Kinesthetic sensations in psychopractice. Autogenic the gap.

[рыжая]

The Nightingale, when in your answer, You refer to some of the teachings or books You've read, does this mean that Your personal experienceYou have received coincides with the postulates of the mentioned teachings and resonates with the ideas of Your recommended books? That is how, all of what You say, pass through Your personal practical experience
By the way, with the fall in youth You experimented? The results are?

Nightingale wrote -
Mistral
I actually doubt its existence. And to Your question the book answers, if not the first, so it has continued. I mentioned it because it is a sensible idea.

Is not it easier to Express these sensible ideas in your own words?

[Мистраль]

Indeed,Nightingale! Threw lure;give an explanation!I,for one,I've tried to download this book could not.Or the link is broken or there is no connection.

[Ашатан]

The book about the sorcerer Stamenova is here. On The Cube.ru.

[Соловей]

You refer to some of the teachings or books You've read, does this mean that Your personal experience coincides with the postulates of the mentioned teachings and resonates with the ideas of Your recommended books

Yes.

That is how, all of what You say, pass through Your personal practical experience

Just enough that I took them as a model for psychopractice. Moreover, the model is not the truth. While this model may work fine for some and be completely incompatible with others. That's why I write here are only those practices that are most simple to describe and therefore can work for everyone. Therefore, only in relatively deep explanations I can afford the instructions on those or other currents. They're practiced by a large number of people, that is, they have a vast experience, so they should be something significant. Even if a different course of goes against all what You believe, it is possible to find something useful.
You, Red, have a healthy desire to question all that is not consistent in Your opinion. Why healthy - it adds a certain mental stability. This is a great thing, we can work with it. Even without a job, just coupled with faith in herself she was already enabled many people to succeed. If You can turn this desire to yourself, with tact(!) to understand their motives and to accept yourself(if and cost to understand and accept someone, then definitely yourself first), You will be able to reach the distant heights(Sorry, again not saying quite specifically, this is the situation, when referring to a small pebble gives rise to an avalanche).

Not easy to Express these sensible ideas in your own words?

But why reinvent the wheel? Why multiply interpretations? Already have the book, anyone can read it and make of it whatever you wish. While some books give made alien to the common mind a picture of the world. Sometimes it is useful to look at this from the point of view of their experience and to find errors in it, the Absolutes, the ideas which we would never have hesitated. It is useful to have several points of view, that would not become attached to one and not to step on a rake in an endless loop.

Threw the lure;give an explanation!

In principle, explanations are not needed, I already gave the minimal and sufficient information, in context. The only thing you can add is the parallel between words and salicilatami. They, however, belong to different categories of salicetti included in the person, words in Your vocabulary, but there are similarities. Without updating salicetti, one or the other characteristic You have manifested so pronounced as it is widespread at Your saliceta. The same with words. It seems Your perception should be described in Your dictionary, but in practice those elements of perception for which there is no verbal descriptions are omitted. Therefore, your perception is definitely Your dictionary. Here if You look back at the vocabulary of an ordinary citizen You will see that the words describing illness with old age a lot more than youth and health. That is, in their perception of the world is dominated by a picture of decay. Go ahead. Your reality is completely determined by Your perception(+ judgment entrusted to You individuals, but they have a picture of the world is usually not more optimistic than You) so Your brain trigger those processes in the body, which are consistent with Your reality. Therefore, the set of negative words describes the speed of decay of Your body. And so with everything else.

I,for one,I've tried to download this book could not.Or the link is broken or there is no connection.

The developer of this site, to improve rankings in the search engines, all your projects will link against each-other. On his another project, in Cuba, there is this book<

[Маг.нет]

An anecdote, for fun:

one depot worked two drivers. Moreover, they had one common quality: they both loved to drink! But for some reason the one that was younger, when drunk, be sure to get in an accident. And the second - though henna. Went no worse than a sober drunk.
Well, a young curious: how so? Here he approaches the senior and requests:
Teach me as you ride so well, though drunk?
- Happy to teach you! To begin, let's have a drink! That much is now in the sky moons?
One!
- Enough! Still need to drink. And now how many moons in the sky?
Two.
- Enough! Come on! How many are there now? Three? What you need! Get in the car, go!
They are driving, senior driving, car speed dials.
- Look ahead three pillars. In the middle of real. Go round! From then on, I see three dogs. In the middle of real. Go round! Now three guards. In the middle of a real - go round! So. Won three wells. In the middle of real. Go round!
- I understand, now give me to drive!
Changed they go on. Young driving such a joy, continues to comment:
- Here are three old ladies. In the middle of a real - go round! Class! Here are three of the bridge. In the middle of a real - go round!
...

Yes... And why? Flexibility in model was not. Instead of the model have natural pattern. But since the map is not the territory, and not even all of her "imprint", then sometimes it's unknown what can cause even the most flexible model without sufficient conditions.

