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Post by Смелый » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:33

I am about the same. It would be funny if it were not so sad!

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:56

Смелый wrote:need just to increase energy to pay more attention to yourself. Keep track of your feelings, listen to yourself.
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Смелый wrote:I don't understand, in this state, as can be sticky?
That's the beauty of freedom of choice :?

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Post by Смелый » Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:07

No need to worry about world domination or conspiracy. It's all too much. You just need to DEVELOP THEMSELVES.
But, nevertheless, we are. Each one of us. I lead, as I write this, you are when You read it.
To think differently a great mistake, for thinking so. Plus, the logic in their own development - not an assistant. On the contrary. Michael somewhere recently wrote about the role of the right hemisphere in human development. Two hands subscribe For. Only the development of own energy and coherently work of both hemispheres of the brain will produce the desired results.
I am sure that the corrective mechanism of our development is in each embodiment located in our Subtle Bodies. Perhaps in Mental. We move, gain experience, and someone appreciates us, and upon evaluation of the experience gained, we get the next life of the task or test. This is how the next program in the computer. Old removed, new put. Old or complicated. My opinion is not an axiom. In the esoteric is the principle: "do Not ask - do not go!" Personally, my principle is: "Prosecuritas, and though there is no dawn!"
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Post by рыжая » Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:13

Смелый wrote: I don't understand, in this state, as can be sticky? Life is beautiful, you just need to with increased energy to pay more attention to yourself. Keep track of your feelings, listen to yourself. To turn into a kind of shell. Down with books! They lead away from self-knowledge. To follow their feelings and develop their most important quality: "Feel yourself here and now." After a while the feeling - more energy. Suddenly, a couple of weeks (or another time), perfect time to pass a test. Let's talk about norbekova, Bronnikova, Sviyash, etc. will Not receive credit. This is the way norbekova, or someone out there. And what you personally represent. Oh, great achievements in the study of Sviyash. Deuce, my dear wannabe!
Good luck to everyone!
PS it Is believed that the forces leading each of us, fail us at the right time to a certain point of development, skipping through that, acquire a different quality. One has only to trample on the spot, or just evade to the side, and you can fly past the rendezvous point. Will there be a second chance - is unknown. Even if it is, then it is unlikely very soon.
Well-written, and most importantly in your own words.

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Post by Смелый » Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:23

Шалтай Балтай wrote:Bold wrote(a):
I don't understand, in this state, as can be sticky?

That's the beauty of freedom of choice
Yes there is freedom of choice. Our consciousness is our enemy. It does not want to stay in one place. It is curious. It constantly puts all his nose, but would not sit still. The need for development and simultaneously the most difficult to feel here and now. Try to be in a state of concentration on yourself any time (the more the better) and you will see big resistance consciousness, which runs either forward in time (into the future) or backward (into the past), or to the side.
Where our thought - there is our energy. Try to concentrate, for example on the thumb of his feet. And you will feel the heat. This surge of energy. When you think about the thoughts revealed in the light of another preacher (including reading this post), you give that preacher at the moment its energies (including me while reading this post). So isn't it better to think about yourself, about how to improve themselves and develop. Try to feel in your body. And you will feel a surge of energy. But if you will always feel in your body. Imagine what strength you will gain. View of Eastern philosophy. The here and now. The main principle of development. Freedom of choice when choosing one of the teachings is wasting his energy on the success of someone. This is the sticky. Freedom is when you develop themselves according to their own perceptions. After all, You, Humpty, spoke about the role of your own intuition. And the need to listen to it. And without the development of the right hemisphere of the brain this way is futile.
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Post by Новик » Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:25

Incidentally, in that same link about the Insider... openly stated value of knowledge and not people!
Ludu only transmitters and not always good....

To me this position is very close and probably not me alone :)

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Post by Логик » Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:46

Смелый wrote:No need to worry about world domination or conspiracy. It's all too much. You just need to DEVELOP YOURSELF
Well, Yes, heard, read...
You just develop yourself. Not see that your people, your culture, your environment, is destroyed! So what? The enlightened no nation, no kind, no Fatherland... Dazdravstvuyu citizens of the world!
Rulers of the earth such "enlightened" is not terrible. Because real power is not present.

