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Post by Михаил_ » Thu Sep 09, 2010 0:16

there is agreement with the colleagues. Does not make sense to give the theory without practice, because in my opinion, only experience will give the response, and the words all interpretiruya different.

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Post by Маг.нет » Thu Sep 09, 2010 7:12

Михаил_ wrote:Some fun really began is not even funny. For example there are stories about what has changed the frequency of the noise.

Go to some esoteric crowd and everything say that I know that it is true and no one can tell who is where and how measured. Because no one anywhere. Contactees written.
http://sosrff.tsu.ru/ Measure here, you can explore the history of the online Laboratory of space Geophysics and ecology (Siberian physical technical Institute).

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Post by Маг.нет » Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:21

Михаил_ wrote:I saw how people were involved in a model and often in dense the faith of its bearers, and either drowned in the (ceased to perceive an objective reality), or deep disappointment after seeing the distortions and lies.
I think these effects depend on the degree of "involvement" of the reader. I go to similar models of another, first as an observer, and only after additional study and analysis of some of the principles try to imagine, your attitude.


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Post by АК » Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:05

I've recently wondered just how different things used, are able to move the perception... or maybe there is more appropriate terminology castanesa on the points Assembly...

The fact that there is a such a strange coincidence the attitude of some friends who are busy with different pieces of orgonite... a Fairly common theme: the New World Order and all sorts of conspiracy theories... the fight against malicious government agents... wrestling with all sorts of demons and aliens that continually annoy and attack...

Read all about it in their personal statement is here:

http://educate-yourself.org/
http://educate-yourself.org/dc/adcepisodeindex.shtml
http://www.loohan.com/
http://www.ethericwarriors.com/ip/index.php

By the way, don Croft, who actually invented the Succor Punch, here's how he describes it:
http://educate-yourself.org/dc/SuccorPunch22jul02.shtml

I some time spent on leisurely reading, and then in my head appeared several such a crazy question, suggestion... what if the excessive use of all sorts of different orgonite things begins to shift the assemblage point in some sort of situation where all these demons, aliens and other harmful creatures -the usual case?! By the way, I will not discuss now, like it or not... that's a separate issue... just an interesting coincidence... I'm here involuntarily reminded of Castaneda's inorganic beings... maybe this is because they are the assemblage point to move through orgonite. :)

On the other hand, I myself also myself for fun, different things did and like alien reptiles for the time being under the table and do not climb... or is it just a matter of time?! 8)<

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Post by Маг.нет » Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:08

АК wrote:how different things used, are able to move the perception... or maybe there is more appropriate terminology castanesa on the points Assembly...



The fact that there is a such a strange coincidence the attitude of some friends who are busy with different pieces of orgonite... a Fairly common theme: the New World Order and all sorts of conspiracy theories... the fight against malicious government agents... wrestling with all sorts of demons and aliens that continually annoy and attack...

I agree, the shift points of perception (point of Assembly) in these cases may be (if "try on"), and then either "return" or "reading"...
And the use of "similar to" those or other models for the transmission of the description of the principles, in my opinion, more often "figuratively", and therefore flexible (easier to "trying"). And then, after reading another "tale of life", are "try", to spread these models for granted... Because they "explain" their attitude.



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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:20

Новик wrote:Well, the Insider and more the pressure was on development and as a consequence possible understanding of what the.

GORDEEVA and this stupid separation in the social. the plan, although if I could find was this article in 1991, PTS. interesting...
because obviously that "sortcallback" has not a complete picture
Новик wrote:books revealing some conspiracies like that, I PTS right all....
"take what resonates, the rest - throw away" - almost a quote

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Post by Шалтай Балтай » Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:32

АК wrote:I'm here for some time spent on leisurely reading, and then in my head appeared several such a crazy question, suggestion... what if the excessive use of all sorts of different orgonite things begins to shift the assemblage point in some sort of situation where all these demons, aliens and other harmful creatures -the usual case?!
these things punch energy channels that automatically expands perception.
Here fine used to have coached intuition that would not be addicted to that "not necessary".
That's why I always say - do practices.

For example, consider the polarity
If You go to the homeless and naciente him about organo-generatory to talk about or inoplnetyan, demons, reptiles. What will be the reaction? Its structure is primitive, it will not be able to perceive it. You can, because for You it is easier to resonate with the information. BUT you need to UMT to make a choice, what is truth, what is false. With lie way too can resonate, in fact it is the craft of acting here somewhere.
When the energy is good, it is clear that the susceptibility abruptly obrastaet. Just need to make a choice what is what and where.
I, if You noticed my opinions not yet expressed, although it was roundly criticized as a conspiracy. This is a personal perception of those who criticize. To me it is not related. The Buddha said, "you are what you think". What they say about me is not my idea. These people talk only about themselves, though they do not understand.