Model is a good simulator, not a reference to the ultimate truth.



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Sincerely, MAG.no
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[Соловей]

Model is a good simulator, not a reference to the ultimate truth.

Yes and no. Any model is not only good exercise, it's also a great weapon in certain situations and is a tool for creating new models suitable for other situations. And at the same time, the model narrows Your point of view, it is necessary to be able not to be greedy and give up your "wealth" at the right time.

Something topic again is bent, I hope it's not because of my answers - I am not an absolute authority, I can be challenged(and you should, better me than some fanatic sects).

[Маг.нет]

Totally agree with You, the Model is primarily a TOOL that can be used in different ways, want as a trainer, I want as a tool for internal positive change, and you want to make any (even distant by similarity) circumstances and this list does not exhaust the full potential of the usefulness of Models.
The fact that there is a narrowing of perspective, so it's not a consequence, and the reason - narrow point of view, the superposition Model, the result obtained from such "restrictions" (framework Model) and benefit from the mainstreaming perspective in the intended direction. Although life is much... much wider. Except "work" and "live" time:).
To challenge difficult, we do not consider the theoretical part and experience and it is not only different for everyone (a point for dispute), but also the consequences of the same can be perceived by different people in different ways.
The issue is not bent:) just slowly and meticulously solve the accumulated internal problems and contradictions.

The questions are relevant!


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Sincerely, MAG.no
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[Юрий555]

to MAG.no Stop to pollute the topic with abundance of meaningless lyrics (got somewhere in the network) - create your. And then it becomes impossible to read the entire "mob".

[Маг.нет]

:):)Spasibozhko:):):)

I propose to continue...



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Sincerely, MAG.no
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[Соловей]

ЮРА5
Let him, as he supports at the top, and when he's ready to generalize, he will always have time to remove unnecessary in his opinion posts.

[Маг.нет]

Nightingale thank you for your understanding!

I welcome criticism, but only constructive, which gives me a lesson and fills a valuable experience.

Otherwise I see no reason. Well at least so, one of my friends has one favorite pattern:
"don't tell me not to do and then I won't send you where You should go..." .
But in General, heeded the recommendation of a respected ЮРА5 and suspend the course of this process, for its convenience.

As to the generalizations above, and what to generalize? I presented the working Models of open type, so the compilation who need it, will hold your own - it will be more productive and useful.

Why here? Saw the presence of a specialist willing to correct some possible misconceptions and to identify contradictions.

Again thank ЮРА5 for they adopted the responsibility to stop this process.



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Sincerely, MAG.no
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[Евгений Кош]

Nightingale

to understand their motives and to accept yourself(if and cost to understand and accept someone, then definitely yourself first), You will be able to reach the distant heights(Sorry, again not saying quite specifically, this is the situation, when referring to a small pebble gives rise to an avalanche).

Sometimes, I would say - often.
Motives are imposed upon other people. ( it is also called "clichés imposed behaviour").
This logic is very difficult to make out some "debris" motives.

[Соловей]

Motives are imposed upon other people. ( it is also called "clichés imposed behaviour").
This logic is very difficult to make out some "debris" motives.

Probably I incorrectly expressed, to fully track the motifs should probably do a full revision of the whole of life. But why? For enlightenment, it's understandable... But purely in the interests of any practical motivation(within reason, of course - the killers motivation galore... but I would not want to have such.) very useful - it can be used as fuel for perfection and success. Maybe it's not too well according to some sects, but fully consistent with the rule of judo - pull the Striker, striker, push - if not all leftist programs to get rid of, then why not make use of his advantage.

[Евгений Кош]

Motives are imposed upon other people. ( it is also called "clichés imposed behaviour").
This logic is very difficult to make out some "debris" motives.

Probably I incorrectly expressed, to fully track the motifs should probably do a full revision of the whole of life. But why? For enlightenment, it's understandable... But purely in the interests of any practical motivation(within reason, of course - the killers motivation galore... but I would not want to have such.) very useful - it can be used as fuel for perfection and success. Maybe it's not too well according to some sects, but fully consistent with the rule of judo - pull the Striker, striker, push - if not all leftist programs to get rid of, then why not make use of his advantage.

It would be interesting to hear from You - how to use for yourself a favor imposed on programs like "submission to a particular person or discipline specific interests"( that is, not Your interests). Usually it is on the conscious level is not perceived.

[Соловей]

It would be interesting to hear from You - how to use for yourself a favor imposed on programs like "submission to a particular person or discipline specific interests"( that is, not Your interests). Usually it is on the conscious level is not perceived.

I do not understand the approach, what it means on a conscious level are not perceived - with this approach it is possible what you want the program to look for, right down to the murder of the President... - until paranoia is not far away. But if the motive is understood - so there is a sea of possibilities. Every program has its limitations - they can play and direct.