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Post by Смелый » Tue Sep 14, 2010 13:17

Логик wrote:Well, Yes, heard, read...
You just develop yourself. Not see that your people, your culture, your environment, is destroyed! So what? The enlightened no nation, no kind, no Fatherland... Dazdravstvuyu citizens of the world!
Rulers of the earth such "enlightened" is not terrible. Because real power is not present.
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I can not (EVER, so don't even try, my thoughts are (and I do), just thinking out loud) You are to convince of anything. And You, too. Then, as You can convince the "killers" or anyone not to kill? Nation, the homeland, the people - only clues, depriving people of the opportunity to jump out of a succession of incarnations. Our home is not Earth. We were exiled from our house for any infraction.
Earlier there was fashion of speech Bashkir poet, antifascist Julius Fucik
"Do not fear the enemy for he can only kill.
Don't be afraid of a traitor - because he can only betray.
Be afraid indifferent. Because with their acquiescence be done on earth, betrayal and murder!"
Well said. Yes, but not to lead those words.
All watched the movie "the Secret". There are the words of Mother Teresa: "I will never go to a rally against the war. But I will gladly go to a Peace rally. If against someone, be HIS enemy." You should never be against, including against the killers. You need to be yourself a Creator. And on the creation concentrating his thoughts. Myself creative. Like, attracts like. Shredders, attract killers, even those who are against them. BECAUSE IN THE END THEY THINK ABOUT THE SAME - ABOUT THE DESTRUCTION! Builders attract builders as they think about building. And to fight against the destroyers for the bright future of all mankind (or a single nation, single race, etc.), this means war. After all, every war has two sides. As soon as the killers, the adversary appears, and that the possibility of war.
And if the killers have a field to destroy, You destroy this field, not able to help. Because the developing or the creative people in this field misses. Just not necessary to say that during the war, many were forced to fell light good goals. None of us knows why these heads were born in the tenth or twentieth years of the last century, not the fifties, sixties, etc. everyone has their own destiny.
And Enlightened... they are really not afraid of anyone. Because they are not trying to act as scary. And to speak of them now....
Good luck to everyone!<

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Tue Sep 14, 2010 13:35

Смелый wrote:Because it is You, Humpty, spoke about the role of your own intuition. And the need to listen to it. And without the development of the right hemisphere of the brain this way is futile.
well, who would argue with that....
Смелый wrote:no freedom of choice here
well, why not. Of course there are :wink:
Those who wants to get stuck for any perception- it is their right. By the way have the right not to know. This is the same freedom of choice.
Смелый wrote:Our mind is our enemy
no, my friend, of course.

I would poproboval put it this way: Thought is a disease. Because it is a product of the left hemisphere. Those who think a lot - just wasting energy. Those who stick to those who thinks a lot - gvorit give rise to the relationship victim is a parasite. Not vigno what they're saying. It is clear that all their talk is good. :lol: They think so.

I would venture to say that the human brain is not meant to produce thoughts. It's just a lie. All he can do (the brain) to tune to a certain wave of ospiate and broadcast. ALL
What to tune and what to broadcast is the FREEDOM of CHOICE

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Post by Логик » Tue Sep 14, 2010 13:40