If you really want my opinion, it is about aliens there. they javno on earth. They have their own "business". BUT for example - IKE - this is complete nonsense.



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Post by рыжая » Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:31

Шалтай Балтай wrote: PS
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No problem, Humpty. :) You're welcome. If not, call. Glad you liked it. :)

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Post by Раймис » Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:33

Маг.нет wrote:
Михаил_ wrote:Some fun really began is not even funny. For example there are stories about what has changed the frequency of the noise.

Go to some esoteric crowd and everything say that I know that it is true and no one can tell who is where and how measured. Because no one anywhere. Contactees written.
http://sosrff.tsu.ru/ Measure here, you can explore the history of the online Laboratory of space Geophysics and ecology (Siberian physical technical Institute).

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And what is this resonance has changed? Like frequency is the same.

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Post by Маг.нет » Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:49

Раймис wrote:And what is this resonance has changed? Like frequency is the same.
The fact of the matter is that like anything... but have seen a significant (previously there were no such indicators) bursts, when changes in other related parameters associated at first glance with the "solar flares" so-called "magnetic storms", in this period, noted "minor" changes in perception.


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Post by Михаил_ » Thu Sep 09, 2010 13:04

AK, SP, in my opinion, moves the assemblage point, or rather perfectly captures her at the bottom and a little odd , since the frequency range of the energy from orgonite has a couple of features - touches the lower chakra + a bit different from purely natural variants (material). Here comes a strange resonance. Ie the idea is still good - tight washing the lower centers gradually raises the energy up. However, the bottom is always a bit of an imbalance (more than above).

If energy powered more or less evenly, SP is not felt until starts working (as confirmed by my observation of ready SP in the office, and monitoring MAG.not published - the feeling go when it begins to run Mobius and the crystal, not from orgonite, since in this case "battery" without activation does not feed the bottom - there are enough). Apparently ideal to activate the SP frequencies of the different chakras, or alternately superposed one on another.

All of this (use the default), a perception apparently can give, so I suspect that the assumption is not without soil.

By the way, "organic" from Karl over at the correct natural frequencies.

I generally agree with what wrote above Humpty - you need to take what resonates, aliens there in commercial quantity and for a long time (by our standards = always), but not in the way it draws "followers" and the science fiction+ IKE=nonsense. But the problem is that many reading the lyrics can't save the detached perception of "stuck" in the outlined model by the ears or deeper.

Some (even many) authors are working very hard on drawing the reader into his model. It's a subconscious activity for the preservation of PERSONAL integrity. Model of what is happening through the eyes of another author of an esoteric bestseller = his inner world. People trying to convince of the correctness of their model, saves himself, his consciousness from the "attack" of the outside world. In the usual case it is not very important. More precisely not so important, as in the case of abnormal relative to the prevailing public versions of paintings of their own worlds. Ie if is the world according to the beliefs of some religion, then it is already hanging in the millions or billions.
And if it's something specific and very different from the classics, the specificity is another cause of the syndrome of "surrounded by enemies" which sometimes comes out. The world press is an anomaly in human consciousness. People making a subconscious effort to make his picture more stable. The only effective way = to replicate it on others.
It works.
This is one of the reasons I don't like to talk about his view of the world. Imagine what I can flatten it much. In this case, though I have reason to believe that she is rather other, not the fact that in many places I'm not mistaken for some jarring moments. The General perception of it is constantly changing. So if I start to describe how I see the whole picture, I'll rubbing this and myself (I will refrain from changing their descriptions that they believe other) and other. It is not good.
Here to present some points can, as they all give their "Assembly" into a whole and can easily be cut off from the world picture, if there are worthy substitutes. Not the whole does not involve the perception of the person as a whole.<

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Михаил_ wrote:This is one of the reasons I don't like to talk about his view of the world.
And can you name the books and the people who influenced it?

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Post by Михаил_ » Thu Sep 09, 2010 16:44

most influenced myself, a book I called. The impact of which I consider positive and sometimes weergeven. The whole Zelazny (apart from Chronicles, there's a lot of very different things, showing different faces). All fry, in addition to collections others stories in his sostaviteli.
Of people is an unfamiliar name, my friends. Were familiar to many, but they are not very much left but understand the desire to pull in your contract more people.

