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What I understand from the literature, schizophrenia is associated very strongly with biochemical processes in the brain and the body may not be digested or improperly absorbed some substance, as sodium thiosulfate allows him to leave.
And on another forum (I think "Assembly-Path") read a statement that our emotional processes govern the internal "settling" - worms, sorry. And sodium thiosulfate, in addition to everything else, and anthelmintic.

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It is strange that sodium thiosulfate is produced for the needs of pharmacotherapy only for parenteral administration. Because the testimony is not only acute toxicity but also chronic and enteral introduction in such cases, as it is known, is preferable. What do You think, whether it is connected with peculiarities of the pharmacokinetics of this substance? If You have data about its bioavailability and distribution - will be highly appreciated, as the issues of detoxification of the body in a metropolis, is considered undoubtedly relevant.
Reading the previous page, met some contentious issues IMHO, which you may notice the following:
- In a number of generations for the drug claritin (claratin) are drugs based on desloratadina such as "Aerius". This at least sounds more correct.
- ASD has not found applications in human medicine because of unmet expectations after the boom in Soviet times - as explained in an interview with the daughter Dorogova, the drug after the activation of the immune system and related to the expected favorable changes led to the depletion of a relevant system, making it impossible for its further use. Sorry, changed the formula the inventor claimed. Actually, the rest of the world the use of adjuvants in modern medicine came to naught, as it was opened the more subtle mechanisms of the body, and the safer targeted therapy. However, Russia has its special way associated unfortunately with almost complete impossibility of synthesis and the introduction of modern drugs, due to the economic insolvency of domestic pharmaceutical industry.
The next generation after the oligopeptides are are no translations available. The feel is an improved version of tsitaminov obtained by extraction from animal tissue, with a lower molecular weight. And here are no translations available - it's a fully synthetic product. On the basis of explained by the inventors of the mechanism of action of these supplements not mean that it is possible to close any "factories" in the human body. As I understand it, speech can go about filling the existing genetic defects, stochastically accumulate with aging of the body. Course application due to the rather long period after stopping, when there are observed these positive changes in the body systems.<

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I had a strong feeling that the thiosulfate acts (positively) on the mind, unfortunately it is not clear how.

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I had a strong feeling that the thiosulfate acts (positively) on the mind, unfortunately it is not clear how.

First you need to understand is absorbed it. If Yes then what %. What happens to him next. If he reaches the CNS and in what form. While these data will not make it unreasonable to believe yourself. Although, I have read the testimonials of our brave scientists. For example, where that already read that upon contact with the acidic environment of the stomach it is destroyed with the formation of hydrogen sulfide. No doubt our discussion is not enough of a biochemist

P. S. However indirectly, mentioned in the previous post, I believe that unfortunately this question has already been solved by these specialists and not in favor of the enteric form.

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However indirectly, mentioned in the previous post, I believe that unfortunately this question has already been solved by these specialists and not in favor of the enteric form.

On the other hand there is even a patent on a method (though there are a few components) http://ru-patent.info/21/05-09/2108101.html and food additive is also E539 sodium thiosulphate.

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on the other hand there is even a patent on a method (though there are a few components) http://ru-patent.info/21/05-09/2108101.html and food additive is also E539 sodium thiosulphate.

Thank you, although this document is familiar. Unfortunately, there is no information clarifying the issues raised by me i.e. no data on the pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics. Guidance on how these components were introduced. Also not confirmed the relationship ( statistically established relation between the phenomena and its strength ) between their admission and the ensuing recovery. ( As You know 5 of the evidence considered as such can not - at least at the present stage of development of science ). And besides, strictly speaking, a patent may not be evidence of clinical efficacy and safety of use.

E539 - In the description to this Supplement, on the application inside, and can truthfully say only that "under acidic conditions sodium thiosulfate decomposes to form sulfur and sulfur dioxide". When taken orally, as You probably know, sodium thiosulfate, gets straight into the stomach with its acidic environment (pH 1.5 and 2.0 on an empty stomach), where the formed sulfur dioxide or SO2 - IV class of hazard.
SO2 is a colourless gas with a sharp odor, irritating to mucous membranes. Prolonged exposure causes acute inflammation of the mucous membranes and the bronchi (cough, sore throat and chest, watery eyes). Dust sodium thiosulfate is toxic. If it enters the human body it can cause vomiting, lethargy, circulatory disorders, palpitations. http://www.ntcp.EN/work/library/5052/4818
We can also assume that joining forces with the protons N in the stomach produced by the parietal cells, to form hydrogen sulfide. You need to ask the forum users who take the thiosulfate - do they smell of rotten eggs. All the rest of the description copied from the instructions for the parenteral form, except, perhaps, cutaneous application and our consultation is not relevant. http://prodobavki.com/dobavki/E539.html

Sodium thiosulfate is not approved for use as a food additive in Australia and New Zealand. [url]http://pishevie_dobavki.academic.ru/350/E539[/url]

Its hygienic standards Hazard GBV-98: PDK in air of working zone 10 mg/m3, hazard class 4; MPC in water 2.5 mg/l hazard class for water 3. In Russia allowed as an antioxidant in the salt iodized at levels up to 250 mg/kg (p. p. 3.2.21, 3.4.14 SanPiN 2.3.2.1293-03); in improver flour and bread flour in amounts up to 50 mg/kg (section 3.7.14 SanPiN 2.3.2.1293-03). http://www.tann.ru/e539.html

Now it becomes clear the lack of oral formulations for sale?<

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I Need to ask the forum users who take the thiosulfate - do they smell of rotten eggs.

from thiosulfate -- no, ASD-2, ' Yes... as otrygnet accatino -- nice directly

by the way, I thiosulfate a couple of times and rubbed his head... dandruff poperedohli (ETOGES fungus or not enough of something), if not washed off for example a few days from the head the gray starts to stink like hell...