Смелый wrote:, the Nation, the homeland, the people - only clues, depriving people of the opportunity to jump out of a succession of incarnations. Our home is not Earth. We were exiled from our house for any infraction.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Oh well... Fresh food, but it turns gray with difficulty..
Infraction... debt... karma... favorite fairy tale of all religions. There is "Insider" with his statements - "earth is a prison"
People who believe that they have "faults", it is very easy to go.
Смелый wrote: All watched the movie "the Secret". There are the words of Mother Teresa: "I will never go to a rally against the war. But I will gladly go to a Peace rally. If against someone, be HIS enemy." You should never be against, including against the killers.
And who spoke against this? Need to know the mechanisms of the enslavement of the people. Most people don't know them. Including "builders prosvetlennye" etc. that's why the builders of a global state so far.
Смелый wrote:And to fight against the destroyers for the bright future of all mankind (or a single nation, single race, etc.), this means war.
war, as it turns out, is not hudshee that can happen. Much worse than the quiet, slow destruction of the people by means of "capitalism" and "democracy". The most dangerous enemies pretend to be friends...
Смелый wrote:And if the killers have a field to destroy, You are destroying that field not able to help. Because the developing or the creative people in this field misses.
Really? You recall the story of the destruction of native Americans, received in istoryi the nickname "Indians"? They were destroyed 300 years. Well "everyone has their own destiny."
If you're my destiny no control, she manages to another.
Смелый wrote:As Enlightened... they are really not afraid of anyone. Because they are not trying to act as scary. And to speak of them now....
Do not carp at words. You perfectly understood the meaning. The real forces are that may affect the globalizers.<

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Post by ЛИЛИЯ-Р » Wed Sep 15, 2010 0:16

Bold wrote(a):

All watched the movie "the Secret". There are the words of Mother Teresa: "I will never go to a rally against the war. But I will gladly go to a Peace rally. If against someone, be HIS enemy." You should never be against, including against the killers

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And who spoke against this? Need to know the mechanisms of the enslavement of the people. Most people don't know them. Including "builders prosvetlennye" etc. that's why the builders of a global state so far.


Hopefully not too offtopic(Liu) Who are interested read and see the BER Petrov(Concept of public security) And Pro-globalizers and about the mechanisms of control and enslavement.This is a topic that few people know about it. It is the largest organization.It is a pity that Petrov already there. Probably not convenient became ......

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Post by Михаил_ » Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:07

But who cares, he looks at BER very carefully and notice that they just wanted (and want) to replace someone else's manipulation on his own.
No better. Me with this office had to deal with the reverse side. Hard. The attempt to show strength in mind control (direct programming). An attempt to introduce the person to my business and whatnot.
The texts of the BER-and extremely poisonous as information and Malapascua is a Prime example of manipulation and a good command of dirty technologies.
It's very simple - the guys found something and thought they were brilliant and almost alone, but could not see the elephant... the elephant is slightly (very slightly) crushed, as much they did not have time to aim properly. ie they saw only the smallest part of the picture, and I thought this is the whole world, began to build on the basis of this assumption, the theory and practice of exposure.
Primitive. According to the military.
But the world is not what we see outside the window.

As a poet my friend:
"One day - one day, I was friends with the eccentric,
he thought the sky under the ceiling."

But the story ended well - the crank has walked out the door and saw the sky. And often and continue to think that they are part of the proven picture of the world is the WHOLE WORLD.

In General, all as in the parable about the moon.
Logik PS +5.

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Post by Смелый » Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:17

Honor, homeland, defense of the downtrodden, compassion, mercy. Who is against? At some stage of human development, it is extremely necessary and useful quality. But this is just another stage. The highest point of human development is Enlightenment. At the moment of the occurrence or awareness of the Enlightenment, a person experiences a tremendous burst of energy. This comes from the fact that eager the latest binding (Honor, homeland, defense of the downtrodden, compassion, mercy, etc.) which gets its energy to the humiliated and insulted. ALL! He won't netretic their energy to compassion and mercy for those who himself can not help. It is free. Its nothing binds you to the Earth. This is his last incarnation. He had no reason anymore to come back here. Soon he will come home. As we honor him!

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Post by Раймис » Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:41

Bold
You have come to this Enlightenment?

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Post by Михаил_ » Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:11

Bollocks, I'm sorry... this is the influence of propaganda, just esoteric. Whoever told, probably forgot to tell you, and what does a man then what kind of a "home."
How much dogma in one short text... spend your energy(have You seen or spent? ), mercy to those who cannot help (and why, one does not understand try?) and most importantly, no more cables... more there is nothing to bind? yeah... with such a perception it is better to do nothing tied...
Honor and the homeland is generally the norms of society, not the person. Program, albeit constructive (or restrictive from destruction).

All of the above but a popular theory divorced from reality, but very comfortable. Because a thinking person is dangerous. They need such a theory to do.
It is only suitable to a broken world. To justify its anomalies to shift them to something otherworldly.

