post about the Muslim that I am supposed to, being afraid, did not answer. You have the same professional memory. Second time asking - lift my eyelids, and select it. If the quotes from this forum, I shall have you to count in idle gossip and a liar. Quote me, quote...
Хозяин wrote:Here I already asked this question a few pages back,but also squeal in response heard nothing
a plaintive mewing kitten in a puddle of his own urine.

You went to the scene and pulls all the time is not there, the Apocrypha remember, the hare Krishnas, some Dan brown...
TO UNDERSTAND ANTI-HUMAN IDEAS OF CHRISTIANITY - THE BIBLE IS SUFFICIENT ONE. This "Holy" book against itself svidetelstvuet. That is why there is a huge detachment of interpreters of the scientists God donkeys's. To wash a black by calling him white. Well, voluntary helpers, such as you...<

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