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Good day!

Questions to Andrei Patrushev.
Just going to "vitaminiziruet" nicotinic acid with vitamins by O. Patrushev, as I found this topic, interested sodium thiosulfate. In this regard, a few questions:

1. Is it possible to combine nicotinic acid with vitamins and sodium thiosulfate? Or first sodium thiosulfate, and then nicotinic acid with vitamins?
2. Necessary (or desirable) to add alcahol to sodium thiosulfate (and how much) or not?
3. At what age would you recommend to use sodium thiosulfate?

Thank you.

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Myrtle
No, the smell of rotten eggs do not feel at all, the burp too. The idea is that if the thiosulfate in oral administration is injurious to organs of the body, the health must deteriorate, and I see the opposite (subjective).

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gray stink like hell...

Sulfur has no smell, "sulfur" smell of sulfur dioxide.

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1. Is it possible to combine nicotinic acid with vitamins and sodium thiosulfate? Or first, sodium tiosulfatand then nicotinic acid with vitamins?

Rather, the opposite.

2. Necessary (or desirable) to add alcahol to sodium thiosulfate (and how much) or not?

For being.

3. At what age would you recommend to use sodium thiosulfate?

I not recommend anybody to use sodium thiosulfate (just shared my experience). My children used (on the situation) with a very early age.

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My kids were using (on the situation) with a very early age.

What dosages and at what age to children have been used?

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Just going to "vitaminiziruet" nicotinic acid with vitamins by O. Patrushev

If not a secret where you can read about the scheme "fortification"?

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where can I read about this scheme, "fortification"?

To write in the network key words: 'Oleg Patrushev'and 'nicotine'- for example to search for information. There are interesting comments about the schemes and effects in different sites and forums. By the way here on the forum too information.

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What dosages and at what age to children have been used?

A teaspoon of 7% solution 15-20 minutes before meals with colds and gastro-intestinal diseases since they themselves have learned to drink.

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Andrei Patrushev
Thanks for the replies.
And about allahol, it when to take before or after sodium thiosulfate, and how much? And "feeling" how do you know that it will have to take?

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where can I read about this scheme, "fortification"?

To write in the network key words: 'Oleg Patrushev'and 'nicotine'- for example to search for information. There are interesting comments about the schemes and effects in different sites and forums. By the way here on the forum too information.

Here, for example: http://spring-rapsodiy.ru/post216385366

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the idea is that if the thiosulfate in oral administration is injurious to organs of the body, the health must deteriorate, and I see the opposite (subjective).

The idea is alcohol, nicotine, drugs, loud music, etc., etc., destroy the body, but the body gets satisfaction from the process of autodestructive ( a protective reset mechanism in the blood of endorphins and enkephalins ) and up to a certain point, believes that everything is fine or better than fine. Decide for yourself, not being an expert in the field of biochemistry, I made an argument about the primary pathways of metabolism of thiosulfate sodium in the body when taken per os. Can find the best - always a pleasure to read, and build your own conclusions about the safety of usage, based on the "feeling" is not worth it IMHO, the body is full of compensating systems. By the way dud, or even a mild venom, it is quite possible, if not cure, then certainly to improve the health of most patients. About the placebo effect I hope You remember yourself kind of like what I wanted to write an article.

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And about allahol, it when to take before or after sodium thiosulfate, and how much? And "feeling" how do you know that it will have to take?

Not before and not after, and if - if hurts the liver.

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Sulfur has no smell, "sulfur" smell of sulfur dioxide.

I don't know, there is nothing to compare, when my childhood friends was building a bomb ( ) -- pounded yellow piece of sulphur, magnesium and then wanted to add (do not remember) - in General the smell is similar

and so, Yes, at first smells, and then... maybe thiosulfate reacts with anything to anhydride

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Andrew, maybe You know, but Your uncle in the new method may be changed selection of the vitamin complexes for any new? and then I found his method where he writes about the whole family, undevit etc.. and these "curiosities" of the old even difficult to find in pharmacies

Yes, now the method of "Complivit".

1 Nicotinic acid tab 0.05 g 1-20 PCs per day 21-40 units 41-60 pieces per day day 61 to 80 pieces per day PCs 81-100 101-120 per day per day + 200 (according to Pauling)
2 Dekamevit drag 1 2 3 4 5 6 + 10
3 Complivit drag 1 2 2 2 3 3 And 4
4 Hendevit drag 1 2 3 4 5 6 + 10
5 Menadione tab 1 1 1 1 1 2 T 2
6 Asparkam tab 1 2 2 2 3 3 + 4
7 Methionine drag 1 2 2 2 3 3 4
8 Glutamic acid tab 0, 25 g 1 2 3 4 5 6 + 10

Please check for the most (not)understanding:
1. If dekamevita and hendevit not to find it, I will replace them soon?
2. I have Aerovit "found", it's composition is similar to dekamevit, you can add (them to replace)?
(The first priority).
Thank you.

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From the article on the Internet O. Patrushev:
"To promote health for minor deviations from the optimum enough to use from the table the first four components: 1) nicotinic acid; 2) dekamevit; 3) Complivit; 4) undevit".

So, if dekamevit and hendevit not, to promote health enough nicotine and Complivit?

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Oh youth, youth...After I saw how was done in Revit, no longer a Walker to domestic vitamin