Let me tell you my story.

The material world is a special place. A world where the creatures exist long, capable of self-development and interaction. This does not occur in a purely informational, softer and more rigid worlds. This is the most convenient place for creativity, where someone called a man long and long engaged in creation. Creation of new worlds and filling them with new, more complicated details. You can consider this game, can school, can life. Is it right to explore other people's creations to their creations to repeat changing, change - improving. Usually every person has his own internal creation, but to create the world that you can make tight, need a whole range of factors such as need in the team. This is well reflected in the beginning of Silimarina Tolkien. Only a dozen other travelers that have passed the stage of learning from friends and neighbors and tune in your plans. Then, after the creation, the planet for some time, becoming something of a testing laboratory and a place-a village, where come new.
But sometimes crashing.
When the interaction of the external force intervenes.
Maybe someone crooked creature, perhaps something from another corner of the universe that plays by its own rules.
And then the world may die, but the team is not going away, but it is highly traumatic for their inner worlds, which appears in the dense world created in unison.
This time the invasion was waiting. As they entered the area to normal. And decided to play by the rules of an external force, to play on her strengths and try to build up an immunity to it. A very difficult task, which was delayed for many cycles in which the old record was repeated again and again.
External force applied many tricks. One of which overpopulate the world and block in this creative clash of ideas.
The second is to break the perception of what is happening.
The third is to produce people who did not know of the first stage and lost the ability to be creators.

The arena creation has been moved outside (in books and religion), the learning process of newcomers was interrupted. The population swelled to many orders of magnitude, inhibiting individual creativity.
But the experiment in an attempt to build immunity yet has not suffered a defeat, although good has not yet become. The circle is countless and there is almost no those who remember how it all began. But nobody can take away from man the fact that everyone in the image and likeness.
One external force suffered yet unequivocal fiasco was an attempt to colonize a planet purely artificial races, but they humanizes.... we all woke up the creative aspect. Biorobots gradually became human.
External power also repeats the experiment again and again, trying to solve their problem.
And inside came the confusion between theories of the structure of the world, religions, magic, fighting clans, raskraskami pieces and remnants of memory and knowledge about the full possibilities of the person.

that's the story. I'm sorry too, than the rich....
By the way a very slightly simplified version of this same tale the French made in the 90s in the slightly naive and utopian science fiction film "Beautiful green". The film was banned for mass hire - well, democracy :) then several years ago, then our children moved, now is in the network. He may be naive and not all of it shown so much just auto primitive thought, or wasn't strong enough to shove even more complex stuff in the script so that the viewer could understand, and so too is a complicated thing happened.
But the essence... the essence of it transferred fine, though simplistic.
And poor Tolkien read multiple attempts this way and that, and begat a bloody and terrible silymarin in your figurative perception of past eras.

Success in ascension :)<

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:26

Michael.
And why you wrote it?
Want someone to prove something? Who? What?
Want someone to show us something? Who? What?
Want someone somewhere to drive? Who? Where?
Want to take your place among the people? What?
What makes You do this?

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Post by Смелый » Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:51

Михаил_ wrote:Bollocks, I'm sorry... this is the influence of propaganda, just esoteric. Whoever told, probably forgot to tell you, and what does a man then what kind of a "home."
Something You hooked and caused the rejection written. Michael, You should not write about me as a person host of esoteric nonsense. I and smaller significance things do not despise anyone. The principle you know, "for the market to respond." Want to be on this forum as the Messiah, who is against. But You forgot that the Messiah insulting thoughts, knowledge of other, removed from the pedestal and goes straight to the kitchen. I live under the laws and allow others to live by their own laws. But at the same time firmly rejected the attempts of others who want to prevent me to live according to my laws.
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Post by Смелый » Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:04

Раймис wrote:Bold
You have come to this Enlightenment?
Do you think if I came I would be broadcast would be on this forum? This does not mean that this forum is beneath my dignity. On the contrary, thanks to the dialogue here and reading the posts people are really wanting and making steps towards the development and use of products purchased here (for which thanks again to the people promoting them), I say, from the many that prevent me to get rid of. And the future will show. There is a saying: "Only death will show what someone has achieved in this life!"
But the truly Enlightened know the value of words and the measure of responsibility for them. Because I know that many will make them spoken, for granted. But this influence and believe deprivation of freedom of choice.
Good luck to everyone!

