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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 15:59
by Маг.нет
Доплер wrote:serious Device, to compete with him will be problematic. He did what a resolution is not enough, 2 µv to discharge. When a standard EEG 50 mV is obtained a signal of 5 bits. And design is good.
Studying the demand, please specify the different proposals in this aspect: opportunities - the approximate retail price. Thank you!
Sincerely, MAG.no
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 16:13
by Экко
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 0:25
by Доплер
Маг.нет wrote:
Studying the demand, please specify the different proposals in this aspect: opportunities - the approximate retail price. Thank you!
Sincerely, MAG.no
Will try, but I think this is only the beginning of the next year it comes.
This scheme is almost normal, but clearly Amateur. The meals are lousy (particularly the "virtual" earth). Protective diodes at the input are not suitable - too large leakage current. For ECG scheme will work less, EEG is unlikely to succeed.
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:57
by Тапка
Doppler and the scheme will share a WORKING biocriteria???? or the secret???
We assume that all of the people - happiness and the gift and let will leave nobody offended! Vot.....
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:23
by Экко
Doppler and the scheme will share a WORKING biocriteria???? or the secret???
A better EEG. You said the food is lousy in the scheme.. But what is the reason? RF interference? In General, many devices work even without any filters in series, or here EEG requires a special approach?
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:13
by Сергей Владимирович.
Hello!
If you make such a device, it is better cheap analogue device "TACOS". ACCORDING to him, there remains only the device itself. Let's chip in together and make the development of this device.
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:48
by Маг.нет
Доплер wrote:'ll Try, but I think this is only the beginning of the next year it comes.
Never in a hurry... Wait for the offers for reviews. You can start with a small theory answering the question: "For which purposes it may be useful to the Buyer-User" how to extract the efficiency of the functionality of the device?
Sincerely, MAG.no
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:03
by Доплер
Сергей Владимирович. wrote:Hello!
If you make such a device, it is better cheap analogue device "TACOS". ACCORDING to him, there remains only the device itself. Let's chip in together and make the development of this device.
As I understand it, TETOS not just measures of the EEG, and current hits to the head (stimulates), and there is something adjusts. While it was not, I think just beeping/flashing.
All wrote:Scheme let
The scheme I lay out is not a pity, still it without the PCB little. In the evening will do.
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:48
by Экко
still it without the PCB little.
what are the problems, if you have a breadboard?
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 21:57
by Тапка
ECCO - configure and once setup )))))
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 22:00
by Тапка
Doppler - thanks in advance !!!
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 22:57
by Доплер
Today rolled up, on the weekend I'll try to publish.
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 17:57
by Тапка
emmmm you do not forget about us dear????)))
Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:11
by АМЕА
Тапка wrote:eh !!! how do you want the System my friends!!!!!! there are no more forces!!! and the Saiga 12K tactics PTS hotstsa.........sad.....((((
Why was this trash-saiga?
This.... nightmare and not a weapon.... I tell You as specialist)
Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:15
by АМЕА
фрагмент wrote:Тапка wrote:a snippet at the moment, neither EEG nor even a normal device reflecting what is happening in the body we have..
The people, and that you are all so sunk in EEG? What kind of fetish.... unhealthy? To understand what is happening in the brain there is much more simple electrophysiological methods, the NEC, for example!
And much more informative, by the way, not so technical and confusing...
Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:18
by Тапка
Of ANAS because it is more affordable Remington 870))) On imported cars no money napalese)))
Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:19
by АМЕА
Доплер wrote:
And about the prices - the price of medical devices have significant share in certification, registration and licensing Roszdrava, for household appliances, the idea it's not necessarily. Ie the price should be more or less adequate.
The question still is that for recording normal EEG it is necessary to observe some requirements for the attachment of electrodes to enclose wet cotton wool, to wear a special hat or a cap how much the users are willing to do it?
Doppler, in our country it is IMPOSSIBLE to certify a household device for registration of biopotentials! Any biopotential amplifier is automatically included in the 94 group and pulls the reg. certificate of the Ministry of health and other shnyaga((( I Say You as a developer.
Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:21
by АМЕА
Тапка wrote:of ANAS because it is more affordable Remington 870))) On imported cars no money napalese)))
Damn, a colleague, but saiga is the very as a used Remington(((( And works badly( You are going where to shoot?
Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:28
by Тапка
Of ANAS - people are bad of course!!!!))) self type)))
Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:30
by АМЕА
And... well, if the defense, the saiga will do) And you can shoot the plate.... but not Saiga)
Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:15
by Экко
of ANAS
so you're the weapons specialist and the developer of the instrument? o_o
Doppler, in our country it is IMPOSSIBLE to certify a household device for registration of biopotentials! Any biopotential amplifier is automatically included in the 94 group and pulls the reg. certificate of the Ministry of health and other shnyaga((( I Say You as a developer.
Why was this trash-saiga? Shocked This.... nightmare and not a weapon.... I tell You as specialist)
Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 18:14
by АМЕА
Your designer needs to be a peace-loving Nerd?
Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:52
by Экко
No, what surprised you the versatile specialist.
Maybe then you, too, for EEG come from?
Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:10
by фрагмент
АМЕА wrote:
To understand what is happening in the brain there is much more simple electrophysiological methods, the NEC, for example!
And much more informative, by the way, not so technical and confusing...
In the brain there? I now doubt it....
Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 17:37
by АМЕА
Экко wrote:no, what surprised you the versatile specialist.
Maybe then you, too, for EEG come from?
Well, everyone has a profession or a hobby) unfortunately, over the EEG do not take - is not economically feasible, I think that a Colleague Dopler confirm. To do EEG for 200-300 bucks need an order of 1000 PCs, and such a demand is lacking, unfortunately( much cheaper just to buy a gourmet and enjoy. After all, the price there is quite adequate.