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Post by АК » Thu Sep 09, 2010 16:53

Many thanks to all for the feedback. It was very interesting to hear your point of view.

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Post by Guest » Thu Sep 09, 2010 17:11

Михаил_ wrote:All fry, in addition to collections of short stories of strangers in his sostaviteli.
It.
Михаил_ wrote:but they are not very much left
Castaneda (assemblage point) and Monosov (the Contract)?

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Post by Михаил_ » Fri Sep 10, 2010 0:12

Well, about the "her" is the question. In the sense who's carries texts on paper, this is the one who creates the hell knows.
I have absolutely perceived as a male character (the author), possible past incarnation, perhaps external to the paper, the author people.

Castaneda - no allergies. Take it as unreadable (as a poisonous text)
Monosov - limited. Books, a La "Psychotronics" is considered advertising and is dangerous in the sense that many after them can not get out of the model. Lectures in audio version find useful if you listen to them critically (especially when you consider that sometimes they say opposite things). Actually, I respect him very much... human. Because more often than you would think absolutely coincide with him in opinion and vision processes. But on matters of principle diametrically opposed to the vision, so I would in any case would not recommend to take it as a basis.
In addition, the contract SHEMA and in the model of the world prescribed a perpetual lack of energy :) contrary which works the same BJ :)
Even then Burislav of Servest, including closed mailing lists. Or did I mention that earlier?
But it is terribly abstruse (Monosov at least able to explain clearly and Servest capable of simple things to clarify so that no one would understand what it was about).
But the question was "what influenced", no Monosov, nor Servest has not affected my world view and my perception. For training - Yes.
When I wrote "not much left", he meant rather other names from the past.

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Михаил_ wrote:Well, about the "her" is the question. In the sense who's carries texts on paper, this is the one who creates the hell knows.
I have absolutely perceived as a male character (the author), possible past incarnation, perhaps external to the paper, the author people.
I also thought that the author man.
Books, a La "Psychotronics" is considered advertising and is dangerous in the sense that many after them can not get out of the model.
I don't know. I liked it.:)
But on matters of principle diametrically opposed to the vision, so I would in any case would not recommend to take it as a basis.
In addition, the contract SHEMA and in the model of the world prescribed a perpetual lack of energy :) contrary which works the same BJ :)
Type specifically spelled out? From harm?
I have not noticed a lack of energy. On the contrary.
even then Burislav of Servest, including closed mailing lists. Or did I mention that earlier?
But it is terribly abstruse (Monosov at least able to explain clearly and Servest capable of simple things to clarify so that no one would understand what it was about).
1\3 of his books I read - then I did not...
But the question was "what influenced", no Monosov, nor Servest has not affected my world view and my perception. For training - Yes.
When I wrote "not much left", he meant rather other names from the past.
Clear.
From the past meaning of past incarnations?

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Post by Смелый » Fri Sep 10, 2010 4:36

Михаил_ wrote:If energy is powered more or less evenly, SP is not felt until starts working (as confirmed by my observation of ready SP in the office, and monitoring MAG.not published - the feeling go when it begins to run Mobius and the crystal, not from orgonite, since in this case "battery" without activation does not feed the bottom - there are enough). Apparently ideal to activate the SP frequencies of the different chakras, or alternately superposed one on another.
Activation of the SP frequencies of the different chakras alternately - that's understandable. Personally, I am doing so now What do You mean by "process," "imposing one another?"

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Post by Маг.нет » Sat Sep 11, 2010 8:02

Смелый wrote:"imposing one another?"
Most likely refers to the simultaneous activation of two or more of the chakras (simultaneous broadcast on SP two or more frequency bands). Why? You're an example of the technique of redistribution of vital energy brought, I think with this use of SP, with this Technique it is easier to work...


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Post by Михаил_ » Sat Sep 11, 2010 12:13

right, I mean it. Why? - in order to avoid distortions in the linear saturation.
However, even though I don't recommend at the time to interfere with BJ and SP, I believe it is possible for SP to put sway worn BJ though 1.0 version (free) and it should point frequency flow, because BJ has a resonance with the host, and he used to drive all of the desired frequency based on the current capabilities of the cocoon to accept them.

Sorry, some of the questions above, addressed to me and require a more detailed response, I will respond later, a little busy.