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Post by Раймис » Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:12

Humpty Baltay
I am interested in any point of view and every opinion. If no one wrote, it is absolutely not interesting. Alexander could not translate "revelations of the Insider" and almost no one ever found out about him...

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Post by Раймис » Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:25

Смелый wrote:
Раймис wrote:Bold
You have come to this Enlightenment?
Do you think if I came I would be broadcast would be on this forum? This does not mean that this forum is beneath my dignity. On the contrary, thanks to the dialogue here and reading the posts people are really wanting and making steps towards the development and use of products purchased here (for which thanks again to the people promoting them), I say, from the many that prevent me to get rid of. And the future will show. There is a saying: "Only death will show what someone has achieved in this life!"
But the truly Enlightened know the value of words and the measure of responsibility for them. Because I know that many will make them spoken, for granted. But this influence and believe deprivation of freedom of choice.
Good luck to everyone!
However, you broadcast it as truth, but do not even have personal experience in this. So you can take any foreign theory or imagination, believe in it and to convey to others. :?

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Post by рыжая » Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:32

Шалтай Балтай wrote:Michael.
And why you wrote it?
Want someone to prove something? Who? What?
Want someone to show us something? Who? What?
Want someone somewhere to drive? Who? Where?
Want to take your place among the people? What?
What makes You do this?
Humpty, and why You wrote it?
Why Michael, because only Michael You write so.
Want to prove something? Who? What?
Want to show something? Who is that?
Why?
You asked a question to Michael, I ask You.
With all due respect People are not blind and not stupid.
And the forum is public, anyone can write and Express their own truth, too, can every, any.

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Post by Dimas » Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:35

Can my 5 cents?
Recently realized, the direct insight of some received (by the way, under very peculiar circumstances, there was a strong temperature, body aching, nauseous and with all the ensuing :lol: ) that apparently everyone needs "to smoke your tobacco pouch, drink your alcohol tank and read a ton of any books" to step into ITS path. There are so many millions of people who have their opinions, your Outlook on life and desire this look to potenzirovti others due to various reasons. Sometimes these people come together in groups to facilitate these broadcasts, find supporters and followers etc etc.
What I'm saying. Apparently the words all haveshare the truth, for if we are in the image and likeness, then our every thought or idea is already an act of creation in the present, past and future tenses and implemented. Therefore, each broadcasts the truth in some sense, another thing is the truth whether it is specifically for each of usit is another question. So I realized that arguing about such things is useless, unless of course the subject of the dispute does not threaten the security of my and my family.
Old, but important, to accept that we need peace in the soul, that is to accept the world :) To date, I think so.

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Post by Логик » Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:35

Смелый wrote:Honor, homeland, defense of the downtrodden, compassion, mercy. Who is against? At some stage of human development, it is extremely necessary and useful quality. But this is just another stage. The highest point of human development is Enlightenment. At the moment of the occurrence or awareness of the Enlightenment, a person experiences a tremendous burst of energy. This comes from the fact that eager the latest binding (Honor, homeland, defense of the downtrodden, compassion, mercy, etc.) which gets its energy to the humiliated and insulted. ALL! He won't netretic their energy to compassion and mercy for those who himself can not help. It is free. Its nothing binds you to the Earth. This is his last incarnation. He had no reason anymore to come back here. Soon he will come home. As we honor him!
The full paragraph!!! That is, the scribe....
Here's psychology and allows you to edit the globalizers.
Смелый wrote:insulting thoughts, knowledge of other
These "thoughts and knowledge" I read in the early 90s in various "esoteric" magazines and books. It seemed like some sort of revelation. It is now clear whose "revelations".
And how did you decide that it is your thoughts and knowledge? How long are you on them thinking, of buying? And now they, once read, for "their thoughts and knowledge."

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