[Евгений Кош]

It would be interesting to hear from You - how to use for yourself a favor imposed on programs like "submission to a particular person or discipline specific interests"( that is, not Your interests). Usually it is on the conscious level is not perceived.

I do not understand the approach, what it means on a conscious level are not perceived - with this approach it is possible what you want the program to look for, right down to the murder of the President... - until paranoia is not far away. But if the motive is understood - so there is a sea of possibilities. Every program has its limitations - they can play and direct.

The approach is quite simple. First, you need to understand the actual ( not the desired state of Affairs).
That is - to understand that there are motives which are at the moment conscious and which is unconscious. Taking this, it is necessary to develop approaches to getting on a conscious level of motives, which are at the moment unconscious.

If You admit that all Your motives at the moment conscious, then I think that you should not start to do anything, because it will remain in a field of their own imagination.


p.s. but usually when motive becomes conscious, it is usually instantly re-evaluated ( this is the feature of the mind).and if he imposed on others, often dropping out, or have to create their own motivation. And this is not what it was to the awareness on this and to talk about the use of THOSE motives is difficult to speak, because they have changed their minds, altered and changed.

p.s.s. from this and the review of all lines of life , are desirable, if notice for themselves any disorder in life. Otherwise, you will never get to the motive which makes You sick, when there is a crucial moment to be annoyed when for the life of the person who can tell you the answers to your questions. Or "friendly" ( in quotes) the reason you get the flu in 1-2 weeks when I learned that "the city began an epidemic of influenza".
And I think that's how You'll use these left-wing programs to their advantage? if You are not aware of. But if you realize, both of them will take what you will use to their advantage? ( if You have already laid a painful reaction to a particular combination of circumstances, as the motive to something else).<

[Соловей]

but usually when motive becomes conscious, it is usually instantly re-evaluated ( this is the feature of the mind).and if he imposed on others, often dropping out, or have to create their own motivation.

We have a different understanding of the motives, my motive, something that has become a habit and part of the character, even after realizing this motive, he does not disappear - he would have gone I need to change myself. I work mostly with the lower motives of fear, pride, greed, envy. - If they disappear it is necessary to create another motivation(and who knows how "good" motivation to behave in a critical moment, with the "lower" everything is clear - it is predictable), which is not as easy as it seems, so I'm happy to use them.

My picture of the world involves a constant struggle with anything - if you remove one problem - there will be others - so why not squeeze all the available resources-improvement of existing, before moving to new?

If You will admit that all of Your motives at the moment conscious, then I think that you should not start to do anything, because it will remain in a field of their own imagination.

Just this never happens, there really is an illusion everything is fine(a good indicator that not everything is in order ) but it passes once You start to act. Hence the search for hidden motivations is not necessary - practice will highlight everything you need to work at the moment. But this is not universal for all people, as it is tied to my interpretation of the world, You may be different.

Otherwise never get to that motive which makes You sick, when there is a crucial moment

Here it is difficult to fight, which I do not - all people have developed conformity, if everybody's doing it, then I will too, then either You are like everyone else(with the attendant pros and cons - all you have to pay...), or You get sick. But you can use too. It's hard for me to understand how to get sick at a critical moment it is important to You and You don't get sick or it just seems that important to You. Well, at the expense of disease - a great opportunity to clean the body - dependence of antibody production in the non-linear dependence on temperature of the body, it is only necessary to stock up on vitamin C or other antioxidants and enjoy the rejuvenation of the body. Yes, it's evil reframing in NLP... But if it fits into Your picture of the world, why not. Moreover, as I mentioned, the problems will always better until the cold or flu than something more fraught with ill consequences.

to be annoyed when for the life of the person who can tell you the answers to your questions.

Who told You that You need a man. Though irritation is the simplest program for the protection of Your world view - You are just afraid of change, absolutely healthy reaction - but if it were on the back - here you should think. Will not necessarily change immediately revolutionary can evolve - slower, but safer. Remember "I Have no teacher, the way my teacher"? - so if you want an answer just ask it to yourself - think about it - and the answer will come, and that's what is needed for You. Unfortunately that would explain how this happens we need to use Sufism, but without explanation works.

and I think That's how You'll use these left-wing programs to their advantage? if You are not aware of.

Just ask yourself that as soon as the program starts to harm You, You will notice immediately. Then while the program works for You(otherwise can not be - fully destructive program to take root in the psyche not can) no need to fix it.

PS: it May give the impression that all the motives and attitudes to work - it is not. For example, I can not and do not want to work with laziness, self-pity and uncertainty. How is universal for all I know.

PSS. About absolutely negative attitudes - I'm not quite right that such cannot be. ... But can they positive feature may lie with everything not in his personal plane, and for example in social... That is relative to a particular person they can be totally negative or destructive, but it does not prevent to alter their picture of the world so that they did not exist, then the last paragraph before the post scripts will be "true". Sorry for that... but the absolute truth, there is what You choose to believe.<