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Post by Маг.нет » Sat Sep 11, 2010 19:15

Михаил_ wrote:although I do not recommend at the time to interfere with BJ and SP, I believe it is possible for SP to put sway worn BJ though 1.0 version (free) and it should point frequency flow, because BJ has a resonance with the host, and he used to drive all of the desired frequency based on the current capabilities of the cocoon to accept them.
That is, the filter "cut off excess"? Don't need this point? And expanding the potential of SP advanced range of BJ?


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Post by Воффка » Sun Sep 12, 2010 13:52

Who are some of sensetive users, try to "see" what would be the feelings on which nick wrote a member of this mysterious family. As you try to tell :)

PS I understand that most likely nick "untethered" from his vehicle, but check all the same interesting :). Even in nature as it "untethered". You can compare what would be the feelings from nick untethered "tube" module (BZ) and the "untethered" his nickname, if he do not forgot to "unlink" it (a naive assumption...) :)

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Post by Раймис » Mon Sep 13, 2010 16:59

Михаил_ wrote: Why I remembered it then?
But for this reason: http://www.building-future.org/project_description/
He's trying to do a project with a literary impact on the future, i.e. to form the desired branch of reality. And along the way to make some extra money in the process. In principle, all well and good, however I do not support his worldview and ACC. future :)
But here it is simply described principles. And performs tasks such he is not alone.
Read the description of this project. Very interesting. How real is the implementation of it? Probably already have people working on it...

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Post by Михаил_ » Tue Sep 14, 2010 0:22

On the one hand I hope that it will not work (and is how sluggish everything goes). Why? I don't like his version of the future. It's not about me. Can justify, but it is a long time, and I'm in this thread ran. This week a lot of cases.
On the other hand glad he does it. This is another factor in the stabilization, now does not hurt. And he knows how to do correctly. So with a smaller volume can achieve greater efficiency. As I understand it, the last few years he used his same school (according to him about 30 000chel) as readers of his hood. tales to prescribe himself.

As I wrote above, there are other actively focusing on the whole line. In my opinion until he beat literary project "ethnogenesis". In the view of almost children's texts but not children's ambitions and scope. Very interesting bookmarks and combination. Proper promotion of the project + posted texts and audio books freely available by the publisher. A rare case.
The author of the idea is also quite unusual person and the environment he has long been noticeable to me (previously encountered).

There are others.
My version of what is happening here and now in the art outlined in the "Flower of Kamlanie" from Gromyko. Of course not further shaped ACC. on the main points, but very accurate.
I would say right after coarse and fine.
I think from there it will be clear why I don't like the version from the BM-and :)

As for the reality of BM-OMSKA projects do a lot of things he managed to do, but often not at the level that was popping caps at the creation stage of a project. it is necessary to do discounts. The fact that the influence and will undoubtedly be appreciable even if the project will be interested only in his own school. That's a lot, because it is the filter level.

But has not yet appeared massive editions of his version, ethnogenesis has a greater impact. As a complex puzzle by collecting the threads from the past, present and future. Another scheme impact.<

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Post by Смелый » Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:44

Шалтай Балтай wrote:these things punch energy channels that automatically expands perception.
Here fine used to have coached intuition that would not be addicted to that "not necessary".
That's why I always say - do practices.
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In combination with tracks chakra (better in the beginning to work in the range Muladhara - Anahata), the pump goes crazy. The body is heated to the level of the heated stoves. I don't understand, in this state, as can be sticky? Life is beautiful, you just need to with increased energy to pay more attention to yourself. Keep track of your feelings, listen to yourself. To turn into a kind of shell. Down with books! They lead away from self-knowledge. To follow their feelings and develop their most important quality: "Feel yourself here and now." After a while the feeling - more energy. Well, do yourself or another device, or to comrade Humpty. What us aliens. Where thought - there energy. It is better for me. Aliens or other world model, by themselves. There is a unique chance to develop themselves. So why waste it on nonsense. The energy should be spent on yourself. And then, as if with an increase in personal of energy all the way, not to turn into "Nekrasovskaya dragonfly". Suddenly, a couple of weeks (or another time), perfect time to pass a test. Let's talk about norbekova, Bronnikova, Sviyash, etc. will Not receive credit. This is the way norbekova, or someone out there. And what you personally represent. Oh, great achievements in the study of Sviyash. Deuce, my dear wannabe!
Good luck to everyone!
PS it Is believed that the forces leading each of us, fail us at the right time to a certain point of development, skipping through that, acquire a different quality. One has only to trample on the spot, or just evade to the side, and you can fly past the rendezvous point. Will there be a second chance - is unknown. Even if it is, then it is unlikely very soon.

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